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Title: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 15, 2006, 02:56:28 am
I have upgraded the software on the forum to a new release. This brings plenty of optimizations and another theme in the set. We will eventually only offer a single theme once we have a new design implemented.

If you notice any problems or glitches with the upgrade, please post here
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Kremmit on January 15, 2006, 03:27:25 am
I noticed I couldn't get on until now!

Also, as I'm posting this, I see a blue hyperlink that says "Embarrased" mixed in with the line of DK smilies.  When I click it, I get this:
 :-[

I see the colon dash rightbracket smiley code as I'm typing my quote, but I just get a the word "Embarrassed" when I view my post.  Again, that's with the DK smiley set.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 15, 2006, 03:39:24 am
I noticed that I had to log in :) And then log in again.     I thought somebody had hacked my password or something.  But after logging in I thought I should check here and, guess what, this thread is here.

And I've noticed that clicking on images, that are attached to posts, makes them bigger and then smaller.  Cool


I also notice what Kremmit was describing although I didn't understand it when he was describing it.  When  you're composing a reply (and you are using the DK smilie set) the row of potential 'smilies' that runs above the message-composition window is okay except for the "Embarrassed" smilie.  It's not there and is, instead, replaced with the word "Embarrassed" (which is hyperlinked, as Kremmit noted)
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: JoyMonkey on January 15, 2006, 09:47:03 am
I don't see the DK embarassed at all now (or am I blind?).
Just incase the DK embarassed has gotten deleted, here's the original:
http://www.joymonkey.com/misc/dkong/embarassed.gif
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 15, 2006, 11:05:39 am
I've disabled it as it wasn't contained in all of the themes. We should be OK now.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Lilwolf on January 15, 2006, 12:42:52 pm
I had to rack my brain for my password.  I think I've typed it in twice in the last 8 years :)
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 15, 2006, 11:47:30 pm
don't know if it was just my connection or the upgrade but I couldn't read the threads in Board Discussion from home yesterday it would quit loading right after the google ads....

Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 16, 2006, 12:03:30 am
don't know if it was just my connection or the upgrade but I couldn't read the threads in Board Discussion from home yesterday it would quit loading right after the google ads....

Are you still experiencing this?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 16, 2006, 12:26:02 am
don't know if it was just my connection or the upgrade but I couldn't read the threads in Board Discussion from home yesterday it would quit loading right after the google ads....

Are you still experiencing this?

I'm not experiencing this at work... I'll try again at home in the morning.....
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: danny_galaga on January 16, 2006, 08:07:41 am

i dont know if this is related, but as of today i cannot sign in using firefox. but here i am on internet explorer. problem is, i donwloaded firefox only a week ago SOLELY because i was having probs with IE when viewing these forums! when i try to log in on firefox, it says :

An Error Has Occurred!
You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.

arent they the same cookies that are letting me log on with IE?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: MameMaster! on January 16, 2006, 09:52:13 am
...sniff...it took me 5 tries to log in. For a minute there I saw my post count starting from scratch and the MameMaster!tm possibly being no more....I was so scared.....someone hold me.  :'(
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 16, 2006, 10:55:33 am
UPDATE for sirwoogie :

I'm having no problems now viewing threads...


must have been my connection or random glitch that worked itself out.........
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 16, 2006, 11:30:04 am
An Error Has Occurred!
You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.

arent they the same cookies that are letting me log on with IE?

The cookie name has updated, thus forcing a renew of that cookie. Be sure that you are letting firefox renew the cookie
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 16, 2006, 01:01:59 pm
An Error Has Occurred!
You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.

arent they the same cookies that are letting me log on with IE?

The cookie name has updated, thus forcing a renew of that cookie. Be sure that you are letting firefox renew the cookie

I was having this same problem.  Not immediately after the upgrade and I had to log in twice, but a few hours later I came back, was asked to log in again and then got the cookie error.     I had to go into FireFox's options and manually delete the arcadecontrols.com cookie and then it worked.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Hoopz on January 16, 2006, 01:04:35 pm
An Error Has Occurred!
You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.

arent they the same cookies that are letting me log on with IE?

The cookie name has updated, thus forcing a renew of that cookie. Be sure that you are letting firefox renew the cookie

I was having this same problem.  Not immediately after the upgrade and I had to log in twice, but a few hours later I came back, was asked to log in again and then got the cookie error.     I had to go into FireFox's options and manually delete the arcadecontrols.com cookie and then it worked.

Ditto.  Is this a Firefox issue or would IE have the same thing happen?  Not sure I have IE on here anymore or else I would try it.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: danny_galaga on January 17, 2006, 02:36:43 am
An Error Has Occurred!
You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.

arent they the same cookies that are letting me log on with IE?

The cookie name has updated, thus forcing a renew of that cookie. Be sure that you are letting firefox renew the cookie

I was having this same problem.  Not immediately after the upgrade and I had to log in twice, but a few hours later I came back, was asked to log in again and then got the cookie error.     I had to go into FireFox's options and manually delete the arcadecontrols.com cookie and then it worked.

BINGO!!! thanks for the heads up.

Hoopz, if you read my post above yuo would see that i said i was signed in using IE...
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 17, 2006, 01:17:07 pm
Any chance of resetting the "search" button to the "Advanced Search" page again?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 17, 2006, 02:03:56 pm
The forums now list my own posts as "new", whereas the old forums did not.

IOW, when I post in a thread and return to the forum, the thread I just posted in now indicates that it has a new post... you know, the one I just posted.

Any way to revert to the way it used to work?

EDIT: Okay, it didn't seem to happen here with this thread and my last post here, but it's been happening in The Main forum.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 17, 2006, 03:01:52 pm
I'm finding that it now takes longer to load everything after the google ads if your on dial-up....
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 17, 2006, 04:19:44 pm
Yes, I believe we're having a problem with the gzip compression that is disabling it. I will work to see if I can get that going again. I feel your pain as I'm on a slow link at home too. I haven't really noticed a slowdown.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 19, 2006, 12:17:08 am
Any chance of resetting the "search" button to the "Advanced Search" page again?

No?


Okay, so is the ability to delete your own post going to come back?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 19, 2006, 10:19:58 am
Any chance of resetting the "search" button to the "Advanced Search" page again?

Yeah, I fixed that. It was my fault that it was set to simple. So, the search button in all themes will show the advanced search page by default.

Okay, so is the ability to delete your own post going to come back?

No.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: markrvp on January 19, 2006, 02:31:20 pm
Everytime I click a button it is showing me logged off.  I had to open this in a new window, login on another window, and then post this here.  Any idea why I keep getting kicked off?  I'm using IE6.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on January 19, 2006, 03:33:47 pm
Have you tried deleting any byoac related cookies and then logging back in? I've seen that happen with mucked up cookies.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: markrvp on January 19, 2006, 04:58:03 pm
I deleted all my cookies, cleared my cache, and deleted internet files twice.  Just now when I clicked reply, it asked me to login even though it showed my name up at the top next to messages.  I can click refresh 2 or 3 times and it will show me logged in again.  If no one else is having this problem, then I'm sure the problem is on my end, but I don't know how to fix it.

Is there a way to manually download a good cookie?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: markrvp on January 19, 2006, 06:23:16 pm
Okay, I've deleted my cookies again and opened up my:

c:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Cookies   

folder and gone to three websites where I have accounts.  On the first two, after I logged in, a .txt file was created in the Cookies folder with a name similar to the website.  When I logged on here at BYOAC, no .txt file was created in the cookies folder.  Does that mean that my browser is not downloading the cookie?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on January 19, 2006, 08:46:34 pm
Ummm... I may have to defer to Woogie or another on this one.  What about personal firewalls, anything else blocking cookies?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: markrvp on January 19, 2006, 09:11:19 pm
It's not blocking cookies from any other site.  It works perfectly at home.  I e-mailed my BYOAC cookie from home to my office computer and I'll try putting that in my cookies folder and see if that fixes it.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 19, 2006, 09:15:37 pm
Have you tried this in a different browser? Normally a cookie not being generated, it's a block by the browser itself. It's hard to diagnose these. I'd like to make sure the site is behaving properly on your computer with a different browser before we continue on IE6
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: GGKoul on January 19, 2006, 10:29:50 pm
I had to rack my brain for my password.  I think I've typed it in twice in the last 8 years :)

Ah.. Thats why I had to re-login..

Like the new features.. especially the inline edit post option.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Kremmit on January 19, 2006, 11:03:33 pm
"Hardware Review" is still hiding in my blind spot- link @ the top, please?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: markrvp on January 20, 2006, 12:26:25 pm
Have you tried this in a different browser? Normally a cookie not being generated, it's a block by the browser itself. It's hard to diagnose these. I'd like to make sure the site is behaving properly on your computer with a different browser before we continue on IE6

Using my home cookie on my office computer did not work on IE6.  The site is running fine in Firefox.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Ken Layton on January 23, 2006, 10:42:00 am
I'm finding that it now takes longer to load everything after the google ads if your on dial-up....

I am having the same problem, but sporadically. I'm on dial-up and right as soon as the google ads finish loading nothing else happens. It's getting frustrating! I'm using IE/Win98.

One of the other problems I'm having is sometimes scrolling down a thread is very ssllooww and jerky. That problem is only occurring on the arcadecontrols.com forums and not on any other forums I normally visit at other websites.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 25, 2006, 02:07:11 pm
I'm finding a few threads that won't even load past the google ads today.........
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 25, 2006, 04:05:50 pm
Sorry, I'm just not seeing this behavior at all. I do believe your seeing it, but I simply haven't had a chance to replicate it.

Ken, which IE are you using? How about you MC (OS/Browser)?
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 25, 2006, 11:49:15 pm
Sorry, I'm just not seeing this behavior at all. I do believe your seeing it, but I simply haven't had a chance to replicate it.

Ken, which IE are you using? How about you MC (OS/Browser)?

windows 2k Pro, IE6....
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 26, 2006, 11:19:08 am
The forums now list my own posts as "new", whereas the old forums did not.

IOW, when I post in a thread and return to the forum, the thread I just posted in now indicates that it has a new post... you know, the one I just posted.

Any way to revert to the way it used to work?

EDIT: Okay, it didn't seem to happen here with this thread and my last post here, but it's been happening in The Main forum.

This is still happening.  I just made a post in the B/S/T forum.  I returned to the forum and noticed that there was a "new" post in the thread.   And then I look... the only "new" post is the one that I just made.  What's up with this?

I have a screenshot to show what I'm talking about, but the forum is not letting me upload it.  It's saying that "The upload folder is full", just as others have reported.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 26, 2006, 11:22:28 am
Here's the pic


Link (http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3237/alwaysnewposts8wp.jpg)

Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 26, 2006, 02:25:05 pm
qb:  Thanks for the investigation, but it still isn't helping me get any farther.

But, I want to focus on your statement regarding the attachements directory. I have not had any reports of uploading attachement problems. Is this being discussed in another thread? We have plenty of space in our attachements directory, so I'm not sure why you experienced that problem.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 26, 2006, 11:46:02 pm
qb:  Thanks for the investigation, but it still isn't helping me get any farther.

But, I want to focus on your statement regarding the attachements directory. I have not had any reports of uploading attachement problems. Is this being discussed in another thread? We have plenty of space in our attachements directory, so I'm not sure why you experienced that problem.

Sorry, I should have been clearer.  I just noticed it mentioned in another thread... but there wasn't a specific thread about it.   Let me see what threads I was reading earlier today... be right back!

EDIT:  I'm back.  Here's one other post here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=48982.msg478131#msg478131) that mentions it.  I thought I saw a 2nd one as well, but I'm not sure where.

I'm going to try attaching a pic to my next post and see if I get the same error. 
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 26, 2006, 11:52:40 pm
No dice.  I got the same error trying to attach a small 16KB gif. 

Just as proof (not that you don't believe me) here's a link to a screencap of the error

LINK (http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2716/fullfoldercap2bl.jpg)
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: teetu on January 27, 2006, 12:02:47 pm
i got the uploads folder full error message too
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 27, 2006, 12:57:02 pm
Yep, I see why. I've fixed the problem. Please try again.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: DrewKaree on January 28, 2006, 12:44:41 am
Woogie, I'm getting the same thing as quarterback regarding the "New" designation being given to a thread, and the new post being the one I myself just made.  When I hit "show new replies to your posts", it doesn't list ALL of the replies I've made to threads either.  I haven't noticed whether or not it was confined to threads in one particular forum or not, but I'll check right after posting this reply.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Tahnok on January 28, 2006, 04:08:27 am
I'm still having problems with fx. I deleted the arcadecontrols.com cookie and it still won't let me log-in (same error message that everyone has been getting). The strange thing is that it will log me out for a while and then I come back and it will be logged in! This is starting to get really old (it has been doing it for quite a while now).
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 29, 2006, 02:02:12 pm
I have two forum.arcadecontrols.com cookies.  Make sure you delete both and also make sure that you're not just deleting some www.arcadecontrols.com or arcadecontrols.com cookies (in Firefox, they're listed alphabetically by the very first letter, either "f", "w" or "a")

I'm still having problems with fx. I deleted the arcadecontrols.com cookie and it still won't let me log-in (same error message that everyone has been getting). The strange thing is that it will log me out for a while and then I come back and it will be logged in! This is starting to get really old (it has been doing it for quite a while now).
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Ken Layton on January 30, 2006, 10:55:37 am
I'm still having problems with long delays after the google ads (particularly on the monitor forum). It seems like with some ads there's some sort of delay programmed in like a pause to make you read the ads. In my case it causes the thread to hang up and not load or to make a reply time out & make me retype the whole thing. It's getting irritating and making it hard to either view a thread or reply to a thread in the monitor forum.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 30, 2006, 03:29:38 pm
Ken, what version of IE are you running?  I just can't seem to replicate this issue. The only other suggestion I can make is have IE ignore google ads outright. It'll depend on which IE you're using for me to help with that as well.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: DrewKaree on January 30, 2006, 04:23:48 pm
Woogie, as of this moment, the thread in Project Announcements "Arcade Bones Marquee critique" is showing as "new" for me and I'm currently the last person posting in it.  I'm using Firefox 1.0.7
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: DrewKaree on January 30, 2006, 04:33:13 pm
Now oddly enough, the post directly above wasn't shown as "new", but immediately after posting my "20 questions" thread in EE, it appeared as "new", and NO ONE other than myself had viewed it!
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 31, 2006, 04:07:08 am
I'm still having problems with long delays after the google ads (particularly on the monitor forum). It seems like with some ads there's some sort of delay programmed in like a pause to make you read the ads. In my case it causes the thread to hang up and not load or to make a reply time out & make me retype the whole thing. It's getting irritating and making it hard to either view a thread or reply to a thread in the monitor forum.

I'm still having the same problem as ken except in every forum.... I've pretty much had to give up BYOAC at home due to this problem (The only place I log in through dial up)...
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on January 31, 2006, 09:03:54 am
Well I saw the same thing today with the "new" problem. I was the last one posted, but it still showed new items in the forum even though there weren't any. I don't think that's related to the client side, isn't that all stored in the database?

Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on January 31, 2006, 09:23:07 am
Ken/Mission -- please change your theme in your profile to the new "minimal" theme -- it's basically a standard SMF template, with the google ads taken out. I don't want to do that permanently (I need the ad revenue :) ) but it will help us determine if it's the google ads that are the problem or something else...
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 31, 2006, 10:48:13 am
Ken/Mission -- please change your theme in your profile to the new "minimal" theme -- it's basically a standard SMF template, with the google ads taken out. I don't want to do that permanently (I need the ad revenue :) ) but it will help us determine if it's the google ads that are the problem or something else...

I'll give it a try when I get home and report back any differences....
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on January 31, 2006, 01:08:09 pm
this looks like it helps alot.....

it's way faster than before... now I just got to get used it
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 31, 2006, 03:55:52 pm
It's wierd how this works.

- I posted in EE.  Returned to the EE forum and my post was there, but not "new" (good)

- I went back into the thread and did a quick edit.  I returned to EE and my post was there but marked as "new" (not good)

- I clicked on the "new" icon and entered the thread.  Read my post and then hit the "Everything Else" link at the top of the page.  This returned me to EE and the thread was STILL marked with a 'new" icon. (not good)

- I hit refresh, just to make sure, and it still had the thread marked as "new" (not good)

- I hit the "new" icon, entering the thread again to read my post again.  I then clicked on teh "Build your own arcade controls forum" link, returning me to the main listing of all the forums.  The EE forum 'diamond indicator" was blue, indicating that there were new posts in that forum.  Of course, the newest post was mine, which I had read at least three times at this point. (not good)

- I clicked on the "Everything Else" forum and entered the forum.  The thread STILL had a "new" icon next to it and, of course, my post was the newest thing in it. (not good)

- I clicked the "new" icon again (third time?) and read my post one more time (yawn).  I then clicked the "Everything Else" link directly above the thread and returned to the EE forum.  FINALLY, the "new" icon had disappeared from that thread (good)

It's clear (from this example and others) that doing a quick-edit of your post can cause the 'new' icon to reappear for your own post.  However, the resulting series of clicks on the "new" icon that did NOT eventually mark the thread as having been read are... odd.

Well I saw the same thing today with the "new" problem. I was the last one posted, but it still showed new items in the forum even though there weren't any. I don't think that's related to the client side, isn't that all stored in the database?


Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: sirwoogie on January 31, 2006, 09:31:42 pm
The forum makers know of the issue with the "new" flag now. I don't know when they'll fix it. My advice for now is to ignore that feature.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: quarterback on January 31, 2006, 09:41:01 pm
The forum makers know of the issue with the "new" flag now. I don't know when they'll fix it. My advice for now is to ignore that feature.

Thanks woog'
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: Ken Layton on February 01, 2006, 01:45:58 am
The minimal mode seems to have cured the problems. Everything loads up fast again and no hang ups when trying to post. It must have been those Google ads.

BTW, I'm using IE 5.5 (an AOL version) and Win98.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on February 01, 2006, 08:34:16 am
I think Google's been mucking about with their adsense program. This weekend I'll poke around and see if I can figure out what's what. Worse case scenario we leave a ad-free theme available. Frankly though, the ads pay for the site so I'm motivated to make them work :)
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on February 01, 2006, 09:25:55 am
I think Google's been mucking about with their adsense program. This weekend I'll poke around and see if I can figure out what's what. Worse case scenario we leave a ad-free theme available. Frankly though, the ads pay for the site so I'm motivated to make them work :)

I'll just use that theme while I'm at home on dial up where the problem occurs.. While at work and school I'll use one of the others....
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on February 01, 2006, 09:41:15 am
I wouldn't flip back and forth on my account :)  Now that I know minimal works I can muck about with the themes and google adsense settings and see if I can make things work properly. I have it set to allow graphic ads for instance, I'll see if text-only ads make a difference.
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: saint on February 03, 2006, 07:32:55 pm
Mission - please try the "Classic Minimal" theme and let me know how it works? It's the same as the main default theme, but with google ads restricted to text only.

this looks like it helps alot.....

it's way faster than before... now I just got to get used it
Title: Re: Forum software upgrade 1-15-2006
Post by: missioncontrol on February 03, 2006, 11:30:38 pm
will do... when I get home in the morning I'll test it and give you feedback on it.....

you may want to have Ken try it too I believe he is using the minimal also.....