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Title: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 07, 2016, 05:28:21 pm
Wondering if anybody can sort me out on these led roundtops?  Have to cut the wires and put on females to be able to connect to ultimate I/o harness...need to know up/down/left/righ/ground (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/bigruudz/Mobile%20Uploads/3471475F-D25F-494A-8430-162852037CA6.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/bigruudz/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3471475F-D25F-494A-8430-162852037CA6.jpg.html)

If anybody can chime in awesome! Can't find nothing online.

Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: BadMouth on November 07, 2016, 05:40:15 pm
The one with the trace that goes to all 4 switches is the ground.

The other 4 are your directions.  Nobody can tell you which color is which direction because it depends on what orientation the joystick is mounted in.  :P
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 07, 2016, 05:47:26 pm
Thanks for that but still confused
I understand the daisy chain for your ground, but you can't even see it inside the joystick, it's all internal?  I'm used to the clips on the outside but these don't have em

This "should be simple" joystick wiring isn't so simple on these crappy things.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 07, 2016, 05:55:56 pm
I do understand that it also differs which way you mount but I cannot find anything on my colour of wire harness to go by.

Yellow/red/black/grey/purple for both
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 07, 2016, 05:58:58 pm
All good I figured it out!
Thanks for your very quick help tho, thank you!
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: BadMouth on November 07, 2016, 06:48:02 pm
For the benefit of someone else looking for the info, which one was the ground?
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: JDFan on November 07, 2016, 09:51:55 pm
Depends on which connector you are using of the 2 5 pin -- If they are the same as carried on this site ( See attachment) then the site lists connection A ground as black and connection B ground is Yellow !!

Quote
Pinout connections:
Connection A
LEFT = RED
RIGHT = ORANGE
UP = YELLOW
DOWN = GREEN
GND = BLACK

Connection B
LEFT = ORANGE
RIGHT = BLACK
UP = GREEN
DOWN = RED
GND = YELLOW

Depending on if the machine is wired for Sanwa or Seimetsu joysticks - you use either connection A or B !


Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 07, 2016, 11:48:01 pm
Omfg

Please have a laugh at me but help me out
Rookie noob mistake
Panel is 3/4" with a 1/8" plexi and now the joysticks won't work! The shaft barely pokes through (Laff)

What do I do? Is there shaft extenders for joysticks??
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: ivwshane on November 08, 2016, 03:02:19 am
Route out the top of the cp panel and top mount them.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: big10p on November 08, 2016, 05:50:35 am
There are longer shafts and extenders available for some sticks, but you'd need to search around to see if they do them for your sticks.

You could also have worked out the pinout using a multimeter, testing for continuity with each direction switch pressed in turn.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: JDFan on November 08, 2016, 01:07:20 pm
Omfg

Please have a laugh at me but help me out
Rookie noob mistake
Panel is 3/4" with a 1/8" plexi and now the joysticks won't work! The shaft barely pokes through (Laff)

What do I do? Is there shaft extenders for joysticks??

See this thread - ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,51235.msg500626.html#msg500626 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,51235.msg500626.html#msg500626) ) -- It details the process for top mounting a joystick.

They do sell shaft extenders but the problem with going that way is the longer you make the shaft the more it changes the game play using them as the balltop has to move more from center to activate the switch due to the longer shaft !
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 09, 2016, 01:54:04 am
Jesus I am regretting buying these
Is there ANY WAY to tighten up the play? They are so sloppy...spring adjustment? I like a tight joystick that can take some abuse.

These things feel like I could blow it side to side....if anybody can give me some ideas that would be awesome, I know lots of you have prolly
Modded these??
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: Titchgamer on November 09, 2016, 08:22:24 am
Unfortunatly you get what you pay for with sticks!

I have never used these so I dont know but If they are sprung you may be able to replace them with harder/stiffer springs.

Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: Malenko on November 09, 2016, 08:27:42 am
Unfortunatly you get what you pay for with sticks!

Amen. Get some real sticks. Sticks and buttons are the 2 most important things and everyone always tries to skimp on them.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: Titchgamer on November 09, 2016, 08:28:36 am
Unfortunatly you get what you pay for with sticks!

Amen. Get some real sticks. Sticks and buttons are the 2 most important things and everyone always tries to skimp on them.

True dat!
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: BadMouth on November 09, 2016, 09:55:14 am
Eh, Sanwa JLFs feel crazy loose with the original springs too.  It's just a trait of the Japanese style sticks.
I've read that Japanese players don't hit restrictor like I do, they only move the stick as much as is necessary to engage that direction.

See how long and wide the spring is, then see if a 3-6lb Sanwa JLF spring would fit.
IIRC, I have 3 or 4lb springs in my JLFs.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: bcgamer on November 09, 2016, 11:30:49 pm
I opted out and ordered a couple of Happ Competition's.
Should be a nice upgrade
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: Titchgamer on November 10, 2016, 04:04:21 am
I opted out and ordered a couple of Happ Competition's.
Should be a nice upgrade

That should be much nicer.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: yotsuya on November 10, 2016, 08:45:01 am
Good for you. I never understood this fascination with LED lit joystick ball tops. They look gaudy AF.
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: BadMouth on November 10, 2016, 09:45:13 am
Good for you. I never understood this fascination with LED lit joystick ball tops. They look gaudy AF.

All cabs running Hyperspin are required to have at least 11 pieces of flair.

Chicken spears! Chicken spears!
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: yotsuya on November 10, 2016, 09:48:00 am
Good for you. I never understood this fascination with LED lit joystick ball tops. They look gaudy AF.

All cabs running Hyperspin are required to have at least 11 pieces of flair.

Chicken spears! Chicken spears!
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161110/7f618a9b758fb6566376f431263c5fd0.jpg)
Title: Re: Pic - somebody tell me wiring schem for these crappy ball tops ?
Post by: BadMouth on November 10, 2016, 09:50:41 am
https://youtu.be/Nr-_-XQnsjo?t=45s