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Title: Recess USB Port
Post by: jabbathehut on May 07, 2013, 04:00:41 am
Hi all,
Fairly new here but I'm tackling my first bartop, I've got the side panels cut out (At least for the most part, they may still need to be squared up a little, but that's another story). I'll get around to making a build thread one of these days hopefully once I've made more progress.

Since I was deprived as a child (Only owned an NES) I thought I'd make this arcade cabinet also emulate consoles, so I went out and bought USB controllers for N64, SNES, and even NES. *Shakes stick at Sega* :-P (Just kidding Sega... You're OK)

I figured it made the most sense to recess a hole into my the front panel of my arcade, and get a socket for a couple USB plugs. Does anyone know the best sockets out there, or if I'd be better of finding a couple male to female usb extenders and then throwing some bondo around it and then painting it.

If it makes a difference I am using 3/4 inch melamine coated particle board.

A quick amazon search revealed this: http://www.amazon.com/Clarion-CCAUSB-Extension-Cable-Integrated/dp/B001GXQMXE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367913281&sr=8-2&keywords=usb+socket (http://www.amazon.com/Clarion-CCAUSB-Extension-Cable-Integrated/dp/B001GXQMXE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367913281&sr=8-2&keywords=usb+socket)

Seems to just be a cable... Not sure why it commands a $22 price tag... I may have access to some similar cables from where I work. (Thank goodness for employee discount.)

If anyone has done this I'd appreciate their input. Thanks ahead of time!
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: edekoning on May 07, 2013, 07:16:03 am
Why not use something like I used on my cab: 'Neutrik NAUSB-W-B'? I bought them for about 6 euro a piece at arcadeshop.de (http://arcadeshop.de).

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server500/d90a4/products/196/images/1004/neutrik-usb-black__22557.1326515316.1024.768.jpg)
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: Drnick on May 07, 2013, 01:19:18 pm
I second the Neutrik connections. They are the cleanest way that I know of to have USB Passthrough.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: PL1 on May 07, 2013, 09:13:37 pm
+1 for the Neutrik NAUSB-W-B (black) or NAUSB-W (silver).

(http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088377.jpg)  (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088376.jpg)

Neutrik also makes color base-plates, covers, and a mounting plate -- see the data sheet (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/datasheets/bm/NEUTRIK_PRODUCTS/70088377.pdf) for more details.

(http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/DSS_Series.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_t2_1124754771.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_126988896.jpg)

On this side of the pond, you can get the feedthrus at:
Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70088377)
Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NAUSB-W-B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252bykxlHbbYuR%252bstsmPHmVkZjMM%3d)
Focus Attack (http://www.focusattack.com/neutrik-nausb-wb-ab-usb-feed-through-black/)
and many other vendors.


Scott
Title: Re: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: Brian74 on May 07, 2013, 09:56:05 pm
+1 for the Neutrik NAUSB-W-B (black) or NAUSB-W (silver).

(http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088377.jpg)  (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088376.jpg)

Neutrik also makes color base-plates, covers, and a mounting plate -- see the data sheet (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/datasheets/bm/NEUTRIK_PRODUCTS/70088377.pdf) for more details.

(http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/DSS_Series.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_t2_1124754771.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_126988896.jpg)

On this side of the pond, you can get the feedthrus at:
Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70088377)
Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NAUSB-W-B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252bykxlHbbYuR%252bstsmPHmVkZjMM%3d)
Focus Attack (http://www.focusattack.com/neutrik-nausb-wb-ab-usb-feed-through-black/)
and many other vendors.


Scott
I have two of them.

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Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: jabbathehut on May 08, 2013, 03:25:58 am
This is why you guys rock... That is PERFECT. I think I'd seen them used on some of the projects here, I just didn't know where to find them. Someone should make/sticky a thread for "random-knick-knacks-that-might-be-needed"™
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: Brian74 on May 08, 2013, 04:05:36 am
Before I got these, I took two buttons, removed the plunger, cut out the center and hot glued a short USB extension cord.

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Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: Unstupid on May 09, 2013, 03:49:31 pm
Cheaper... Vertical solder mount USB connector, a router, and a steady hand  ;):

(http://www.unstupid.com/myimages/usb1.jpg)

(http://www.unstupid.com/myimages/usb2.jpg)
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: DLinkOZ on May 09, 2013, 05:24:30 pm
Has anyone seen anything like the Neutrik that offers a safety catch?  I'd hate for a sugar-fueled nephew to accidentally unplug one of my guns, potentially causing me to go through and re-ID and set it up again.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: PL1 on May 10, 2013, 12:32:28 am
One of the main reasons for the Neutrik is the ability to easily plug and un-plug.

Maybe you can use a nylon loop clamp as strain relief.

Clamp shown is too large -- get the smallest that will still close.

They also come in black and most Ace Hardware stores sell them individually instead of having to buy a bag of them.

Protip: Take the USB cable with you and try the clamps on for size.   :cheers:


Scott
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: DLinkOZ on May 10, 2013, 01:14:56 am
That actually is a pretty simple solution.  Perhaps even attaching a some sort of elastic/spring so that an accidental tug doesn't result in either a reconfig (as-is and the plug pulls out) or something broken (clamped down, the strain finds the point of least resistance).
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: PL1 on May 10, 2013, 03:36:44 am
Consider using velcro for warning/shock absorption/deceleration.

8" each of hook and loop in a Y-configuration should do the trick.

Attach the hook (black) part + to the cab and the loop (red) part + to the cable ~1 foot from the end.

+---   ---+
      \/
      ||
      ||
      ||

When the cord is pulled, the the velcro will tear apart as the ~1 foot of slack is pulled straight.


Scott

Scott
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: nemesismachine on June 04, 2013, 04:44:27 pm
(http://www.l-com.com/product_images/detail/PWD_ECF504B-UBA.JPG)

http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-adapter-b-a-black (http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-adapter-b-a-black)
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: ebarlow99 on June 05, 2013, 11:14:09 am
I use one of these...allows you to have a keyboard, mouse, zip stick and headphones!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-USB-2-0-HUB-with-Audio-In-Desk-/390598677861?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item5af17ed565 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-USB-2-0-HUB-with-Audio-In-Desk-/390598677861?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item5af17ed565)

Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: pinballfreak on June 05, 2013, 08:31:54 pm
This is the USB port I used on my cabinet

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Under-Dash-Mount-Kit-w-6-Ft-Cable-for-iPod-Mp3-Aux-Male-Female-Ends-/200849008398?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item2ec388a70e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Under-Dash-Mount-Kit-w-6-Ft-Cable-for-iPod-Mp3-Aux-Male-Female-Ends-/200849008398?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item2ec388a70e&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: shponglefan on June 05, 2013, 10:12:11 pm
Can anyone confirm what hole size is needed for the Neutrik connector?  Based on the datasheet, am I right in that it's 24mm?  There are no units on the datasheet.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: edekoning on June 06, 2013, 02:36:32 am
24 mm is correct
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: PL1 on June 06, 2013, 10:56:03 am
Can anyone confirm what hole size is needed for the Neutrik connector?  Based on the datasheet, am I right in that it's 24mm?  There are no units on the datasheet.

Mr. Micrometer sez the hole needs to be at least 0.925" for us non-metric types.

The mounting plate is 1.022" wide.


Scott
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: keilmillerjr on June 11, 2013, 01:54:41 am
Cheaper... Vertical solder mount USB connector, a router, and a steady hand  ;):

Do you happen to have a link? Come in type A female? These look perfect for a professional look.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: PL1 on June 11, 2013, 12:54:16 pm
Maybe something like this (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70183117) would work.

(http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70183117.jpg)


Scott
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: keilmillerjr on June 11, 2013, 01:25:13 pm
I was able to find these (http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-116310x2-xx.html), but at 22.95 a piece, they are definitely out of budget. They look nice though. GTC (http://www.gtcontact.com/series8_1.html) makes them.

Still looking for those usb connectors with the recessed bolt hole tabs.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: JDFan on June 11, 2013, 02:44:25 pm
I was able to find these (http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-116310x2-xx.html), but at 22.95 a piece, they are definitely out of budget. They look nice though. GTC (http://www.gtcontact.com/series8_1.html) makes them.

Still looking for those usb connectors with the recessed bolt hole tabs.

Could use a wall outlet plate similar to these for about $5 or less - ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1NV0T67856 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1NV0T67856) )

I went with a couple spares like these :
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5030232316576576&pid=15.1)
 I had from an old case that fit into a back MOBO adapter slot and made mounting holles in the aluminum channel I had to use on the back of the cabinet (resizing the bartop plans didn't leave room inside for the PSU I had so created an opening so the back would fit) you can see them in this pic :

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc189/JDFanning_bucket/ROBOTRONFinished_zps8e16a848.jpg?t=1370976223)
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: Unstupid on June 11, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
Cheaper... Vertical solder mount USB connector, a router, and a steady hand  ;):

Do you happen to have a link? Come in type A female? These look perfect for a professional look.
Here is the ones I used: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/USB-B1SMVSW6/ED2993-ND/2677754 (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/USB-B1SMVSW6/ED2993-ND/2677754)

Type A are usually flanged at the end so I couldn't use those with a wood through hole.  I guess if you cut a metal mounting plate you could make it work but I find it easier to just but the A-B usb cable.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: jdbailey1206 on June 13, 2013, 08:25:20 am
+1 for the Neutrik NAUSB-W-B (black) or NAUSB-W (silver).

(http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088377.jpg)  (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/Small/70088376.jpg)

Neutrik also makes color base-plates, covers, and a mounting plate -- see the data sheet (http://www.alliedelec.com/images/products/datasheets/bm/NEUTRIK_PRODUCTS/70088377.pdf) for more details.

(http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/DSS_Series.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_t2_1124754771.jpg)  (http://www.mouser.com/images/neutrik/images/210_126988896.jpg)

On this side of the pond, you can get the feedthrus at:
Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70088377)
Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NAUSB-W-B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252bykxlHbbYuR%252bstsmPHmVkZjMM%3d)
Focus Attack (http://www.focusattack.com/neutrik-nausb-wb-ab-usb-feed-through-black/)
and many other vendors.


Scott

+1

I have yet to install mine but it seems the easiest route to measure and drill a hole and throw these bad boys in.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: stripe4 on June 13, 2013, 10:35:58 am
BTW, Farnell carries Neutrik products, too.
Title: Re: Recess USB Port
Post by: keilmillerjr on June 15, 2013, 07:56:10 pm
So, I coughed up the money for 2 of the Clarion CCAUSB units. I am very impressed with the quality. I like that they have a rubber cover to soemwhat hide them. I defiantly think they are over priced. With the two of these, I can plug in a mouse and keyboard for admin, and possibly some light guns.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001GXQMXE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001GXQMXE)

Off topic, but is there any good lighthun games that might work with 3.1 i3 4gb?