When are they going to be available? I don't see them on the site yet.
Nice work Randy :applaud: Just copied your post on posted it on another forum for more exposure to this and other great products you sell so hope you don't mind.
It looks good! Do you have pictures of how the LEDs mount?
Also, any comment on price?
I worked hard to keep the pricing consistent with the way it is currently. I need to go back over my numbers once more to be certain, but I think I can keep it the same.
Any idea how long until translucent colors will be ready? I am interested in orange of course.
Any idea yet on what will replace the current Green Novagems? I think I just bought your last few...
Curious as I would like to purchase replacements down the road if its a better product than the current greens.
Are these going to be offered in the full line of solid, non-translucent colors? I don't care about lighting them, I just like the ability to use the different switches.
Now why did you have to go and do this? True leaf switches? Do you realize how much this is going to cost me???+1 on that. now were do we get the leafs for them?
:cheers:
+1 on that. now were do we get the leafs for them?
I know everyone is gaga over lighted buttons, but I personally prefer standard colored ones. Are you planning on making these in standard non-translucent buttons at some point?
+1 on that. now were do we get the leafs for them?
The switches shown in the photo will be available as options for the buttons.
RandyT
I know everyone is gaga over lighted buttons, but I personally prefer standard colored ones. Are you planning on making these in standard non-translucent buttons at some point?
I already asked this above and received an answer.
I'm only using 4-5 per CP, but the buttons did take a 44% jump in price over the EI(1).
The True Leaf for +$1 is very interesting & tempting...
Likely to be very popular if you get the buttons in solid colors.
The True Leaf for +$1 is very interesting & tempting...
Likely to be very popular if you get the buttons in solid colors.
+1
I'd be very interested.
The True Leaf for +$1 is very interesting & tempting...
Likely to be very popular if you get the buttons in solid colors.
I did get the new translucent samples for NovaGems in today and they are sharp. They are molded from the very same colors used in pinball inserts and earlier leaf style buttons. A deeper and richer color than the current crop of translucents out there. They look incredible when lit.
Does this include the new Green? Just curious as you had mentioned "You would know more when the samples arrived" on the green situation?
Yes, there is no comparison. When lit, the green is very vibrant and attractive. Not "muddy" and uneven like the IL translucent green buttons are.
Wow I see what you mean..a lot more of a grass as opposed to "swamp" green :applaud:
Obviously the microswitch holder is different but I am assuming the hole at the bottom like the Novagem 1 buttons will still be 7/32" and we can slot our existing LEDs from the old Novagems into these?
does someone know a good post explaining the 3 different switches (cons vs benefits?)leafs are from OLD school games. Pac Man , Froger, ect. ect ect....
can I really tell the difference when playing a game like say... xmen vs street fighter?
as far as game play? No real difference really. Leafs can be adjusted to be more sensitive.
one of my questions was answered the other one was about how you light these buttons up... i must be asking an obvious question or something
Here's the NovaGem 2™ preview I promised:(http://www.groovygamegear.com/Store_Images/NovaGem_Prev.jpg)
These are the perfect solution for leafs in a wood control panel.
one of my questions was answered the other one was about how you light these buttons up... i must be asking an obvious question or something
I don't know it either, but I think you can find out by reading in the wiki:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Lighting (http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Lighting)
Here's the NovaGem 2™ preview I promised:(http://www.groovygamegear.com/Store_Images/NovaGem_Prev.jpg)
They are photographed on a light table of sorts to show the colors better. Obviously things get much brighter with NovaGem LED units inside 8).
RandyT
That bottom looks like it would come off easy. I'm gonna have to order some and beat the hell out of them to test this theory...
By the way, does anyone know how long it takes for GGG.com to ship out orders? Placed order on Monday and it still says processing.
That bottom looks like it would come off easy. I'm gonna have to order some and beat the hell out of them to test this theory...
Please let me know assuming you have a black light around somewhere. Based on the Satan's Hollow handle pics on your site, I BET YOU DO! ;D
Also are you going to sell those leaf switches separately? I probably need a few dozen if they are same size as the 20 - 30 year old ones were.
1) The leafs are tilted/angled towards the button. Won't this result in more resistance from the leaf ? (ie. more force (compared to a horizontal regular leaf-switch/button set-up)
2) the used leafs look like they are of the small(er) kind. I've tried similar leafs that fit on a regular micro-switch button (think they came from Ponyboy). They were giving too much resistance IMHO, I think it was due to the smaller size. How about these leafs ?
By the way, does anyone know how long it takes for GGG.com to ship out orders? Placed order on Monday and it still says processing.
We had to get a bunch of RGB-Drives into the pipeline for all of the orders that came in for these. We also had back orders for a few hundred that took precedence over new orders. New orders should start shipping tomorrow.
RandyT
I'm holding out to get these (just for the leafs), but just want to make sure the LED stay put once they are banged thousands of times ?
Hi
I've got some questions about ice push buttons.
My idea is to plug 12 pushbuttons (led RGB, so they can change colour depending on the emulator, I'm borrowing this idea from some picture I've seen).
It's not clear to me how to build the scheme, and, moreover, what to buy!
Coming to the point: I'm trying to combine 12 buttons + trackball ice (colour changing).
Hence, I'm supposed to buy:
- GroovyMicro™ Premium MicroSwitch
with the option:
RGB-Drive w/ 24" 4-conductor cable (+$3.75) (+0.13 lbs)
(including the board with led RGB plus cable).
Then, I should buy also this:
LED-Wiz 32 port USB Lighting and Output Controller
is it true that, if each led RGB needs 3 contacts, then (considering 12 pushbutton + trackball) I need 3x13=39 output, i.e. At least 3 LED Controllers???
Hi
I've got some questions about ice push buttons.
My idea is to plug 12 pushbuttons (led RGB, so they can change colour depending on the emulator, I'm borrowing this idea from some picture I've seen).
It's not clear to me how to build the scheme, and, moreover, what to buy!
Coming to the point: I'm trying to combine 12 buttons + trackball ice (colour changing).
Hence, I'm supposed to buy:
- GroovyMicro™ Premium MicroSwitch
with the option:
RGB-Drive w/ 24" 4-conductor cable (+$3.75) (+0.13 lbs)
(including the board with led RGB plus cable).
Then, I should buy also this:
LED-Wiz 32 port USB Lighting and Output Controller
is it true that, if each led RGB needs 3 contacts, then (considering 12 pushbutton + trackball) I need 3x13=39 output, i.e. At least 3 LED Controllers???
You would only need two LED-Wiz controllers (provides 64 outputs), which would give quite a few left over. Maybe in this situation an LED-Wiz Dev 1 and an LED-Wiz+GP Dev 2 would be a good choice. This would give you 48 ouputs and 16 inputs to do with what you will.
RandyT
Thanks for your clear explanation Randy. I'd probably would like the "no compromise" option. The reason is that f.i. with the Centipede, I only need one button. So the impact on a high price for the leaf switch is much less then when you do a zillion button MAME CP.
RandyT i don't have understood the inputs.. To what they serve those?
And why in the option of the product there is a choise of number of USB device?? ("Use if FIRST or ONLY of this EXACT controller")
Here's the NovaGem 2™ preview I promised:
<gorgeous image removed>
They are photographed on a light table of sorts to show the colors better. Obviously things get much brighter with NovaGem LED units inside 8).
RandyT
And why in the option of the product there is a choise of number of USB device?? ("Use if FIRST or ONLY of this EXACT controller")
Because if you use multiple units, each will need its own device ID.
And why in the option of the product there is a choise of number of USB device?? ("Use if FIRST or ONLY of this EXACT controller")
Because if you use multiple units, each will need its own device ID.
but multiple units for the same object (example two trackball) or r also for various objects? (Example device 1 for trackball, dev 2 for spinner ecc..)
And why in the option of the product there is a choise of number of USB device?? ("Use if FIRST or ONLY of this EXACT controller")
Because if you use multiple units, each will need its own device ID.
but multiple units for the same object (example two trackball) or r also for various objects? (Example device 1 for trackball, dev 2 for spinner ecc..)
Randy
Any idea when orange novagem 2 will be available to buy?
Jury is still out for me whether I want to light my buttons or not. I'm really interested in the flexibility this new button would give trying different switches. It would be nice to have a solid color option as well.
uhm ok, but for the EI button than draft? Days? weeks? Months? :banghead:
Been crazy here lately. The first shipment if EI buttons are gone and we are waiting on the second now. Hopefully it won't be too long.
The NG2 buttons were shown as a preview. This style and one other is being worked on. The NG2's are going to require a small modification to the mold, so that is what is delaying them.
When the floodgates open on these, the delays should be much shorter between production runs.
RandyT
Gah, I knew they would be sold out when I had some money! Is there an ETA for more electric ice 2?
never respond :(
never respond :(
No answer to give. At mercy of fabricator.
never respond :(
No answer to give. At mercy of fabricator.
Has anyone given the True-Leafs a good go? Can we get a review or impressions please?I'll have an impression on them as soon as I receive them...
Cheffo <3's RandyI can never figure out if that's a heart or a butt ... ??? Cheffo sits on Randy?
Cheffo <3's RandyI can never figure out if that's a heart or a butt ... ??? Cheffo sits on Randy?
Exactly a month after ordering; I received my EI2's with the True Leaf switch and RGB LED's today in the mail for my pincab. I was able to get then wired up and lit, but have not had a chance to play using them yet. I'll have more of a review of them as I get to really test them out later.
The only issue that I have with the EI2 buttons is that they feel like there is too much concave on the button. These seem to work great as pinball flippers, but I think they would feel too deep for use on a MAME cab.
First shipment of red NovaGem2's just rolled in the door. And they look nice :)
That's a good sign....now waiting on the other colors.
RandyT
Are they in yet, Are they in yet? ;D
I have a question about how the RGB unit fits with the leaf switches. My assumption is that the RGB board comes out the same side as the leaf extends out yes? I just want to make sure everything will "fit" in my panel as my buttons are space 1.5" from each other.
I have some solid black ones as well, for those just looking for the new styling and switch options, but not lighting.
First shipment of red NovaGem2's just rolled in the door. And they look nice :)
That's a good sign....now waiting on the other colors.
RandyT
Are they in yet, Are they in yet? ;D
Sorry, not yet. More scheduling issues ::) At least the EI version made it through. I have some solid black ones as well, for those just looking for the new styling and switch options, but not lighting.
ohhhh shiny ... my current Nova Matrix isn't bright enough for my cab so I was going to order a second, but maybe I should wait for this ... where did you get that photo?
sweet ... purchased !!
Damnit! Everything is out of stock again. Randy barely answers Emails now on these things.
Are the solid colours still going to be an option or is it all too much of a PITA?
Are the solid colours still going to be an option or is it all too much of a PITA?
The mold has been a PITA. The colors, not so much. There will be solid colors available, but the initial focus is on the lighted buttons. That being said, I have been pursuing at least one special item related to these, which should come about at roughly the same time. So the wait will not be totally in vain. Plus, we are working on a unique twist that I hope will address a number of desires related to this product.
Just a note about the delays. Dealing with bigger companies who view you as a "small fry" can be like "pushing a rope". If my personality was any less tenacious, this project would likely have withered on the vine. We'll get there eventually, as hard to believe as that sounds, based on the delays. I'm not especially pleased with how this has progressed either, as I have literally lost count of the hours, and cash, I have invested in this project at this point. But I think it will be worthwhile in the end. Thanks again to all of you who have been waiting patiently for these to become available.
RandyT
No sir, Thank you for everything you invested in this. You and a few others make this hobby incredible and satisfying.