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Title: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 08, 2007, 02:02:55 pm
As I'm searching the boards, getting ready to to drill holes, I find that there's really no central location for this sort of information.  If you have reached this thread through a search, and the hole cutting information is not available in the chart below, when you DO find the information, please reply to the thread and include the dimensions for others.  If everyone plays along, this thread will be a resource for those wondering how to cut a hole for any control panel component.


This thread has been moved to the wiki (http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Control_panel_hole_sizes).  Please add/modify entries there.  However, feel free to reply to this thread with additions as well.


Component    Hole Size Required    Recommended Tool    Additional Notes
   
   
   
Push Button Holes
Happs Standard Pushbutton    1 1/8"    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw   
GGG Electric Ice Pushbutton    1 1/8"    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw   
Happs Mini Pushbutton    1/2"    Drill Bit    fits styles A, B, and C
Leaf Buttons    1 5/32    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw    1 5/32 is perfect but 1 3/16 will work
Atari Volcano Pushbutton    29/64"    standard drill bit   
Standard Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons    30mm           
Small Sanwa buttons    24mm           
Trackball Center Holes
Betson 2.25" Trackball (lip exposed)    2 1/4"    Hole Saw    hole needed for lexan overlay
Betson 2.25" Trackball (ball exposed only)    1 15/16""    Hole Saw    hole needed for lexan overlay
3" Happs Trackball Standard (expose lip)    3"    Hole Saw    Hole needed for lexan overlay
3" Happs Trackball Highball (expose lip)    3 1/4"    Hole Saw    hole needed for lexan overlay
3" Happs Trackball Standard (expose only ball)    2 7/8"    Hole Saw    hole needed for lexan overlay
3" Betson Imperial Trackball (expose lip)    2 7/8"    Hole Saw    hole needed for lexan overlay
Joysticks
UltraStick360 Joystick    1 1/8"    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw    Hole needed for stick to poke up through bottom mount
Suzo (STC) 500 Joystick    1 3/4" & 1 1/8" holes    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw    Holes needed for stick to poke up through bottom mount.  Installation Details (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=3733.msg93083#msg93083)
Spinners
SlickStick Tornado Spinner    3/8"    Drill Bit    only shaft pokes out
GGG TurboTwist 2 Spinner    1 1/8"    Fostner Bit, Hole Saw    fits in a standard button hole

-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 11, 2007, 10:36:39 am
Can someone with trackball knowledge help fill this out with me?  I find this topic in particular to be quite confusing, as there are a billion ways to mount this stuff.  I'm particularly interested in describing the hole sizes using various trackballs, different STYLE balls, and differences using a plate vs. flush mounting in wood or plexi.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: miles2912 on September 11, 2007, 06:10:19 pm
For the trackballs you will need a router (if you want the plate mounted flush) and a jigsaw to cut out hole.  The hole is usually a funky shape.  Not a hole saw.   See pic

(http://www.donsnet.net/cab/Cut%20CP.JPG)
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 12, 2007, 03:10:37 am
Quote from: miles2912 on September 11, 2007, 06:10:19 pm
For the trackballs you will need a router (if you want the plate mounted flush) and a jigsaw to cut out hole.  The hole is usually a funky shape.  Not a hole saw.

I suppose I was thinking that you'd put Plexi over the plate, and need to cut a hole in the plexi to cover it.

I suppose this could be another entry for this type of mounting.. how would you reword the above info?  Also, got any measurement specifics to go along with that?

I will be the first to admit, this thread chart is gonna be a team effort.  I'm not hole cutting master ;)

-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: scotthh on September 12, 2007, 02:02:11 pm
Happ 3" trackball holes:

If you plan on exposing the lip, it's 2.99" for a high-lip (http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/56010011hl_exploded.htm) or regular (http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/560100e.htm) trackball. It's 3.24" for a high ball (http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/560110e.htm). See the exploded diagrams I linked to.
If you plan on only exposing the ball, it depends on the thickness of the material between the trackball and the top of the CP.
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 14, 2007, 08:49:53 am
Updates:

- Added dimensions for leaf button according to Whammoed (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=71305.msg731991#msg731991)
- Changed trackball entries for clarification

Comments and additions welcome
-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 15, 2007, 08:52:07 am
Updated Happs miniature pushbutton  as verified by psychotec (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=68890.msg732342#msg732342)
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on September 15, 2007, 02:23:09 pm
Updated Betson 2.25" trackball as measured off mine.

-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: WCBoudreaux on October 08, 2007, 03:45:27 pm
Hey, great idea!

Atari Cone Switches are going to be 29/64"... That's  what size drill bit fits tightly in my Original Space Ace control panel holes... Hope that helps...
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: Kajoq on October 08, 2007, 08:32:08 pm
For completion sake - Standard sanwa/seimitsu buttons have a 30mm hole and the small sanwas are 24mm
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on October 11, 2007, 01:59:53 pm
Updated Chart:
- Sanwa standard pushbutton sizes
- Sanwa small pushbutton sizes
- Atari Volcano pushbutton sizes

Thanks all for additional input, feel free to add more info
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: Kangum on October 12, 2007, 03:39:24 am
tag for later
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: stace on November 08, 2007, 10:11:09 am
Guys,

What size hole do I need for a Happ Competition (Assuming I mount it under the cp) ? 1 1/8 ?

Thanks
Stace  :)
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on November 08, 2007, 12:51:30 pm
I did some searching, and didn't see anything specifically going against the 1 1/8" hole rule for bottom mounting a Happs Super.  Maybe someone who's mounted one this way could confirm however.

btw - I have updated the above chart to include Suzo 500's during my search efforts to help you out.

*Edit*

Check this thread (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=70750.0) and  this thread (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69548.msg710722#msg710722) out.  I think it sounds like 1 1/8" is what you're after, assuming you're not putting lexan over top of the CP.  Can someone again, confirm?

-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: stace on November 08, 2007, 01:36:06 pm
Thanks,

No plexi over the top.  CP will be covered in a layout from mame marquees and my understanding is they're 'man' enough to not need covering ?!?
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: gatordad on November 08, 2007, 03:20:11 pm
Great Idea  :cheers:
Should be stickyfied for reference.
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on November 08, 2007, 08:17:07 pm
If anyone has info on drilling the hole for the magstik, it'd be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: TeamTEOR on November 13, 2007, 04:49:59 am
Great info here guys. Thanks!
Tom
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on November 21, 2007, 05:34:47 pm
Thanks guys!  I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night.  Worked like a charm!  I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.

I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8".  I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus.  It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: jpenguin on December 30, 2007, 03:13:48 pm
Great lisst, I'l post it on my website.  I have one more tp add:


Happ Sub-Miniature Pushbuttons                  5/16''
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: jpenguin on December 30, 2007, 03:22:13 pm
Quote from: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on November 21, 2007, 05:34:47 pm
Thanks guys!  I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night.  Worked like a charm!  I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.

I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8".  I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus.  It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..


3/4''!  Man,, I hope you routed soome of that wood out.

i DID AN UNDER PANEL MOUNTING FOR MY mAGsTIK+, BUT THE WOOD IS ONLY 1/4''

SpRRy fOr The ToGgLe CaSE

I HATE CAPS-L0OCK
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: FhM on January 28, 2008, 05:52:43 pm
I wikified the page here:

http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Control_panel_hole_sizes
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: fixedpigs on January 28, 2008, 06:33:46 pm
nicely done... :applaud:
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: csa3d on January 29, 2008, 09:17:20 am
awesome!  I was hoping it would end up there.  That way, anyone can edit it and I don't have to watch over it so closely.  Thanks again!
-csa
Title: Re: Control Panel Hole Sizes
Post by: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on March 04, 2008, 04:50:26 pm
Quote from: jpenguin on December 30, 2007, 03:22:13 pm
Quote from: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on November 21, 2007, 05:34:47 pm
Thanks guys!  I used the info I found in this thread to drill my control panel last night.  Worked like a charm!  I loaded up a 1 1/8" spade bit and it drilled through effortlessly.

I also made the hole for my joystick 1 1/8".  I sort of just went with my gut on what size to drill, given the very short throw of the magstik plus.  It's being undermounted on 3/4" plywood..


3/4''!  Man,, I hope you routed soome of that wood out.

i DID AN UNDER PANEL MOUNTING FOR MY mAGsTIK+, BUT THE WOOD IS ONLY 1/4''

SpRRy fOr The ToGgLe CaSE

I HATE CAPS-L0OCK

Nope.  it's really the perfect height, given that it's dedicated to playing vertical games on one end of a cocktail machine.