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Title: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: TGov on October 27, 2012, 01:48:50 pm
I am planning my CP layout and I am kind of limited on space and I am going with a NeoGeo'ish theme with Metal Slug for the cab.  The CP is a bit narrower than I like, but it is what I have since I am using a Dynamo cabinet.  I am not a big fighting game fan and what ones I do play I plan to just use the NeoGeo 4 button versions.  I am trying to squeeze a 2 1/4" trackball in there as I don't have the space on my vertical cabinet.  With that said, are there any other must play classic arcade games that require more than 4 buttons per player that you like?  The only ones I can think of off hand are the Asteroid series of games and Defender.   Both of which could have the left and right buttons mapped to the joystick, so that isn't an issue.  Toobin' is one, but again it could be 'faked' with a 4 button layout no more than I would play it.

Anything else?
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: paigeoliver on October 27, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
The 4 button neo geo button layout actually requires more room than the streetfighter layout does.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: TGov on October 27, 2012, 03:04:03 pm
Ya I know, i guess I didn't explain that correctly.  I am kind of replicating the look of a Neo-Geo CP with the graphics and everything and using a NeoGeo button layout takes more room.  Adding two more button makes it look all wonky so most people go with a 7 button layout to accomodate both styles, which I am trying to avoid.

Anyways, the original question is still valid.
Title: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: Cynicaster on October 27, 2012, 05:31:46 pm
Daioh is a 6 button shooter.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: sharpfork on October 27, 2012, 06:29:57 pm
You can look for a dynamo CPs that has a wood top & more space. This is my early testing CP on a Dynamo HS 5 where I checked if I would ever use 8 buttons with an Xbox in the cab.  I didn't.

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Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: dendawg on October 27, 2012, 07:21:41 pm
Defender has 5 buttons: Reverse, Hyperspace, Smart Bomb, Thrust, Fire.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: BadMouth on October 27, 2012, 07:42:08 pm
are there any other must play classic arcade games that require more than 4 buttons per player that you like? 

If you're not worried about the fighting games, you'll be fine with four.
I've seen a lot of small bartops with them in a diamond pattern, but never tried it myself.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: PL1 on October 27, 2012, 07:43:20 pm
Defender has 5 buttons: Reverse, Hyperspace, Smart Bomb, Thrust, Fire.

Stargate uses all of the above plus Inviso.


Scott
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: BadMouth on October 27, 2012, 07:46:05 pm
The only ones I can think of off hand are the Asteroid series of games and Defender.   Both of which could have the left and right buttons mapped to the joystick, so that isn't an issue. 
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: PL1 on October 27, 2012, 08:18:41 pm
The only ones I can think of off hand are the Asteroid series of games and Defender.   Both of which could have the left and right buttons mapped to the joystick, so that isn't an issue. 

You do know that Defender and Stargate used a 2-way vertical joystick and a reverse button instead of right/left controls, correct?

Theoretically, you could map joystick right and left to reverse and another function, but it seems like there would be a pretty steep learning curve to it and a high probability of messing up on the reverse and second joystick function.   :banghead:

Has anyone ever made a hacked version that uses an 8-way stick for direction and thrust and 4 buttons for Fire, Hyperspace, Smart Bomb, and Inviso?


Scott
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: MTPPC on October 27, 2012, 10:32:15 pm
Defender has 5 buttons: Reverse, Hyperspace, Smart Bomb, Thrust, Fire.
Some people remedy this by using right joystick ad thrust and left joystick as reverse. It's not ideal, but it can get you by if you only have 3 buttons.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: TGov on October 27, 2012, 10:53:07 pm
The only ones I can think of off hand are the Asteroid series of games and Defender.   Both of which could have the left and right buttons mapped to the joystick, so that isn't an issue. 

You do know that Defender and Stargate used a 2-way vertical joystick and a reverse button instead of right/left controls, correct?

Theoretically, you could map joystick right and left to reverse and another function, but it seems like there would be a pretty steep learning curve to it and a high probability of messing up on the reverse and second joystick function.   :banghead:

Has anyone ever made a hacked version that uses an 8-way stick for direction and thrust and 4 buttons for Fire, Hyperspace, Smart Bomb, and Inviso?


Scott

I have played Defender quite a bit with a 3 button setup and I have had no issues.  I actually find it easier to play than on a dedicated cab.  It isn't a favorite of mine so it isn't a big deal. 
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: PL1 on October 28, 2012, 07:28:45 am
I have played Defender quite a bit with a 3 button setup and I have had no issues.  I actually find it easier to play than on a dedicated cab.  It isn't a favorite of mine so it isn't a big deal.

Just tried it.  Works better than expected.   :cheers:

Guess I can scratch the plans for that dedicated standalone panel build.


Scott
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: harveybirdman on October 28, 2012, 12:46:48 pm
Shadow force has six though I doubt many would classify it as "must play " Daioh on the other hand ...
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: TGov on October 28, 2012, 01:05:32 pm
I can't get Diaoh to work on .147 anyways.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: BadMouth on October 28, 2012, 05:47:37 pm
I'd just map the bombs to a combination of other buttons.
1+2=5
3+4=6
.....or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: HanoiBoi on October 28, 2012, 07:36:18 pm
Gravitar is a favorite of mine that is 5 button.

Are you considering Space Duel as Asteroids family?

Some others with similar controls, but are 4 button, I'll mention as you might want to also consider for your button layout include Rip Off, Star Castle and Armor Attack.  (They'd probably be tough in a diamond pattern)
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: TGov on October 28, 2012, 08:00:16 pm
I haven't tried Gravitar but Space Duel is really easy by mapping the rotation to left and right on the joystick.
Title: Re: Non-fighting games that use 5+ buttons?
Post by: HanoiBoi on October 28, 2012, 08:35:03 pm
Oh, sure, you could map left/right to a joystick for most of the games I mentioned.  Sounds like you're asking about non-fighting games that require 5 or more buttons PLUS a joystick.  Probably not too many of those.