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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: lisowskikevin on October 01, 2017, 08:31:44 pm
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Hey guys,
Just wondering if anyone bought the new Snes Mini? As someone who already built a machine with multiple emulators I still went out and got one. Pretty neat for $99 but it's definitely missing some great games. I plan on adding a bunch more to it to make it really worth it.
Anyone else pick one up?
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Hey guys,
Just wondering if anyone bought the new Snes Mini? As someone who already built a machine with multiple emulators I still went out and got one. Pretty neat for $99 but it's definitely missing some great games. I plan on adding a bunch more to it to make it really worth it.
Anyone else pick one up?
No. I got a raspberry pi that can emulate games and actually work with my crt. Has Bluetooth too.
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That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
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That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
OP asked "Anyone buy the Snes Classic?". My answer was no and I explained why. It's pretty huge that a "retro" console won't connect to a "retro" tv. RPI 35 + power supply 10 + power switch 10 + sd card 10 + case 10 + PS3 wireless controller 20 = 95$, but you have a better device than the classic console. I don't get it because I can actually buy an original nes or snes console and a multicart for less money and have a console that will take original carts, work with any tv, just won't do shaders on new lcds.
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RPI 35 + power supply 10 + power switch 10 + sd card 10 + case 10 + PS3 wireless controller 20 = 95$, but you have a better device than the classic console.
"Better" is subjective. (Note: I don't own a SNES Classic, own original hardware, and do emulate elsewhere, but bear with me). The SNES classic is literal plug and play for anyone, regardless of technical aptitude (the RPi is not, even if you handed one pre-configured to someone, and I speak from experience as a 20+ year Linux sysadmin veteran who has built these for friends, and seen them still bamboozled).
Additionally, Nintendo's emulation quality is excellent - only Byuu's Higan/bsnes in accuracy mode is close to being on par, and requires far more processing power than the humble RPi can output.
I don't get it because I can actually buy an original nes or snes console and a multicart for less money
I can't. SNES consoles average around $100 where I am. Good quality multicarts well over $100 (ignoring the SuperFX2 incompatibility, which adds cost again).
Again, I do prefer (and own and use) real hardware, do prefer Linux and love RPi hardware, and am not buying a SNES Mini. But I 100% understand why others would. The potential market for them is large, and their value is fantastic for many people who simply don't want to deal with the complexity (and it is complex for non-technical folk) of hooking up old consoles, sourcing old TVs, or dealing with Raspberry Pis.
Preferences are preferences. But there's clearly a huge market for these devices, and it's easy to see why.
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Nes/snes/genesis average about $40-50 here. Hooking up old consoles isn't complex. It's 3 wires that literally every tv 80's and up has. Do people know this?
I understand that setting up rpi is not easy nor perfect, but this is a byoac forum.
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Nes/snes/genesis average about $40-50 here. Hooking up old consoles isn't complex. It's 3 wires that literally every tv 80's and up has. Do people know this?
"Regular Joe" plugs his SNES into a HDTV via the composite plug, it's ugly and lags. Others tell him to get SCART cables, get framemeister upscalers, get extra stuff. "Regular Joe" just whinges it's all too hard. This is the basis of 90% of online discussions, and the entire reason why we've seen an explosion of "My Life In Gaming" style "retro console 101" YouTube channels, all of which are filled to the brim with comments saying that it's all too hard.
I'm 100% with you - this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is braindead easy. But even that is too hard for most folks. The technological divide is genuinely that large.
I understand that setting up rpi is not easy nor perfect, but this is a byoac forum.
And the members of BYOAC represent the intellectual 1%. I'm genuinely not trying to be arrogant about these things, but quite legitimately most regular folks consider what we do here akin to rocket science.
Try chatting to an average person about Linux, emulation, retro consoles, video standards or any of it. You may as well talk nuclear fission.
Again: I'm with you. I'd take real hardware any day, and won't be buying a SNES Classic for all of the reasons you've outlined. But once again, I 100% understand why so many people will buy one, and why they're so popular as a true legal and high quality plug and play solution. I have countless friends who are buying and loving these things, despite me offering them solutions prior to the mini consoles existing. And to be honest, I'm absolutely fine with their choices. It reminds Nintendo that old games are worth selling, and is one less thing for me to be "neighbourhood I.T. guy" and fix.
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The top 1 percent? Please. There are plenty of incredibly smart people that don't care at all about any of this stuff.
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Im still waiting for the yellowed version to come out to match my snes.
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The top 1 percent? Please. There are plenty of incredibly smart people that don't care at all about any of this stuff.
Alright friend, I was just making a funny. Don't take it too seriously. Remember that I'm in agreement with you, even if my humour fell flat. I don't want one, but I totally get why so many others do. It's a great product.
The point remains: the reinforcement bias of a technical forum does not make for a fact finding mission that illustrates what the average person wants from a retro gaming toy.
Im still waiting for the yellowed version to come out to match my snes.
I've seen two folks already who've painted their minis like this.
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I HAVE A PI3 ALSO! It loads my Naomi roms on onto my NetDIMM. I remember when computers sucked and we wanted better machines to run emulators, now computers are awesome and people want to use ---smurfy--- RPis and :censored: 'ing BRAG about it. :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
With that out of the way, I tried to get a SNES mini but they were sold out everywhere. I had to work so I couldn't stay up till midnight to hit up a walmart, and all the stores near my job were sold out by the time my lunch break rolled around. I still have my childhood Nintendo but I regrettably sold my SNES collection a few years ago.
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Fair enough. I guess it is too early for my humor receptors to kick in.
It would be nice for someone who actually has one to chime in. This thread is in serious danger of becoming completely derailed.
That would be unfortunate because thread derailment is such a rarity here. ;D
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Every. ---smurfing---. Thread.
Anyway, sold out everywhere in Houston within 15 minutes of stores opening. Given how many were at each store, I have much higher hopes this time around. Other option is I throw in the towel and import a Famicom Mini from Japan and flash the software.... again.
:cheers:
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Every. ---smurfing---. Thread.
Anyway, sold out everywhere in Houston within 15 minutes of stores opening. Given how many were at each store, I have much higher hopes this time around. Other option is I throw in the towel and import a Famicom Mini from Japan and flash the software.... again.
:cheers:
You know what, it's friggin brutal because there could possibly be enough for many people to have it but the stupid scalpers went out and bought MULTIPLE units somehow. They are loading up on all the units even though they have no intention of using them or gifting them etc. They just want to hoard them and sell them for a profit near christmas time forcing people to either shell out the cash for more than double what its worth or disappointing their kids. Hate it so much.
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Every. ---smurfing---. Thread.
pis and air craft carriers, welcome to the new BYOAC.
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"Muh Raspberry Pi" in the first. ---smurfing---. reply. This is so damn tiresome.
We get it. You have a pi. So do I, big whoop.
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I have a pi. I have a modded xbox, I have several modded wi's and a modded wi-u.
But I still want an SNES classic. I agree with an earlier poster that the quantities available at launch seem to indicate that getting one for retail price should be much easier this time around. Lets hope.
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I also have multiple ways to play the games offered on the SNES classic (including original hardware with an SD2SNES). But as a collector of all things "video game related", I think these mini classic systems are kinda neat and am planning on getting one. I hope I can get my hands on one and also on the NES classic when it gets re-released...
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Hey guys,
Just wondering if anyone bought the new Snes Mini? As someone who already built a machine with multiple emulators I still went out and got one. Pretty neat for $99 but it's definitely missing some great games. I plan on adding a bunch more to it to make it really worth it.
Anyone else pick one up?
No. I got a raspberry pi that can emulate games and actually work with my crt. Has Bluetooth too.
Don't care about the crt, but agree on having a RPi over a SNES mini. Why would I buy something that does just 21 games and isn't the original? It's a nice idea, but not for me. Too expensive compared to a RPi or a cheap computer, that both can do more. I guess I am just not the collector-type. Heck, I even sold my SNES original and gave away some other older consoles.
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Can you Pi cultists please just start your own thread? You can all congratulate each other for being intellectually superior to us commoners. Then you can leave the rest of us alone. I think all of the Pi posts belong in Politics and Religion.
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Can you Pi cultists please just start your own thread?
Yes, please do. I want to immediately shitpost in it telling them all about how I think Pis are stupid and how my choice of device is better.
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Lemme know when you can actually get a SNES Classic at MSRP :laugh2:
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Pretty neat for $99 but it's definitely missing some great games.
Anyone else pick one up?
Nope. I try not to get 'Lucased' anymore. (Buying the same thing through my life... over and over and over again - like Star Wars)
Getting to the point where one copy of everything is enough. Whether it is 'original' or not.
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Pretty neat for $99 but it's definitely missing some great games.
Anyone else pick one up?
Nope. I try not to get 'Lucased' anymore. (Buying the same thing through my life... over and over and over again - like Star Wars)
Getting to the point where one copy of everything is enough. Whether it is 'original' or not.
Hahahhaha I love this! Well said. I hadn't thought about it that way. You've kinda blown my mind.
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Can you Pi cultists please just start your own thread?
Yes, please do. I want to immediately shitpost in it telling them all about how I think Pis are stupid and how my choice of device is better.
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Can you Pi cultists please just start your own thread?
I'm actually a Linux cultist. I'm hardware agnostic.
Nope. I try not to get 'Lucased' anymore. (Buying the same thing through my life... over and over and over again - like Star Wars)
Getting to the point where one copy of everything is enough. Whether it is 'original' or not.
Definitely came up for me. Same goes with a lot of recent retro collections of stuff. Difficult though, because I want to support companies who release retro games for sale, but I'm also a bit over buying the same thing a dozen times (Street Fighter, I'm looking at you as a franchise).
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This just showed up on facebook and i thought of this thread
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I missed the 2 minute window they were sold in. I had other things to do besides wait for a website crash. As far as buying a real snes and buying a multicart I will just say I dont have faith in multicarts that say super mario bros 6 included on them.
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I picked up an SNES Classic on Friday without much trouble. Just went to Target and waited with a few other people for them to open (went about an hour before they opened. Easy for me, since I get off work at 6 in the morning). There were a bunch of people by the time they opened, but they looked like they had enough for everyone. They did the ticket in line method (I was number 5.) Good weather, no problems.
Haven't really been to any stores since then, so not sure what the current availability is.
I'm more for the SNES Classic than the Pi or other ways to play it because it's an official Nintendo product (so sue me, I wanted an official product, even though I have dozens of other products that can play emulated games). I think the emulation appears spot on. And by that, I mean it even seems to have slowdown in the same places as the original hardware (which is good in my eyes.)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=362596;image)
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Got one at Best Buy - went at 6:45am since I got an E-mail saying they'd pass out tickets starting at 7am -- the store I went to finally came out at 9am to pass the tickets out but had 100+ units for the 80 in line by 9 am( I was 46th in line getting there at 6:45 )
Almost skipped it after Walmart cancelled the pre-order I had and other sites sold out so quick but was up any way so went to check on the line and it was short enough that I decided to stay. They wound up having about 20 units left after clearing the line so could have saved a couple hours waiting by just going at opening time but it wasn't too bad and figure now I don't have to trade one of the 2 NES classics I got last year to someone to get 1. (though still might try to find someone with the EU version that wants to trade.)
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Stores around me (Brisbane, Australia) have all confirmed more stock due, and in decent numbers (i.e.: not single digits like the NES Mini). While the first lot went first, it seems Nintendo are so far delivering on their "more stock than the NES Mini" promise. Let's hope it continues through to Christmas.
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I have a pi also. She said if I spend money on frivolous stuff like an SNES Classic she would file for a divorce. So I am holding out for the Nintendo Switch Classic. And shouldn't this be posted in Consoles?
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If she actually said that, then you should buy two of them.
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I have a pi also. She said if I spend money on frivolous stuff like an SNES Classic she would file for a divorce. So I am holding out for the Nintendo Switch Classic. And shouldn't this be posted in Consoles?
Yup, my bad.
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I think main is fine, its not like you can swap carts in the mini and its emulation. Judging by the posts, it needs to be in the pi section.
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Something something Pi
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Just some ideas / dreams / complaining. Some of this is about how Nintendo handles their "vintage" library.
In my idealized, purely fantasy world, the NES and SNES Classic would be able to hook up to the Nintendo Switch (using the USB cable to the Switch dock.) Doing so would automatically add the games to the Switch Virtual Console library (which should be out already.) Then, any other games purchased on the Virtual Console could be pushed to the corresponding Classic unit. (probably include the ability to put Sega Genesis games on the SNES classic.)
In addition, battery-backed up saves and the real-time saves could be synced between the Switch and the Classic unit.
Probably need some way to keep the Classic console from activating the game on multiple Switch units (friends passing it around like some sort of unlock key.) Maybe the Switch writes a file to the Classic memory to uniquely identify it? An Internet connection would be needed on first-time hookup.
This would be the only way to get Star Fox 2 on the Switch for a year or so. Exclusivity.
Also, side note, the Virtual Console needs to be a separate "app" on the Switch, instead of each game having a separate icon on the main screen. Things got too cluttered on the Wii. Folders make it easier on the 3DS, but a separate app would still be better. Would save a bit of space too, if the app had common emulation "cores," instead of each game being an emulator-ROM package (I'm guessing that's how it works? Unless the emulators are in the system firmware). Wouldn't have to update all the games if there's a bug found in the emulation of a particular system either. Just the app.
Last bit of venting..err..idea. Let me transfer the VC games and remaining store balance from my Wii to my Switch, before the Wii store shuts down in early 2019 (from what I understand, you won't even be able to re-download purchased stuff after that.) It would be even better if all my Nintendo consoles could log into my Nintendo account and share games without having to rebuy them (like Google Play for Android phones), but I'd settle for transfer. I'd buy a lot more games if I knew they'd be available without repurchase a few systems down the road.
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Yeah, somehow Sony's figured out how to maintain active libraries across 3 consoles but it's an impossible task for Nintendo.
:dunno
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I love Pi.
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I love Pi.
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Lol
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http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/ (http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/)
:lol
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:laugh2:
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:applaud:
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Im still waiting for the yellowed version to come out to match my snes.
Have you seen this fix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7vXMezW_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7vXMezW_I)
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That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
Now we know who wrote this article. ::)
http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/ (http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/)
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That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
Now we know who wrote this article. ::)
http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/ (http://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/spend-80-snes-classic-can-install-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut----fudgesicle---/)
Links not working mate?
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Turn off the swearing censor, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---.
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Turn off the swearing censor, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---.
Where is the ---smurfing--- like button again? +1 imaginary rep
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Turn off the swearing censor, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---.
Ahh theres a naughty word in there somewhere then? Lol
Cant till on my moby :)
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Turn off the swearing censor, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---.
Ahh theres a naughty word in there somewhere then? Lol
Cant till on my moby :)
Try it on your lappy, homie.
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Turn off the swearing censor, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---.
Ahh theres a naughty word in there somewhere then? Lol
Cant till on my moby :)
Try it on your lappy, homie.
Maybe tomorrow amigo :)
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Also, side note, the Virtual Console needs to be a separate "app" on the Switch
Agreed. Would be nice to keep all the retro stuff off separate to the new stuff.
Yeah, somehow Sony's figured out how to maintain active libraries across 3 consoles but it's an impossible task for Nintendo.
Nintendo continually claim it will confuse their customer base. If anything, that says a lot to me about how little Nintendo think of their customers.
It's software, corporatebros. We're kind of used to it now.
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The whole point is that its a "retro" console that plays on a "non-retro" TV! Where will your Pi on a "retro" TV be when there are no more CRT's sold, or are expensive/in short supply? Alas, that won't be long.
Great, your Pi plays retro games. So does mine. So does my PC. So does my SNES console. It doesn't mean there isn't a market for the SNES classic mini. It is sold out EVERYWHERE after all, and I suspect the Pi isn't.
I know from that the Pi is a PITA to set up and keep working well and by the same token I know the SNES classic mini won't be. There is still a market for the SNES, whether you sleep with your Pi every night or not. My Pi is not a better device than the NES Classic Mini and I'm sure it isn't better than the SNES classic mini either.
Oh, and the SNES classic mini is legal - a Pi isn't with the SNES roms on it and nor is the multicart.
Want a SNES classic mini on a retro TV? Get a HDMI to Scart adapter. Simples.
That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
OP asked "Anyone buy the Snes Classic?". My answer was no and I explained why. It's pretty huge that a "retro" console won't connect to a "retro" tv. RPI 35 + power supply 10 + power switch 10 + sd card 10 + case 10 + PS3 wireless controller 20 = 95$, but you have a better device than the classic console. I don't get it because I can actually buy an original nes or snes console and a multicart for less money and have a console that will take original carts, work with any tv, just won't do shaders on new lcds.
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The whole point is that its a "retro" console that plays on a "non-retro" TV! Where will your Pi on a "retro" TV be when there are no more CRT's sold, or are expensive/in short supply? Alas, that won't be long.
Great, your Pi plays retro games. So does mine. So does my PC. So does my SNES console. It doesn't mean there isn't a market for the SNES classic mini. It is sold out EVERYWHERE after all, and I suspect the Pi isn't.
I know from that the Pi is a PITA to set up and keep working well and by the same token I know the SNES classic mini won't be. There is still a market for the SNES, whether you sleep with your Pi every night or not. My Pi is not a better device than the NES Classic Mini and I'm sure it isn't better than the SNES classic mini either.
Oh, and the SNES classic mini is legal - a Pi isn't with the SNES roms on it and nor is the multicart.
Want a SNES classic mini on a retro TV? Get a HDMI to Scart adapter. Simples.
That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it. The op wants to hear from someone who bought a mini.
OP asked "Anyone buy the Snes Classic?". My answer was no and I explained why. It's pretty huge that a "retro" console won't connect to a "retro" tv. RPI 35 + power supply 10 + power switch 10 + sd card 10 + case 10 + PS3 wireless controller 20 = 95$, but you have a better device than the classic console. I don't get it because I can actually buy an original nes or snes console and a multicart for less money and have a console that will take original carts, work with any tv, just won't do shaders on new lcds.
It would estimate the cost for Nintendo to add composite out to make the device compatible with virtually every tv in the world less than a dollar. It is a retro console, that doesn't work with a retro tv. Not all, but many people still have a crt at home.
On topic - what is the OP even asking? And they posted in the wrong sub forum.
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I was just asking this BYOAC community if anyone had or was thinking of picking up an SNES mini and if so what your thoughts are on the device.
I guess I could have posted in a different spot in the forums. I was more or less just interested in the opinions of the people in this community.
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I was just asking this BYOAC community if anyone had or was thinking of picking up an SNES mini and if so what your thoughts are on the device.
I guess I could have posted in a different spot in the forums. I was more or less just interested in the opinions of the people in this community.
No, you're fine. Some people don't like that not everyone worships at the Church of Pi.
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I was just asking this BYOAC community if anyone had or was thinking of picking up an SNES mini and if so what your thoughts are on the device.
I guess I could have posted in a different spot in the forums. I was more or less just interested in the opinions of the people in this community.
No, you're fine. Some people don't like that not everyone worships at the Church of Pi.
Thankyou. :cheers:
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I think main is fine, its not like you can swap carts in the mini and its emulation. Judging by the posts, it needs to be in the pi section.
I guess it's fine to discuss Raspberry Pi's then in this "main-topic" :)
Still don't get why people would buy a $100 retro-console, while you can emulate multiple with a device (as I said a PC or... RPi) cheaper or just as expensive. For collecting/hoarding? Sure, if that's your thing, go for it. But that's not for me... Feels like throwing money away. Especially if you already have a machine capable of emulating consoles (as almost everybody has on this forum).
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I think main is fine, its not like you can swap carts in the mini and its emulation. Judging by the posts, it needs to be in the pi section.
I guess it's fine to discuss Raspberry Pi's then in this "main-topic" :)
Still don't get why people would buy a $100 retro-console, while you can emulate multiple with a device (as I said a PC or... RPi) cheaper or just as expensive. For collecting/hoarding? Sure, if that's your thing, go for it. But that's not for me... Feels like throwing money away. Especially if you already have a machine capable of emulating consoles (as almost everybody has on this forum).
I hear ya. For me like many others here I built a standup arcade with emulators and I love it but I also love the plug and play aspect of this Snes classic. $100 for something that is already developed and has a casing and ready to go isn't bad for me considering how much I spent on my basic standup setup. That's like the cost of one of my aimtraks lol.
However I wouldn't have bought the Snes classic it if it wasn't hackable. I'm not spending $100 for 21 games. That being said it's nice to hear everyone else's opinion like yourself because you and others raise good points.
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Still don't get why people would buy a $100 retro-console, while you can emulate multiple with a device (as I said a PC or... RPi) cheaper or just as expensive.
It's $80 , plug and play with no set up / config, no SDCards, comes with 2 very authentic controllers, its pretty much idiot proof, and you support the parent company and dont have to steal any roms.
Stealing software and utilizing ---smurfy--- hardware is great, if it wasnt Pandora's boxes wouldnt be a thing.But if there's no companies left to make new stuff ; what are you going to steal in the future?
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Still don’t get why these Pi-sters think it’s cheaper. With the cost of controllers, a suitably large enough SD card, and time (= money) for setting up and endlessly tweaking not only emulator settings, control configurations, and input lag settings...the price exceeds something like this.
Besides, pi’s are for the filthy casuals. >:D
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... and the Pi takes 3 minutes to boot and shits the bed if you cut the power.
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Still don't get why people would buy a $100 retro-console, while you can emulate multiple with a device (as I said a PC or... RPi) cheaper or just as expensive. For collecting/hoarding? Sure, if that's your thing, go for it. But that's not for me... Feels like throwing money away. Especially if you already have a machine capable of emulating consoles (as almost everybody has on this forum).
I work in IT all day so screwing around with emulators and front-ends is by far my least favorite part of this hobby. I haven't bought an SNES Classic yet but likely will should one come available for MSRP. Plug and play via HDMI sounds real good.
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... and the Pi takes 3 minutes to boot and shits the bed if you cut the power.
Da fuk are you booting? It take 18 sec to fully boot lakka on rpi1.
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Emulation Station does take a long time to boot. Haven't tried lakka...but again, the amount of time it takes to reconfigure yet another set-up just turns me off. I'd rather spend that time playing games than sifting through a handful of text files and hitting switches.
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I'll seriously out cash on the barrel head for a Pi image that doesn't suck. I downloaded a few "complete sets" and attract mode sucks balls on it. Did love the Game Gear theme where the game image was two inches and blocked by glare. :P
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I'll seriously out cash on the barrel head for a Pi image that doesn't suck. I downloaded a few "complete sets" and attract mode sucks balls on it. Did love the Game Gear theme where the game image was two inches and blocked by glare. :P
I’ll agree with that. I tried retropie, didn’t even finish setting it up to the point of playing a game - and was already looking for something else. I have no complaints with lakka. Using rgui to display 240p. Attract mode on it would be cool as I develop theme and modules for attract mode, but I’m ok with it as is because it works extremely well. I’m using a rpi2 and the thing is quick.
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You guys think Nintendo is waiting until after oddsey to start pushing these again?
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Wow guys, it's not about that whole RPi (though it's fun to bring it up in every post). Most of the people here own a device (PC or whatever) that can emulate NES and SNES, so why bother to buy another (expensive) device? And of course I do get why people do so. But that's just not my thing. I rather spend that money on something else. Another RPi for instance ;) Or beer. Or both.
Never knew that PC and RPi in the Arcade scene were like iOS and Android. Everybody has his own opinion (and expresses that once in a while), but respect that. Otherwise you are a really pathetic person in my opinion. Belittling people because of an opinion or preference, is just sad.
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Or a NUC with LaunchBox.
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I don't plan on buying it... (yes I have a Rasberry Pi). I just hate how every company is cashing in on the nostalgic thing... Plus I can't stand Nintendo, for all of the bs they put you fan boys through... Release NES classic... run out right away, release more... run out right away, stop production (due to costs?). Release Nintendo Switch... run out of consoles, Release SNES classic... run out right away. Etc.
Nintendo has to be the worst company right now. Can't keep up with demand, keeps releasing more hardware, creates this black market of $200+ nes classics. It's freaking crazy!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb5DA2wbqBBkwTu/200_s.gif)
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I don't plan on buying it... (yes I have a Rasberry Pi). I just hate how every company is cashing in on the nostalgic thing... Plus I can't stand Nintendo, for all of the bs they put you fan boys through... Release NES classic... run out right away, release more... run out right away, stop production (due to costs?). Release Nintendo Switch... run out of consoles, Release SNES classic... run out right away. Etc.
Nintendo has to be the worst company right now. Can't keep up with demand, keeps releasing more hardware, creates this black market of $200+ nes classics. It's freaking crazy!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb5DA2wbqBBkwTu/200_s.gif)
Like pbj said....
Yeah, somehow Sony's figured out how to maintain active libraries across 3 consoles but it's an impossible task for Nintendo.
:dunno
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I don't plan on buying it... (yes I have a Rasberry Pi). I just hate how every company is cashing in on the nostalgic thing... Plus I can't stand Nintendo, for all of the bs they put you fan boys through... Release NES classic... run out right away, release more... run out right away, stop production (due to costs?). Release Nintendo Switch... run out of consoles, Release SNES classic... run out right away. Etc.
Nintendo has to be the worst company right now. Can't keep up with demand, keeps releasing more hardware, creates this black market of $200+ nes classics. It's freaking crazy!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb5DA2wbqBBkwTu/200_s.gif)
Just to be clear I am not a Nintendo Fanboy, I was always more of a Genesis/Sega Cd/Dreamcast kid. I actually never owned a Nintendo product aside from the Virtual boy ahahahaha That being said I purchased this as a plug and play device that I did not have to create! Man the hours and hours I spent with Hyperspin lol But ya I HATE the black market.
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Since this thread is off the rails anyway, I might as well chime in...
I can fully boot into emulation station game-ready in less than 20 seconds on my Pi. By the time I find the controller and sit back down on the couch, it's ready to play. Matter of fact, I think my only complaint is that it takes longer to shut down than start up. :-\
I REALLY wanted a NESC and SNESC, be ended up not buying either. The way Nintendo handled the launch of these systems was colossally bad. I was just off-put by the whole thing. It baffled me how hard they made it to get one. And having a job/life should not preclude getting one.
I may reconsider next year when all the nerd-hype has vanished, scalpers have moved on, and they wind up on end caps at Target.
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Otherwise you are a really pathetic person in my opinion. Belittling people because of an opinion or preference, is just sad.[/size]
So, you're a really pathetic person since your are belittling people because of an opinion or preference?
Im with veee-dub, I want one but I can wait.
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veee-dub,
I like that. ;D
Imaginary turbo-rep for you!
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Never knew that PC and RPi in the Arcade scene were like iOS and Android.
Stick around longer.
Everybody has his own opinion (and expresses that once in a while), but respect that. Otherwise you are a really pathetic person in my opinion. Belittling people because of an opinion or preference, is just sad.
Kettle, you black.
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I would probably have a much higher opinion of the Raspberry Pi if not for the Raspberry Pi community.
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Beyond all the banter.
I'll add in that I bought one of these on pre-order with intentions of giving it to one of the grandkids for christmas.
It arrived Tuesday. The quality is good, the menu is good. Should be easy and super mario kart plays well.
BUT to be honest, it feels about the same as the NES classic attract mode setup for Pi3 that someone did recently.
It wouldn't transplant itself with my own pi setups, but Nintendo did a nice job on the licensed product.
It would have been better at 40 bucks rather than 80 for what it is.
This SNES variant looks like it would do the trick if you can't get ahold of a SNES at a reasonable price and want to try the Pi world.
http://www.rasptendo.com/?product=rasptendo-retro-gaming-case (http://www.rasptendo.com/?product=rasptendo-retro-gaming-case)
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I would probably have a much higher opinion of the Raspberry Pi if not for the Raspberry Pi community.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/b62ce7ece21d5d6e19e0aff9cedab41c.gif)
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This SNES variant looks like it would do the trick if you can't get ahold of a SNES at a reasonable price and want to try the Pi world.
http://www.rasptendo.com/?product=rasptendo-retro-gaming-case (http://www.rasptendo.com/?product=rasptendo-retro-gaming-case)
Thanks for the heads up.
I'm not usually a fan of the US-styled SNES. But damn, that looks good.
I just wish I'd known about this new case a few weeks ago when I bought a Nespi case. The Nespi cases are nice but they have to be modded before the reset button will run a power down script.
From the product's set up instructions, it looks like the reset switch on this newer case will work properly out of the box.
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Im going to go into all the pi threads and suggest they replace the pi with the guts from a SNES Classic.
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I just wish I'd known about this new case a few weeks ago when I bought a Nespi case. The Nespi cases are nice but they have to be modded before the reset button will run a power down script.
The injection mold one here is WAY better: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8 (https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8)
DeL
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I downloaded a few "complete sets" and attract mode sucks balls on it.
That was your first mistake. The "complete set" images are generally a major PITA. They take forever to download, only fit on stupidly expensive SD cards, and you'll never play 99% of the games on them.
I've had much better luck with the smaller more tightly focused images. For example, I tried out MaxLittlePixel's Nintendo classic image about 6 months ago, and I've never looked back. It's only 8gb but contains pretty much every NES/SNES/Famicon game ever made.
Since then I haven't bothered with images over 8gb. They tend to be full of mostly untested shovelware, and the vast number of games makes the menus too unwieldy to navigate.
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I just wish I'd known about this new case a few weeks ago when I bought a Nespi case. The Nespi cases are nice but they have to be modded before the reset button will run a power down script.
The injection mold one here is WAY better: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8 (https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8)
DeL
The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
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I just wish I'd known about this new case a few weeks ago when I bought a Nespi case. The Nespi cases are nice but they have to be modded before the reset button will run a power down script.
The injection mold one here is WAY better: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8 (https://www.amazon.com/Super-Tinytendo-Raspberry-Model-Cooling/dp/B074JJRWHH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506883328&sr=1-1&keywords=tinytendo&linkCode=sl1&tag=e074d-20&linkId=fc38bb3b994abb5bc245678b4c19a1f8)
DeL
The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
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Im going to go into all the pi threads and suggest they replace the pi with the guts from a SNES Classic.
Yeah, I've been patiently waiting for a new Pi thread all week. :(
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I don't plan on buying it... (yes I have a Rasberry Pi). I just hate how every company is cashing in on the nostalgic thing... Plus I can't stand Nintendo, for all of the bs they put you fan boys through... Release NES classic... run out right away, release more... run out right away, stop production (due to costs?). Release Nintendo Switch... run out of consoles, Release SNES classic... run out right away. Etc.
Nintendo has to be the worst company right now. Can't keep up with demand, keeps releasing more hardware, creates this black market of $200+ nes classics. It's freaking crazy!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb5DA2wbqBBkwTu/200_s.gif)
Just to be clear I am not a Nintendo Fanboy, I was always more of a Genesis/Sega Cd/Dreamcast kid. I actually never owned a Nintendo product aside from the Virtual boy ahahahaha That being said I purchased this as a plug and play device that I did not have to create! Man the hours and hours I spent with Hyperspin lol But ya I HATE the black market.
Oh, I wasn't talking about you specifically... I have a lot of friends that are just die hard (to the point of being obnoxious) fanboys.
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The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
Retroflag does make nice NESPi cases, but you need to do a mod and install a script to send a safe shutdown command instead of just interrupting power when you press the reset button.
So far, the easiest mod for the NES case (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DSXF7F/) appears to be the one in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYwjd23lB4) by ETA PRIME.
- Bridge a few solder points (red lines)
- Solder two resistors and a wire with a female Dupont pin (yellow line) that connects to GPIO pin 5
- Install the script
(https://photos-5.dropbox.com/t/2/AAAkIivwE6ukEpE8Am12F_D2d0i4CJn9JfFFOBwL9h8w0w/12/238271688/jpeg/32x32/3/1507255200/0/2/nespi%20case%20power%20button.jpg/EMmUyNEBGKUFIAcoBw/Q5tqz5gLMKfDgNAUckpij3pbU-60MQy6HlTlALi9Ck4?dl=0&size=1280x960&size_mode=3)
Of course, if you want something easier, fully-legal and more bulletproof, a NES classic/SNES classic is the better choice. ;D
Scott
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The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
I have the RetroFlag NesPi case and I connected mine with the default wires. It instantly powers off and resets. (Hard power and hard reset). Haven't had a corrupt image yet. I have the SD card imaged so if it does get corrupted I simply re-image it in 10 minutes. But again, never had an issue. For me, it's not worth the hassle to mod and add the extra shutdown script.
However, you're right, the SNES one doesn't have the power and rest. But VWBus is right, the RetroFlag SNES case is going to be just as good and I'm sure it will include both power and reset as well once it's released.
http://youtu.be/aWw9YRN-ZfE (http://youtu.be/aWw9YRN-ZfE)
DeL
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The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
Retroflag does make nice NESPi cases, but you need to do a mod and install a script to send a safe shutdown command instead of just interrupting power when you press the reset button.
So far, the easiest mod for the NES case (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DSXF7F/) appears to be the one in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYwjd23lB4) by ETA PRIME.
- Bridge a few solder points (red lines)
- Solder two resistors and a wire with a female Dupont pin (yellow line) that connects to GPIO pin 5
- Install the script
Scott
I was going to do this very mod last week but then it occurred to me that it is a somewhat pointless mod. You don't ever really have to use the Reset switch on the case. If you need to exit a game just hold start + select at the same time. And if you need to shut down the system, just use the shutdown command build into the software.
I guess if you want to show someone a neat trick, you could do this mod...but I found it to not really be worth the trouble.
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That was a really helpful reply. Everybody knows you have a pi. We get it.
Wait, what's this now? I didn't know that. I must have been the lone hold-out. Now that I'm finally up to speed, you're right, he should never mention it again.
Im going to go into all the pi threads and suggest they replace the pi with the guts from a SNES Classic.
I endorse this idea. The differences between the responses you get doing that versus the responses in this thread have the potential to teach you a lesson.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb5DA2wbqBBkwTu/200_s.gif)
I think of it as nerd magic. They can create drama out of thin air.
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Can you Pi cultists please just start your own thread? You can all congratulate each other for being intellectually superior to us commoners. Then you can leave the rest of us alone. I think all of the Pi posts belong in Politics and Religion.
tell ya what.
come to a truce, pi cultists will pull back if the guys that have a brain aneurysm every time pi is mentioned pull back also.
the main forum can be a neutral zone where pi and anti-pi unofficially comment. :)
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The greatest irony of all: the "anti-Pi-comment" comments actually outnumber the "Pi" comments by a ratio of about 10:1. That alone is hilarious.
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The greatest irony of all: the "anti-Pi-comment" comments actually outnumber the "Pi" comments by a ratio of about 10:1. That alone is hilarious.
so should i switch the text of my proposed armistice to the "anti-pi cult"? :)
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Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
You may not have to wait. This one looks good and has both power and reset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxwcF8BcFk# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxwcF8BcFk#)
Grab it here:
https://www.argon40.com/rasptendo/rasptendo-retro-gaming-case.html (https://www.argon40.com/rasptendo/rasptendo-retro-gaming-case.html)
DeL
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Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
You may not have to wait. This one looks good and has both power and reset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxwcF8BcFk# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxwcF8BcFk#)
Grab it here:
https://www.argon40.com/rasptendo/rasptendo-retro-gaming-case.html (https://www.argon40.com/rasptendo/rasptendo-retro-gaming-case.html)
DeL
Not bad....and looks like the best version so far.
I'd like to hold out for the EU version. It just looked so much better than the US version.
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Otherwise you are a really pathetic person in my opinion. Belittling people because of an opinion or preference, is just sad.[/size]
So, you're a really pathetic person since your are belittling people because of an opinion or preference?
Wow, you're an arrogant and dumb ---tallywhacker---. Were you bullied at school? You are the reason normal people don't like specialist forums.... Arrogant ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- with no arguments (because if someone does if differently than !, it's wrong!!).
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Just found this thread. Didn't realize the anti-pi and pro-pi camps were at war. I posted my Pi R2D2 build here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,155476.msg1631425.html#msg1631425 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,155476.msg1631425.html#msg1631425) It's a pretty sweet case that holds the controllers and cables when not playing.
My Pi takes less than 20 seconds to come up and the theme is called Comic Book. It's the best one out there (not opinion! lol)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=155476.0;attach=362683;image)
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I don’t think it’s pro-Pi vs anti-Pi so much as it’s pro-Pi vs STFU About the Pi
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Yotsuya is exactly correct.
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For example, in a thread about the SNES classic you posted about your R2D2 Pi build like it was totally on topic.
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Just found this thread. Didn't realize the anti-pi and pro-pi camps were at war.
Don't forget the don't-give-crap-but-enjoying-the-over-reaction camp.
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Its pretty intense in here. Next thing you know people will be fighting over DC vs Marvel. Or Chevy vs Ford. Or Yotsuya vs pbj.
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For example, in a thread about the SNES classic you posted about your R2D2 Pi build like it was totally on topic.
Oh geez, I see Get-Off-My-Lawn Malenko is just as cheerful as ever. I'm so sure all your posts are on target.
Maybe I'm getting my streams crossed, but I thought someone said something about the Pi's taking 3 minutes to boot and having terrible front ends. I posted a pic of a cool front end and shared my experience of boot times. Seems on topic to me. ;)
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Give the man a break. Without false equivalencies, what's he got left?
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Leapinlew, just out of curiosity, is your pi completely set-up? Like all emulators work, with the right control configs and input-lag tuned for your LCD?
If so, may I ask how long it too you total to get it to this point?
2 big factors I can't stand the Pi. Set-up time, and the fact the emulators are out of date. Mame especially.
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For example, in a thread about the SNES classic you posted about your R2D2 Pi build like it was totally on topic.
Oh geez, I see Get-Off-My-Lawn Malenko is just as cheerful as ever. I'm so sure all your posts are on target.
Maybe I'm getting my streams crossed, but I thought someone said something about the Pi's taking 3 minutes to boot and having terrible front ends. I posted a pic of a cool front end and shared my experience of boot times. Seems on topic to me. ;)
Dont feed Drake Rew
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Leapinlew, just out of curiosity, is your pi completely set-up? Like all emulators work, with the right control configs and input-lag tuned for your LCD?
If so, may I ask how long it too you total to get it to this point?
2 big factors I can't stand the Pi. Set-up time, and the fact the emulators are out of date. Mame especially.
It's completely setup for me.
I don't use it for mame, I'm only using it for consoles, so I avoided that whole mess. I use iPacs and PC's for my mame setups. I don't think the Pi has enough ass to deal with Mame, not to mention, I'm not sure how the setup would go. Hell, I have enough issues using an ipac and getting my game selection, button mappings, etc. to make sense.
For consoles, it works great. The only issue I had was changing an icon that displayed as Sega Master System icon instead of Sega Genesis. I'm only playing Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and Genesis on it. I only loaded the games on it that I want to play, because I'm done with scrolling through 200 games I'll never play to get to the game I want.
As for input-lag, I've experienced that only once with a modded Wii. Even if I put the TV in game mode. The Pi, with the TV I'm using, has no noticeable lag. I play Super Mario World and other precision platformers and don't see any issues.
Maybe I went into the Pi with low expectations. It's certainly got it's place. I imaged the SD card and have loaded up other Pi's. I plug it in and unplug it without shutting it down proper. I've heard they take a dump when you do that, but I haven't seen that yet.
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Leapinlew, just out of curiosity, is your pi completely set-up? Like all emulators work, with the right control configs and input-lag tuned for your LCD?
If so, may I ask how long it too you total to get it to this point?
2 big factors I can't stand the Pi. Set-up time, and the fact the emulators are out of date. Mame especially.
I know you didnt ask me but i found the same as Lew generally.
Ive built 3 pi systems.
1) The Neo Geo bartop
2) A megadrive with MS,MS & 32x systems
3) NESpi with NES & SNES.
With the tv set to the correct AV mode no noticeable lag is present (mistake many people make with the pi)
I did have some trouble getting the controls to work correct on the megadrive pi but that was partly a problem of my own making and with a few hours of effort all sorted out.
But the NES I had built/programmed/set up & playing properly within maybe 4 hours.
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Finally found a case for my retro pi build.....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171007/0fb4c932e4449172fcb091b3f4fdce91.jpg)
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Finally found a case for my retro pi build.....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171007/0fb4c932e4449172fcb091b3f4fdce91.jpg)
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171007/02610944b44781750291e353f295dd85.jpg)
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Its pretty intense in here. Next thing you know people will be fighting over DC vs Marvel. Or Chevy vs Ford. Or Yotsuya vs pbj.
Let him who hath understanding reckon the words of Drake Tungsten: What you are seeing here, and elsewhere, is not PI vs ant-Pi. Nobody gets this emotional over a dinky piece of hardware. This has just been a band of chimps attempting to mark their territory, leaving the rest of us either confused or amused. We get that 'round these parts from time to time.
Dont feed Drake Rew
For the love of God, take this advice. To make it easier for you: In case you're not aware, there is a handy "ignore" feature in these forums. I encourage anyone who is worried about "feeding" me to make use of it. The fewer cowards there are making straw men of my words, the more enjoyable this place will be.
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I once went over to the surgery ward at my local hospital and found a older gentleman waiting to get a prosthetic hip. I mentioned to him “why pay for that when you can get a pi for $35!”. He punched me in the face... I felt shame.
The end.
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Back on topic, the SNES Classic has been hacked!
Now you can add your own games to it. I haven't done it yet, but from what I heard, other games will work even if they use special chips, like the Mega Man X2 and X3 games with the C4 chip.
Also you can select options to reset to the menu using a button combination on the controller.
Here's one of the videos. Not sure if it's the most current method, but I'm sure you guys in the know can hit the usual sites for the latest hacking methods.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3PCskAVCi4#)
(Edit: Video embedding doesn't seem to show up for me. I think it's on my end, but just click the link anyway.)
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^remove the “s” in https.
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Edited, but the video doesn't show up for me in the thread on either Chrome (my default browser) or Internet Explorer. Never seems to whenever someone posts a video here or on KLOV. All I see is a large blank space with "! No Longer Available" (but clicking that still takes me to the video.) Nobody else ever says anything, so it must be an issue with my computer.
*Tried it with Opera browser. It does show up there and works. Still says "! No long available" under it though. Wierd.
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Edited, but the video doesn't show up for me in the thread on either Chrome (my default browser) or Internet Explorer. Never seems to whenever someone posts a video here or on KLOV. All I see is a large blank space with "! No Longer Available" (but clicking that still takes me to the video.) Nobody else ever says anything, so it must be an issue with my computer.
*Tried it with Opera browser. It does show up there and works. Still says "! No long available" under it though. Wierd.
Same happens to me on iOS using safari. It's not just you.
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antiquated forum software
removing the S works in opera and firefox (on Windows)
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For all you Pi dickriders, now you can have the pretty SNES Menu and boast even more how it's a superior product. >:D
http://youtu.be/GHIuF5nDogg (http://youtu.be/GHIuF5nDogg)
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Niceee think I might get that for my Pitendo.
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I installed the NES classic version of that theme for a mini NES gift. Really went over well.
That's a good one. Good find!
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The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
Retroflag does make nice NESPi cases, but you need to do a mod and install a script to send a safe shutdown command instead of just interrupting power when you press the reset button.
So far, the easiest mod for the NES case (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DSXF7F/) appears to be the one in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYwjd23lB4) by ETA PRIME.
- Bridge a few solder points (red lines)
- Solder two resistors and a wire with a female Dupont pin (yellow line) that connects to GPIO pin 5
- Install the script
(https://photos-5.dropbox.com/t/2/AAAkIivwE6ukEpE8Am12F_D2d0i4CJn9JfFFOBwL9h8w0w/12/238271688/jpeg/32x32/3/1507255200/0/2/nespi%20case%20power%20button.jpg/EMmUyNEBGKUFIAcoBw/Q5tqz5gLMKfDgNAUckpij3pbU-60MQy6HlTlALi9Ck4?dl=0&size=1280x960&size_mode=3)
Of course, if you want something easier, fully-legal and more bulletproof, a NES classic/SNES classic is the better choice. ;D
Scott
I bought the resistors to do ETA PRIME's mod a few days ago. However, I've just come across an alternative mod that looks cleaner to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U)
I'm now going to follow this guy's basic approach except that I'm going to do the soldering on the solder side of the board. Also, unless I'm missing something, I don't think he needed to connect a wire to the ground pin. He could simply have not cut the ground trace to the switch.
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The problem with the case you linked to is that it doesn't appear to have working power and reset buttons.
Just wait for RetroFlag to release their SNESPi case. Those guys know how to make a nice RPi case.
Retroflag does make nice NESPi cases, but you need to do a mod and install a script to send a safe shutdown command instead of just interrupting power when you press the reset button.
So far, the easiest mod for the NES case (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DSXF7F/) appears to be the one in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYwjd23lB4) by ETA PRIME.
- Bridge a few solder points (red lines)
- Solder two resistors and a wire with a female Dupont pin (yellow line) that connects to GPIO pin 5
- Install the script
(https://photos-5.dropbox.com/t/2/AAAkIivwE6ukEpE8Am12F_D2d0i4CJn9JfFFOBwL9h8w0w/12/238271688/jpeg/32x32/3/1507255200/0/2/nespi%20case%20power%20button.jpg/EMmUyNEBGKUFIAcoBw/Q5tqz5gLMKfDgNAUckpij3pbU-60MQy6HlTlALi9Ck4?dl=0&size=1280x960&size_mode=3)
Of course, if you want something easier, fully-legal and more bulletproof, a NES classic/SNES classic is the better choice. ;D
Scott
I bought the resistors to do ETA PRIME's mod a few days ago. However, I've just come across an alternative mod that looks cleaner to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U)
I'm now going to follow this guy's basic approach except that I'm going to do the soldering on the solder side of the board. Also, unless I'm missing something, I don't think he needed to connect a wire to the ground pin. He could simply have not cut the ground trace to the switch.
I already did one case using ETA Primes video and it works fine - and is reversible fairly easily ( removing the solder bridges and resistors ) - saw this video the other day as well and the only thing I didn't like was the cutting of the traces (though I guess it could be reversed as well by bridging the cuts ) So either method should work fine - More interested in if he can get the second testing done to make the on/off switch be used to shut down rather than the reset button and then use the reset button for a game exit in the emulator ( had commented in the thread and he said he was looking into it - so will see if he works that out ! )
Think you are correct about the grounds but not positive.
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got my snes classic today, my good friend bobby (member name here hobojoe )actually got it for me and Im super pumped for it. All the hacks n stuffs are neat but mine will remain stock for a while.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U)
I'm now going to follow this guy's basic approach except that I'm going to do the soldering on the solder side of the board. Also, unless I'm missing something, I don't think he needed to connect a wire to the ground pin. He could simply have not cut the ground trace to the switch.
Thanks for mentioning this mod. :cheers:
The ground wire is needed because ground doesn't go through the switches.
On the power board, 5v comes in from the back panel to the power PCB, passes through the reset switch, through the power switch, back through the reset switch, to the power LED and GPIO.
5v in ---------|--------|
reset power
5v out --|---|--------|
LED
Scott
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-xUC7_A_U)
I'm now going to follow this guy's basic approach except that I'm going to do the soldering on the solder side of the board. Also, unless I'm missing something, I don't think he needed to connect a wire to the ground pin. He could simply have not cut the ground trace to the switch.
Thanks for mentioning this mod. :cheers:
The ground wire is needed because ground doesn't go through the switches.
On the power board, 5v comes in from the back panel to the power PCB, passes through the reset switch, through the power switch, back through the reset switch, to the power LED and GPIO.
5v in ---------|--------|
reset power
5v out --|---|--------|
LED
Scott
Ah, that makes sense.
However, one thing that did confuse me is that there appears to be two sets of traces that need to be cut (I presume the switch is double pole / double throw?). One set of traces is obviously for the power, but what's the other set for?
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Ah, that makes sense.
However, one thing that did confuse me is that there appears to be two sets of traces that need to be cut (I presume the switch is double pole / double throw?). One set of traces is obviously for the power, but what's the other set for?
Yes, reset is a momentary DPDT switch.
One pair of traces is going to the power button (through one pole of the reset switch), the other pair is coming from the power button. (through the other pole of the reset switch)
The reset button contacts are red. Jumper wires are green.
Before mod:
Reset not pressed (connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ____________|
reset power
5v out __________|
Reset pressed (no connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ______/______|
reset power
5v out ____/______|
After mod:
- Cutting the four traces completely removes the reset DPDT switch from the power path.
- Two jumpers complete the power path in place of the two poles of the reset switch.
- The COM and NO of one pole connect to GPIO pin 5 (input) and pin 9 (ground) to trigger the safe shutdown script.
_____
5v in ____| _/_ |____|
reset power
5v out __ _/_ ____|
|______|
Scott
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I picked an snes classic up at Target the morning. They had one left. They received a case yesterday and still had one left this morning. This bodes well for supply in the future. Don't pay a scalper, if I can randomly get one a week or two after release its not gonna be hard to pick one up.
I can't wait to mod mine with the nes classic game list and do a few other tweaks! :)
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I’ve been to Target twice in the last two days and I’ve just moseyed over to the Nintendo section to see if they have them, but neither one has had them.
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Did you actually ask? They're locked up in a cabinet here. No glass.
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I’ve been to Target twice in the last two days and I’ve just moseyed over to the Nintendo section to see if they have them, but neither one has had them.
Be sure to ask someone in the electronics section -- I did the same at the 2 stores here that showed they should have some and neither had any in the case - at the second store I asked the employee at the electronics desk and they had them in a drawer behind the cash register station - and I got the next to last one ( She told me they kept them there in order to not have to keep going and opening the display case to retrieve them !) - She then also checked the other store and it was showing 12 still in stock - so I guess they were doing the same !
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Enh, they were more cursory glances than anything.
I got my PiTendo up and running, I’ll save the $80.
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Yes, reset is a momentary DPDT switch.
One pair of traces is going to the power button (through one pole of the reset switch), the other pair is coming from the power button. (through the other pole of the reset switch)
The reset button contacts are red. Jumper wires are green.
Before mod:
Reset not pressed (connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ____________|
reset power
5v out __________|
Reset pressed (no connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ______/______|
reset power
5v out ____/______|
After mod:
- Cutting the four traces completely removes the reset DPDT switch from the power path.
- Two jumpers complete the power path in place of the two poles of the reset switch.
- The COM and NO of one pole connect to GPIO pin 5 (input) and pin 9 (ground) to trigger the safe shutdown script.
_____
5v in ____| _/_ |____|
reset power
5v out __ _/_ ____|
|______|
Scott
I've just modded my NesPi case using Glen Planamento's YouTube write up as a starting point, and it works! I didn't even need to install the script. For some reason it was already pre-installed on my RetroPie build.
Also, thanks for your explanation concerning the switches. However, you're slightly wrong. Before doing the mod, I did a continuity check across all the pins, and noticed that two of the traces are actually a single continuous trace that bypasses the reset switch. Therefore, you only need to cut two of the four traces.
When I get some time I'll do a full write up.
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Yes, reset is a momentary DPDT switch.
One pair of traces is going to the power button (through one pole of the reset switch), the other pair is coming from the power button. (through the other pole of the reset switch)
The reset button contacts are red. Jumper wires are green.
Before mod:
Reset not pressed (connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ____________|
reset power
5v out __________|
Reset pressed (no connection from COM to NC on both poles)
5v in ______/______|
reset power
5v out ____/______|
After mod:
- Cutting the four traces completely removes the reset DPDT switch from the power path.
- Two jumpers complete the power path in place of the two poles of the reset switch.
- The COM and NO of one pole connect to GPIO pin 5 (input) and pin 9 (ground) to trigger the safe shutdown script.
_____
5v in ____| _/_ |____|
reset power
5v out __ _/_ ____|
|______|
Scott
I've just modded my NesPi case using Glen Planamento's YouTube write up as a starting point, and it works! I didn't even need to install the script. For some reason it was already pre-installed on my RetroPie build.
Also, thanks for your explanation concerning the switches. However, you're slightly wrong. Before doing the mod, I did a continuity check across all the pins, and noticed that two of the traces are actually a single continuous trace that bypasses the reset switch. Therefore, you only need to cut two of the four traces.
When I get some time I'll do a full write up.
Please do!
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Also, thanks for your explanation concerning the switches. However, you're slightly wrong. Before doing the mod, I did a continuity check across all the pins, and noticed that two of the traces are actually a single continuous trace that bypasses the reset switch. Therefore, you only need to cut two of the four traces.
Thanks for the correction. :cheers:
I assumed the guy knew what he was doing so I didn't do continuity checks before doing the mod. :embarassed:
When I get some time I'll do a full write up.
Sounds great. ;D
Scott
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I got a hold of a SNES Classic on Saturday at Walmart. Ahh, memories. Just got to mod it and add more games.
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So it looks like Nintendo actually followed through with their promise to have a larger stock than the NES Classic. I've been reading everywhere that people are able to find them.
Yet, I still see people on CL or on the Facebook market trying to hock them for $200... :dizzy:
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Yet, I still see people on CL or on the Facebook market trying to hock them for $200... :dizzy:
I really want all the ---uvulas--- that bought extras to sell to get stuck with them.
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I scored one at Target on Saturday evening. They actually had a few of them available in the case which was a shocker. Kudos to Nintendo for doing a better job anticipating the demand. Like Malenko said, hopefully the scalpers will get stuck with a ton of extra units that they can't sell.
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Yet, I still see people on CL or on the Facebook market trying to hock them for $200... :dizzy:
I really want all the ---uvulas--- that bought extras to sell to get stuck with them.
Unfortunately they can simply return them in most cases for a full refund if they don't sell them. That said, we can at least get some enjoyment from the amount of time they wasted to try to flip these. :)
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Well, here's to hoping Amazon stocks them soon so I can return it to Target. Kinda stung spending actual money on that.
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Well, here's to hoping Amazon stocks them soon so I can return it to Target. Kinda stung spending actual money on that.
Amazon takes bitcoin? Or do you and Bezos have some kind of "arrangement"? ;D
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I've got like $500 in gift cards, bro. Lots of walking and taking surveys.
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Hey aren't you saving for Zapcon?
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Separate piles for separate purposes. I actually signed up for a vaccine trial to pay off ZapCon. If I pass the screening, it'll cover it. We'll see.
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Separate piles for separate purposes. I actually signed up for a vaccine trial to pay off ZapCon. If I pass the screening, it'll cover it. We'll see.
James is going to be Patient Zero at the next ZapCon
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Chikingunya and I hope to god I don't get the placebo. Vaccine is a measles variant that's been successful in Europe where human life is cheap.
What game list is everyone installing? I'm up to about 89 and it feels complete. I went through the IGN top 100 snes games and whittled off the stuff I'll never play.
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Does Nintendo make these things to support their native resolution or at least a perfect x2?
I've got an hdmi to vga adapter and scanline generator handy.
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Does Nintendo make these things to support their native resolution or at least a perfect x2?
I've got an hdmi to vga adapter and scanline generator handy.
The system has a Display settings you can go into.
(http://cdn.gamer-network.net/2017/usgamer/SNES-Classic-Display-Frame-5.png)
With all the hacking there may be more options at this point, but the 4:3 with custom borders seems to be the way to go.
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What game list is everyone installing?
Here’s what I got so far:
Aladdin
Axelay
Bahamut Lagoon
Blackthorn
Chrono Trigger
Contra III
Demon’s Crest
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Donkey Kong Country 3
Earthbound
Earthworm Jim
Final Fantasy IV (sfc translation)
Final Fantasy V (GBA translation port)
Final Fantasy VI (sfc translation)
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
F-Zero
Gradius 3
Hagane
Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius
Kirby’s Dream Course
Kirby Superstar
Knights of the Round
The Lost Vikings
The Lost Vikings 2
Mega Man 7
Mega Man X
Mega Man X2
Mega Man X3
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
Ogre Battle
Pilotwings
Pocky & Rocky
Pocky & Rocky 2
R-type III
Secret of Mana
Secret of Mana 2
Shadowrun
Starfox
Starfox 2
Street Fighter II Turbo
Stunt race FX
Sunset Riders
Super Bomberman
Super Castlevania IV (uncensored hack)
Super Ghouls n Ghosts (reduced slowdown hack)
Super Mario All Stars
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Super Metroid: Super Zero Mission (fan hack)
Super Off-road
Super Punchout
Super R-type
Super Star Wars
Super Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back
Super Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
TMNT: Turtles in Time
Tetris and Dr. Mario (overscan fix and cantering hack)
Zelda LTTP
Top Gear
Top Gear 2
U.N. Squadron
Unholy Knight (2017 ex-SNK developers fighting game)
Wild guns
Wrecking Crew ‘98 (translated)
Yoshi’s Island
Zombies Ate my Neighbors
I’m going to tweak the list more, get rid of a few things and perhaps add more RPG’s and a few more hacks.
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Super Putty?
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After 3 years of trying to make an Intel NUC become a Raspberry Pi for several different reasons I bought a Pi 3 with an NES case. Once I get the software going this weekend I want to install the following games:
Aladdin
Bust A Move 2
Doom
Earthworm Jim
Final Fight
Mortal Kombat 1,2,3
NBA Jam
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Super Mario World
Zelda Link To The Past
Zombies At My Neighbors (Thanks for reminding me Opt)
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MK1 on SNES.... really? MKII for sure but the first one? Must be nostalia /shrug
Why does everyone install NBA Jam over NBA Jam TE? I think NBA Hangtime is the better game (on SNES). Not a critique, a serious inquiry
Opt is missing Tetris Attack (aka panel de pon)
Some honorable mentions for less popular but fun games:
Megaman Soccer : If you like soccer this is a fun take on it
Legend of the Mystical Ninja : goofy japanese action game
(Saturday Night) Slam Masters : great port of the CPS2 game
Super Fire Pro Wrestling XP (Sardu translation) Best wrestling game with all your 90s favorites and like 100 slots to make your own wrestlers
EVO : You attack with your animal and evolve it (like upgrading your jaw, growing a horn, etc) gets butt ---smurfin--- hard at the end
Goof Troop : pretty brilliant game, if you can get past the theme
Rock n Roll Racing: You have to blindly get through the first few screens then soft reset on Canoe, then it works fine. RC Proam style game
Does SimCity count? This is my favorite version of the game, you can have Bowser attack your city!
Lots of people like Uniracers but I think it sucked.
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If you guys are not putting uniracers in your list, you need to reevaluate your life.
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I added Uniracer strictly to look cool, I dont like the game either.
Collage Slam > NBA Jame - Only because thats what I played growing up.
Killer Instinct
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Yeah I like Uniracers, but it doesn’t work properly in Canoe. The ghost unicycle doesn’t display properly while you play, and I find it distracting.
I avoided putting games on this thing that aren’t working well. Rock n Roll Racing included. If my nieces can’t just load up games without any weird tricks then they didn’t get on my list.
Tetris Attack is meh. Tetris in general is meh. I only have Tetris and Dr. Mario on this because I love competitive Dr. Mario. But anything else Tetris related bores the crap outta me. That goes the same for any wrestling game. Saturday Night Slam Masters as well. I only really give them a chance if I can play with 3 other buddies. But that ain’t happening on the SNESC.
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Tetris Attack is meh. Tetris in general is meh. I only have Tetris and Dr. Mario on this because I love competitive Dr. Mario. But anything else Tetris related bores the crap outta me. That goes the same for any wrestling game. Saturday Night Slam Masters as well. I only really give them a chance if I can play with 3 other buddies. But that ain’t happening on the SNESC.
BOOOOOOOO!
Also game has nothing to do with Tetris, like at all. No pieces drop from the top, its all tile swapping. They just renamed Panel De Pon to Tetris Attack that so stupid Americans would buy and play it , kind of like renaming pnickies "Dr.Robotniks mean bean machine" in the US.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8FtDgDPTbY#)
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Ooo I forgot Micro Machines to!!
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Tetris Attack is meh. Tetris in general is meh. I only have Tetris and Dr. Mario on this because I love competitive Dr. Mario. But anything else Tetris related bores the crap outta me. That goes the same for any wrestling game. Saturday Night Slam Masters as well. I only really give them a chance if I can play with 3 other buddies. But that ain’t happening on the SNESC.
BOOOOOOOO!
Also game has nothing to do with Tetris, like at all. No pieces drop from the top, its all tile swapping. They just renamed Panel De Pon to Tetris Attack that so stupid Americans would buy and play it , kind of like renaming pnickies "Dr.Robotniks mean bean machine" in the US.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8FtDgDPTbY#)
Yeah and its kirbys avalanche as well on the snes
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Ooo I forgot Micro Machines to!!
You also forgot the extra o on the end of too.
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Ooo I forgot Micro Machines to!!
You also forgot the extra o on the end of too.
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You spelled too with only one O. Forgetting the other O. You meant too=also. Not to=direction or to=affecting. C'Mon bro.
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I am still trying to figure out this one:
Ime = I'm
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Tetris Attack is meh. Tetris in general is meh. I only have Tetris and Dr. Mario on this because I love competitive Dr. Mario. But anything else Tetris related bores the crap outta me. That goes the same for any wrestling game. Saturday Night Slam Masters as well. I only really give them a chance if I can play with 3 other buddies. But that ain’t happening on the SNESC.
BOOOOOOOO!
Also game has nothing to do with Tetris, like at all. No pieces drop from the top, its all tile swapping. They just renamed Panel De Pon to Tetris Attack that so stupid Americans would buy and play it , kind of like renaming pnickies "Dr.Robotniks mean bean machine" in the US.
I guess I'm just not into puzzle games, 'cause that doesn't look interesting to me at all. Dr. Mario is fairly pedestrian enough for me to enjoy.
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I am the walrus goo goo g' joob
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Could be it, I love puzzle games like puzzle fighter. You do have the quintessential shumps list though!