Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 08:13:24 am
Still $299 around me.
Post by: keilmillerjr on December 01, 2018, 09:32:34 am
Post by: pbj on December 01, 2018, 11:47:47 am
Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 12:13:15 pm
I was happy with them at $300, but at $150, I'm sure I'd buy more. At this stage of the game though, it's more like "why?" I have cabinets sitting around that need to be played more often before I even consider buying/building anything else!
Post by: yotsuya on December 01, 2018, 12:32:42 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 01:41:42 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 01, 2018, 02:39:09 pm
Bought and returned and rebought I bet.
Heh.
Post by: pbj on December 01, 2018, 02:47:08 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 01, 2018, 02:57:02 pm
Post by: Stutz on December 01, 2018, 05:47:04 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on December 01, 2018, 07:27:37 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 08:03:47 pm
Still about $150 more than I'd pay for that junk.
Oh, that's a bummer. I was going to send you one. Guess I'll keep it. ::)
Post by: Zebidee on December 01, 2018, 08:04:24 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 08:28:57 pm
I bought the Galaga edition. Serves my purpose until I save up some cash to build a cabinet
The cool thing is.... that's the game that holds the most nostalgia for many folks. I think the cabinet is good for that. It's a shame Galaxian is the other game. Galaxian is such an odd duck. It's a blast of color and speed compared to space invaders, but it seems that Galaga is where they really hit the sweet spot. Let us know your thoughts of the Galaga cabinet.
I wish A1UP would have put Galaga 88 on there, or something. It's really a 1 game cabinet to me.
For $150 though... I hate to say it because I have a full sized Galaga, and all my other cabinets can play Galaga, but I would probably buy it.
Post by: pbj on December 01, 2018, 08:34:56 pm
I guarantee it.
Post by: Osirus23 on December 01, 2018, 08:47:51 pm
They're on sale because they are cheap rubbish.
I spoke with a relative over Thanksgiving who was excited to get one when they were announced. When he saw how crappy they were in the store he changed his mind and didn't get one.
Post by: leapinlew on December 01, 2018, 09:06:03 pm
2-3 years, this forum is gonna be horny for those 4:3 LCDs.
I guarantee it.
As much as I've enjoyed watching other people get into Arcade'n, the quality on those 17" 4:3 LCD's seems very hit or miss. I'd gamble at that low of a price point knowing that if it didn't work, I would convert it.
I've definitely wasted more than $150 on less.
Post by: pbj on December 01, 2018, 09:22:22 pm
$150 feels right for what you get.
I like these better than those Midway Classic cabinets but they should have shipped with more games.
:dunno
Post by: wp34 on December 01, 2018, 10:02:47 pm
These cabinets are basically a LCD in a box with one of those ~$90 Pandora joystick panels with a multi board.
$150 feels right for what you get.
I like these better than those Midway Classic cabinets but they should have shipped with more games.
:dunno
One of those Midway Classic cabinets went for $325 at the auction here last week. :dizzy: It was HUO I guess. :lol
If these 1UP cabinets get closer to $50 I might buy one just to see how well it can be re-purposed. Something to do anyway.
Post by: yotsuya on December 01, 2018, 10:42:04 pm
These cabinets are basically a LCD in a box with one of those ~$90 Pandora joystick panels with a multi board.
$150 feels right for what you get.
I like these better than those Midway Classic cabinets but they should have shipped with more games.
:dunno
One of those Midway Classic cabinets went for $325 at the auction here last week. :dizzy: It was HUO I guess. :lol
If these 1UP cabinets get closer to $50 I might buy one just to see how well it can be re-purposed. Something to do anyway.
At that price point, you’ve got the shell for a nice gift cab for a kid. So I’d agree there.
Post by: Mike A on December 01, 2018, 10:51:25 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 01, 2018, 10:59:49 pm
It's the right size. Pull out the monitor. Add some porcelain and plumbing. Boom. Arcade themed toilet.
Full-size works better
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Post by: wp34 on December 01, 2018, 11:03:06 pm
It's the right size. Pull out the monitor. Add some porcelain and plumbing. Boom. Arcade themed toilet.
Full-size works better
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That likely passes Code in Wisconsin. ;D
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 01, 2018, 11:10:35 pm
They aren't $250 good, but maybe 50-100 good.
I would like to know where they are getting those pop-in concave buttons at. If these zero delay kits had those in them I might actually pull the trigger. Concave or gtfo.
Post by: Ian on December 01, 2018, 11:39:56 pm
Post by: Zebidee on December 02, 2018, 03:29:35 am
Post by: quarterback on December 02, 2018, 03:52:53 am
Post by: leapinlew on December 02, 2018, 04:16:53 am
Love the way people keep on talking about "pulling the trigger" on these things, and similar phrases, as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
Probably the most fun part of the A1UP launch has been watching the people on their facebook group. There are a fair amount of posts on there that are like the one I attached. There are a fair amount of people who are having quality control issues. There is a good amount of modding going on. Lots of the A1UP users are just catching the classic arcade bug.
Really though, I'm surprised by the number of folks who are just now learning you can play more than 1 game on a machine. I know all of us have been approached by people who wanted to buy our cabinets, but then they were surprised to find out it cost more than 50 bucks. That's true even with these. Some people think they should be $40-$50 and others are think they could've be sold at a higher price.
It seems as if the future for A1UP doesn't look so bright. Stores clearing them out before the Christmas season is over doesn't look good and it's definitely impacting those early adopters who went in at full price.
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 04:51:51 am
They dont tend to convert prices over here so they would still try to shift em at £300 no doubt but they would not sell at that price, £200 maybe but I would only be interested in the £100 mark and then it would be as a project cabaret cabinet.
I like the size and from what I have seen the actual body work is ok so in my mind for £100 it would be worth it for the shell, Then I would probably gut it and stick something else in there with better controls.
Otherwise really not interested.
Post by: big10p on December 02, 2018, 05:09:10 am
I dont think they made it over the pond to us, Never seen one advertised or anything.They are available in the UK at Smyths Toys, Very, and Argos. Maybe others. Smyths seem to be out of stock at the moment though, as I believe they have it at the cheapest price - £300!
They dont tend to convert prices over here so they would still try to shift em at £300 no doubt but they would not sell at that price, £200 maybe but I would only be interested in the £100 mark and then it would be as a project cabaret cabinet.
I like the size and from what I have seen the actual body work is ok so in my mind for £100 it would be worth it for the shell, Then I would probably gut it and stick something else in there with better controls.
Otherwise really not interested.
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 05:11:20 am
I dont think they made it over the pond to us, Never seen one advertised or anything.They are available in the UK at Smyths Toys, Very, and Argos. Maybe others. Smyths seem to be out of stock at the moment though, as I believe they have it at the cheapest price - £300!
They dont tend to convert prices over here so they would still try to shift em at £300 no doubt but they would not sell at that price, £200 maybe but I would only be interested in the £100 mark and then it would be as a project cabaret cabinet.
I like the size and from what I have seen the actual body work is ok so in my mind for £100 it would be worth it for the shell, Then I would probably gut it and stick something else in there with better controls.
Otherwise really not interested.
Ahhh well there you go then, Knew that would just put em up at £300!!
Cant see them selling at that price tbh.
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 05:21:35 am
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Post by: big10p on December 02, 2018, 05:24:16 am
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 05:33:11 am
I nearly fell off my seat when I saw that!!
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 05:35:32 am
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Post by: ark_ader on December 02, 2018, 05:45:50 am
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I would not mind buying 3 more 1ups at $150 which would save me making a rotating control panel.
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 02, 2018, 07:17:08 am
Love the way people keep on talking about "pulling the trigger" on these things, and similar phrases, as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
1. Watch American Pickers so you can understand the terminology.
2. STFU
Post by: Mike A on December 02, 2018, 07:27:09 am
Post by: wp34 on December 02, 2018, 08:33:37 am
Probably the most fun part of the A1UP launch has been watching the people on their facebook group. There are a fair amount of posts on there that are like the one I attached. There are a fair amount of people who are having quality control issues. There is a good amount of modding going on. Lots of the A1UP users are just catching the classic arcade bug.
How's the gameplay? I have a friend on a major budget that wants me to build them a Galaga. My thought is that for $50 even if I only kept the monitor and PCB there would be some value. Not unlike what PBJ was trying with his bartop and the Jakks 5-1.
Post by: leapinlew on December 02, 2018, 10:06:36 am
Probably the most fun part of the A1UP launch has been watching the people on their facebook group. There are a fair amount of posts on there that are like the one I attached. There are a fair amount of people who are having quality control issues. There is a good amount of modding going on. Lots of the A1UP users are just catching the classic arcade bug.
How's the gameplay? I have a friend on a major budget that wants me to build them a Galaga. My thought is that for $50 even if I only kept the monitor and PCB there would be some value. Not unlike what PBJ was trying with his bartop and the Jakks 5-1.
Being a nit-picky arcade enthusiasts, I really like a CRT for Galaga. The rom they are using is fine and at the difficulty it is set at is what you would get in most arcades. I do like having access to fast shoot for casual gameplay, so I miss that. The controls are ok, but I slightly prefer a 2 way leaf joystick and leaf button for the feel. I also think they were pretty stingy with the game selection. Galaxian doesn't hold up well, so to me it's really only a 1 game cabinet.
You'll hear some negative nancies going on about "should've waited" or whatever. To me, that's a boring way to live. It's nice to be excited and as long as the income is disposable, who cares? I know folks who pre-buy limited run craft beers, because that's the only way to ensure you'll get them. Sometimes they get a dud, but that's all part of the hobby for them. Maybe I should tell them to wait till the reviews are in before they consider purchasing, lol.
At this point, I think it's safe to say the reviews are out and there is enough info to make a informed decision. Anyone who bought these originally have a 90 day return window, so anyone could have returned their units if they were unhappy with it by now. There really is no risk. If you buy a used arcade game, you usually don't have that kind of corporate guarantee.
Every hobby can have some risk, and as long as you aren't financially out - then by all means, join in on the fun. Right now I'm looking at the Star Wars repos by Alan-1. I'm probably going to take the risk and "pull the trigger" on one.
Post by: wp34 on December 02, 2018, 10:26:48 am
Being a nit-picky arcade enthusiasts, I really like a CRT for Galaga. The rom they are using is fine and at the difficulty it is set at is what you would get in most arcades. I do like having access to fast shoot for casual gameplay, so I miss that. The controls are ok, but I slightly prefer a 2 way leaf joystick and leaf button for the feel. I also think they were pretty stingy with the game selection. Galaxian doesn't hold up well, so to me it's really only a 1 game cabinet.We are in agreement about the CRT but this wouldn't be for me so the LCD will be fine. For this person I was mainly thinking the PCB and monitor might be good to build around. When I build for someone else I don't like using a PC or something that might require maintenance. :cheers:
We are not however in agreement about Galaxian. The BYOAC contest from earlier this year made me fall in love with that game all over again. I play it more than Galaga now and I have a dedicated Galaga. Galaxian is also another game that looks much better on a CRT.
Post by: leapinlew on December 02, 2018, 10:31:03 am
If I was building, I’d probably go with a 60n1 as much as I hate their interface.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on December 02, 2018, 03:41:02 pm
...as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
It's a good thing Millennials are in short supply around here. You would be criminally charged for grossing them out.
Dont think Argos got the memo!!
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The Pound is a strong.
Post by: Titchgamer on December 02, 2018, 04:33:31 pm
Galaga '88 > Gaplus > Galaga > Galaxian. That said, it's funny how many women who have said Galaga when talking about games or yore....as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
It's a good thing Millennials are in short supply around here. You would be criminally charged for grossing them out.Dont think Argos got the memo!!
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The Pound is a strong.
Yeah thats like 575 USD!!!
Post by: nitrogen_widget on December 02, 2018, 05:48:53 pm
didn't see them.
Wasn't looking either.
Still $300 on the website.
for $150 i'd make the 5 min. drive to see what they look and feel like assembled.
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 02:59:12 am
Love the way people keep on talking about "pulling the trigger" on these things, and similar phrases, as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
1. Watch American Pickers so you can understand the terminology.
2. STFU
1. Doooooooode, I don't watch American Pickers and I'm not about to. Why would I?
My reference comes from stock market investing. To "blow your load" is to spend all your cash on one investment. Easily understandable by most everyone.
2. Only in response to "STFU" - I've never said anything rude to you, ever, and yet here you are with "STFU". I don't care how many decades you've been on here, or how many good things you've done it the past, you are still an "A-(o)"
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 03:10:12 am
...as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
It's a good thing Millennials are in short supply around here. You would be criminally charged for grossing them out.
I'd criminally charge them for wasting my time, which I know is in short supply. Seriously. Bring it on.
Srsly, you shouldn't disparage the lack of millenials, and it isn't true anyway. Their inputs prevent us from becoming a bunch of old chooks squarking about the good old days, or just disappearing altogether. They are here, but their focus is more on console emulation naturally.
If you don't have people like me (and Mike A and buttersoft and paradroid and krick and calamity and many others I've just overlooked but appreciate), coming on here and pointing these things out, then the forum is as good as dead already.
Post by: The 80s Man on December 03, 2018, 11:48:40 am
Post by: ark_ader on December 03, 2018, 12:44:39 pm
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.
Pointless putting a mirror in there.
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 01:01:53 pm
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.
I doubt 99% care about that level of authenticity. They just want to play some bideo gamez, man!!!1!
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 03, 2018, 01:22:53 pm
Love the way people keep on talking about "pulling the trigger" on these things, and similar phrases, as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
1. Watch American Pickers so you can understand the terminology.
2. STFU
1. Doooooooode, I don't watch American Pickers and I'm not about to. Why would I?
My reference comes from stock market investing. To "blow your load" is to spend all your cash on one investment. Easily understandable by most everyone.
2. Only in response to "STFU" - I've never said anything rude to you, ever, and yet here you are with "STFU". I don't care how many decades you've been on here, or how many good things you've done it the past, you are still an "A-(o)"
1. Because it's one of the best shows on television and because the "pull the trigger" saying that you seemed to have issue with came from there.
2. Yes you did, you literally just did. See #1. If I say something crude, believe me, you'll know it because I generally don't hide behind innuendo. I'm a very nice guy. I also just happen to be someone you don't get away with disrespecting.
3. Saw your other response.... we were getting along just fine without you and we'll still be getting along just fine long after you are gone.
My point, along with the other posters point was your comment was gross and uncalled for. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 02:25:49 pm
Love the way people keep on talking about "pulling the trigger" on these things, and similar phrases, as though they are going to blow their load all over it. Come to think of it, that might be the most fun you'll have with it.
1. Watch American Pickers so you can understand the terminology.
2. STFU
1. Doooooooode, I don't watch American Pickers and I'm not about to. Why would I?
My reference comes from stock market investing. To "blow your load" is to spend all your cash on one investment. Easily understandable by most everyone.
2. Only in response to "STFU" - I've never said anything rude to you, ever, and yet here you are with "STFU". I don't care how many decades you've been on here, or how many good things you've done it the past, you are still an "A-(o)"
1. Because it's one of the best shows on television and because the "pull the trigger" saying that you seemed to have issue with came from there.
2. Yes you did, you literally just did. See #1. If I say something crude, believe me, you'll know it because I generally don't hide behind innuendo. I'm a very nice guy. I also just happen to be someone you don't get away with disrespecting.
3. Saw your other response.... we were getting along just fine without you and we'll still be getting along just fine long after you are gone.
My point, along with the other posters point was your comment was gross and uncalled for. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Howard.
Firstly, I was never disrespectful to you and refute your claim otherwise. You can argue otherwise and probably will, but you'll still be wrong about that.
Secondly, I don't think you are a nice guy. I've "known" you online for a very long time and "nice" is not a word I would use. "Bully" is a word I might use. Glad I've gotten that out of the way adn in the open.
Thirdly, I take your comment
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"I also just happen to be someone you don't get away with disrespecting."to be some kind of vague physical threat. Be warned that you might get away with disrespecting me, but try to harm me or my family at your peril as I will defend myself against you or your lackeys without mercy or restraint.
Finally, I realise, now, that I have seen American Pickers, but never knew what it was called. I just thought of it as that pawn-shop show. I very rarely watch TV, and wouldn't choose that show if I did, but I have seen it a few times when visiting a friend that likes it.
Let me tell you clearly, not crudely, and without any innuendo, that when those Pickers talk about wanting to "pull the trigger" on something they are excited about, it sounds exactly like they are saying that they want to buy it, take it home and have sex with it. I'm not trying to be crude, just pointing the issue out.
It also sounds exactly the same way when people say it on this forum about those A1 cabs and other things. Should I get upset about their use of innuendo? No, of course not, but it does make me laugh.
Other analogies might include stock market investments and firing a musket, but the way you all use the phrase it comes across (no pun or innuendo intended) the wrong way.
The fact that they say it on some TV show doesn't make it any less the case. They really should say something else, but too late to change now.
With this in mind, I kindly and humbly suggest/advise/request that you stop using the "pull the trigger" phrase because it does sound ridiculous. I'm trying to help you. Obviously you can do whatever you want, but be aware that someone (if not me then someone else) will be sniggering everytime you say it.
Z.
Post by: opt2not on December 03, 2018, 02:52:03 pm
Keep in mind when interacting with this self proclaimed “nice guy”, if you disagree with him, on even the most benign subject, he considers that an insult. You can’t win with cocksure narcissists. The best thing you can do is ignore his vitriol and let him run out of energy.
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 03:08:31 pm
I like Howard, he’s cool. Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 03:23:48 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on December 03, 2018, 03:26:16 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
Post by: DrakeTungsten on December 03, 2018, 03:37:00 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 03:46:03 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 03:55:06 pm
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Post by: Osirus23 on December 03, 2018, 03:57:17 pm
Post by: DrakeTungsten on December 03, 2018, 04:08:52 pm
Who else sees the pattern as to when yots plays peace-maker and when he helps to stir the pot? It's almost enough to make one doubt the sincerity of his desire for peace. I'll get out of the way now and allow the rest of you to earn your brownie points.
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 04:18:32 pm
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 04:26:45 pm
Deceptive little ---smurfs---. They spend most of their lives as caterpillars which are disgusting and incredibly destructive.
:Rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-hysterically-while-pounding-the-floor-with-my-foot-and-beating-the-wall-with-my-fists :laugh2:
Oh gosh, it was difficult to get back up to the keyboard after that :P
Post by: Mike A on December 03, 2018, 05:33:12 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 05:39:12 pm
Can I be promoted to henchman? Do we get the cool shirts the Penguin's henchmen wore in the old TV series?
Dude, you’re a minion. The uniform is very specific...
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Post by: opt2not on December 03, 2018, 05:40:34 pm
It’s cute you pay so much attention to me. But I’m not accepting applications for any more minions, sorry.Looks like you found yourself a groupie, he does seem to follow you around like a superfan. We should get him a t-shirt, “I love yots!”. What a fan. :lol
Post by: Mike A on December 03, 2018, 05:41:58 pm
Post by: Malenko on December 03, 2018, 05:47:56 pm
Damn. I don't even get to be the minion that has 2 eyes.
As much as I wanted to stay out of this thread, I can't. The minion Mike in Despicable Me does in fact have 2 eyes.
Post by: opt2not on December 03, 2018, 05:49:16 pm
His cry for acceptance is cute to watch. :lol
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 05:51:34 pm
Damn. I don't even get to be the minion that has 2 eyes.
As much as I wanted to stay out of this thread, I can't. The minion Mike in Despicable Me does in fact have 2 eyes.
Everyone knows the minions with just one eye always have more fun.
Post by: leapinlew on December 03, 2018, 06:06:52 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 06:13:00 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss -1.
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 06:21:18 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss -1.
Every good comic needs either a muse or a straight-man/woman. If they don't then they have to create one in the minds of their audience.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone in anyway either <3 <3 <3 XXX
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 06:38:46 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss -1.
Every good comic needs either a muse or a straight-man/woman. If they don't then they have to create one in the minds of their audience.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone in anyway either <3 <3 <3 XXX
:cheers:
Come to ZapCon, I’ll get you a “Yot’s Army” t-shirt.
Post by: pbj on December 03, 2018, 07:09:11 pm
Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 07:33:24 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss -1.
Every good comic needs either a muse or a straight-man/woman. If they don't then they have to create one in the minds of their audience.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone in anyway either <3 <3 <3 XXX
:cheers:
Come to ZapCon, I’ll get you a “Yot’s Army” t-shirt.
@yotsuya I'd really love to, wish I was US based at times like this. But am on opposite side of world (SE Asia) for now and will be busy until mid-year. Going to build a swimming school with arcade cabs! Teaching comes first, games later. Then I'll have to be in the Land of Oz (Australia) for a bit. Busy, but really wish I could be at Zapcon! for the experience! Have many US friends love to to visit too.
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 07:42:43 pm
Let’s talk about butterflies instead.
Butterfly wings are of a sturdier construction than a Arcade 1Up cabinet.
C'mon, that's funny!
So, are Arcade1up threads always going to get locked?
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss -1.
Every good comic needs either a muse or a straight-man/woman. If they don't then they have to create one in the minds of their audience.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone in anyway either <3 <3 <3 XXX
:cheers:
Come to ZapCon, I’ll get you a “Yot’s Army” t-shirt.
@yotsuya I'd really love to, wish I was US based at times like this. But am on opposite side of world (SE Asia) for now and will be busy until mid-year. Going to build a swimming school with arcade cabs! Teaching comes first, games later. Then I'll have to be in the Land of Oz (Australia) for a bit. Busy, but really wish I could be at Zapcon! for the experience! Have many US friends love to to visit too.
I’ll give your shirt to Ond, you can get it from him in Melbourne. ;)
:cheers:
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 07:43:15 pm
Galaga down to $199 in my area now.....
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Post by: Zebidee on December 03, 2018, 08:11:24 pm
Galaga down to $199 in my area now.....
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Ahhh, you invoked S'tillrt, one of T'' G'reats.
Please send the T-shirt to me in Thailand, I'll PM the address (Not really worried about lackeys, I know everyone near me and have various alarm/trap systems optimised to detect suspicious persons, just that you never know for sure... ) :D
Post by: yotsuya on December 03, 2018, 08:45:54 pm
Galaga down to $199 in my area now.....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181204/f7a64774316b843f91423216a2b34981.gif)
Ahhh, you invoked S'tillrt, one of T'' G'reats.
Please send the T-shirt to me in Thailand, I'll PM the address (Not really worried about lackeys, I know everyone near me and have various alarm/trap systems optimised to detect suspicious persons, just that you never know for sure... ) :D
I tell you what, if we do T-shirts, I will send you one wherever you are living around that time. Scouts honor.
Post by: rlemmon on December 04, 2018, 05:15:27 am
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.the issue with that is that there are routed grooves that hold the monitor in place along with plastic screw brackets. I guess if you really wanted to you could fill those grooves with bondo and paint them. Not a bad idea to inset the monitor actually.
Post by: Zebidee on December 04, 2018, 07:21:17 am
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.the issue with that is that there are routed grooves that hold the monitor in place along with plastic screw brackets. I guess if you really wanted to you could fill those grooves with bondo and paint them. Not a bad idea to inset the monitor actually.
Great idea - build your own arcade controls! We should setup a forum for it. But wait....
I need to order some butterfly wings and whiteboard markers (they rub off) so I can make it properly.
Post by: DrakeTungsten on December 04, 2018, 07:27:25 am
Stick with those fantasies that give your life meaning. While I'm sure he wishes he could chase me away as easily as he can chase Howard away, if I was half as obsessed with him as he is with me ("minions!" I struck the nerve again. We'll be hearing about that for a while, won't we, yots?), my post count would be ten times higher. But that wasn't really your point, was it? Any other childish BS would have served just as well. You earned your pat on the head. I hear yots calling for his slippers. You better go.It’s cute you pay so much attention to me. But I’m not accepting applications for any more minions, sorry.Looks like you found yourself a groupie, he does seem to follow you around like a superfan. We should get him a t-shirt, “I love yots!”. What a fan. :lol
Post by: Zebidee on December 04, 2018, 08:29:39 am
I tell you what, if we do T-shirts, I will send you one wherever you are living around that time. Scouts honor.
Better not hold my breath then, may as well :lol while I wait.
Post by: yotsuya on December 04, 2018, 08:47:24 am
I tell you what, if we do T-shirts, I will send you one wherever you are living around that time. Scouts honor.
Better not hold my breath then, may as well :lol while I wait.
Heh!
How long are you going to be in Thailand? ZapCon isn’t until early next May.
Post by: pbj on December 04, 2018, 10:22:00 am
Post by: chrisdfw on December 04, 2018, 01:27:08 pm
When I look online it shows them all at full price.
Do you have to specify the right store before searching?
Post by: Malenko on December 04, 2018, 02:15:10 pm
Post by: pbj on December 04, 2018, 02:15:30 pm
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=595505982 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=595505982)
SF2
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=994342377 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=994342377)
Rampage:
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=114274755 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=114274755)
Pacman
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=792203275 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=792203275)
You can also check within the WalMart app... browse the inventory in your store and it'll show the store prices.
:cheers:
Post by: pbj on December 04, 2018, 02:20:20 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on December 04, 2018, 04:05:42 pm
Post by: nitrogen_widget on December 04, 2018, 07:22:40 pm
Galaga
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=595505982 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=595505982)
SF2
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=994342377 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=994342377)
Rampage:
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=114274755 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=114274755)
Pacman
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=792203275 (https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=792203275)
You can also check within the WalMart app... browse the inventory in your store and it'll show the store prices.
:cheers:
still $299.
The market in Western NY for these must be high.
Post by: Zebidee on December 04, 2018, 10:04:07 pm
How long are you going to be in Thailand? ZapCon isn’t until early next May.
I'll be in Thailand until maybe April, then to Australia for a month or so to be with family and maybe spend some time at the beach (I know a few good body surfing spots). Then, before it gets too cold, back to Thailand where I've got stuff I need to look after including arcade projects and maybe some new swim students to train.
Post by: yotsuya on December 04, 2018, 10:47:13 pm
How long are you going to be in Thailand? ZapCon isn’t until early next May.
I'll be in Thailand until maybe April, then to Australia for a month or so to be with family and maybe spend some time at the beach (I know a few good body surfing spots). Then, before it gets too cold, back to Thailand where I've got stuff I need to look after including arcade projects and maybe some new swim students to train.
Cool, we’ll touch base around the time of the show
Post by: Nephasth on December 05, 2018, 01:08:50 am
Post by: Mr. Peabody on December 05, 2018, 04:25:14 pm
Post by: DGP on December 05, 2018, 04:31:49 pm
Maybe some stores are just selling their overstock versus an all out clearance (?). :dunno
I have to admit that @ $75 each I would consider buying them as Xmas gifts. :-[
Post by: pbj on December 05, 2018, 05:01:46 pm
Yet.
Post by: quarterback on December 05, 2018, 06:14:16 pm
Post by: quarterback on December 05, 2018, 06:20:43 pm
Streetfighter is $199 at 4308 E Grand Ave
Laramie WY 82070
Post by: leapinlew on December 05, 2018, 08:33:36 pm
$200 is at a price point, where I'd snag a couple for projects. Why? Hell if I know what I'm going to do with them. Something though!
Post by: smass on December 05, 2018, 10:49:42 pm
The Walmart in Bennington, Vermont has all the models for $149. I skipped Asteroids, I really like the cabinet art, but I have custom built horizontal mame cabinet already so I couldn't justify buying it. They have about three dozen left in stock of various models. I live in Troy, NY, so it was a 50 mile round trip to get them. :)
At $149 each, I think they are a steal. Especially after spending about $50 modding them to full mame goodness. LCD HDMI adapter board is $30, audio amp to connect computer to the speaker is $10, and zero delay encoder another $10 or so. I had an extra zippy joystick in my parts bin, and the computer is an old Athlon machine that I got for free. Here is a video of my modded Galaga running:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU)
Post by: DGP on December 06, 2018, 12:28:41 am
I got Galaga, Pac-man, and Street Fighter for $149 each. I will keep Galaga and Pac-man and give Street Fighter to my brother for Christmas. I already modded the Galaga cab with a computer and a new 4-way joystick. Its running CoinOPS Forgotten Worlds with a custom list of 4-way vertical games. I am going to do the same to Pac-man and leave it with a 4-way joystick, but change the Galaga to 8-way Vertical games. Personally, I like the size. They fit nicely in my computer room and I can swing my gaming chair over when I want to play some arcade games. They are a perfect height to play sitting in my computer chair.
The Walmart in Bennington, Vermont has all the models for $149. I skipped Asteroids, I really like the cabinet art, but I have custom built horizontal mame cabinet already so I couldn't justify buying it. They have about three dozen left in stock of various models. I live in Troy, NY, so it was a 50 mile round trip to get them. :)
At $149 each, I think they are a steal. Especially after spending about $50 modding them to full mame goodness. LCD HDMI adapter board is $30, audio amp to connect computer to the speaker is $10, and zero delay encoder another $10 or so. I had an extra zippy joystick in my parts bin, and the computer is an old Athlon machine that I got for free. Here is a video of my modded Galaga running:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU)
You got them at $150 each almost 3 weeks ago (based upon the date of your video)?
Which LCD HDMI adapter board/set did you order (link)?
Do the current units in the wild have the clear control panel overlay in the box?
Post by: ark_ader on December 06, 2018, 06:41:40 am
Post by: smass on December 06, 2018, 07:31:58 am
You got them at $150 each almost 3 weeks ago (based upon the date of your video)?
Which LCD HDMI adapter board/set did you order (link)?
Do the current units in the wild have the clear control panel overlay in the box?
I received my preorder Galaga 3 weeks ago and that is the one in the video. I purchased another Galaga plus the Pacman and Street Fighter yesterday. I am returning the preorder for a refund (since I paid the full $299 for it). Walmart allows refunds until early February on the preoders.
I used this lcd adapter (works great and works with the ac adapter that comes with the arcade1up. Plug and play): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X9NJ2NR/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X9NJ2NR/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I haven't cracked open the new ones yet, I am assuming they don't have the overlay. But all you have to do is send an email with a copy of your receipt to arcade1up customer service and they mail you out an overlay no questions asked.
Post by: smass on December 06, 2018, 07:35:47 am
What can I do with the original game control box. Should I just toss it on the garbage? Is it worth anything?
Good question. I will end up with three of them. I will hold on to them in my parts bin, possibly they will have some use for someone in the future...maybe when these machines become sought after collectibles you will want to restore them to original? >:D (sarcasm intended)
Post by: JDFan on December 06, 2018, 09:40:00 am
What can I do with the original game control box. Should I just toss it on the garbage? Is it worth anything?
Good question. I will end up with three of them. I will hold on to them in my parts bin, possibly they will have some use for someone in the future...maybe when these machines become sought after collectibles you will want to restore them to original? >:D (sarcasm intended)
Figure they use 5V power and low amperage so might make a decent portable battery powered game with the right monitor setup (LVDS).
Post by: pbj on December 06, 2018, 10:33:49 am
I'm waiting for $99....
Post by: smass on December 06, 2018, 01:02:45 pm
I keep hoping someone figures out a way to flash a few more games onto them....
I'm waiting for $99....
Yes that would be cool and probably will happen eventually, right now everyone is just adding raspberry pi's or computers. Its also another reason to hold on to the original pcb. If I could load 20 games or so I would put the original pcb back in there.
Post by: Zebidee on December 06, 2018, 07:58:25 pm
Welcome to the mosh pit :applaud:
Post by: JDFan on December 06, 2018, 08:29:23 pm
Post by: smass on December 07, 2018, 08:49:26 am
Asteroids is $199 online - must be the slowest selling unit ! Wonder if you order it online for $199 if they'd let you swap it for a different one when you went to pick it up since they are still showing $299 in store ? :dunno
I wonder how much these things cost to ship? I am considering another trip up to Bennington to pick up a few more for some friends. I could buy one for a forum member and then ship it. These things are $10 with sales tax, if I could ship for $40 or less they would be $200 or less shipped...
Post by: Malenko on December 08, 2018, 05:38:49 pm
I keep hoping someone figures out a way to flash a few more games onto them....
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/)
Post by: Haze on December 08, 2018, 05:42:05 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/)
It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.
So these things aren't even legal.
If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards. This was done, in part, so manufacturers like this COULD use MAME as a legal option, but even with that on the table they've gone the lazy / cheap route and produced a product that legally they can't even sell by picking a build before from before the work we put in to change the license. So yeah, even when we've done the majority of the work for people like this, at our own expense, they still ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on us.
If they're not bothering to properly license MAME (terms are clear, team is very easy to contact, basic requirement is simple - 0.172 or above for a commercial product + provide source on request) it does make you wonder if the rest was properly licensed too.
Post by: pbj on December 08, 2018, 06:11:25 pm
:lol
Post by: Grasshopper on December 08, 2018, 06:13:02 pm
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/)
It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.
So these things aren't even legal.
If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards.
Well to be fair to the Arcade1up guys, it doesn't actually say any of that on the MAME website:
Quote
MAME
Copyright (C) 1997-2018 MAMEDev and contributors
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license (https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license)
The above text implies that all versions of MAME from 1997 to 2018 are now released under GPL v2, or (at your option) any later version.
Also, what you're saying doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Why on earth would the MAME devs allow current versions of MAME to be used for commercial purposes, but restrict the usage of earlier (and supposedly inferior) versions?
Post by: Haze on December 08, 2018, 06:51:54 pm
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/)
It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.
So these things aren't even legal.
If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards.
Well to be fair to the Arcade1up guys, it doesn't actually say any of that on the MAME website:QuoteMAME
Copyright (C) 1997-2018 MAMEDev and contributors
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license (https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license)
The above text implies that all versions of MAME from 1997 to 2018 are now released under GPL v2, or (at your option) any later version.
Also, what you're saying doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Why on earth would the MAME devs allow current versions of MAME to be used for commercial purposes, but restrict the usage of earlier (and supposedly inferior) versions?
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
As for why, it's simply a legal thing, we went through the process of getting permission from everybody who had code in 0.172 and requested permission to change that license to GPL / BSD (their choice) in future versions. It can't retroactively be changed without going through that process for every single version, so wasn't. As a result, 0.172 and above have a nice clean usable license with very few restrictions, versions below that do not and are still bound by things like the no commercial use clause.
The process of relicensing also involved dropping any code from people who didn't want their code relicensed, or couldn't be contacted (or in some cases, were deceased, and permission couldn't be obtained from the estate) and rewriting it (which took a year in some cases) Any code that couldn't be traced back had to go because it was impossible to relicense it.
It's a well acknowledged process that a number of large projects have had to go through in their lifespan. We can't legally offer the older versions under GPL / BSD because we don't have permission to, we can offer versions 0.172 and above under the GPL, because we do.
The cleanup and standardization of the license was done for good reason, to make situations like this easier to handle going forward, and was a significant undertaking that took the best part of a year to track everybody down etc. It is up to the companies making use of MAME to check that the versions they're using are based off a version that has a compatible license, and that nobody is misrepresenting that license in any way if they didn't get it from an official source etc. That's what legal / licensing departments are for. In this case they either haven't done their homework, or are intentionally violating the license and hoped they wouldn't be found out.
From the MAME side, the whole relicensing thing was done with proper legal advisors etc. because we wanted to make sure, going forward, MAME was a piece of software people could actually make use of.
I've read all sorts of conspiracy theories about how we've only changed the license on the newer versions because we want to force people to use them etc. but the real reason is simple, that's how the law works and there's nothing we can do about that.
Not sure what doesn't make sense to you either, MAME isn't something we're selling, it's our contribution to society, makes much more sense if they can use the versions with fewer bugs than base products around old versions that are never going to be fixed.
Post by: Grasshopper on December 08, 2018, 08:00:46 pm
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.
If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.
* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
Post by: Haze on December 08, 2018, 08:12:22 pm
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.
If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.
* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.
Always check the license that's provided with the software. At worst you could say the text is 'incorrect' but really, it's 100% industry standard to list details for whatever the current offering is. While these things do change over time. the expectation is always that you'll be using the current version, so the information provided primarily relates to that as it's most relevant in 99% of cases. The main pages on pretty much every website you'll find have details that relate to the current versions only.
Older versions are offered for archival purposes. You're still bound by the licenses included with whatever you download. This is the type of thing anybody releasing a product should be aware of, and should have a legal team ratify.
Post by: Malenko on December 08, 2018, 09:51:07 pm
You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.
So sue them or STFU about it.
Post by: pbj on December 08, 2018, 10:17:02 pm
So sue them or STFU about it.
:laugh2:
What's the fun in that?
Post by: ark_ader on December 09, 2018, 12:10:08 am
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.
If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.
* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.
Always check the license that's provided with the software. At worst you could say the text is 'incorrect' but really, it's 100% industry standard to list details for whatever the current offering is. While these things do change over time. the expectation is always that you'll be using the current version, so the information provided primarily relates to that as it's most relevant in 99% of cases. The main pages on pretty much every website you'll find have details that relate to the current versions only.
Older versions are offered for archival purposes. You're still bound by the licenses included with whatever you download. This is the type of thing anybody releasing a product should be aware of, and should have a legal team ratify.
You didn't contact every contributor. Several of my chums contributed to Mame and they were not contacted. It is hard to invoke any right of use when you were reverse engineering and breaking copy protections. You did get permission from the copyright holders to do that right? :lol
We know you didn't. So it is fair use, from the MAME perspective that any LICENSED entity is able to use your software for commercial uses. It goes with the territory.
Heck I can fork mame change it, name it differently and sell it, and the mamedevs could not do crap about it. I like to see you guys sue Arcade1up. That will put the cat among the pigeons. Considering how Nintendoh has been operating, who is to say that mame is next on their list? Statute of limitations is 5 years for copyright infringement. (https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1860-copyright-infringement-statute-limitations) That gets extended on every code revision that mame/mess generates.
What is the penalty for infringing copyrights? Up to three years in a federal prison and $250,000 for each occurrence. :laugh2:
Who owns mame again? :laugh2:
Post by: Haze on December 09, 2018, 06:20:07 am
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.
If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.
* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.
Always check the license that's provided with the software. At worst you could say the text is 'incorrect' but really, it's 100% industry standard to list details for whatever the current offering is. While these things do change over time. the expectation is always that you'll be using the current version, so the information provided primarily relates to that as it's most relevant in 99% of cases. The main pages on pretty much every website you'll find have details that relate to the current versions only.
Older versions are offered for archival purposes. You're still bound by the licenses included with whatever you download. This is the type of thing anybody releasing a product should be aware of, and should have a legal team ratify.
You didn't contact every contributor. Several of my chums contributed to Mame and they were not contacted.
If there is code of theirs in the project and they weren't contacted then we need to know. We put *every* contributor on a list, crossed them off one-by-one as we got permission, and added the copyright holder information to the source. Anybody who didn't respond had their code removed. I'm calling bull on your claim.
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It is hard to invoke any right of use when you were reverse engineering and breaking copy protections. You did get permission from the copyright holders to do that right? :lol
Again, that isn't how the law works. We could easily sue for the same amount Nintendo just won from the ROM sites if we wanted. MAME itself is software we wrote and we are the copyright holder on, what it does is irrelevant to this discussion. I can play MP3s of pirated music on Windows Media Player, should Microsoft be sued?
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We know you didn't. So it is fair use, from the MAME perspective that any LICENSED entity is able to use your software for commercial uses. It goes with the territory.
Again, not how the law works. Does somebody selling a game that runs on Windows have full permission to just bundle an entire copy of Windows on the disk because their software needs it. Of course not.
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Heck I can fork mame change it, name it differently and sell it, and the mamedevs could not do crap about it. I like to see you guys sue Arcade1up. That will put the cat among the pigeons. Considering how Nintendoh has been operating, who is to say that mame is next on their list? Statute of limitations is 5 years for copyright infringement. (https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1860-copyright-infringement-statute-limitations) That gets extended on every code revision that mame/mess generates.
What is the penalty for infringing copyrights? Up to three years in a federal prison and $250,000 for each occurrence. :laugh2:
Who owns mame again? :laugh2:
yep... you're back to your usual trolling, get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
Post by: Haze on December 09, 2018, 07:04:24 am
The irony is of course, the community slammed Sony for using a GPL licensed emulator in that case, even if they were doing everything by the book (that's exactly why GPL exists) while instead here, in cases where the manufacturers are ignoring the licenses they're getting praise for it.
I'd love to see a proper 100% legitimate product with licensed ROMs built with MAME, we went through an entire process or relicensing our own code so that could happen, but even with that, the people making this type of thing seem to think they have a god given right to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on the people who have spent 20 years developing the emulator just so they can cheap out on some hardware costs / porting costs or whatever.
The way some of the community then defends them for this is shocking. No matter what *we* do to try and help, and believe me, this relicensing was a massive undertaking specifically to benefit cases like this, that we were in no way obliged to do, we're always painted as in the wrong, told we have no rights, blah blah blah. People wonder why the team distances itself more and more from arcade stuff? At least the future of the project is bright.
I'm sure eventually these manufacturers will start using the versions that they can license, but probably more by chance than because they have any integrity.
Most of the time (not specific to this case, but for a good number in the past) even when the question is asked about licensing of MAME the companies selling this type of thing will either lie, or delete / block the user asking the question from the social media platform it was asked on (especially if the lie is pointed out) so yeah, it just seems like an entirely toxic scene.
Post by: Malenko on December 09, 2018, 09:23:22 am
Either defend your EULA against the people using it, or the point is moot. Complaining about it here and on Reddit doesn't change anything. I'm sorry if you find this "toxic" , I see it more as common sense.
Post by: keilmillerjr on December 09, 2018, 09:30:54 am
Or we could just keep the used originals. Shiat, at least I can play them on any tv. Discs can be bought plentiful and cheap at any used video game shop.
Post by: opt2not on December 09, 2018, 11:50:21 am
Post by: ark_ader on December 09, 2018, 01:28:16 pm
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution. The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.
I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.
If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.
* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.
Always check the license that's provided with the software. At worst you could say the text is 'incorrect' but really, it's 100% industry standard to list details for whatever the current offering is. While these things do change over time. the expectation is always that you'll be using the current version, so the information provided primarily relates to that as it's most relevant in 99% of cases. The main pages on pretty much every website you'll find have details that relate to the current versions only.
Older versions are offered for archival purposes. You're still bound by the licenses included with whatever you download. This is the type of thing anybody releasing a product should be aware of, and should have a legal team ratify.
You didn't contact every contributor. Several of my chums contributed to Mame and they were not contacted.
If there is code of theirs in the project and they weren't contacted then we need to know. We put *every* contributor on a list, crossed them off one-by-one as we got permission, and added the copyright holder information to the source. Anybody who didn't respond had their code removed. I'm calling bull on your claim.QuoteIt is hard to invoke any right of use when you were reverse engineering and breaking copy protections. You did get permission from the copyright holders to do that right? :lol
Again, that isn't how the law works. We could easily sue for the same amount Nintendo just won from the ROM sites if we wanted. MAME itself is software we wrote and we are the copyright holder on, what it does is irrelevant to this discussion. I can play MP3s of pirated music on Windows Media Player, should Microsoft be sued?QuoteWe know you didn't. So it is fair use, from the MAME perspective that any LICENSED entity is able to use your software for commercial uses. It goes with the territory.
Again, not how the law works. Does somebody selling a game that runs on Windows have full permission to just bundle an entire copy of Windows on the disk because their software needs it. Of course not.QuoteHeck I can fork mame change it, name it differently and sell it, and the mamedevs could not do crap about it. I like to see you guys sue Arcade1up. That will put the cat among the pigeons. Considering how Nintendoh has been operating, who is to say that mame is next on their list? Statute of limitations is 5 years for copyright infringement. (https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1860-copyright-infringement-statute-limitations) That gets extended on every code revision that mame/mess generates.
What is the penalty for infringing copyrights? Up to three years in a federal prison and $250,000 for each occurrence. :laugh2:
Who owns mame again? :laugh2:
yep... you're back to your usual trolling, get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
I read Haze's post and had time to have a good time to reflect on his reply. I also did some research and decided to respond to his post with as much humility and respect as I could muster on Sunday morning (before coffee), as his comments are "from the hip".
We first must understand where Haze is coming from. If it wasn't for Haze MAME would not be where it is now. I will even go so far to rename MAME as HAZE instead. The majority of the mamedevs are in no way even close to Haze, in regards to technical competency. He will not admit it, but they guy is a genius. Aaron is in his shadow. We owe a lot to Haze. When we fire up MAME and play some nostalgia, we owe our gratitude to Haze. He did all the heavy lifting better than what Aaron did, in many ways. What did he get in return? Disrespect from the very same team he led and removed as project coordinator. If anyone deserves a medal from the gaming community, it would be him. Mame is his baby and I appreciate him for is continued work on the project. :notworthy:
These replies are my own based on data available on the internet, and when I say YOU it means MAME (apologies in advance) and I am drinking my hazelnut coffee now:
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If there is code of theirs in the project and they weren't contacted then we need to know. We put *every* contributor on a list, crossed them off one-by-one as we got permission, and added the copyright holder information to the source. Anybody who didn't respond had their code removed. I'm calling bull on your claim.
No you didn't, call it as you see fit. FYI: They don't really care, but it would be nice to see the effort and the recognition.
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Again, that isn't how the law works. We could easily sue for the same amount Nintendo just won from the ROM sites if we wanted. MAME itself is software we wrote and we are the copyright holder on, what it does is irrelevant to this discussion. I can play MP3s of pirated music on Windows Media Player, should Microsoft be sued?
You could if you wanted to open a shipping container full of worms. You don't own the software to drive a Nintendo ROM. Nintendo does. You could argue MAME as an library archive or sorts, luckily somewhat covered under the DMCA at a stretch. You can make your own MP3 player as it is in the public domain, but you cannot use that argument. The project bought mainboards off ebay and then dumped the roms, then sold the boards on to buy more. Mamedevs got personal contributions to buy more boards off ebay to dump them. When you sold the dumped boards you did not own the roms MAME dumped, and that oddly, somehow, got leaked to the internet. :lol So should MAME be sued for being able to play pirated roms? No. MAME owns all the boards it bought and stored them in a repository, right? Well you would need to if you wanted to not get sued by a copyright holder, such as Nintendoh.
Also if a ROM (available on a rom site) was somehow linked to a board that was bought by MAME, then sold on, and some legal issue came up.. ::)
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Again, not how the law works. Does somebody selling a game that runs on Windows have full permission to just bundle an entire copy of Windows on the disk because their software needs it. Of course not.
No the software company or entity submits their software (driver) to M$, they vet it and it gets added or rejected. MAME already took the driver from the software company or entity and added it to their software without permission. So we can simply say mainboards, ROMS, PROMS, HDD and cdroms, floppy discs are media provided by a software company or entity. Doesn't look good, does it? ::)
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yep... you're back to your usual trolling, get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
When you look at it, from the point of a good intention. Regardless if it is to preserve the arcade history, or to be a resource where original hardware owners can seek help repairing their arcade machine, some responsibility is needed to justify the actions of a project. Especially when the comment "playing the games is a good side effect" is made, then the focus shifts from archive to media player. I would say that was a good intention. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions".
The only single focus of the project is to document, and create software to test and provide more documentation of technical hardware. The logistics to house such a collection of mainboards is huge, and there is the issue of private owners dumping ROMS for the project, and seeking help and assistance from the makers of these boards, the list goes on and on.
In its heyday Arcade manufacturers were keen to keep their software from being copied and sold on bootleg boards, due to the cost of the IP (Intellectual Property) to create such a game. Classic case was Donkey Kong. It was a huge hit, and it sold thousands of cabinets. We also saw Crazy Kong, and as kids played it just the same and added quarters for the operators. Nintendoh didn't see any of that revenue. Roll on today, Crazy Kong is on MAME. Great we can play it again, minus the quarter. That would be OK, but we can play all of Nintendoh games now too, like Punchout! and their Vs editions without any monetary consideration to Nintendoh. If you (Ikegami Tsushinki) wrote Donkey Kong and lived on the royalties from the use of that IP. Would you not be a little bit upset for all that lost revenue? Maybe not.
Why would I buy a $299 game console to play Donkey Kong, when I can play it free on a donated PC? If I wanted to play Nintendoh's classics I would have to pay $99 for the NES, or $199 for the SNES, or $199 for the N64 or $199 for a Wii or $299 for a Wii U, etc. Same would be for ports. None of that mame play (revenue) goes back to Nintendoh. Bundling Donkey Kong with MAME is being done more than once since the last 15 years or so. Anyone hazard a guess on how much money that was intended for Nintendoh if those ROMS and it's player was never created? Maybe $100. How much is Donkey Kong IP worth (https://moneyinc.com/how-much-is-the-entire-donkey-kong-franchise-worth/) today? 10 Billion. Wow.
I wonder how much Sonic is worth? (https://moneyinc.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-franchise/)
I could go on, but it is not toxic to discuss this subject or its ramifications. It is not toxic to display MAME as a medium to play lost arcade games, and bundle it up with roms, to be sold as X in 1 solutions sold on Amazon and eBay. Who cares right? Is MAME suing Amazon or some Chinese outfit? Nope. It must be beguiling to have your work being used for profit by so many. That is some interesting Karma.
As for trolling. Have you checked your calendar Haze? Isn't it time to troll the mamedevs, and spectacularly voice your impression of impending doom, to the masses on your website? Are you leaving the project this year? Don't you always? You like my posts Haze, and I am sure you have me on some RSS feed as you like the attention. You are a superstar Haze, milk it for all its worth! :cheers:
Now if you want some good PR - get cracking on that Laseractive Emulator!
Post by: leapinlew on December 09, 2018, 01:34:47 pm
I checked and all my local walmarts are soldiering on at the $299 price point.
Post by: ark_ader on December 09, 2018, 01:53:37 pm
Would like to branch off the Mame shenanigans and get this thread back on track. I am interested in how the A1UP's have utilized Mame, but don't want this thread to be taken out because of it.
I checked and all my local walmarts are soldiering on at the $299 price point.
You have to wait until January sales. I see the cabinets being sold for $199. I got mine as they were all sold up in a matter of hours. I still like mine (even though I shagged up the CP) and got it working with the Pi Mod. I do not think there is the same interest in buying high priced novelty goods. The sting of 2009 is still felt, and I would not want to buy a high priced item, only to see the store close due to bankruptcy.
The controls is what is getting the bad reviews. Could Arcade1Up just spent 25c for better hardware?
I see interest in the individuals wanting an arcade in their apartment without getting a 300lb arcade cabinet up 3 flights of stairs. Especially in New York or Chicago.
They need to add that riser for free too. That was a rip for $35.00.
Post by: opt2not on December 09, 2018, 02:58:35 pm
We first must understand where Haze is coming from. If it wasn't for Haze MAME would not be where it is now. I will even go so far to rename MAME as HAZE instead. The majority of the mamedevs are in no way even close to Haze, in regards to technical competency. He will not admit it, but they guy is a genius. Aaron is in his shadow. We owe a lot to Haze. When we fire up MAME and play some nostalgia, we owe our gratitude to Haze. He did all the heavy lifting better than what Aaron did, in many ways. What did he get in return? Disrespect from the very same team he led and removed as project coordinator. If anyone deserves a medal from the gaming community, it would be him. Mame is his baby and I appreciate him for is continued work on the project. :notworthy:I ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- you not, I had to look at who was posting this 3 times while reading this paragraph. Ark praising Haze??
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c2548f05e03b6c21286ce811d28f06b101435397b2e4d8f088d5bfb6e83ee1e.jpg)
Post by: Mr. Peabody on December 09, 2018, 03:39:59 pm
If ark or his pals haven't looked into the code to see theirs removed, they can say nothing.
MAME is not even in assembly, so no frijoles.
@Zebidee: -tips hat-
Post by: ark_ader on December 09, 2018, 03:57:20 pm
We first must understand where Haze is coming from. If it wasn't for Haze MAME would not be where it is now. I will even go so far to rename MAME as HAZE instead. The majority of the mamedevs are in no way even close to Haze, in regards to technical competency. He will not admit it, but they guy is a genius. Aaron is in his shadow. We owe a lot to Haze. When we fire up MAME and play some nostalgia, we owe our gratitude to Haze. He did all the heavy lifting better than what Aaron did, in many ways. What did he get in return? Disrespect from the very same team he led and removed as project coordinator. If anyone deserves a medal from the gaming community, it would be him. Mame is his baby and I appreciate him for is continued work on the project. :notworthy:I ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- you not, I had to look at who was posting this 3 times while reading this paragraph. Ark praising Haze??
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c2548f05e03b6c21286ce811d28f06b101435397b2e4d8f088d5bfb6e83ee1e.jpg)
Totally serious. It doesn't mean I agree of his politics or behaviors, but the only other person who fits that programming excellence and contribution is David Alan Spicer.
Other heavy lifters in the world of arcade emulation is David Foley and part-timer Aaron Giles of Lucas Arts Fame.
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If ark or his pals haven't looked into the code to see theirs removed, they can say nothing.
Haze said Mamedevs contacted everyone. IF you knew anything about software development, you would comment accordingly and correctly. :cheers:
Post by: Osirus23 on December 09, 2018, 04:08:18 pm
Post by: ark_ader on December 09, 2018, 04:18:16 pm
The MAME license was changed in later versions to be permissive to this sort of thing. Was there some super special sauce in the old versions that was taken out that mamedev doesn't want covered by the newer, more permissive license? If not, why would they give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- now? The license was changed to allow this sort of use, technically the old version is still bound by the old license, but given the later change I have a hard time seeing anyone getting buttmad over it now, unless they are just looking for an excuse to stir up ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.
I would agree but I fear it is pride of authorship that is in play or annual resentment. Flip a coin.
Post by: jonathan.rowe.75 on December 09, 2018, 04:28:34 pm
At $150 or less I’d pick up Pac-Man, Galaga, and Street Fighter cabinets for the sole purpose of having a mini arcade in the mancave.
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Post by: yotsuya on December 09, 2018, 04:41:11 pm
At $150 or less I’d pick up Pac-Man, Galaga, and Street Fighter cabinets for the sole purpose of having a mini arcade in the mancave.
This here is exactly why these cabinets exist.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on December 09, 2018, 05:00:19 pm
Haze said Mamedevs contacted everyone. IF you knew anything about software development, you would comment accordingly and correctly. :cheers:
You ignore what you don't care for, then act like you didn't.
Post by: opt2not on December 09, 2018, 05:37:03 pm
These comments were great until it turned into Facebook armchair fodder.Thank you for your insights and welcome to the forum. Stick around and join the conversations, you’ll notice the Internet has familiar themes throughout, not specific to certain social media sites.
Post by: jonathan.rowe.75 on December 09, 2018, 05:47:25 pm
Wow! Your reply was inspiring and insignificant at the same time!At $150 or less I’d pick up Pac-Man, Galaga, and Street Fighter cabinets for the sole purpose of having a mini arcade in the mancave.
This here is exactly why these cabinets exist.
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Post by: yotsuya on December 09, 2018, 08:33:12 pm
Wow! Your reply was inspiring and insignificant at the same time!At $150 or less I’d pick up Pac-Man, Galaga, and Street Fighter cabinets for the sole purpose of having a mini arcade in the mancave.
This here is exactly why these cabinets exist.
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I just call them like I see them.
Related note:
https://youtu.be/RkE-fp5R110
Post by: smass on December 09, 2018, 09:33:07 pm
I keep hoping someone figures out a way to flash a few more games onto them....
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/)
Nice. Adding usb port successfully means the board is pretty close to being hacked.
Post by: Ignus Fast on December 09, 2018, 10:44:05 pm
EDIT: I guess one major advantage would be the ability to make changes to the emulator and install improved ROMs...
Post by: smass on December 09, 2018, 11:23:50 pm
I'm just not sure that board is worth hacking. As low powered as it is, it's almost always going to be worth the $50 - $75 to add a Pi and a well-chosen selection of games. IMO, of course.
EDIT: I guess one major advantage would be the ability to make changes to the emulator and install improved ROMs...
For my own machine I would agree (but use a free donated computer, not a pi). It would however be nice if you could get the original board to run a short list of 20 or so games. Then I could hack them for friends who just want to play a few more games on their machines.
Post by: ark_ader on December 10, 2018, 12:38:01 am
Post by: smass on December 10, 2018, 03:38:52 pm
Adding a PC is the best thing for these cabs. You need the extra weight to make the cabs more stable. A Dell Dimension 3000 fits in there like a glove, and it is plenty enough for any game like NFL Blitz. You can also use the cab as a plex server. I added a shoe rack for all the 2.5 HDDs (8 in total) and external 3.5 HDDs. Plenty of space for ventilation. No more movement with joy action on Pacman Championship.I was nodding my head until you got to the shoe rack comment. I suppose you could add a cinder block or two to stabilize it... lulz ;D
Post by: leapinlew on December 10, 2018, 07:02:16 pm
Adding a PC is the best thing for these cabs. You need the extra weight to make the cabs more stable. A Dell Dimension 3000 fits in there like a glove, and it is plenty enough for any game like NFL Blitz. You can also use the cab as a plex server. I added a shoe rack for all the 2.5 HDDs (8 in total) and external 3.5 HDDs. Plenty of space for ventilation. No more movement with joy action on Pacman Championship.I was nodding my head until you got to the shoe rack comment. I suppose you could add a cinder block or two to stabilize it... lulz ;D
I like the idea of a steady state box. I don't want to worry about unexpected power downs corrupting the image or slower bootup times. On my last Defender build, I used an inferior Williams multi-board vs using a pi or computer just for that reason. I do love my retropie, but for the arcades I've been using multi-boards when possible.
Post by: Zebra on December 10, 2018, 07:38:59 pm
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/)
It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.
So these things aren't even legal.
If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards. This was done, in part, so manufacturers like this COULD use MAME as a legal option, but even with that on the table they've gone the lazy / cheap route and produced a product that legally they can't even sell by picking a build before from before the work we put in to change the license. So yeah, even when we've done the majority of the work for people like this, at our own expense, they still ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on us.
If they're not bothering to properly license MAME (terms are clear, team is very easy to contact, basic requirement is simple - 0.172 or above for a commercial product + provide source on request) it does make you wonder if the rest was properly licensed too.
I'm not sure if the law is clear on software that is given away free. It might be against the mame rules but not necessarily illegal.
If mame was a commercial software, the owners might be able to sue the arcade 1 up guys for damages (I.e. loss of revenue) but they can't really claim any damages on a product they give away free.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on December 11, 2018, 09:28:40 am
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/)
It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.
So these things aren't even legal.
If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards. This was done, in part, so manufacturers like this COULD use MAME as a legal option, but even with that on the table they've gone the lazy / cheap route and produced a product that legally they can't even sell by picking a build before from before the work we put in to change the license. So yeah, even when we've done the majority of the work for people like this, at our own expense, they still ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on us.
If they're not bothering to properly license MAME (terms are clear, team is very easy to contact, basic requirement is simple - 0.172 or above for a commercial product + provide source on request) it does make you wonder if the rest was properly licensed too.
I'm not sure if the law is clear on software that is given away free. It might be against the mame rules but not necessarily illegal.
If mame was a commercial software, the owners might be able to sue the arcade 1 up guys for damages (I.e. loss of revenue) but they can't really claim any damages on a product they give away free.
Just because it was given away free doesn't mean someone else can sell it.
Post by: JDFan on December 11, 2018, 09:32:08 am
Just because it was given away free doesn't mean someone else can sell it.
But Civil suits are filed based on Damages -- and if there is no financial loss involved they can not sue to recover a loss they did not incur - so what exactly would they sue for ?
Post by: ark_ader on December 11, 2018, 01:33:36 pm
Post by: JDFan on December 14, 2018, 01:41:11 pm
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 14, 2018, 01:51:07 pm
Post by: wp34 on December 14, 2018, 01:55:20 pm
The control panel graphics are especially fragile on these, perhaps even more so than people have been complaining. They put up a pacman in our local store shortly after black Friday. The cp graphics are almost completely gone at this point and keep in mind this is a very small, out of the way store, so it hasn't gotten a lot of traffic. I would clear coat those things before even testing them.
Even the machines setup in Walmarts that are not even playable are losing their graphics. Some clear coat or plexi would seem to be in order.
Post by: JDFan on December 14, 2018, 02:01:46 pm
The control panel graphics are especially fragile on these, perhaps even more so than people have been complaining. They put up a pacman in our local store shortly after black Friday. The cp graphics are almost completely gone at this point and keep in mind this is a very small, out of the way store, so it hasn't gotten a lot of traffic. I would clear coat those things before even testing them.
Yeah from what I've seen they hold up OK until they get that first spot of wear and then that seems to break the bond between the ink and the vinyl and it starts to peel off really quickly after that. I've already ordered the control deck protectors for both ( they have a form posted on their site to order them for free just need to post a pic of your receipt and shipping info and they currently say you should get it within 30 days) and they have started shipping them with a new artwork overlay also but I'll still be putting a clear coat on both before using them.
Post by: smass on December 14, 2018, 06:04:24 pm
I modded my Galaga and added a computer running mame, but that cost me less than $60. Which on top of the $149 I paid, I can live with. Some folks just go overboard, but you be the judge:
Post by: chrisdfw on December 15, 2018, 12:08:14 pm
They are a nice size if you dont have room for a full size game. Also, if you have no wood working skills or equipment but can do the rest then this is a good option.
Heck...I hate the wood cutting and construction part so if they get cheap enough I might do that.
I dont like the built in screen though. It is bad to look at from the sides and not high enough resolution to emulate fake scan lines and the look of a raster pixel.
Post by: JDFan on December 15, 2018, 01:10:08 pm
I dont like the built in screen though. It is bad to look at from the sides and not high enough resolution to emulate fake scan lines and the look of a raster pixel.
17" LCDs can be picked up for less than the $20 you'd spend on getting a LCD controller board for the included LCD and can be used as a drop in replacement if you remove the panel from the case ( ie. Dell, Hp, etc.)
Post by: smass on December 15, 2018, 02:00:12 pm
I dont like the built in screen though. It is bad to look at from the sides and not high enough resolution to emulate fake scan lines and the look of a raster pixel.
17" LCDs can be picked up for less than the $20 you'd spend on getting a LCD controller board for the included LCD and can be used as a drop in replacement if you remove the panel from the case ( ie. Dell, Hp, etc.)
I am going to attempt this soon. How easily is the original lcd removed from the bezel? I haven't been able to find any videos showing the removal and replacement of the LCD screen.
Post by: leapinlew on December 15, 2018, 03:10:27 pm
Some folks just go overboard, but you be the judge:
Of course people can go overboard compared to what I would do. That's with everything though: classic cars to A/V equipment! People can be passionate about their hobbies and when it's not about being an investment, it can be totally justifiable.
In this particular instance, reskinning the cabinet and installing different brains into a system isn't something that would hurt my head too much.
Post by: JDFan on December 15, 2018, 03:23:27 pm
I am going to attempt this soon. How easily is the original lcd removed from the bezel? I haven't been able to find any videos showing the removal and replacement of the LCD screen.
Pretty easy actually - 4 screws to remove the plexi cover and then 8 screws to remove the LCD from the wood frame.
Pic of LCD in wood frame after removing plexi (notice 4 screw holes in wood from where the 4 screws holding the plexi in place were removed. ) -
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2gXs6Qy/CIMG2734.jpg)
Post by: RandyT on December 18, 2018, 12:59:21 pm
My Asteroids model showed up on my doorstep this morning, so I'll be able to do my own testing as well.
Post by: RandyT on December 18, 2018, 09:05:01 pm
Unbelievable.....the "spinner" on the Asteroids version is different from the 12-in-1 and appears to have some active circuitry on it. So a standard spinner doesn't appear to work as a direct replacement for the PCB on the Asteroids version. :banghead: :angry: Looks like I need to try keeping the original PCB in the chain for this version.
I'm just putting this out there to save others some possible aggravation if they think the two versions are the same other than the game selection and controls. They are not.
Post by: leapinlew on December 18, 2018, 09:12:16 pm
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 18, 2018, 11:09:03 pm
Post by: ark_ader on December 19, 2018, 12:04:48 am
I have a special version of the TurboTwist2 spinner control which works properly with these units, if anyone is interested. I have one of the units in the field, being put through the paces by a Tempest enthusiast, and he tells me the game plays great with it, just like the original cabinet. He also tells me that that the Major Havoc setting controls nicely with it as well, but OG Major Havoc players aren't easy to find for testing purposes :P
My Asteroids model showed up on my doorstep this morning, so I'll be able to do my own testing as well.
You have to keep in the spirit of the cab and sell the spinners really cheap, say $15 + shipping?
Post by: RandyT on December 19, 2018, 12:21:43 am
That is unbelievable... is it the same crappy dial “spinner” on the 12-n-1?
Same dial control (or at least it appears to be) but there's a many-legged critter on the underside of the Asteroids dial PCB. Still haven't figured out what it's doing yet. The vids I have seen of the PCB from the 12-in-1 units don't have much of anything on them, so it's a regular encoder switch. My new gizmo works fine on them, just not the Asteroids unit.
What about soldering on the usb port? For the cabs that use mame you can change the input settings and it can detect and use a usb keyboard at least.
I'm ahead of you :). Keyboard works fine. It's running on MAME, just like the 12-in-1. My unit also has Gravitar, Asteroids Deluxe and Street Fighter II hidden inside it. Setting up the UI in MAME with a few combo button presses allows for settings access without leaving a keyboard attached. I'll be trying a regular Opti-Wiz with TT2 on the USB port next. Not sure how many folks will want to go soldering on their new toys for a better spinner though.
But there's a big benefit if they do (no, not the hidden games :) ). The backlight on these monitors is pretty intense, so black is non-existent. However, cranking up the MAME contrast setting to max in the vector titles really gets them popping, even against the lighter background. This also seems to improve the viewing angles quite a bit. The only title where it may not be a good idea is Asteroids Deluxe, because the blue washes out to bright white. The screen size adjustments are also a bonus, as some titles (like Tempest) weren't using as much screen real estate as they could have.
You have to keep in the spirit of the cab and sell the spinners really cheap, say $15 + shipping?
I'd be broke by morning. But hey, if you can get the cabinet for <$200 and put a nice spinner in there, you're still doing well ;)
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 19, 2018, 01:02:48 am
Despite the flaws on these cabs they still seem like a ton of fun for random tinkering imho.
Post by: pbj on December 19, 2018, 01:10:16 pm
:cheers:
Post by: DGP on December 19, 2018, 04:33:58 pm
Post by: RandyT on December 19, 2018, 07:55:17 pm
Despite the flaws on these cabs they still seem like a ton of fun for random tinkering imho.
At first, I thought "good lord, the things I have to buy to do R&D", but I have to admit, the little thing is growing on me. Having a dedicated box for Asteroids is actually pretty nice, as the button layout doesn't lend itself well to a do-it-all panel.
I used some clear laminate on the panel, and replaced the Asteroids buttons with some white CLASSX buttons with leaf switches. Honestly, it looks nice and plays really well now. The LCD isn't great, but it's not terrible for the casual player. As a foundation for folks who will never have a cabinet any other way, it's well worth a couple hundred.
I think I may have another lead on getting a spinner to work with the Asteroids unit now...off to tinker :)
Post by: SlammedNiss on December 19, 2018, 08:43:19 pm
They're all $199 shipped from Walmart today..... Time to get price adjustments.
:cheers:
thanks for the heads up. My nephew bought a Galaga for my brother for Xmas and I'm pretty sure he paid full retail for it. I'll give him a ring and have him call in for a price adjustment. :cheers:
Post by: ark_ader on December 20, 2018, 12:20:02 am
They're all $199 shipped from Walmart today..... Time to get price adjustments.
:cheers:
thanks for the heads up. My nephew bought a Galaga for my brother for Xmas and I'm pretty sure he paid full retail for it. I'll give him a ring and have him call in for a price adjustment. :cheers:
Do you have to return the unit back to Wallymart?
Post by: JDFan on December 20, 2018, 12:42:57 am
They're all $199 shipped from Walmart today..... Time to get price adjustments.
:cheers:
thanks for the heads up. My nephew bought a Galaga for my brother for Xmas and I'm pretty sure he paid full retail for it. I'll give him a ring and have him call in for a price adjustment. :cheers:
Do you have to return the unit back to Wallymart?
Not supposed to have to - they'll make price adjustments if it is still within the return window (which for the holidays is increased from the normal 15 days from purchase to 15 days after Xmas ( ie 1-10-2019) if purchased between Oct. 28th and dec 24th) But some people are saying some stores are not doing the price adjustments saying it has to be within 14 days of purchase - So as usual depends on the store and the manager on that shift !
Post by: pumpkinpie on December 20, 2018, 09:57:42 am
Post by: smass on December 20, 2018, 10:52:59 am
since they have been able to use a usb keyboard with these units - anyone see an issue using a usb encoder to be able to add on extra controls ?
It may happen down the line, but for now I think its much better to just add a pi or PC than it is to fool around with the original arcade1up pcb. The emulation will be better, and the ease of customization will be better.
Post by: RandyT on December 20, 2018, 11:49:45 am
It may happen down the line, but for now I think its much better to just add a pi or PC than it is to fool around with the original arcade1up pcb. The emulation will be better, and the ease of customization will be better.
While all of that is true, at that point you'd have just purchased a small, flimsy $200 CHIKEA box. It would make vastly more sense to try to maximize the value of your purchase, than to replace everything you already paid for.
Post by: pumpkinpie on December 20, 2018, 01:07:07 pm
It may happen down the line, but for now I think its much better to just add a pi or PC than it is to fool around with the original arcade1up pcb. The emulation will be better, and the ease of customization will be better.
While all of that is true, at that point you'd have just purchased a small, flimsy $200 CHIKEA box. It would make vastly more sense to try to maximize the value of your purchase, than to replace everything you already paid for.
that's my thought on this - throw in an inexpensive encoder and some extra buttons/joysticks rather than buying a pi/PC, lcd controller, and amp
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 20, 2018, 01:44:28 pm
It may happen down the line, but for now I think its much better to just add a pi or PC than it is to fool around with the original arcade1up pcb. The emulation will be better, and the ease of customization will be better.
While all of that is true, at that point you'd have just purchased a small, flimsy $200 CHIKEA box. It would make vastly more sense to try to maximize the value of your purchase, than to replace everything you already paid for.
Yeah these are budget cabs..... imho putting a pi/pc in one of these is like putting a pi/pc in one of those little plug and play handhelds from the 2000's ….. Why did you even bother to buy the plug and play at that point?
Post by: chrisdfw on December 20, 2018, 01:55:45 pm
Post by: Mike A on December 20, 2018, 02:10:56 pm
Post by: pbj on December 20, 2018, 02:18:16 pm
While these are cheap and flimsy, I think if I see a pacman or asteroids at 150 I would be tempted to get it just for the cabinet. The time and expense with building and buying or creating the artwork would make it worth it for me at that point. If I built it myself at 3/4 scale how much would the cab artwork cost to have printed? Is there still a good place to download hi res pacman or asteroids side art?
Must not be looking too, too hard, Mr. DFW....
Post by: RandyT on December 20, 2018, 02:31:16 pm
The prices on these are bouncing around like crazy. My local WM had them all marked down to 199 for a couple of days, and now all but the Asteroids model went back to 249. Sudden surge of interest as Christmas draws near? Were they just reducing excessive inventory? Who knows....
Post by: opt2not on December 20, 2018, 02:50:22 pm
The prices on these are bouncing around like crazy. My local WM had them all marked down to 199 for a couple of days, and now all but the Asteroids model went back to 249. Sudden surge of interest as Christmas draws near? Were they just reducing excessive inventory? Who knows....
This is all fine and dandy, but are you going to reply to my PM or what. :lol
Post by: RandyT on December 20, 2018, 03:15:49 pm
This is all fine and dandy, but are you going to reply to my PM or what. :lol
What? :) Sorry, I miss those notifications sometimes.
Post by: pbj on December 20, 2018, 03:45:57 pm
Post by: ark_ader on December 20, 2018, 03:58:59 pm
Post by: nitrogen_widget on December 20, 2018, 04:28:27 pm
While these are cheap and flimsy, I think if I see a pacman or asteroids at 150 I would be tempted to get it just for the cabinet. The time and expense with building and buying or creating the artwork would make it worth it for me at that point. If I built it myself at 3/4 scale how much would the cab artwork cost to have printed? Is there still a good place to download hi res pacman or asteroids side art?
Must not be looking too, too hard, Mr. DFW....
Still Full price at my walmart.
Post by: leapinlew on December 20, 2018, 08:07:05 pm
at that point you'd have just purchased a small, flimsy $200 CHIKEA box.
Is your take away that it's flimsy? I thought it didn't feel too bad. It's definitely not 3/4 ply sturdy, but it seems substantial to me.
Post by: RandyT on December 21, 2018, 01:55:52 am
Is your take away that it's flimsy? I thought it didn't feel too bad. It's definitely not 3/4 ply sturdy, but it seems substantial to me.
Quote
flim·sy
/ˈflimzē/
adjective
1.
comparatively light and insubstantial; easily damaged.
It seems like a lot of these don't even make it through the production and packaging process without some substantial scars. I know mine didn't.
I think if you were going to scratch build something like this, the choice of materials, and likely the method of construction, would fall under the category of "other." It's not bad, but there's a reason they include hardware for fastening it to a wall. For less than half of that cost, you could buy the materials for a cabinet this size (or larger) that an adult could stand atop of without concern.
That said, a lot of the bad rap these get is probably from jaded oldsters and XBOX kids. We would have given our (insert useful body part) for any one of these, back in the day. We probably wouldn't even have balked at the price, even in 30+ year old dollars.
Post by: JDFan on December 21, 2018, 08:41:00 am
That said, a lot of the bad rap these get is probably from jaded oldsters and XBOX kids. We would have given our (insert useful body part) for any one of these, back in the day. We probably wouldn't even have balked at the price, even in 30+ year old dollars.
Aint that the truth !
Another thing that didn't help them was their marketing dept with the 5' tall actors and staging them shots to make the machines appear much taller/wider than they are like the pic below. And the "Genuine Arcade controls" - " "bringing the REAL Arcade experience to the home" etc. etc. - They built up expectations to a point where when people started seeing what they actually were they felt dissapointed when they would have been fine with it if they hadn't been expecting much more !
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Du4D-2bWsAEGjab.jpg:large)
Post by: chrisdfw on December 21, 2018, 09:57:58 am
I would assume someone here has dealt with stick on artwork and can recommend something and a guess on prices. I have no idea because what I have seen for custom printed side art, kickplate, control panel, and marquee is more than a 1up cab alone.
Post by: yotsuya on December 21, 2018, 10:12:50 am
I dunno, I get that these are cheap and fast. I think they’re perfect as gifts for your sons or daughters or nieces or nephews. But as a grown man with the ability to do more (that this very site and hobby have given me), they just do nothing for me. I wouldn’t pick one up for myself at $25. As a gift, sure. But for me? Nope.
Post by: yotsuya on December 21, 2018, 06:44:27 pm
Yeah. Anyone who thinks these are 3/4 scale is smoking goooooooood stuff. Good marketing ploy.
They’re cute toys for the kids. Can’t believe Frys is still listing them at $349.
Post by: pbj on December 21, 2018, 07:48:44 pm
Anyway, buddy of mine got his $199 ones delivered today. Returned them to Walmart with full price receipts from his Black Friday purchases. These are decent for $200.
Post by: JDFan on December 21, 2018, 09:21:00 pm
Dude, you saw the pic of me standing next to it. Cmon.
Anyway, buddy of mine got his $199 ones delivered today. Returned them to Walmart with full price receipts from his Black Friday purchases. These are decent for $200.
I wound up with 3 of them ( Galaga, Pacman, and Asteroids ) at $150 each - likewise returned the pacman from Black Friday for $249+ Tax and got $100+ back - For $150 - $200 they're a decent deal as long as you know what you are getting.
Post by: wp34 on December 21, 2018, 10:27:29 pm
Post by: RandyT on December 21, 2018, 10:50:18 pm
Saw my first playable 1UP's tonight. As has been noted the buttons are terrible. Asteroids IMO looked horrible but Tempest looked pretty darn good. The spinner was as bad as folks have said which is too bad because I would have played me some Tempest.
The vector titles look better if you solder a USB extension cable onto the mainboard, so you can use a keyboard to crank the contrast setting in MAME.
Post by: smass on December 21, 2018, 11:00:12 pm
It may happen down the line, but for now I think its much better to just add a pi or PC than it is to fool around with the original arcade1up pcb. The emulation will be better, and the ease of customization will be better.
While all of that is true, at that point you'd have just purchased a small, flimsy $200 CHIKEA box. It would make vastly more sense to try to maximize the value of your purchase, than to replace everything you already paid for.
Suppose so. But I am fine with that. I have three, a Galaga, Pacman, and Street Fighter. I got them for $150 each. Add a $10 17" LCD monitor from CL, free donated windows 7 computer, and $25 bucks worth of encoder/button/joystick and you are in there...
I have five full size cabs in my basement arcade. I like the form factor of the arcade1ups and the weight. They play just fine from my desk chairs that I roll over to them. They fit nicely in my den and don't dominate the room and piss off my wife. For $150 could I build one better? Probably, but it would cost me time and effort, and the dust flying part of this hobby is my least favorite part. To each their own. :)
Post by: yotsuya on December 21, 2018, 11:00:48 pm
Saw my first playable 1UP's tonight. As has been noted the buttons are terrible. Asteroids IMO looked horrible but Tempest looked pretty darn good. The spinner was as bad as folks have said which is too bad because I would have played me some Tempest.
The vector titles look better if you solder a USB extension cable onto the mainboard, so you can use a keyboard to crank the contrast setting in MAME.
Yeah, but you shouldn’t **have** to do that as a consumer. ;)
Post by: RandyT on December 21, 2018, 11:14:30 pm
Yeah, but you shouldn’t **have** to do that as a consumer. ;)
True enough. I can understand why they kept MAME buried, but they could have tuned the display settings a bit better for those titles.
Post by: SlammedNiss on December 25, 2018, 01:15:50 am
Post by: negative1 on December 25, 2018, 03:33:03 am
Question for those of you who have a 1Up Galaga. I haven't read thru this entire thread so maybe it's already been covered. But it has to do with the high score. First time my brother got 197,xxx and I think I had 167,000. Was curious if it retained the high scores if shut off, which it does, kind of. After it plays thru the entice sequence and shows list of high scores, the scores indeed show up as they should with our initials. But, the 'High Score' at the very top middle shows only 97,xxx, effectively dropping 100,000 off. Is this normal?
It's a known defect in their implementation:
"GALAGA CABINET - Very minimal design faults; issues saving high score over 100,000;..."
ref : https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/9qe1aq/arcade1up_open_and_resolved_issues_list_updated/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/9qe1aq/arcade1up_open_and_resolved_issues_list_updated/)
Be aware if you experience lock ups or freezes in the game, or while playing Galaxian, you will need to
request a new replacement PCB board to fix it. They have issued one, but they didn't mention whether
it fixes the high score save. The scores should save to the main table properly.
I killscreened the game to just over 3 million, but of course, the high score table and main score only register 999,990:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncV1bX1V/galaga-score-1to3mill.jpg)
later
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Post by: ark_ader on December 25, 2018, 05:17:07 am
Made two replacement CPs for the Galaga. One for the rotating panel.
Took my xarcade encoder apart for the multi console mod and adding shelves inside. More weight the better.
I do more work on crimbo hols than I do all year. :lol
Post by: The 80s Man on December 26, 2018, 02:17:43 pm
Just a thought, I bet the peel and stick chrome trim they sell at automotive stores would work as simulated t-molding. They sell black trim instead of chrome as well.
Post by: pbj on December 26, 2018, 02:21:19 pm
I killscreened the game to just over 3 million, but of course, the high score table and main score only register 999,990:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncV1bX1V/galaga-score-1to3mill.jpg)
You sat in a Wal-Mart playing Galaga until you hit the kill screen?
Dude.
:dizzy:
Post by: Malenko on December 26, 2018, 03:14:51 pm
You sat in a Wal-Mart playing Galaga until you hit the kill screen?
Don't have to return it if you never buy it!
Post by: yotsuya on December 26, 2018, 04:01:39 pm
I killscreened the game to just over 3 million, but of course, the high score table and main score only register 999,990:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncV1bX1V/galaga-score-1to3mill.jpg)
You sat in a Wal-Mart playing Galaga until you hit the kill screen?
Dude.
:dizzy:
That does sound pretty sad when you put it like that.
Post by: negative1 on December 26, 2018, 04:30:30 pm
You sat in a Wal-Mart playing Galaga until you hit the kill screen?
Dude.
:dizzy:
That does sound pretty sad when you put it like that.
i wish i could have sat. i had to stand with my neck craned, and my back hunched over.
every bonus level i had to adjust my arms, and hoped my wrists weren't getting cramps.
not very optimal. but the things we do to play videogames.
later
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Post by: smass on December 26, 2018, 09:42:08 pm
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iEMAAOSwj25Y8Pdj/s-l400.jpg)
Just a thought, I bet the peel and stick chrome trim they sell at automotive stores would work as simulated t-molding. They sell black trim instead of chrome as well.
1/2" vinyl pinstriping tape works the nuts. Here is Galaga green for instance: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z2C29H/?coliid=I2EWIDLOS2XFA7&colid=3C73L73LAWUHO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z2C29H/?coliid=I2EWIDLOS2XFA7&colid=3C73L73LAWUHO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)
Post by: ark_ader on December 27, 2018, 03:30:57 am
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iEMAAOSwj25Y8Pdj/s-l400.jpg)
Just a thought, I bet the peel and stick chrome trim they sell at automotive stores would work as simulated t-molding. They sell black trim instead of chrome as well.
1/2" vinyl pinstriping tape works the nuts. Here is Galaga green for instance: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z2C29H/?coliid=I2EWIDLOS2XFA7&colid=3C73L73LAWUHO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z2C29H/?coliid=I2EWIDLOS2XFA7&colid=3C73L73LAWUHO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)
If I added that I would be kicked out of the house. Green is a very tricky color, but baby puke green is out of the question on a cab. :dizzy:
Post by: Ginsu Victim on December 27, 2018, 09:45:35 am
I was wondering when someone was going to address that. :lolI killscreened the game to just over 3 million, but of course, the high score table and main score only register 999,990:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncV1bX1V/galaga-score-1to3mill.jpg)
You sat in a Wal-Mart playing Galaga until you hit the kill screen?
Dude.
:dizzy:
Post by: RandyT on December 27, 2018, 01:26:54 pm
A) You need a USB port hack to get to and change
B) Aren't saved by the machine after you exit the game.
It's sad, because once you set up the game properly in the MAME settings, it plays and looks just like it should. Major Havoc, OTOH, saves the settings and works great.
Again, this is on the Asteroids version, so the 12-in-1 may be different. I'll need to reach out to one of the testers for that info, as I'm not keen on dropping $300+ for the other model. :(
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 27, 2018, 02:27:26 pm
Post by: RandyT on December 27, 2018, 03:38:11 pm
It saves hi scores right? It doesn't make any sense for it to save settings for one game and not for another unless a cfg file is already present and set to read only. Is it possible to upload a new one via serial connection, or is the access read only?
I don't believe it does. My goal, and that of the hackers, is different. I need to tune my device to seamlessly elevate the play experience on the machine, without resorting to gaining full access to the operating system. That's out of the realm of most users' capabilities, so I will likely just need to make the best of what is available at the surface. There are folks working on that, and users who are successful in opening up the system won't have a need for what I am working on, as a stock TT2 will work fine for that group :).
Post by: negative1 on December 27, 2018, 07:37:54 pm
It saves hi scores right? It doesn't make any sense for it to save settings for one game and not for another unless a cfg file is already present and set to read only. Is it possible to upload a new one via serial connection, or is the access read only?
I don't believe it does. My goal, and that of the hackers, is different. I need to tune my device to seamlessly elevate the play experience on the machine, without resorting to gaining full access to the operating system. That's out of the realm of most users' capabilities, so I will likely just need to make the best of what is available at the surface. There are folks working on that, and users who are successful in opening up the system won't have a need for what I am working on, as a stock TT2 will work fine for that group :).
Agreed, that the goals are differerent.
All the details known so far are these : https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/)
i'm working on modifying the pac-man files, so that the galaga ones work also.
and there are efforts to get MAME working on these boards too.
once you get access, you can pretty much do what you want with the files,
but the programmers were sloppy, and overwrite a lot of the config files,
and others with savestates as an easy way to go back.
it should be easy to restore machines to their stock state also.
i think the focus is on the 12-1, but i haven't messed with that yet,
maybe in the next week or two.
all of this is just an exercise, because, of course, its just easier to replace it with something
completely different. my pac-man is now a vertical only (temporarily) xbox one mod, and it
also has xbox 360, and pc emulation. several modified controllers are attached to it to make
more modular. it's a bit messy, so i'm not posting pictures, but there's a video on EWWWTUBE
showing it. (since you guys hate EWWWTUBE links), i'll spare you.
later
-1
Post by: RandyT on December 27, 2018, 11:49:15 pm
Regardless, I now have a spinner solution for these units with unmodified MAME settings. I developed some spinner profiles which address play accuracy, while working within the host's limitations. I also have a couple which will provide an even better experience for those who can tweak the MAME settings. And if that's not good enough, users can easily tune the spinner themselves. Further, if the user decides to later scrap the A1UP hardware in favor of something better, the TT2 will still be usable.
Hopefully, this will be a better alternative to drawing on encoder wheels with markers :).
*edit* Just to be clear, this is a special package which will be available shortly. The regular TT2 is not recommended for these machines.
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 28, 2018, 01:09:40 am
Post by: negative1 on December 28, 2018, 10:51:04 am
anyone with a galaga machine, and experiencing lockups with galaxian.
this is a known issue, and you will have to contact Arcade 1UP for a replacement PCB.
Take a video of the game freezing, and take a picture of your reciept for proof. You will
probably have to send your old board in also.
This will fix two things:
--------------------------
Red player ship sprite - unlike the white one [which is a modified Namco ROM]
Game freezing
later
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Post by: RandyT on December 28, 2018, 11:15:23 am
I wouldn't quickly dismiss the hacks being done to the software. Typically with these stand alone games (the classic consoles, ect) eventually a solution will be made that's so easy an idiot could install it. Since the files are writeable I can see someone compiling a custom build of mame with a one click installer.
I don't think anyone is being dismissive. The thing is, doing these kinds of things require at least some soldering on the main PCB, just to get a way in, before that "1-click idiot-proof MAME replacement" could even be considered. The vast majority hasn't even done the USB mod for the keyboard, or for that matter, is even aware of it.
And just replacing MAME doesn't fix some of the issues related to the system itself. As it turns out, a standard spinner meant for a PC is a very poor choice for these units, and MAME tweaking alone can't fully address the issue with this hardware base.
*edit* Side note: Someone in the thread linked above, recently tried to do what you suggested to add more games, and it appears that each of these are compiled with a subset of support specific to the games on the units. So a complete replacement would probably be required, and that may or may not come to pass. Pi's are too cheap, and are a better hardware platform, which makes them much more attractive to those with that kind of goal.
Post by: pbj on December 28, 2018, 12:10:30 pm
Pi's are too cheap, and are a better hardware platform, which makes them much more attractive to those with that kind of goal.
Which means that hacks on everything else are half assed at best now.
Post by: negative1 on December 28, 2018, 12:30:44 pm
I wouldn't quickly dismiss the hacks being done to the software. Typically with these stand alone games (the classic consoles, ect) eventually a solution will be made that's so easy an idiot could install it. Since the files are writeable I can see someone compiling a custom build of mame with a one click installer.
I don't think anyone is being dismissive. The thing is, doing these kinds of things require at least some soldering on the main PCB, just to get a way in, before that "1-click idiot-proof MAME replacement" could even be considered. The vast majority hasn't even done the USB mod for the keyboard, or for that matter, is even aware of it.
And just replacing MAME doesn't fix some of the issues related to the system itself. As it turns out, a standard spinner meant for a PC is a very poor choice for these units, and MAME tweaking alone can't fully address the issue with this hardware base.
*edit* Side note: Someone in the thread linked above, recently tried to do what you suggested to add more games, and it appears that each of these are compiled with a subset of support specific to the games on the units. So a complete replacement would probably be required, and that may or may not come to pass. Pi's are too cheap, and are a better hardware platform, which makes them much more attractive to those with that kind of goal.
I agree with everything said here.
There will be people who will do those mods for a price though.
But in the end, you're probably better off, just replacing everything.
The only real reason, any of this hacking the board was done in the first place was just to prove that it can be done,
and for the challenge of it.
I don't think there's any real practical use for it.
Personally, I like the challenge, and I'm learning a lot more about hardware, and software hacking, and
arcade 1UP boards, along with emulation.
later
-1
Post by: Malenko on December 28, 2018, 12:46:14 pm
-Signatures are for dooshboxes
+2
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 28, 2018, 04:55:29 pm
if you have to replace everything why buy it in the first place?
Exactly. IMHO, gutting the included board and putting a pi with a lcd controller in it for around 100 bucks rather than just hacking the thing makes about as much sense as buying a snes classic for 80 and then putting a pi in it and buying new usb controllers instead of hacking it. Don't buy these things for the shells guys, because they aren't exactly top quality in that aspect.
Post by: chrisdfw on December 28, 2018, 09:46:34 pm
if you have to replace everything why buy it in the first place?
Exactly. IMHO, gutting the included board and putting a pi with a lcd controller in it for around 100 bucks rather than just hacking the thing makes about as much sense as buying a snes classic for 80 and then putting a pi in it and buying new usb controllers instead of hacking it. Don't buy these things for the shells guys, because they aren't exactly top quality in that aspect.
Ok, so I will ask again. I have seen these in person and the artwork isnt bad and as long as the control panel is protected. What does it cost and what are the options for getting this size of side art, control panel, and marquee printed to stick on a cabinet that I build from scratch?
Post by: Nephasth on December 28, 2018, 10:37:43 pm
if you have to replace everything why buy it in the first place?
Exactly. IMHO, gutting the included board and putting a pi with a lcd controller in it for around 100 bucks rather than just hacking the thing makes about as much sense as buying a snes classic for 80 and then putting a pi in it and buying new usb controllers instead of hacking it. Don't buy these things for the shells guys, because they aren't exactly top quality in that aspect.
Ok, so I will ask again. I have seen these in person and the artwork isnt bad and as long as the control panel is protected. What does it cost and what are the options for getting this size of side art, control panel, and marquee printed to stick on a cabinet that I build from scratch?
Build a bigger one.
Post by: Malenko on December 28, 2018, 11:02:29 pm
Ok, so I will ask again. I have seen these in person and the artwork isnt bad and as long as the control panel is protected. What does it cost and what are the options for getting this size of side art, control panel, and marquee printed to stick on a cabinet that I build from scratch?
Art work that size and quality? $40
Post by: Osirus23 on December 28, 2018, 11:15:22 pm
if you have to replace everything why buy it in the first place?
Exactly. IMHO, gutting the included board and putting a pi with a lcd controller in it for around 100 bucks rather than just hacking the thing makes about as much sense as buying a snes classic for 80 and then putting a pi in it and buying new usb controllers instead of hacking it. Don't buy these things for the shells guys, because they aren't exactly top quality in that aspect.
Ok, so I will ask again. I have seen these in person and the artwork isnt bad and as long as the control panel is protected. What does it cost and what are the options for getting this size of side art, control panel, and marquee printed to stick on a cabinet that I build from scratch?
Build a bigger one.
Exactly. No one building their own cabinet builds one waist-high.
Post by: Mike A on December 29, 2018, 05:22:53 am
Post by: negative1 on December 29, 2018, 05:43:49 am
if you have to replace everything why buy it in the first place?
-Signatures are for dooshboxes
+2
you would figure people around here have spare parts,
and it's not hard to find a cheap computer or raspberry pi.
you can live with the stock controls, but it doesn't cost much
to get better parts.
most of the fun half the people are having is modding their machines,
and seeing how extreme they can get with it.
cost is not an issue to them.
lighted marquees, completely redone artwork, superior sound systems.
i'm sure plenty have spent way more than they did on the machine.
and people that are buying them for $50,$75, $100,$150 all feel like they got a bargain.
=============
i'm not going that extreme,
but i'm testing out a lot of stuff for another side project.
might as well do it on the pac-man cabinet i have here:
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1) replaced stock joystick with arcade quality 2/4/8 way
2) replacing and adding new buttons to controller, to support more NAMCO vertical games
3) LCD marquee that changes to show the game
4) stereo sound with subwoofer
5) multi system input - xbox one/xbox 360/pc
total expenses so far $50 for controls, and LCD for marquee.
$30 for the compatible LCD controller that works with the monitor.
[although i will swap it out with a better one i have later on]
I can live with that, since I got the Pac-man cabinet for $100.
I already have all the other equipment already.
so for me, it's a win.
later
-1
Post by: chrisdfw on December 29, 2018, 08:22:52 am
Ok, so I will ask again. I have seen these in person and the artwork isnt bad and as long as the control panel is protected. What does it cost and what are the options for getting this size of side art, control panel, and marquee printed to stick on a cabinet that I build from scratch?
Art work that size and quality? $40
Where please?
Post by: chrisdfw on December 29, 2018, 08:39:54 am
I would prefer to build a lot of little 1/3 size with 6 inch screens based on some 7 inch windows tablets I got cheap.
However, with a riser or sitting on a chair I dont find these 1up cabinets that offensive if the price is down to $100.
I guess we all have different goals. I like the nostalgia of seeing the original artwork and game but dont need it full size in my house. I would prefer to have 4 or 5 small classics than 1 or 2 frankenpanel full size units.
Post by: ark_ader on December 29, 2018, 08:45:45 am
I am still amazed that people in this hobby went so nuts over these crap boxes. They might be decent for children, but not adults. Most people who post here know that the pointy end of a drill makes holes in stuff. That is about all the skill you need to make a much better cabinet.
Really? Are you speaking for everyone on the planet or just in the country? Most people do not know woodworking skills, or the intelligence to get the electronics going. Do you know how hard it is to get a full sized arcade machine into a house? Never mind those who live up three flights of stairs, or have difficult girlfriend/wives who see these toys as irresponsible junk. These 1up Arcades work or put the shell in front of someone who would like to mod. Decent for children? They wouldn't play on it for ever - it wasn't part of their childhood, think it was a novelty and probably side with their mommy.
When I see comments like this on a board devoted to arcade gaming, I see the death knell of this hobby. So is 2019 the end of retro?
Post by: Mike A on December 29, 2018, 08:49:45 am
Quote
I am still amazed that people in this hobby went so nuts over these crap boxes.
I said people in this hobby you ---sufferer of cranial-rectal-inversion---. Not everybody.
Post by: Mike A on December 29, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Post by: smass on December 29, 2018, 09:35:29 am
For $150 you can't beat these things. Also, I hate bartops. So there. :P
Post by: ark_ader on December 29, 2018, 09:47:42 am
QuoteI am still amazed that people in this hobby went so nuts over these crap boxes.
I said people in this hobby you ---sufferer of cranial-rectal-inversion---. Not everybody.
Duh! Nobody told me you are funny.
I also have no problem with smaller cabs like bartops. I help people here all of the time with them. These 1up cabs are ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Your act is tired Ark.
Well how many did they sell? They are going to be around for a long time. So you will be happy playing the Debby downer for all those guys wanting to play more games on them. Better start a wiki on it soon.
I like mine. I have three. They were only $150 each. The form factor is perfect for my computer room. They take up about half the space of a full size cabinet. Having them on the main floor has worked out great with guests over the holidays as we can all hang out on the same floor and kids/adults can play some games. I have built two cabs from scratch, converted two empty cabs to mame, and have 3 original cabs in the basement. So yeah, I can use a drill, heck I can even work a router and re-flow solder. But still, in MY OPINION:
For $150 you can't beat these things. Also, I hate bartops. So there. :P
That's the spirit!
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 10:09:10 am
I've found a couple on clearance in the $250 range, but nothing at the $150 spot. That's a real sweet price. I would consider one for the office at that point.
I think they are great units. I don't think the company has legs to last much longer, but I'll enjoy the option why they are here.
Post by: JDFan on December 29, 2018, 11:44:29 am
You two knock it off or get a room already.
I've found a couple on clearance in the $250 range, but nothing at the $150 spot. That's a real sweet price. I would consider one for the office at that point.
I think they are great units. I don't think the company has legs to last much longer, but I'll enjoy the option why they are here.
I'd agree - I bought one at $250 on Black Friday just to give them a try and then found a local store with them priced at $150 - bought 3 there and returned one to get my $250 back so have 3 I paid $150 each for - at that price they are worth the price as is for the 2 - 4 games they come with for awhile and then will probably wind up modding 2 of them ( 1 Vertical and 1 Horizontal layout )
The company should last awhile - figure all these price fluctuations don't really effect them since they already got their wholesale price so what happens at retail effects the end retailer more than the wholesaler ( though it may effect future orders ) and Walmart wouldn't be selling them at $150 if they had paid more than that for them ! We don't know the actual break even price on these things but I'd doubt it's more than $80 +/- - so even at the $150 price there is still some profit being made. :dunno
Post by: RandyT on December 29, 2018, 01:32:25 pm
These things are way better than any mass-marketed attempt in the past, and they are helping to bring new people into the fold of this waning community. They are, for many, the gateway into what we do here. Once you knock together a store-bought bookshelf, it helps to build confidence so that the next time, you might just try building a better one yourself. It also offers an incremental approach to the costs involved in making a machine. The base units work well enough and look good on their own to get started, and parts can be purchased to upgrade them when money is available. And, when/if the individual decides it's time to move to something better, those parts will be able to follow along.
If for no other reason, these units should be seen as a welcomed development by anyone who wishes to see this community gain more members. But if you need another reason, they are a fun diversion which won't take up dozens of your free weekends to build and tinker with... unless you want to.
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 03:32:41 pm
I don't get it. People (in this hobby) will spend a relatively ridiculous amount of time, effort and money to make a tiny and virtually unplayable cabinet which sits on a desk. Yet when something which is large enough to actually be useful, yet small enough to fit just about anywhere with the whole shebangy-bang of artwork, monitor, controls and licensed roms hits the market, the noses start elevating.
These things are way better than any mass-marketed attempt in the past, and they are helping to bring new people into the fold of this waning community. They are, for many, the gateway into what we do here. Once you knock together a store-bought bookshelf, it helps to build confidence so that the next time, you might just try building a better one yourself. It also offers an incremental approach to the costs involved in making a machine. The base units work well enough and look good on their own to get started, and parts can be purchased to upgrade them when money is available. And, when/if the individual decides it's time to move to something better, those parts will be able to follow along.
If for no other reason, these units should be seen as a welcomed development by anyone who wishes to see this community gain more members. But if you need another reason, they are a fun diversion which won't take up dozens of your free weekends to build and tinker with... unless you want to.
Well said.
Post by: Malenko on December 29, 2018, 03:58:59 pm
I don't get it. People (in this hobby) will spend a relatively ridiculous amount of time, effort and money to make a tiny and virtually unplayable cabinet which sits on a desk. Yet when something which is large enough to actually be useful, yet small enough to fit just about anywhere with the whole shebangy-bang of artwork, monitor, controls and licensed roms hits the market, the noses start elevating.
I think the build quality is too low, for $300. For $100-$150 its fine, as a toy for a kid.
I don't agree that they are a good starting point to build a better cabinet with.
I haven't seen a single new member sign up because they bought an arcade1up.
Post by: opt2not on December 29, 2018, 04:35:40 pm
While neat, they’re disingenuous to the arcade experience. Just like these boxes.
Bottom line is these Arcade1up cabs are a cash grab on the ever trending retro gaming scene and is made apparent by the creator’s lack of understanding of the arcade quality experience. They cut so many corners that compromises the feel of a real arcade machine.
Whether you deem it worthy to polish a turd, put lipstick on a pig, or whatever colourful euphemism you have that describes trying to make something poorly manufactured into a quality product, it’s entirely up to you.
But at the end of the day you gotta decide for yourself what is “good enough” because there is a ceiling with these things. They’ll never be as quality as a DIY solution. Period.
#makeBYOACgreatAgain
#noobsGottaLearnTheHardWay
Post by: RandyT on December 29, 2018, 04:37:16 pm
I think the build quality is too low, for $300. For $100-$150 its fine, as a toy for a kid.
I don't agree that they are a good starting point to build a better cabinet with.
I haven't seen a single new member sign up because they bought an arcade1up.
I think they are decent for beginners with no other real option. I haven't seen a little kid buy these.
They are a good starting point in that results are immediate, encouraging and de-mystify what's involved.
It's early yet. We get new members who often have lurked for years.
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 06:42:50 pm
For $100-$150 its fine, as a toy for a kid.
Yeah! Because real adults play games, not toys. Unless you want to play games with your toys, that's ok but then it's not a toy, it's a game and we don't toy with our games ::)
Post by: ark_ader on December 29, 2018, 07:02:49 pm
For $100-$150 its fine, as a toy for a kid.
Yeah! Because real adults play games, not toys. Unless you want to play games with your toys, that's ok but then it's not a toy, it's a game and we don't toy with our games ::)
Couldn't have said it better myself, even thought it took me a few attempts to read it without coffee.
I have one of these cabinets and I have a proper Stargate that I am working on. I am more interested in this 1UpArcade than the Stargate, as the 1Up Arcade intrigues and provokes me to better it. Change the CP, add my consoles to it, put a mini fridge in it. The sky is the limit. Yet I do not covet it. It has its place and is part of the furniture, and that is the appeal, not a old beat up Stargate cab, but a fresh new cabaret that can be had for $150. The decision to keep the Stargate or take a sledge hammer to it, when I move is more practical as the aesthetic has been diverted to the 1Up Arcade.
Post by: Osirus23 on December 29, 2018, 07:28:27 pm
Change the CP, add my consoles to it, put a mini fridge in it. The sky is the limit.
They should just call these the Cabinet of Theseus.
Post by: Nephasth on December 29, 2018, 08:40:07 pm
Post by: Malenko on December 29, 2018, 08:51:42 pm
Yeah! Because real adults play games, not toys. Unless you want to play games with your toys, that's ok but then it's not a toy, it's a game and we don't toy with our games ::)This has to do with the quality of the product. It's quality is that of a toy. It's like a zizzle pinball machine. A toy approximation of the real deal. Your entire reply makes absolutely zero sense.
Post by: wp34 on December 29, 2018, 08:59:21 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 09:51:48 pm
Yeah! Because real adults play games, not toys. Unless you want to play games with your toys, that's ok but then it's not a toy, it's a game and we don't toy with our games ::)This has to do with the quality of the product. It's quality is that of a toy. It's like a zizzle pinball machine. A toy approximation of the real deal. Your entire reply makes absolutely zero sense.
What doesn't make sense is the badgering of people who want to play with their "toys".
Guess what, I don't like candy cabs. That's not what an arcade game looks like to me. Instead of popping into candy cab threads and proclaiming what junk that style of cabinet is, I usually choose to not even read them. It's literally that easy. You should try it. ;D
If I was an arcade1up owner logging into BYOAC and I saw the Old Guard on flame patrol duty, I wouldn't post either.
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 09:54:16 pm
Yeah! Because real adults play games, not toys. Unless you want to play games with your toys, that's ok but then it's not a toy, it's a game and we don't toy with our games ::)This has to do with the quality of the product. It's quality is that of a toy. It's like a zizzle pinball machine. A toy approximation of the real deal. Your entire reply makes absolutely zero sense.
Since you got swooshed (even though you'll claim you didn't and it was somehow my fault), my reply wasn't supposed to make sense - just like you calling them toys. Hilarious.
Post by: opt2not on December 29, 2018, 10:12:18 pm
Wake up sheeple! :dizzy:
Post by: wp34 on December 29, 2018, 10:19:41 pm
Some of the “old guard” here have forgotten this forum is called Build Your Own Arcade Controls. And these cash-grab-trash-cabs are not even in the same dimension of candy cabs. That argument is fallacious at best. It’s not about like. It’s about quality. These don’t even satisfy the bare minimum of quality,..made apparent by the amount of talk around replacing practically everything.
Wake up sheeple! :dizzy:
I don't get your point about "Build your own". You started the original Arcade 1Up thread.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,157888.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,157888.0.html)
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 10:36:19 pm
Some of the “old guard” here have forgotten this forum is called Build Your Own Arcade Controls. And these cash-grab-trash-cabs are not even in the same dimension of candy cabs. That argument is fallacious at best. It’s not about like. It’s about quality. These don’t even satisfy the bare minimum of quality,..made apparent by the amount of talk around replacing practically everything.
Wake up sheeple! :dizzy:
When the forum was started, it was a "Build Your Own" world when it came to Arcades. We all take conveniences when possible, right? I haven't built an encoder or spinner in a long time, and I prefer it that way. If someone buys a Arcade1up and installs new controls and a new PCB, that's just as much "building" as anyone using some bartop kit and the almost countless "build" threads in Project Announcement.
The retro-fad is in full swing - and I think it's cool. It doesn't bother me one bit what you, or anyone else, does with their money so why are some of you guys so worked up about people buying and liking their Arcade1ups?
You don't like them, you think they are trash. Got it. Now, move on.
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 10:37:07 pm
Post by: opt2not on December 29, 2018, 10:43:37 pm
And to be clear, I started that other thread before we found out the quality of these. Once reviews got out, and I got to see and play these in person, I saw the err of my ways. It’s a shame some of the old guard here are more concerned about holding on to their opinions rather than reality.
LOL, these are now being posted for $50 locally. Even at that price it’s still not worth the hassle. Or maybe to some of our old guard, it is?
Post by: wp34 on December 29, 2018, 10:46:26 pm
As long as this thread gets bumped by people praising how wonderful of a shortcut these cabs are, I will not move on.
And to be clear, I started that other thread before we found out the quality of these. Once reviews got out, and I got to see and play these in person, I saw the err of my ways. It’s a shame some of the old guard here are more concerned about holding on to their opinions rather than reality.
LOL, these are now being posted for $50 locally. Even at that price it’s still not worth the hassle. Or maybe to some of our old guard, it is?
So if the quality would have been acceptable it would be okay to buy one even though this site is all about building?
Post by: opt2not on December 29, 2018, 10:48:25 pm
Though I get what you’re saying about conveniences, especially back then when the hobby was younger, but where’s the line, man? If you’re replacing everything on these things, how much can you call that convenience?
Post by: leapinlew on December 29, 2018, 11:09:26 pm
The A1UP release has been a little different though. The disdain for these cabinets came before some people even saw them. It was like telling Android phone users about a yet to be released iPhone. They already hated it.
Post by: Nephasth on December 29, 2018, 11:12:10 pm
To me, it's about playing the games in an acceptable fashion.
Sitting down to play like you're sitting on a Squatty-Potty is not acceptable.
Post by: Malenko on December 29, 2018, 11:14:28 pm
Post by: wp34 on December 29, 2018, 11:18:39 pm
To me, it's about playing the games in an acceptable fashion. Everyone has a different idea of when the experience is not "arcadey" enough. LCD vs CRT, Emulation vs PCB, etc. To me, the A1UP's are as acceptable of an arcade experience as a bartop is.
The A1UP release has been a little different though. The disdain for these cabinets came before some people even saw them. It was like telling Android phone users about a yet to be released iPhone. They already hated it.
Not liking them...heck even hating them is fine. Coming into this thread multiple times to say how/why you don't like them is a bit bizarre. Even sillier is the idea that the greater good is being served by continuing to bash the 1UP's.
If you don't like the 1UP's simply ignore the thread. Better yet start your own build thread and show people how you think it should be done.
Post by: opt2not on December 29, 2018, 11:27:26 pm
It’s like someone coming to you and asking directions to a place, then you telling them you can get there by climbing that mountain instead of pointing them to the well paved road that goes around the mountain. Sure, going up the mountain might get you there quicker than going around, but you’ll have less scrapes and bruises taking the road around, and in the end have a more enjoyable time when you get there.
Like I said, as long as people keep praising these things, I won’t stop, can’t stop, posting my distain for them.
Feel free to ignore this thread yourself, or heck, hit that ignore button on me, no skin off my back. I’d be proud to shut down this government. :lol
Post by: Nephasth on December 29, 2018, 11:27:50 pm
Coming into this thread multiple times to say how/why you don't like them is a bit bizarre.
That's basically the whole premise of the internet today. Telling complete strangers your opinion that they really don't care about.
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 12:03:22 am
I was there buying parts to fix my full-sized Multipede and my Missile Command. Both are up and running now, and I couldn’t be more chuffed.
Post by: leapinlew on December 30, 2018, 12:49:26 am
I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play
Funny.... you could be describing a cocktail cabinet.
I never liked cocktails. I've owned 3 - Joust, Ms. Pacman, and a Space Invaders. I finally gave up and realized the ergonomics didn't work for me. I could see the ergonomics of the A1UP's being problematic for some, but I've seen quite a few happy with the overall size and weight.
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 30, 2018, 01:05:28 am
I don't get it. People (in this hobby) will spend a relatively ridiculous amount of time, effort and money to make a tiny and virtually unplayable cabinet which sits on a desk. Yet when something which is large enough to actually be useful, yet small enough to fit just about anywhere with the whole shebangy-bang of artwork, monitor, controls and licensed roms hits the market, the noses start elevating.
I think the build quality is too low, for $300. For $100-$150 its fine, as a toy for a kid.
I don't agree that they are a good starting point to build a better cabinet with.
I haven't seen a single new member sign up because they bought an arcade1up.
I mostly agree with this sentiment. They aren't even hobby grade and that is OK so long as you don't get carried away and spend too much and/or do expensive upgrades on them. They are fun, they have a nice design and there is hacking potential to get more value out of them. That's about the extent of it though.
That being said I think we will eventually get some new members from them, assuming someone steers them in this direction. Right now people are still playing with their new toys, but eventually they will either lose interest and throw it on Craig's list or want something more serious and turn to sites like this for help. It's just too early right now.
Post by: negative1 on December 30, 2018, 01:26:23 am
I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play
Funny.... you could be describing a cocktail cabinet.
I never liked cocktails. I've owned 3 - Joust, Ms. Pacman, and a Space Invaders. I finally gave up and realized the ergonomics didn't work for me. I could see the ergonomics of the A1UP's being problematic for some, but I've seen quite a few happy with the overall size and weight.
I've owned 2 cocktail cabinets, Ms. Pac-man, and Gyruss. As bad as that format is.
The next project that's coming up for me is just that. A muticade cocktail, with
different controls on both sides.
So yes, I will put up with the neck strain, and hopefully the control panels will be at a decent angle, so the wrist strain won't be there.
Arcade 1UP content - Their models aren't coming out until the fall of 2019. Also, who knows how much they will cost,
or how much more flimsy they will be.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NVb1RNF/arc1-cocktail.jpg)
I can't wait. So i'm getting my kit from someone already selling them here. I already sent off the diagrams for the controls,
and still waiting to hear back if it's possible or not.
later
-1
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 02:16:14 am
I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play
Funny.... you could be describing a cocktail cabinet.
I never liked cocktails. I've owned 3 - Joust, Ms. Pacman, and a Space Invaders. I finally gave up and realized the ergonomics didn't work for me. I could see the ergonomics of the A1UP's being problematic for some, but I've seen quite a few happy with the overall size and weight.
Well, that lady was standing. No one tries to play a cocktail standing.
Post by: ark_ader on December 30, 2018, 04:41:38 am
I saw a guy at Frys today sitting in a chair playing the 12-1 game on a riser. I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play Rampage that wasn’t on a riser. Neither looked like they were having fun.
I was there buying parts to fix my full-sized Multipede and my Missile Command. Both are up and running now, and I couldn’t be more chuffed.
I cannot just see you going to Frys to buy arcade parts. The only arcade parts are those crappy push buttons for $5. So I think you were there to play those 1Up Arcade machines,,,, Admit it!
Post by: RandyT on December 30, 2018, 06:10:49 am
Right now people are still playing with their new toys, but eventually they will either lose interest and throw it on Craig's list or want something more serious and turn to sites like this for help. It's just too early right now.
Just to provide some perspective, the very same scenario happens with many things, including VR. Over a year ago, I bought a cheap, used PSVR, which could be considered "toy grade" VR, because I wasn't sure if I cared for the whole idea. It worked well enough to peak my interest, so I started playing with the hacks, which led me to buy a high-end gaming PC. Once the possibilities were exhausted from that angle, I realized that combo wasn't going to get me where I wanted to be, based on my interest in the technology. So I pre-ordered the Samsung Odyssey and while waiting for it's release, found a deal on a used VIVE setup. I now have all of that in a dedicated space in my home. I also frequent forums dedicated to VR, and have made at least one major contribution to that community, which has even prompted more than one prominent YouTuber in that field to make a video devoted to it. And that from someone who 2 years ago thought he couldn't be convinced anything was worth gaming with something strapped to your face :).
The same can be said for my racing rig, which started with a cheap and flimsy plastic wheel peripheral, clamped to a table and connected to a video game console. 3K and a couple of years later, I have something unique which would keep driving game aficionados grinning ear-to-ear from the moment they sat down in it.
It's a natural progression that is human in nature and very old to the point that we even have idioms for it. "Dipping a toe", "getting your feet wet", etc. The thing is, this doesn't happen with people who aren't sure they even want to "enter the waters", so having an option which is the least daunting will be the most effective in coaxing them in. Sure, some will jump back out almost immediately, but many will enjoy the experience and go farther, and a few may even go on to become Olympic swimmers :).
Post by: chrisdfw on December 30, 2018, 11:33:34 am
Whether in business or hobbies, I hate when someone bashes something without providing a better solution.
It appears 1up did the best they could and ultimately it will show as a failed gamble. In order to sell it retail, they had to make their own cheaper joysticks and buttons and keep the weight and materials to a minimum to hit that price point. Unfortunately, at $250 or $300 they sold only a few units during black Friday and barely a trickle after. I know that for a fact because I see the same quantity online and in store. People could get a ps4 or xbox cheaper.
I appreciate their effort and it's a shame the demand for nostalgia isn't higher. I hope the failure isnt so bad that it makes future attempts unlikely but that is probably it.
So for those bashing these units, what is the alternative for someone that has little time, little room, no real woodworking tools or skills, and only $200 to $300 to spend on bringing back something similar to what they remember from 35 to 40 years ago?
What could 1up have done differently?
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 11:53:46 am
I saw a guy at Frys today sitting in a chair playing the 12-1 game on a riser. I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play Rampage that wasn’t on a riser. Neither looked like they were having fun.
I was there buying parts to fix my full-sized Multipede and my Missile Command. Both are up and running now, and I couldn’t be more chuffed.
I cannot just see you going to Frys to buy arcade parts. The only arcade parts are those crappy push buttons for $5. So I think you were there to play those 1Up Arcade machines,,,, Admit it!
I was there to buy an LS257 chip and some sockets, dolt.
Post by: pbj on December 30, 2018, 01:30:53 pm
Post by: Malenko on December 30, 2018, 01:35:02 pm
You know what I hate?I think its fair to complain about the product even if Im not going to think of a better business venture. Im judging them as a consumer, not a business competitor.
Whether in business or hobbies, I hate when someone bashes something without providing a better solution.
It appears 1up did the best they could and ultimately it will show as a failed gamble. In order to sell it retail, they had to make their own cheaper joysticks and buttons and keep the weight and materials to a minimum to hit that price point. Unfortunately, at $250 or $300 they sold only a few units during black Friday and barely a trickle after. I know that for a fact because I see the same quantity online and in store. People could get a ps4 or xbox cheaper.
I appreciate their effort and it's a shame the demand for nostalgia isn't higher. I hope the failure isnt so bad that it makes future attempts unlikely but that is probably it.
So for those bashing these units, what is the alternative for someone that has little time, little room, no real woodworking tools or skills, and only $200 to $300 to spend on bringing back something similar to what they remember from 35 to 40 years ago?
What could 1up have done differently?
They should have used better components instead of buying the cheapest to manufacture stuff. The parts were not made in house and likely would have cost more if they did.
The art being printed on unprotected sticker paper was a joke.
I do have an issue with this though:
"So for those bashing these units, what is the alternative for someone that has little time, little room, no real woodworking tools or skills, and only $200 to $300 to spend on bringing back something similar to what they remember from 35 to 40 years ago? "
First off you are paring it down way too far. If the market is only for people with no room, skills, time or money....that's a terrible demographic to aim for.
Honestly, I think they should have made "JAKKS Style" controllers that plug into the TV, but not little cheap plastic pieces of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- but like Fight Stick sized with actual arcade hardware. A Happ Comp stick and 10 buttons is like $20 retail. Buy a million and you get a price break. They could be prebuilt and still take up less space than an unbuilt mini cab. I'd drop $100 on a fight stick sized box with a trackball and 12 trackball games. I still love me some Crystal Castles.
What could 1up have done differently? Let's start with not using deceptive marketing practices. All of the promo material makes it look like an average sized adult male is slightly taller than the cab. They could also take pictures of the people playing all the different cabs instead of crudely photoshopping the control panel under their hands. The asteroids cover is unintentionally hilarious.
Post by: pbj on December 30, 2018, 01:39:10 pm
Post by: Nephasth on December 30, 2018, 01:46:24 pm
You can already not buy fight sticks with games built into them....
Now a company just needs to offer a riser so they can easily be played as pedestals...
Post by: pbj on December 30, 2018, 01:55:59 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 02:07:04 pm
Enjoy Frys while you can, that's clearly a chain on its way out. I do enjoy the increasingly desperate promotional emails they're sending me. Now it's down to coupons to get a disgusting turkey sandwich for $2. A $9 value, they assure me.
Yeah, they used to have a ton of Molex connectors and wire... now it’s like they stock that stuff yearly. It’s a ghost town.
Post by: RandyT on December 30, 2018, 02:15:39 pm
If the market is only for people with no room, skills, time or money....that's a terrible demographic to aim for.
If you want WalMart to buy 200 tons worth, that's the demographic you have to aim for. :) Can you buy higher-end anything there?
Post by: Malenko on December 30, 2018, 03:11:15 pm
You can already not buy fight sticks with games built into them....
Licensed ones? Exactly.
The ones you are talking about are made with the same cheap parts as the A1Ups as well.
Post by: opt2not on December 30, 2018, 03:34:58 pm
You know what I hate?There has been better solutions suggested in this thread. Unfortunately there’s so much to sift through, you might have missed it.
Whether in business or hobbies, I hate when someone bashes something without providing a better solution.
It appears 1up did the best they could and ultimately it will show as a failed gamble. In order to sell it retail, they had to make their own cheaper joysticks and buttons and keep the weight and materials to a minimum to hit that price point. Unfortunately, at $250 or $300 they sold only a few units during black Friday and barely a trickle after. I know that for a fact because I see the same quantity online and in store. People could get a ps4 or xbox cheaper.Cost was not the problem, if what I’m seeing here is a value comparison. Besides, these cabs are not supposed to compete with modern consoles so that’s kind of a weird comparison.
No, these cabs had a lot of hype before customers actually got their hands on it. The Street Fighter version was debuted at Evo this year on the show floor and almost every one of those fighting game fans said they felt cheap, and had problems with the LCD viewing angles. A1Up tried pitching these to people who are familiar with quality controls, and they got exposed from the jump. you can’t cheap-out on controls! That was the first sign of exposing the creators of these cabs as not really understanding the arcade experience. One of the primary pillars of the arcade experience IS the controls!
I appreciate their effort and it's a shame the demand for nostalgia isn't higher. I hope the failure isnt so bad that it makes future attempts unlikely but that is probably it.The demand for nostalgia is still here. The shame is in their execution and cost cutting decisions. For that, I cannot appreciate their “attempt” because their QA problems could have been avoided if A. They actually had experience with arcade cabs , B. didn’t only focus on their bottom-line.
So for those bashing these units, what is the alternative for someone that has little time, little room, no real woodworking tools or skills, and only $200 to $300 to spend on bringing back something similar to what they remember from 35 to 40 years ago?First, many people would spend up to an extra $100 to replace the cheap controls to get a more authentic feel. So let’s say the budget is closer to $400 at the end of the day.
Secondly, let’s say the “little room” a person might have is enough space to assemble these cabs.
Let’s assume that person doesn’t have the space to paint as well.
So, under tat criteria, it’s been suggested in this thread that pre-cut CNC’d cabinet kits would be the best way to go. You can get a high quality kit that assembles similar to these, and can get you 70% there. Can’t paint? No problem! Some kit suppliers have no-paint solutions like laminate surfaces that eliminates the need to paint. Wiring can be easily achieved with some research. Let’s face facts, if you came to this site to learn how to mod these cabinets, you can come here to learn how to properly wire one from scratch.
If you’re creative with acquiring parts, secondhand can be cheap and still be higher quality than what comes with these cabs.
What could 1up have done differently?- not cheap out on parts, especially the monitor and controls
- actually QA the parts that comes with it (there are numerous reports of bad lcd’s/dead-pixels, damaged wood, rub-away graphics)
- properly and ethically market these things
- use a JAMMA wiring standard (they must know that people are going to want to mod these things. Why not embrace that to their advantage and allow an easier time to do so)
- have a constancy between their prototypes and production units that have been vetted by people who understand the arcade experience
- not rely on an outdated version of mame. Especially with the dodgy licensing these emulators adhere to. Look at what Nintendo did, they built their own emulator for their classic consoles, no doubt by using “free” emulator
source as a starting point.
Post by: leapinlew on December 30, 2018, 04:01:15 pm
Post by: opt2not on December 30, 2018, 04:10:01 pm
Post by: RandyT on December 30, 2018, 04:31:36 pm
First, many people would spend up to an extra $100 to replace the cheap controls to get a more authentic feel. So let’s say the budget is closer to $400 at the end of the day.
Unfortunately, many people will not. They just see the higher cost of entry, and having no idea what will suffice for them, are spooked away. And those same people, once in at the lower price point, are more likely to incrementally pay for upgrades.
The rampant success (monetarily speaking) of this model in modern video game offerings is a testament to the effectiveness of this marketing tactic. An extreme example would be Fortnight, which has raked in an estimated 2 billion in profit. Not bad for a free game. Meanwhile, Quake Champions languished with a dearth of players at ~$40 until they went to the incremental model and started making it free. But by then, it was too late.
Post by: opt2not on December 30, 2018, 05:01:55 pm
Well if that was the model A1Up is going for, they still failed from the sheer fact that this model only works by hooking customers into a quality experience. Like it or not, Fortnite is a high quality game from its baseline. Though not my cup o’ tea, it still is a good 3rd person shooter with high quality art and game play. (I went to Epic’s recent Unreal dev day and they showed off Fortnite’s production aspects and I was really impressed on how tight and AAA their pipeline was for creating the maps, characters and micro transaction components)First, many people would spend up to an extra $100 to replace the cheap controls to get a more authentic feel. So let’s say the budget is closer to $400 at the end of the day.
Unfortunately, many people will not. They just see the higher cost of entry, and having no idea what will suffice for them, are spooked away. And those same people, once in at the lower price point, are more likely to incrementally pay for upgrades.
The rampant success (monetarily speaking) of this model in modern video game offerings is a testament to the effectiveness of this marketing tactic. An extreme example would be Fortnight, which has raked in an estimated 2 billion in profit. Not bad for a free game. Meanwhile, Quake Champions languished with a dearth of players at ~$40 until they went to the incremental model and started making it free. But by then, it was too late.
The only way the incremental model works is when your baseline is enough to merit a loyal consumer base.
Unfortunately the “base” of this product is substandard. Again, made apparent by the various quality issues.
Post by: leapinlew on December 30, 2018, 06:29:38 pm
Unfortunately the “base” of this product is substandard. Again, made apparent by the various quality issues.
Quality issues might be more of a BYOAC thing. The spinner is terrible, the trackball is fine and the joysticks are YMMV. The LCD is lower end but is still decent. The box itself is ikea quality. The control panel is piss poor but the remedy is acceptable. That's my take.
As far as user reported issues, I see a good amount of happy users. I also see a good amount of DOA units.
Post by: negative1 on December 30, 2018, 08:20:30 pm
not including clones [search EWWWTUBE for it]:
(https://i.postimg.cc/65xDGVCp/arc1up-mame105.jpg)
of course, you have to get the roms yourself, they are not on there.
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|ROM|Game Name|Joystick Directions|Buttons|Trackball|Dial|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|1944|1944: The Loop Master (USA 000620)|8|2|0|0|
|alienar|Alien Arena|8|2|0|0|
|astdelux|Asteroids Deluxe (rev 3)|0|5|0|0|
|astdelux1|Asteroids Deluxe (rev 1)|0|5|0|0|
|astdelux2|Asteroids Deluxe (rev 2)|0|5|0|0|
|asterock|Asterock (Sidam bootleg of Asteroids)|0|5|0|0|
|asteroid|Asteroids (rev 4)|0|5|0|0|
|asteroid1|Asteroids (rev 1)|0|5|0|0|
|asteroid2|Asteroids (rev 2)|0|5|0|0|
|asteroidb|Asteroids (bootleg on Lunar Lander hardware)|0|5|0|0|
|atetris|Tetris (set 1)|3|1|0|0|
|atetrisa|Tetris (set 2)|3|1|0|0|
|atetrisb|Tetris (bootleg set 1)|3|1|0|0|
|atetrisb2|Tetris (bootleg set 2)|3|1|0|0|
|atetrisc|Tetris (cocktail set 1)|3|1|0|0|
|atetrisc2|Tetris (cocktail set 2)|3|1|0|0|
|carpolo|Car Polo|0|3|0|1|
|caterplr|Caterpillar (bootleg of Centipede)|8|1|1|0|
|ccastles|Crystal Castles (version 4)|3|0|1|0|
|centipdb|"Centipede (bootleg set 1)"|3|0|1|0|
|centipdd|Centipede Dux (hack)|3|0|1|0|
|centiped|Centipede (revision 4)|3|0|1|0|
|centiped2|Centipede (revision 2)|3|0|1|0|
|centtime|"Centipede (1 player timed)"|3|0|1|0|
|ddsom|Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Euro 960619)|8|4|0|0|
|defender|Defender (Red label)|2|5|0|0|
|defenderb|Defender (Blue label)|2|5|0|0|
|defenderg|Defender (Green label)|2|5|0|0|
|defenderw|Defender (White label)|2|5|0|0|
|fireone|Fire One|0|2|0|1|
|gaunt2|Gauntlet II (4 player)|8|2|0|0|
|gaunt22p|"Gauntlet II (2 Players rev 2)"|8|2|0|0|
|gaunt22p1|"Gauntlet II (2 Players rev 1)"|8|2|0|0|
|gaunt22pg|Gauntlet II (2 Players -German)|8|2|0|0|
|gaunt2g|Gauntlet II (4 player - German)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet|Gauntlet (revision 14)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2p|"Gauntlet (2 Player rev 6)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2pg|"Gauntlet (2 Player German rev 4)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2pg1|"Gauntlet (2 Player German rev 1)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2pj|"Gauntlet (2 Player Japanese rev 5)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2pj2|"Gauntlet (2 Player Japanese rev 2)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlet2pr3|"Gauntlet (2 Player Japanese rev 3)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletg|"Gauntlet (German rev 10)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletgr3|"Gauntlet (German rev 3)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletgr6|"Gauntlet (German rev 6)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletgr8|"Gauntlet (German rev 8)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletj|"Gauntlet (Japanese rev 13)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletj12|"Gauntlet (Japanese rev 12)"|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr1|Gauntlet (revision 1)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr2|Gauntlet (revision 2)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr4|Gauntlet (revision 4)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr5|Gauntlet (revision 5)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr7|Gauntlet (revision 7)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntletr9|Gauntlet (revision 9)|8|2|0|0|
|gauntlets|Gauntlet (Spanish)|8|2|0|0|
|gravitar|Gravitar (version 1)|2|5|0|0|
|gravitar2|Gravitar (version 2)|2|5|0|0|
|gridlee|Gridlee|0|1|1|0|
|joust|Joust (White/Green label)|2|1|0|0|
|joust2|Joust 2 - Survival of the Fittest (revision 2)|2|1|0|0|
|joustr|Joust (Solid Red label)|2|1|0|0|
|joustwr|Joust (White/Red label)|2|1|0|0|
|liberatr|Liberator (set 1)|0|2|1|0|
|liberatr2|Liberator (set 2)|0|2|1|0|
|llander|Lunar Lander (rev 2)|0|5|0|0|
|llander1|Lunar Lander (rev 1)|0|5|0|0|
|magworm|"Magic Worm (bootleg of Centipede set 1)"|0|1|1|0|
|mazeinv|Maze Invaders (prototype)|8|2|0|0|
|megaforc|Mega Force (World)|8|1|0|0|
|meteorho|Meteor (bootleg of Asteroids)|0|5|0|0|
|meteorts|Meteorites (VGG bootleg of Asteroids)|0|5|0|0|
|mhavoc|Major Havoc (rev 3)|0|2|0|1|
|mhavoc2|Major Havoc (rev 2)|0|2|0|1|
|mhavocp|Major Havoc (prototype)|0|2|0|1|
|mhavocrv|Major Havoc - Return to Vax|0|2|0|1|
|millipdd|Millipede Dux (hack)|0|1|1|0|
|milliped|Millipede|0|1|1|0|
|millpac|Millpac (bootleg of Centipede)|0|1|1|0|
|missile|Missile Command (rev 3)|0|3|1|0|
|missile2|Missile Command (rev 2)|0|3|1|0|
|quantum|Quantum (rev 2)|0|0|0|1|
|quantum1|Quantum (rev 1)|0|0|0|1|
|quantump|Quantum (Prototype)|0|0|0|1|
|rampage|"Rampage (Rev 3 8/27/86)"|4|2|0|0|
|robby|The Adventures of Robby Roto!|4|1|0|0|
|sbrkout|Super Breakout (rev 04)|0|1|0|1|
|sidetrac|Side Trak|4|1|0|0|
|spectar|Spectar (revision 3)|4|1|0|0|
|starfir2|Star Fire 2|4|1|0|0|
|starfire|Star Fire (set 1)|4|1|0|0|
|starfirea|Star Fire (set 2)|4|1|0|0|
|starforc|Star Force|8|1|0|0|
|targ|Targ|4|1|0|0|
|teetert|Teeter Torture (prototype)|0|1|0|1|
|tempest|"Tempest (rev 3 revised hardware)"|0|0|2|0|
|tempest1|Tempest (rev 1)|0|2|0|1|
|tempest2|Tempest (rev 2)|0|2|0|1|
|tempest3|Tempest (rev 3)|0|2|0|1|
|temptube|Tempest Tubes|0|2|0|1|
|vindctr2|Vindicators Part II (rev 3)|8|4|0|0|
|vindctr2r1|Vindicators Part II (rev 1)|8|4|0|0|
|vindctr2r2|Vindicators Part II (rev 2)|8|4|0|0|
|warlords|Warlords|0|1|0|1|
|wrally|"World Rally (Version 1.0 Checksum 0E56)8"|8|2|0|0|
later
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Post by: leapinlew on December 30, 2018, 08:25:33 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 08:41:26 pm
I'll be keeping an eye for a A1UP to go on sale cheap, but I would jump on a $50 unit to use as a shell. I'll be one of those guys who throws another couple hundred into it so I can have yet another cabinet capable of playing Galaga. I suspect I won't have to wait too long. I'll be sure to not post a project announcement! :)
Why not? There’s people here that would probably enjoy seeing what you do with it.
Salty Lew is not my favorite Lew. ;)
Post by: wp34 on December 30, 2018, 09:13:49 pm
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 10:03:56 pm
I quite like "telling it like it is" Lew. :cheers:
I get the feeling you and Lew hate us all, so birds of a feather and all that :cheers:
Post by: leapinlew on December 30, 2018, 10:18:49 pm
I quite like "telling it like it is" Lew. :cheers:
I get the feeling you and Lew hate us all, so birds of a feather and all that :cheers:
I literally just said I liked you in an earlier comment you sunabitch. What's so freakin hard to understand you lovable bastard?! ;)
A difference of opinion is fine. It's what makes the world go 'round. I try to not get emotionally invested and I try to keep it in my mind that real people are on the other side of the keyboard. I'm pretty naive to the fact that others might be getting emotionally involved, so you would have no problems sneaking a punch in on me if we were ever in the same place.
Post by: yotsuya on December 30, 2018, 10:28:50 pm
I quite like "telling it like it is" Lew. :cheers:
I get the feeling you and Lew hate us all, so birds of a feather and all that :cheers:
I literally just said I liked you in an earlier comment you sunabitch. What's so freakin hard to understand you lovable bastard?! ;)
A difference of opinion is fine. It's what makes the world go 'round. I try to not get emotionally invested and I try to keep it in my mind that real people are on the other side of the keyboard. I'm pretty naive to the fact that others might be getting emotionally involved, so you would have no problems sneaking a punch in on me if we were ever in the same place.
You know I love you Lew, but I picture you flipping off the screen every time you click “Post”. :-)
I’ll just say this about these cabinets, and it will be the last thing I ever say about them. I think they’re perfect if you want to buy them for kids, they’re fine if you’re an adult you don’t really wanna spend the time building a project, but I as an arcade collector and restorer don’t feel any obligation to think these are some kind of revolutionary product or the coolest thing since sliced bread. I think that’s where some of the objections to them stems from. It’s like Kaneda’s bedroom - just because I collect games too doesn’t mean I have to think that his sad story isn’t anything more than a sad, cautionary tale.
Anyhoo, can’t wait to see everyone at ZapCon!! Whoooo!!
Post by: opt2not on December 30, 2018, 11:20:48 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 31, 2018, 01:04:52 am
For whatever reason, all the Walmarts around me have gone back up to $299 for their arcade1ups. I'll check every couple days, but I suspect I'll eventually stumble across them in yard sale or something.
Post by: ark_ader on December 31, 2018, 01:32:20 am
There are people here that’ll tell you to ignore the thread if you disagree with them. That’s where I look at it as a challenge, because ain’t nobody gonna tell me to not speak my mind.
Well thanks for telling us that. I wouldn't have guess that from reading your posts. We get it. You do not like the 1Up Arcade. You do need to reiterate and declare the obvious trolling. :cheers:
For whatever reason, all the Walmarts around me have gone back up to $299 for their arcade1ups. I'll check every couple days, but I suspect I'll eventually stumble across them in yard sale or something.
My guess is that people have been on you tube, seen the mods, word has gone out and demand for these cabs are getting stronger. The recent Playstation console has dropped $50, possibly due to bad reviews, and modding them doesn't seem to perk up interest, as well as reviews on "why did I buy this", so there is clearly a trigger in the arcade community (instilled or otherwise) that is more on the side of conservative, than opportunity.
Someones garbage is another person's treasure perhaps?
Post by: ark_ader on December 31, 2018, 01:37:34 am
I saw a guy at Frys today sitting in a chair playing the 12-1 game on a riser. I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play Rampage that wasn’t on a riser. Neither looked like they were having fun.
I was there buying parts to fix my full-sized Multipede and my Missile Command. Both are up and running now, and I couldn’t be more chuffed.
I cannot just see you going to Frys to buy arcade parts. The only arcade parts are those crappy push buttons for $5. So I think you were there to play those 1Up Arcade machines,,,, Admit it!
I was there to buy an LS257 chip and some sockets, dolt.
Sure you did. You found them? Did you ask the staff where they were? Did they look at you as if you were crazy? You can bring that 1Up Arcade you bought to the ZapCon, its OK, nobody will laugh.
Post by: opt2not on December 31, 2018, 01:50:15 am
Well thanks for telling us that. I wouldn't have guess that from reading your posts. We get it. You do not like the 1Up Arcade. You do need to reiterate and declare the obvious trolling. :cheers:No problem! You are very welcome. I know some people are a bit slower than others here, but I find repetition can help all denominators. :cheers:
Post by: quarterback on December 31, 2018, 02:44:17 am
For whatever reason, all the Walmarts around me have gone back up to $299 for their arcade1ups. I'll check every couple days, but I suspect I'll eventually stumble across them in yard sale or something.
My guess is that people have been on you tube, seen the mods, word has gone out and demand for these cabs are getting stronger.
Some Walmarts are still trying to clear these out. Dude in zip code 29070 just bought a SF2 yesterday for $100 and brickseek shows that they have Galaga at the same price.
Post by: yotsuya on December 31, 2018, 07:41:38 am
I saw a guy at Frys today sitting in a chair playing the 12-1 game on a riser. I also saw a woman hunched over uncomfortably trying to play Rampage that wasn’t on a riser. Neither looked like they were having fun.
I was there buying parts to fix my full-sized Multipede and my Missile Command. Both are up and running now, and I couldn’t be more chuffed.
I cannot just see you going to Frys to buy arcade parts. The only arcade parts are those crappy push buttons for $5. So I think you were there to play those 1Up Arcade machines,,,, Admit it!
I was there to buy an LS257 chip and some sockets, dolt.
Sure you did. You found them? Did you ask the staff where they were? Did they look at you as if you were crazy? You can bring that 1Up Arcade you bought to the ZapCon, its OK, nobody will laugh.
Dude, your attempt at humor is as weak as your suntan. Please stop.
Post by: wp34 on December 31, 2018, 09:05:17 am
I quite like "telling it like it is" Lew. :cheers:
I get the feeling you and Lew hate us all, so birds of a feather and all that :cheers:
I'm sorry you feel that way. That has certainly not been my intent.
Post by: yotsuya on December 31, 2018, 09:13:19 am
I quite like "telling it like it is" Lew. :cheers:
I get the feeling you and Lew hate us all, so birds of a feather and all that :cheers:
I'm sorry you feel that way. That has certainly not been my intent.
Don’t worry, my friend - that was said tongue-in-cheek (that’s why I added the cheers). We all know Lew just wants to punch MikeA, not all of us.
I kid, I kid!!
Post by: Mike A on December 31, 2018, 09:14:49 am
Post by: Ginsu Victim on December 31, 2018, 09:20:34 am
https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ele/d/oklahoma-city-pac-man-pac-man-plus/6779115961.html
That's $325...
...for an Arcade1up...
...with a missing balltop....
..."graphics on controller board (are) faded"...
...and condition listed as "Excellent"
(https://images.craigslist.org/00u0u_iFLbYmLatRM_1200x900.jpg)
Post by: yotsuya on December 31, 2018, 09:23:52 am
And I agree with Opt - I think the lack of quality control is ultimately what will bite A1Up in the end. Any sort of rigorous testing would have shown the CP wear issue. That’s bad for business when you see displays in stores that look that way. I’ve also seen issues where the marquee graphic was applied upside down, meaning the marquee is useless.
Post by: leapinlew on December 31, 2018, 09:58:07 am
Pretty sure it'll make our resident MK expert Malenkos head explode, but I'm a more casual MK player. I'll probably get this if it comes out. The kids are loving Mortal Kombat right now and I could see them enjoying this cabinet for a few years. I could build this but for $300, it would be hard to accomplish.
Post by: smass on December 31, 2018, 10:28:40 am
That said, I would not touch one of these for more than $150. As much as I like the ones I have, for me $150 is the sweet spot for the form factor and art package vs. building from scratch. At $300 plus tax, if I had to have an MKII, I would build it. Or look into buying a "blank" cab off Ali Express. There are several vendors that seem to be selling an arcade1up clone. Although with Ali, its a gamble of course. $100 or less shipped for a flat packed blank of this form factor would be intriguing..
Post by: Malenko on December 31, 2018, 10:58:23 am
Pretty sure it'll make our resident MK expert Malenkos head explode, but I'm a more casual MK player.
MK3Fan is more of an expert than I am. I do know enough about the hardware to know there's no way they'll put something powerful enough to emulate MK4 and that the run button is missing from their mock up.
Those mock ups were also on the prototype flyer along with the SFII cab that had Strider and Final Fight on it. I think the Asteroids prototype had Qbert on it too. They also photoshopped oversized screens :)
Post by: RandyT on December 31, 2018, 11:34:52 am
I think the lack of quality control is ultimately what will bite A1Up in the end. Any sort of rigorous testing would have shown the CP wear issue. That’s bad for business when you see displays in stores that look that way. I’ve also seen issues where the marquee graphic was applied upside down, meaning the marquee is useless.
This is a simple case of the factory in China meeting a price point and delivery schedule. I'm sure the prototypes performed fabulously, and looked the part. Then, the pressure went up to deliver before the holidays, the factory started cutting corners, something probably changed in either the materials or the plant doing the printing and the QC people were put on a different job. The boxes were packed and never opened until they sat in your living room.
Seriously, the Chinese business model seems to be to ship everything and deal with the fallout afterward. And unless you own the factory, they always seem to win the battle that comes later because they know you aren't sending them back, and you certainly can't get it cheaper elsewhere. This is "shopping on the cheap in China 101".
Post by: smass on December 31, 2018, 01:08:55 pm
Post by: leapinlew on December 31, 2018, 02:30:42 pm
I think just about everyone goes through a phase thinking this hobby could be financially self sustaining, if not profitable.
Post by: Nephasth on December 31, 2018, 03:22:12 pm
I think just about everyone goes through a phase thinking this hobby could be financially self sustaining, if not profitable.
Well, the hobby does teach us many skills, which in turn can be profitable if one wanted to go that route.
Post by: Ond on December 31, 2018, 04:21:06 pm
I think just about everyone goes through a phase thinking this hobby could be financially self sustaining, if not profitable.
Well, the hobby does teach us many skills, which in turn can be profitable if one wanted to go that route.
Like you're own cool darts club!
Post by: Nephasth on December 31, 2018, 04:24:59 pm
Post by: ark_ader on January 01, 2019, 02:17:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5kQFK3avo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5kQFK3avo)
I bet Haze fells like a real muppet now :laugh2:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/Gonzo_the_Great.jpg/220px-Gonzo_the_Great.jpg)
Post by: opt2not on January 01, 2019, 02:34:19 am
Post by: negative1 on January 01, 2019, 08:31:35 am
I hear next year they (1Up Arcades) are going to make cocktail cabinets.
I bet Haze fells like a real muppet now :laugh2:
reported for posting a video from last august... seriously?
they're coming out in fall of 2019 if at all.
*NOTE : the reporting part was just a joke - didn't really report it.
later
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Post by: DaOld Man on January 01, 2019, 09:52:27 am
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Post by: MaseMan on January 01, 2019, 10:12:19 am
While we are on the rumor mill, several sources have indicated that the 2nd series will be announced in March and will include MKII, Simpsons, and TMNT. Those three would make perfect sense as they all have mass pop culture appeal.
Will those latter two be actual four player cabinets?
Post by: smass on January 01, 2019, 11:51:32 am
While we are on the rumor mill, several sources have indicated that the 2nd series will be announced in March and will include MKII, Simpsons, and TMNT. Those three would make perfect sense as they all have mass pop culture appeal.
Will those latter two be actual four player cabinets?
No idea. With the same form factor I can't see how you could pull off four player. 3-player on the Rampage cab is already cramped.
Post by: chrisdfw on January 01, 2019, 12:09:45 pm
After reading these posts and seeing some pictures you guys posted showing these cabs after wear and tear, I dont think I will mess with them.
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Retro style arcades already exist near many metro areas and barely or don't survive. They often do a pay by hour free play service or just birthday parties.
The draw to the original arcades was doing something you couldnt mimic at home. When 2d games could be played at home reasonably well arcades upped the anti with 3d and large screens and gimmicks like racing networked cabs and custom controls like guns. Much of it migrated to ticket redemption games.
Now that kids and adults can do classic games on phones and everything else on home consoles there is nothing to draw them to a room of large cabinets.
The only way to give my kids the classic arcade experience I had would be to move to an island devoid of technology, give them a $5 a week allowance, and let them ride their bikes to a classic arcade room a few miles away. Hmmmm....doesnt sound that bad.
Post by: leapinlew on January 01, 2019, 12:33:00 pm
After reading these posts and seeing some pictures you guys posted showing these cabs after wear and tear, I dont think I will mess with them.
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Retro style arcades already exist near many metro areas and barely or don't survive. They often do a pay by hour free play service or just birthday parties.
The draw to the original arcades was doing something you couldnt mimic at home. When 2d games could be played at home reasonably well arcades upped the anti with 3d and large screens and gimmicks like racing networked cabs and custom controls like guns. Much of it migrated to ticket redemption games.
Now that kids and adults can do classic games on phones and everything else on home consoles there is nothing to draw them to a room of large cabinets.
The only way to give my kids the classic arcade experience I had would be to move to an island devoid of technology, give them a $5 a week allowance, and let them ride their bikes to a classic arcade room a few miles away. Hmmmm....doesnt sound that bad.
That's so true! My kids won't be able to experience the same thing I did, and that's just fine. They'll grow nostalgic for their own stuff. I can't tell you how many attract screens I watched and how many times I've watched people play video games.
I think they should go with the 2 player roms of those 4 player games.
Post by: ark_ader on January 01, 2019, 05:21:25 pm
Post by: ark_ader on January 01, 2019, 05:25:17 pm
After reading these posts and seeing some pictures you guys posted showing these cabs after wear and tear, I dont think I will mess with them.
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Retro style arcades already exist near many metro areas and barely or don't survive. They often do a pay by hour free play service or just birthday parties.
The draw to the original arcades was doing something you couldnt mimic at home. When 2d games could be played at home reasonably well arcades upped the anti with 3d and large screens and gimmicks like racing networked cabs and custom controls like guns. Much of it migrated to ticket redemption games.
Now that kids and adults can do classic games on phones and everything else on home consoles there is nothing to draw them to a room of large cabinets.
The only way to give my kids the classic arcade experience I had would be to move to an island devoid of technology, give them a $5 a week allowance, and let them ride their bikes to a classic arcade room a few miles away. Hmmmm....doesnt sound that bad.
That's so true! My kids won't be able to experience the same thing I did, and that's just fine. They'll grow nostalgic for their own stuff. I can't tell you how many attract screens I watched and how many times I've watched people play video games.
I think they should go with the 2 player roms of those 4 player games.
Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.
Post by: opt2not on January 01, 2019, 05:41:44 pm
Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.Did you do that to your own kids? How’d it work out?
Post by: leapinlew on January 01, 2019, 08:13:23 pm
After reading these posts and seeing some pictures you guys posted showing these cabs after wear and tear, I dont think I will mess with them.
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Retro style arcades already exist near many metro areas and barely or don't survive. They often do a pay by hour free play service or just birthday parties.
The draw to the original arcades was doing something you couldnt mimic at home. When 2d games could be played at home reasonably well arcades upped the anti with 3d and large screens and gimmicks like racing networked cabs and custom controls like guns. Much of it migrated to ticket redemption games.
Now that kids and adults can do classic games on phones and everything else on home consoles there is nothing to draw them to a room of large cabinets.
The only way to give my kids the classic arcade experience I had would be to move to an island devoid of technology, give them a $5 a week allowance, and let them ride their bikes to a classic arcade room a few miles away. Hmmmm....doesnt sound that bad.
That's so true! My kids won't be able to experience the same thing I did, and that's just fine. They'll grow nostalgic for their own stuff. I can't tell you how many attract screens I watched and how many times I've watched people play video games.
I think they should go with the 2 player roms of those 4 player games.
Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.
No, that's not how it works. That was my youth. and while I wax nostalgic for my past, I don't want to deprive them of their present. Sure, they will have good memories of playing the home arcade games with me, but they'll also have fond memories of ticket redemption games, Roblox, Minecraft, and who knows what else.
I'm thankful my parents didn't make me try to re-live their childhood. I'll do the same for my kids. :)
Post by: yotsuya on January 01, 2019, 09:40:18 pm
After reading these posts and seeing some pictures you guys posted showing these cabs after wear and tear, I dont think I will mess with them.
Especially after reading about the cheap controls, and cheap Chinese made.
The reason Im weighing in I suppose, is I wonder if the apparent rise in the arcade appeal could help sustain someone opening a retro style Arcade?
Retro style arcades already exist near many metro areas and barely or don't survive. They often do a pay by hour free play service or just birthday parties.
The draw to the original arcades was doing something you couldnt mimic at home. When 2d games could be played at home reasonably well arcades upped the anti with 3d and large screens and gimmicks like racing networked cabs and custom controls like guns. Much of it migrated to ticket redemption games.
Now that kids and adults can do classic games on phones and everything else on home consoles there is nothing to draw them to a room of large cabinets.
The only way to give my kids the classic arcade experience I had would be to move to an island devoid of technology, give them a $5 a week allowance, and let them ride their bikes to a classic arcade room a few miles away. Hmmmm....doesnt sound that bad.
That's so true! My kids won't be able to experience the same thing I did, and that's just fine. They'll grow nostalgic for their own stuff. I can't tell you how many attract screens I watched and how many times I've watched people play video games.
I think they should go with the 2 player roms of those 4 player games.
Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.
No, that's not how it works. That was my youth. and while I wax nostalgic for my past, I don't want to deprive them of their present. Sure, they will have good memories of playing the home arcade games with me, but they'll also have fond memories of ticket redemption games, Roblox, Minecraft, and who knows what else.
I'm thankful my parents didn't make me try to re-live their childhood. I'll do the same for my kids. :)
I agree with Lew’s post 100%
Post by: ark_ader on January 02, 2019, 03:04:57 am
Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.Did you do that to your own kids? How’d it work out?
The missus and I decided that we wanted our offspring to be more independent and not be relying on us financially. Both of us were used to living very comfortably in our childhood, and it created a negated experience of an interesting life, than those of limited means. Instead of expensive electronics and video games, expeditions on learning to fish and hunt, carpentry and needle work, plumbing and electrical, sailing and scuba. I wanted Tim to be resourceful, to create and fulfill his own needs, than just easily acquiring it. We home schooled, taught electronics, computing and mathematics. Religion and the value to be charitable. Timothy would have been a natural leader and an incredible person to have as a friend. I think it is the skills we learned from our parents and grand parents that are not being taught today, and being supplemented early on with electronic toys and games. Formal schooling and discipline in writing skills, than keyboarding and Wikipedia. You cannot simulate the same experience as we had all those years ago (smart phones vs. pay phones, cinema/library vs. the Internet) but you can try from the beginning and break the circle kids are leaning (or not) today. You can try.
Post by: TOMMYGUN on January 02, 2019, 07:13:42 am
They do have the street fighter 2 cab but at that price i can build something better, still interesting that they sell cabs to self assemble with game in it and artwork, some ppl will be happy to own one of these.
Post by: opt2not on January 02, 2019, 04:04:08 pm
Yeah that’s not happening for us.Sure they can. Take all the technology toys from them and just give them a NES. Kids today are so spoiled. Let them learn the hard way, like us 40 somethings.Did you do that to your own kids? How’d it work out?
The missus and I decided that we wanted our offspring to be more independent and not be relying on us financially. Both of us were used to living very comfortably in our childhood, and it created a negated experience of an interesting life, than those of limited means. Instead of expensive electronics and video games, expeditions on learning to fish and hunt, carpentry and needle work, plumbing and electrical, sailing and scuba. I wanted Tim to be resourceful, to create and fulfill his own needs, than just easily acquiring it. We home schooled, taught electronics, computing and mathematics. Religion and the value to be charitable. Timothy would have been a natural leader and an incredible person to have as a friend. I think it is the skills we learned from our parents and grand parents that are not being taught today, and being supplemented early on with electronic toys and games. Formal schooling and discipline in writing skills, than keyboarding and Wikipedia. You cannot simulate the same experience as we had all those years ago (smart phones vs. pay phones, cinema/library vs. the Internet) but you can try from the beginning and break the circle kids are leaning (or not) today. You can try.
I grew up in poverty for the most of my childhood, living with very limited means, having to scrape and claw for anything I wanted. While I did learn a solid work ethic, I would never want to put my kid through that experience. When rich people say that’s an “interesting lifestyle“, they really don’t understand the struggle, it’s more of a novelty to them.
While I do want our daughter to learn to work hard, value the dollar, stay on her guard, read people (basically the street smarts all poor kids need to learn growing up) I’m not going to force her to live like some pseudo technology rendition of The Amish, forcing her to experience only things from the past.
No, my plan is to get her to appreciate classic games, music and films, and know how media has got to where it has today. I’ll insert and suggest some of the bangers from our time, as well as support the higher quality offerings of today. But I definitely won’t limit her exposure to the present.
These A1Up cabs are not a high quality offering I’d get her to experience. Well, maybe a little exposure to trash products like this might be good, just so she knows the range of bad to good.
Post by: leapinlew on January 02, 2019, 08:04:41 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 02, 2019, 08:38:41 pm
Get her a A1UP! Still better than the consoles arcade collections or the jakk hand helds!
i beg to differ, the pac-man 256 or anniversary version is bar-none, the best tv plug-n-play
i have ever played, since it uses arcade roms, includes killscreens, and is near arcade perfect.
sure the control stick is a little subpar, and its only composite video.
but for $10, its blows away machines 10 times the price, and barring xevious, which would be
better with an 8way stick, the other games are mostly classics with small alterations.
dig dug scrolls, but it doesn't impact gameplay.
later
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Post by: ark_ader on January 02, 2019, 09:54:33 pm
Anyway if you want one of these cab's in Europe you will pay 690 euro on Amazon.de that is 789 dollar and they dont even have every cab available.
They do have the street fighter 2 cab but at that price i can build something better, still interesting that they sell cabs to self assemble with game in it and artwork, some ppl will be happy to own one of these.
Wow that is expensive. I just shipped my buddy in the UK a Street Fighter for $199. He had a pick of what ever version he wanted. :D
Post by: negative1 on January 03, 2019, 02:25:36 pm
with low cost-midrange and expensive options, ranging from $15-$150-$300 and up:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159201.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159201.0.html)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgYrYDyF/marq-game01-full-mp4-snapshot-01-08-2019-01-04-18-44-17.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrTg8smp/marq-game01-full-mp4-snapshot-01-17-2019-01-04-18-44-41.jpg)
total cost : LCD panel + LCD controller + Power supply + Firestick = $(15+$22+$8) + $25 = $70
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Post by: Mr. Peabody on January 04, 2019, 07:12:03 pm
@smass: I love when people include pictures of themselves in their ads. Only from lack of thought did I not think of someone upselling these. I'm curious to see the outcome.
@opt2not: some think we incarnate out of desire for certain experience......by what device, eh?.......the trick is to land in a spot that will allow you to ride this side of the line of street smart.
Post by: opt2not on January 04, 2019, 08:03:44 pm
@opt2not: some think we incarnate out of desire for certain experience......by what device, eh?.......the trick is to land in a spot that will allow you to ride this side of the line of street smart.I’ll have whatever your smoking. :lol
Post by: ark_ader on January 05, 2019, 12:03:01 am
@opt2not: some think we incarnate out of desire for certain experience......by what device, eh?.......the trick is to land in a spot that will allow you to ride this side of the line of street smart.I’ll have whatever your smoking. :lol
No it sounds like Freudian Jive.
So is not smoking but snorting. :lol
Not wanting to sound negative, minus one, but what is that image of Pacman supposed to be? Looks like some Barcade incarnation.
Its really simple. Get a 15" widescreen monitor from the goodwill, give it a good wash and some old spice deodorant, then embed it in the 1Up Arcade marquee. Using a PC just have it set to dual monitor and then have it show what game marquee per what game you are playing. Or if you have some spare cash get a pico projector and do this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQU7EvPbsck)
Post by: jennifer on January 05, 2019, 01:52:49 am
@DaOld Man: arcades come and go, though likely there are more than in a while. Can depend on the demographic, as other ethnic groups tend toward an in-person experience.Teach a fish how to play centipede and you got a really smart fish there.
@smass: I love when people include pictures of themselves in their ads. Only from lack of thought did I not think of someone upselling these. I'm curious to see the outcome.
@opt2not: some think we incarnate out of desire for certain experience......by what device, eh?.......the trick is to land in a spot that will allow you to ride this side of the line of street smart.
Post by: Nephasth on January 05, 2019, 02:11:01 am
@DaOld Man: arcades come and go, though likely there are more than in a while. Can depend on the demographic, as other ethnic groups tend toward an in-person experience.Teach a fish how to play centipede and you got a really smart fish there.
@smass: I love when people include pictures of themselves in their ads. Only from lack of thought did I not think of someone upselling these. I'm curious to see the outcome.
@opt2not: some think we incarnate out of desire for certain experience......by what device, eh?.......the trick is to land in a spot that will allow you to ride this side of the line of street smart.
Get that fish a Centipede. Fishes love Centipede.
Post by: negative1 on January 05, 2019, 09:14:05 am
Not wanting to sound negative, minus one, but what is that image of Pacman supposed to be? Looks like some Barcade incarnation.
Its really simple. Get a 15" widescreen monitor from the goodwill, give it a good wash and some old spice deodorant, then embed it in the 1Up Arcade marquee. Using a PC just have it set to dual monitor and then have it show what game marquee per what game you are playing. Or if you have some spare cash get a pico projector and do this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQU7EvPbsck)
Already mentioned :
1) Reuse laptop
2) Reuse a cheap tablet
I only paid $14 for the LCD panel. It has a much better aspect ratio than
any 15 inch monitor, higher resolution, and doesn't need to be gutted, because all the parts are bare already.
No point in messing with ripping out the guts of a monitor, and i don't want to be electrocuted either.
Anyway, thats the 25-1 level in one pac-man graphical hack playing on modded 1up board. We can load any
graphical ROM hack, or any of the 38 pac-man clones, such as the fast speed ROM, or the harder chip ROM, and
they work. You have to wrestle with the UART, linux, copying and combining ROMS to get it to work though.
Purely done just to say you can, not practical at all.
later
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Post by: Howard_Casto on January 05, 2019, 01:22:26 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2019, 02:13:43 am
1) Golden Tee
2) Final fight
3) Space Invaders
4) Mortal Kombat
5) Karate champ
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Post by: pbj on January 08, 2019, 12:10:29 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2019, 12:16:55 pm
and bartops.
they showed dig dug again next to ghosts n goblins:
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SxvYn52/digdug1up.jpg)
pac-man
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfMd8QnZ/pacmanbar.jpg)
last year, there was dig dug (+2), joust and qbert.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJzTXZsC/bartops.jpg)
no price points or titles for those either.
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Post by: ark_ader on January 08, 2019, 02:55:04 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2019, 03:54:13 pm
Yeah and a Golden T, Asteroids Deluxe, with matching barstools. Better controls, different emulator too. I think the cocktails are decent.
the barstools do look nice:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nVB4F3nG/karate-stools.jpg)
later
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Post by: Nephasth on January 08, 2019, 04:14:06 pm
Post by: opt2not on January 08, 2019, 04:16:47 pm
the barstools do look nice:
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/40/4007de1387c78dae335cb74d02ebce8b56660aa0777d12b8a75208b3e75b479d.jpg)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 08, 2019, 04:17:56 pm
Barstools are 3/4 scale...
My back hurts just looking at them.
Post by: leapinlew on January 08, 2019, 04:38:34 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2019, 08:47:16 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/XxMdgwe.jpg)
galaga in a pac-man box:
(https://i.imgur.com/YWe8kRE.jpg)
Pac-Man and Pac & Pal
Centipede and Missile Command
Space Invaders Original and Space Invaders Color
Dig Dug and Dig Dug 2
Galaga and Galaxian
Ghost 'n Goblins and TBA
later
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Post by: JimmyU on January 08, 2019, 09:35:59 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 08, 2019, 09:57:53 pm
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159252.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159252.0.html)
Post by: negative1 on January 09, 2019, 01:31:35 am
I created a new thread to track Wave 2
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159252.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159252.0.html)
ok, thanks, not sure people can take much more of these as it is though.
also, there is crossover between the titles, and merchandise, so it could be
a little confusing as to what goes where.
later
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Post by: Nephasth on January 09, 2019, 01:53:34 am
ok, thanks, not sure people can take much more of these as it is though.
I dunno... I feel like I'm about 3 of your Wall o' Text posts away before I decide to pull the trigger...
Post by: RandyT on January 09, 2019, 01:10:13 pm
Ok, that "cocktail" is just minuscule. Gonna need a riser for that one too? :dizzy:
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 09, 2019, 01:10:28 pm
The Kensington trackball mice look interesting to me and would be the right size (a little small maybe) to fit onto the control panel - any opinions on trying this set up ?
Post by: opt2not on January 09, 2019, 01:59:14 pm
ok, thanks, not sure people can take much more of these as it is though.Well you shills seem to love it, so why not, lets keep rolling with these threads. I'd be happy to continue inserting "my side of the coin" here.
Trash product wave 2 in full effect. Man you guys are suckers. :lol
Post by: Malenko on January 09, 2019, 03:18:11 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 09, 2019, 05:00:56 pm
ok, thanks, not sure people can take much more of these as it is though.Well you shills seem to love it, so why not, lets keep rolling with these threads. I'd be happy to continue inserting "my side of the coin" here.
Trash product wave 2 in full effect. Man you guys are suckers. :lol
Calling everyone a sucker who likes something you don't... it's getting old.
I think you're missing the point of expressing your opinion and badgering.
Post by: Osirus23 on January 09, 2019, 05:27:19 pm
But the massive influx of people into the hobby will be worth it, I hope byoac's server can handle the traffic from all the new signups. /s
Post by: opt2not on January 09, 2019, 05:48:55 pm
Calling everyone a sucker who likes buying lemons... it's getting old.
I think you're missing the point of expressing your opinion and badgering.
FTFY :cheers:
Post by: yotsuya on January 09, 2019, 05:51:16 pm
Well those look positively Walgreens quality.
But the massive influx of people into the hobby will be worth it, I hope byoac's server can handle the traffic from all the new signups. /s
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/6ad2bcc21c6163d9888c1df8315ffaed.gif)
Post by: Mr. Peabody on January 10, 2019, 02:18:09 am
No it sounds like Freudian Jive.
So is not smoking but snorting. :lol
It's jive only if you believe it.
Post by: ark_ader on January 10, 2019, 09:47:16 am
ok, thanks, not sure people can take much more of these as it is though.Well you shills seem to love it, so why not, lets keep rolling with these threads. I'd be happy to continue inserting "my side of the coin" here.
Trash product wave 2 in full effect. Man you guys are suckers. :lol
Calling everyone a sucker who likes something you don't... it's getting old.
I think you're missing the point of expressing your opinion and badgering.
He has a right to make his same point over and over and over again, knowing that it will change our perception or position. Nothing wrong with that. :lol
I applaud him for his efforts, and it is refreshing to see so much tenacity in an individual in this day and age. He should be encouraged, and embraced for all its worth.
He is a good old badger.
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/40200000/Badger-the-wind-in-the-willows-40274273-400-593.png)
Post by: opt2not on January 10, 2019, 02:02:02 pm
He has a right to make his same point over and over and over again, knowing that it will change our perception or position. Nothing wrong with that. :lolI'll continue to badger about this product as long as you continue to badger Haze every time he puts up a post. He triggers you as much as these trendster cash-in products trigger me. :cheers:
I applaud him for his efforts, and it is refreshing to see so much tenacity in an individual in this day and age. He should be encouraged, and embraced for all its worth.
He is a good old badger.
Post by: leapinlew on January 10, 2019, 03:52:30 pm
He has a right to make his same point over and over and over again, knowing that it will change our perception or position. Nothing wrong with that. :lolI'll continue to badger about this product as long as you continue to badger Haze every time he puts up a post. He triggers you as much as these trendster cash-in products trigger me. :cheers:
I applaud him for his efforts, and it is refreshing to see so much tenacity in an individual in this day and age. He should be encouraged, and embraced for all its worth.
He is a good old badger.
Ark is annoying too. That really your bar? You can do better. :)
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 01:02:40 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190111/148be1b0c5d7c155486b285cd612980f.jpg)
$140.
Post by: Malenko on January 11, 2019, 01:06:44 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on January 11, 2019, 01:08:00 pm
Post by: RandyT on January 11, 2019, 01:34:03 pm
Another component to add to the "Things to replace after getting an A1UP". I'm not sure if any of the original stuff is left.
Yeah, that's just nuts. You really might as well BYO if you are going to do that, or get a bare wood kit which is bigger, stronger, etc...
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 02:09:44 pm
For that moment when your “but it already comes with side art!!!1!” argument starts to lose steam...
For some people, they are really getting into modding these, and for others, they are fine with them stock. No different then the full size toys we play with now.
Post by: JDFan on January 11, 2019, 02:41:19 pm
Thats way too ugly to justify $140 for.
Esp. when you pay $150 for the entire system to start with !
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 03:10:28 pm
Thats way too ugly to justify $140 for.
Esp. when you pay $150 for the entire system to start with !
I put about $600 into a Donkey Kong cabinet I got for free. I spent around $100 for a bartop Tempest arcade artwork. I guess that makes me especially foolish!
...
It's what modders do. It doesn't have to make financial sense. It's part of any hobby.
Post by: RandyT on January 11, 2019, 03:29:43 pm
I spent around $100 for a bartop Tempest arcade artwork. I guess that makes me especially foolish!
Nahh, it would only make you foolish if you bought the unit with great artwork on it already, and that was one of the reasons you paid as much for it as you did ;).
I can't help feeling like the buzz around these units is the proverbial "tempest in a teapot". The communities are very vocal, but when you start looking more closely, quite small. It will be interesting to see whether interest continues to grow, or whether we're seeing a flash that wanes quickly and decisively. Honestly, if they lose the support of Wal-Mart, the company and their plans for future products will probably disappear.
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 03:42:04 pm
I spent around $100 for a bartop Tempest arcade artwork. I guess that makes me especially foolish!
Nahh, it would only make you foolish if you bought the unit with great artwork on it already, and that was one of the reasons you paid as much for it as you did ;).
I can't help feeling like the buzz around these units is the proverbial "tempest in a teapot". The communities are very vocal, but when you start looking more closely, quite small. It will be interesting to see whether interest continues to grow, or whether we're seeing a flash that wanes quickly and decisively. Honestly, if they lose the support of Wal-Mart, the company and their plans for future products will probably disappear.
I think the most they'll ever be is a flash in the pan. Nostalgia isn't really a business model you can count on for long term success.
You Randy, are a saint. I don't know how you deal with all the nit-picky and whiny personalities that consumerism seems to attract.
Post by: opt2not on January 11, 2019, 03:47:50 pm
You Randy, are a saint. I don't know how you deal with all the nit-picky and whiny personalities that this hobby seems to attract.This hobby? How about consumerism in general. Go to any product on Amazon and read the reviews. nit-picking/whining is part of any product, it's naive to think that it only pertains to certain markets.
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 04:13:32 pm
You Randy, are a saint. I don't know how you deal with all the nit-picky and whiny personalities that this hobby seems to attract.This hobby? How about consumerism in general. Go to any product on Amazon and read the reviews. nit-picking/whining is part of any product, it's naive to think that it only pertains to certain markets.
Thanks for taking the time to point that out. Thank goodness you were here!
I'll correct my original post. ::)
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 04:27:18 pm
I spent around $100 for a bartop Tempest arcade artwork. I guess that makes me especially foolish!
Nahh, it would only make you foolish if you bought the unit with great artwork on it already, and that was one of the reasons you paid as much for it as you did ;).
I can't help feeling like the buzz around these units is the proverbial "tempest in a teapot". The communities are very vocal, but when you start looking more closely, quite small. It will be interesting to see whether interest continues to grow, or whether we're seeing a flash that wanes quickly and decisively. Honestly, if they lose the support of Wal-Mart, the company and their plans for future products will probably disappear.
You raise a good point about Wal-Mart, Randy. I mean, they were clearancing these things before the holidays were over. I can’t image they would purchase a large stock without a holiday season looming nearby. I’d be curious to know how they sold. It wasn’t like the NES Classic, where they were hard to get for months.
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 11, 2019, 04:31:49 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 04:34:58 pm
My Walmart never put them on sale. Still 299. Around black Friday they had a stack of them and I think they sold a few but since then they seemingly haven't sold a single unit. I don't know if that would be considered a success or not.
Yeah, I’m curious what the sales, not shipped, numbers are. Also curious why Costco pulled out of selling them.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 11, 2019, 05:02:36 pm
My Walmart never put them on sale. Still 299.
Same here. My local store has never budged on the price and they aren't really selling either.
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 11, 2019, 05:15:36 pm
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 05:20:53 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 06:24:10 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
Many places still have them at $299.
I actually think Wave 2 will be their last release. I'd be surprised if sales are enough to continue another release. I'm really enjoying witnessing the enjoyment many people are getting from these, and I do like some of the accessories.
I suspect before it's all over, I'll have a couple more more machines.
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 06:41:35 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
Many places still have them at $299.
I actually think Wave 2 will be their last release. I'd be surprised if sales are enough to continue another release. I'm really enjoying witnessing the enjoyment many people are getting from these, and I do like some of the accessories.
I suspect before it's all over, I'll have a couple more more machines.
Yeah, but are they selling at $299? Everyone here talks about buying them when the price drops.
I don’t disagree with you on this being the last go ‘round. They should have held back an AAA title like Pac-Man or Galaga for second series.
I’m surprised they’re releasing a Karate Champ, to be honest. It’s one of my favorite games, but I didn’t think it was one people were clamoring for.
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 07:10:52 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
Many places still have them at $299.
I actually think Wave 2 will be their last release. I'd be surprised if sales are enough to continue another release. I'm really enjoying witnessing the enjoyment many people are getting from these, and I do like some of the accessories.
I suspect before it's all over, I'll have a couple more more machines.
Yeah, but are they selling at $299? Everyone here talks about buying them when the price drops.
I don’t disagree with you on this being the last go ‘round. They should have held back an AAA title like Pac-Man or Galaga for second series.
I’m surprised they’re releasing a Karate Champ, to be honest. It’s one of my favorite games, but I didn’t think it was one people were clamoring for.
It's very regional, but they price dropped so quickly, I think many people are waiting for the price to drop. I did. On their facebook group, there was lots of happy owners at $299, and then reports started coming in about price drops at Wal-mart and then the group became more focused on the price.
Did enough of them sell at $299? I don't know. I suspect not since some stores started lowering prices.
I'm a big Karate Champ fan too. I never could get the hang of evade. It doesn't work so well with 8 ways. I don't suspect it will sell well and it's not a control scheme that will allow them to add many other games.
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 07:14:03 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
Many places still have them at $299.
I actually think Wave 2 will be their last release. I'd be surprised if sales are enough to continue another release. I'm really enjoying witnessing the enjoyment many people are getting from these, and I do like some of the accessories.
I suspect before it's all over, I'll have a couple more more machines.
Yeah, but are they selling at $299? Everyone here talks about buying them when the price drops.
I don’t disagree with you on this being the last go ‘round. They should have held back an AAA title like Pac-Man or Galaga for second series.
I’m surprised they’re releasing a Karate Champ, to be honest. It’s one of my favorite games, but I didn’t think it was one people were clamoring for.
It's very regional, but they price dropped so quickly, I think many people are waiting for the price to drop. I did. On their facebook group, there was lots of happy owners at $299, and then reports started coming in about price drops at Wal-mart and then the group became more focused on the price.
Did enough of them sell at $299? I don't know. I suspect not since some stores started lowering prices.
I'm a big Karate Champ fan too. I never could get the hang of evade. It doesn't work so well with 8 ways. I don't suspect it will sell well and it's not a control scheme that will allow them to add many other games.
Yeah, and since it’s a vertical screen, it’s not like they could add Robotron or SmashTV. Curious choice indeed.
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 11, 2019, 07:14:15 pm
I had karate champ on the NES.... talk about ---smurfing--- up the controls...
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 07:18:24 pm
Well I know some of you golden age guys don't think so, but the Mortal Kombat trilogy is a huge franchise, especially since they decided to go with that awesome MK II artwork. I think they potentially have a few more rounds in them in terms of titles.... I just think they'll run their own reputation into the ground if they don't either lower prices or raise quality.
I had karate champ on the NES.... talk about ---smurfing--- up the controls...
Yeah, but if you’re into fighters, you probably bought the SF cab and Pi’d it to play fighters.
Fighters won’t sell as well as a Pac or Galaga.
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 07:20:32 pm
Well I know some of you golden age guys don't think so, but the Mortal Kombat trilogy is a huge franchise, especially since they decided to go with that awesome MK II artwork. I think they potentially have a few more rounds in them in terms of titles.... I just think they'll run their own reputation into the ground if they don't either lower prices or raise quality.
I had karate champ on the NES.... talk about ---smurfing--- up the controls...
Yeah, but if you’re into fighters, you probably bought the SF cab and Pi’d it to play fighters.
Fighters won’t sell as well as a Pac or Galaga.
Guess we'll see. I'm going to either build/buy a MK machine. My kids are really into MK right now. I gave them a booklet with the moves and they've been having fun. I don't like the using SF controls with MKII, but it's do-able. The run button messes everything up and the SF controls don't work at all.
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 07:24:22 pm
Well I know some of you golden age guys don't think so, but the Mortal Kombat trilogy is a huge franchise, especially since they decided to go with that awesome MK II artwork. I think they potentially have a few more rounds in them in terms of titles.... I just think they'll run their own reputation into the ground if they don't either lower prices or raise quality.
I had karate champ on the NES.... talk about ---smurfing--- up the controls...
Yeah, but if you’re into fighters, you probably bought the SF cab and Pi’d it to play fighters.
Fighters won’t sell as well as a Pac or Galaga.
Guess we'll see. I'm going to either build/buy a MK machine. My kids are really into MK right now. I gave them a booklet with the moves and they've been having fun. I don't like the using SF controls with MKII, but it's do-able. The run button messes everything up and the SF controls don't work at all.
How were the stock controls with SFII? Did people complain about not being able to pull off combos?
I already read grumbling about the MKII Art they had on the demo cab.
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 11, 2019, 07:31:15 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 11, 2019, 08:36:37 pm
Well I know some of you golden age guys don't think so, but the Mortal Kombat trilogy is a huge franchise, especially since they decided to go with that awesome MK II artwork. I think they potentially have a few more rounds in them in terms of titles.... I just think they'll run their own reputation into the ground if they don't either lower prices or raise quality.
I had karate champ on the NES.... talk about ---smurfing--- up the controls...
Yeah, but if you’re into fighters, you probably bought the SF cab and Pi’d it to play fighters.
Fighters won’t sell as well as a Pac or Galaga.
Guess we'll see. I'm going to either build/buy a MK machine. My kids are really into MK right now. I gave them a booklet with the moves and they've been having fun. I don't like the using SF controls with MKII, but it's do-able. The run button messes everything up and the SF controls don't work at all.
How were the stock controls with SFII? Did people complain about not being able to pull off combos?
I already read grumbling about the MKII Art they had on the demo cab.
Ball tops aren't right. I even think casual gamers would prefer bats. They changed to bats for MK prototypes at CES.
Post by: Malenko on January 11, 2019, 09:42:03 pm
I put about $600 into a Donkey Kong cabinet I got for free. I spent around $100 for a bartop Tempest arcade artwork. I guess that makes me especially foolish!The ugliness of the art package has nothing to do with what you spent on a donkey kong or tempest bartop artwork.
I already read grumbling about the MKII Art they had on the demo cab.Yeah because they grabbed the faded side art pic from here:
https://segamadebaddecisions.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/mortal-kombat-2-art-resources/?fbclid=IwAR2xj7IAtkKevWSKC81x4tXSSbD5kBWcrhDCF9mlFHOJZqH2fGtT-JpA6Hc
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 11, 2019, 09:51:37 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
yes in store price - i used the stock tool and found a store along my trip route that had just changed the price to $99 the day before i was going to leave.
would have grabbed a galaga too but we didnt have much room in the car !
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2019, 10:13:15 pm
i was lucky to grab an asteroids cabinet for $99 while i was on vacation but am still not sure i got a good deal.
i am looking at spending at least another $100 to mod it.
Was that the in-store price?
yes in store price - i used the stock tool and found a store along my trip route that had just changed the price to $99 the day before i was going to leave.
would have grabbed a galaga too but we didnt have much room in the car !
Interesting. Thanks for the reply.
Post by: jdevane on January 11, 2019, 10:52:51 pm
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 12, 2019, 01:10:56 am
Post by: Nephasth on January 12, 2019, 01:27:25 am
I'm not interested at $100. For $100 I can pick up an empty JAMMA cab with monitor and drop an ARpiCADE in for $150 more. These toys are just that... toys.
Arcade machines are toys... Albeit commercial grade...
Post by: jdevane on January 12, 2019, 09:32:17 am
I'm not interested at $100. For $100 I can pick up an empty JAMMA cab with monitor and drop an ARpiCADE in for $150 more. These toys are just that... toys.
I wish... there's usually next to nothing around here, so I have taken up learning to but and build my own... I guess in the long wrong that is better anyway.
Post by: Mike A on January 12, 2019, 10:40:32 am
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I wish... there's usually next to nothing around here, so I have taken up learning to but and build my own... I guess in the long wrong that is better anyway.
Post by: leapinlew on January 12, 2019, 12:11:31 pm
I'm not interested at $100. For $100 I can pick up an empty JAMMA cab with monitor and drop an ARpiCADE in for $150 more. These toys are just that... toys.
Frizz! How ya been? AA still going strong?
How goes the arcade scene for you? I regret that 2018 I didn't do much building, I refurbed a Defender bartop. I did even less playing. Hope to fix that in 2019.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 12, 2019, 01:31:04 pm
I'm not interested at $100. For $100 I can pick up an empty JAMMA cab with monitor and drop an ARpiCADE in for $150 more. These toys are just that... toys.
Arcade machines are toys... Albeit commercial grade...
I'll concede to that...
...I'll take commercial grade rather than disposable. Thank you!
:D
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 12, 2019, 01:35:30 pm
I'm not interested at $100. For $100 I can pick up an empty JAMMA cab with monitor and drop an ARpiCADE in for $150 more. These toys are just that... toys.
Frizz! How ya been? AA still going strong?
How goes the arcade scene for you? I regret that 2018 I didn't do much building, I refurbed a Defender bartop. I did even less playing. Hope to fix that in 2019.
Still around... and AA is still there (and you've been approved!). :)
It's been slow ... but the garagecade is still up and pretty much full (24ish games)... anyone interested in the comings/goings of the garagecade can visit my blog at www.idahogaragecade.com (http://www.idahogaragecade.com) ...
Recently I've been having fun making Attract-Mode front end layouts (actually managed to make a few bucks (in product) doing so for a "customer" ... whoa.)...
My latest acquisition was a Midway Arctic Thunder I got for a hundred bucks. Non-working of course... but I had that baby up and running in all of about an hour (gotta love it when the problem comes down to a dead CR2032 coin-cell battery and toasted ATX power supply... >ZING!<
I'm still in the game but I am very selective... and the deals are few and far between unlike the days of old.
I'd LOVE to come across a reasonably priced Q*bert or Space Fury...
Yeah, right.
Post by: jdevane on January 12, 2019, 04:09:51 pm
It might be the NyQuil coma I am just coming out of, but I have no idea what this means.QuoteI wish... there's usually next to nothing around here, so I have taken up learning to but and build my own... I guess in the long wrong that is better anyway.
My comment was directed at the post above me stating he could just buy a $100 jamma cabinet... I was saying I wish I could be so lucky because where I live there is usually nothing available or its way overpriced.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on January 16, 2019, 07:38:06 pm
I think opt2not is obsessive about this kind of topic.
Post by: negative1 on January 16, 2019, 10:08:14 pm
gamestop, asteroids, $150 online:
https://www.gamestop.com/toys/arcade1up-asteroids/157867 (https://www.gamestop.com/toys/arcade1up-asteroids/157867)
later
-1
Post by: pbj on January 17, 2019, 10:51:45 am
Post by: negative1 on January 17, 2019, 01:14:05 pm
Buy it at GameStop, return it to Walmart without a receipt.... $150 free money....
how is that free. the time, effort and audacity to do that isn't free.
you have to wait for shipping, etc.
not worth it.
later
-1
Post by: opt2not on January 17, 2019, 02:07:39 pm
You do know who you're quoting right? pbj is the king of working the system. :burgerking: :lol
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 17, 2019, 04:02:41 pm
Buy it at GameStop, return it to Walmart without a receipt.... $150 free money....
That's messed up man. Naturally I thought about doing it for a minute or two there. :)
Post by: yotsuya on January 17, 2019, 05:57:12 pm
Buy it at GameStop, return it to Walmart without a receipt.... $150 free money....
Do it four times and you’ve got your airfare for ZapCon, Pendejo.
Post by: ark_ader on January 17, 2019, 08:30:02 pm
Post by: smass on January 18, 2019, 10:18:50 am
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
*falls out of chair laughing*
Post by: JDFan on January 18, 2019, 10:33:00 am
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Post by: Osirus23 on January 18, 2019, 10:53:17 am
Post by: Lilwolf on January 18, 2019, 11:04:27 am
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 18, 2019, 11:44:46 pm
I think they have their uses. The asteroids has me tempted... if that spinner didn't suck so bad I would be interested at that price.
Post by: opt2not on January 19, 2019, 05:46:32 am
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
Don't worry, I'm sure the return rate for these cabs is so high, no one will be the wiser. :laugh:
Post by: SlammedNiss on January 19, 2019, 06:25:27 am
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )What's the lowest price they've been at WM in the last 90 days? Because I believe w/out a receipt they will only refund you/give you credit for whatever the lowest price it sold for in the last 90 days.
Post by: ark_ader on January 19, 2019, 11:02:20 am
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Really? Well try it and test your theory. Tell us which prison you get to so we can club together and send you some soap. >:D
Post by: ark_ader on January 19, 2019, 11:16:47 am
Sounds like something trailer trash would do.
How would that demographic, even come up with the idea, funds, logistics and get past security at the door. No. Nobody is that stupid and wants to risk jail, and their life as they know it.
It's theft and against the forum rules (5) to even suggest it. As it would be considered conspiracy to defraud. There is no future in it.
It would make a great TV game show though.
Post by: leapinlew on January 19, 2019, 12:23:49 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Really? Well try it and test your theory. Tell us which prison you get to so we can club together and send you some soap. >:D
It’s ok to be wrong Ark. we all do it from time to time. How you handle it is the important thing. You just sound silly now.
Post by: yotsuya on January 19, 2019, 12:36:48 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Really? Well try it and test your theory. Tell us which prison you get to so we can club together and send you some soap. >:D
It’s ok to be wrong Ark. we all do it from time to time. How you handle it is the important thing. You just sound silly now.
Agreed. But that’s just how Ark rolls.
Post by: ark_ader on January 19, 2019, 02:51:58 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Really? Well try it and test your theory. Tell us which prison you get to so we can club together and send you some soap. >:D
It’s ok to be wrong Ark. we all do it from time to time. How you handle it is the important thing. You just sound silly now.
You can check. Whenever I am wrong I admit it. I am not wrong now, and you are easily led. It is the casualty of old age. If you are so sure of yourself, then please prove me wrong. Which is silly isn't it? ::)
Yotsuya is always right so it doesn't matter. Go and ask them in chat verbatim to our topic of discussion and post the results. You will be surprised. https://www.walmart.com/cp/free-returns/1231920 (https://www.walmart.com/cp/free-returns/1231920)
Post by: ark_ader on January 19, 2019, 03:06:45 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable (are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime committed they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - (Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you (since Walmart's policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! (They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show (they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return (and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange (they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be?)
FIFY - Are you typing this on an Amiga?
Have a look on the box. ::)
There probably be no direct damages from Walmart, I am sure you will get some in court, then it all goes downhill from there. It is all hypothetical, but if they wanted to investigate Walmart has their own procedures. I know what you are suggesting, has been done before with other products. If you are caught which, would not be too difficult, they would prosecute. This is an exercise in morality, so I think it is hilarious that you have taken such a stand on the matter. Grow up.
Post by: leapinlew on January 19, 2019, 05:32:20 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
UPC is universal and the exact same for every Asteroids machine so exactly how would it be Traceable ( are you under the impression that every item has a unique UPC on the box ? ) -- Also in order for there to be any crime commited they would have to be able to prove you were intentionally trying to defraud Walmart - ( Almost impossible unless you told them that was your intention ) - if you told them it was a gift that you do not have the receipt for and wanted to return it - If the store agreed to refund you ( since Walmarts policy gives the final decision on whether to accept the return without a receipt up to that store's management) there is no crime ! ( They could just say no to the return ) So trying to get any law enforcement to take action against you would be extremely unlikely. Additionally there is also no damages that Walmart could show ( they are giving you the $299 and you are giving them the product that they sell for $299 in return ( and they were the ones that agreed to make that exchange ( they have the chance to deny the refund)) - so what exactly would their damages be ? )
Really? Well try it and test your theory. Tell us which prison you get to so we can club together and send you some soap. >:D
It’s ok to be wrong Ark. we all do it from time to time. How you handle it is the important thing. You just sound silly now.
You can check. Whenever I am wrong I admit it. I am not wrong now, and you are easily led. It is the casualty of old age. If you are so sure of yourself, then please prove me wrong. Which is silly isn't it? ::)
Yotsuya is always right so it doesn't matter. Go and ask them in chat verbatim to our topic of discussion and post the results. You will be surprised. https://www.walmart.com/cp/free-returns/1231920 (https://www.walmart.com/cp/free-returns/1231920)
So ignoring the obvious trolling, I want to confirm that you believe this statement you said to be correct:
The UPC is trackable.Are you going to stand by that as being correct or maybe, just maybe, you should say you are wrong? There's really only one way out of this without looking like a complete dummy.
Post by: smass on January 19, 2019, 08:27:00 pm
Are you going to stand by that as being correct or maybe, just maybe, you should say you are wrong? There's really only one way out of this without looking like a complete dummy.
too late...
Post by: JDFan on January 19, 2019, 10:41:37 pm
Have a look on the box. ::)
No need to look on the box - UPC codes are specific to specific items from specific companies that manufacture that product -- they do not include any information on what retailer it was sold at or how much it was sold for - Here is a little info for you just in case you really do not know this and actually believe that a UPC code could be traceable back to a specific transaction -
And just FYI - the UPC for the Asteroids cab is UPC: 815221022874 and it will be the exact same number for every Asteroids A1u Unit whether it is sold by Gamestop, Best Buy, Walmart or any other retailer !!
Quote
Universal product codes — UPCs — are the 12-digit numbers that appear under the barcodes on many U.S. products. They are given out by GS1 US, a nonprofit group that sets standards for international commerce.
Here’s how it works: Businesses pay to join GS1 US, and in exchange, it assigns each member its own identification number that appears as the first part of its UPC.
Companies usually need different UPC codes for each product they sell, even if it is just a different size. So companies will add more numbers to their GS1-issued identification code to identify each of their products. Each UPC can be used to produce a specific barcode that can then be printed out and attached to products or, ideally, incorporated into the product design so that it is easily scanned at the register.
Post by: ark_ader on January 19, 2019, 11:45:35 pm
Have a look on the box. ::)
No need to look on the box - UPC codes are specific to specific items from specific companies that manufacture that product -- they do not include any information on what retailer it was sold at or how much it was sold for - Here is a little info for you just in case you really do not know this and actually believe that a UPC code could be traceable back to a specific transaction -
And just FYI - the UPC for the Asteroids cab is UPC: 815221022874 and it will be the exact same number for every Asteroids A1u Unit whether it is sold by Gamestop, Best Buy, Walmart or any other retailer !!
QuoteUniversal product codes — UPCs — are the 12-digit numbers that appear under the barcodes on many U.S. products. They are given out by GS1 US, a nonprofit group that sets standards for international commerce.
Here’s how it works: Businesses pay to join GS1 US, and in exchange, it assigns each member its own identification number that appears as the first part of its UPC.
Companies usually need different UPC codes for each product they sell, even if it is just a different size. So companies will add more numbers to their GS1-issued identification code to identify each of their products. Each UPC can be used to produce a specific barcode that can then be printed out and attached to products or, ideally, incorporated into the product design so that it is easily scanned at the register.
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same. I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box. If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC. There is more than one, smarty pants.
Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already. Is that possible I wonder? ::)
Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00 Bait and switch tactics? Still pretty cheap for what you get.
Post by: Nephasth on January 19, 2019, 11:52:08 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 20, 2019, 12:06:49 am
https://www.theretrocollector.com/arcade1up (https://www.theretrocollector.com/arcade1up)
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Post by: Howard_Casto on January 20, 2019, 01:00:30 am
Post by: negative1 on January 20, 2019, 11:38:24 am
Yeah lets spend $100 for a light to put on a $300 device. That makes perfect sense.
How does $55 including shipping equal $100. Your math doesn't make any sense.
the DIY version is under $30, I don't see an issue.
Also, there are tons of option to do:
1) Build your own lighted marquee
2) Print your own graphics
3) Do an LCD marquee, which I already pointed out.
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Post by: JDFan on January 20, 2019, 12:43:43 pm
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same. I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box. If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC. There is more than one, smarty pants.
Then maybe you should say something other than "UPC is Trackable !" SInce that statement is completely wrong
And Again you say in this post
Quote
There is more than one
No there is not -- THere is no such thing as a MAIN UPC --- there is one and only one UPC for each product -- Sure there may be shipping/routing information added to the box by Walmart or Gamestop etc. at their warehouse but that is not a UPC Code and is not printed on the product box and those are easily removed from the A1U boxes that have the Glossy coating on them if they do exist !
Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already. Is that possible I wonder? ::)
Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00 Bait and switch tactics? Still pretty cheap for what you get.
It's not our combined stupidity that is showing in the thread - but maybe you do not notice it since that might require not being intellectually challenged !
ANd No the price is still $149 until Feb 2nd -- WHen you add it to the cart it will add a $50 discount making the price $149 ( but that might be challenging for you to figure out ! )
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$50 off the Arcade1UP: Asteroids Cabinet! Some exclusions apply. Applicable to physical in-stock items ONLY. Offer valid 1/17/19 - 2/2/19. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
Post by: yotsuya on January 20, 2019, 02:44:10 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on January 20, 2019, 02:59:49 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 20, 2019, 03:27:12 pm
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same. I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box. If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC. There is more than one, smarty pants.
Then maybe you should say something other than "UPC is Trackable !" SInce that statement is completely wrong
And Again you say in this postQuoteThere is more than one
No there is not -- THere is no such thing as a MAIN UPC --- there is one and only one UPC for each product -- Sure there may be shipping/routing information added to the box by Walmart or Gamestop etc. at their warehouse but that is not a UPC Code and is not printed on the product box and those are easily removed from the A1U boxes that have the Glossy coating on them if they do exist !Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already. Is that possible I wonder? ::)
Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00 Bait and switch tactics? Still pretty cheap for what you get.
It's not our combined stupidity that is showing in the thread - but maybe you do not notice it since that might require not being intellectually challenged !
ANd No the price is still $149 until Feb 2nd -- WHen you add it to the cart it will add a $50 discount making the price $149 ( but that might be challenging for you to figure out ! )Quote$50 off the Arcade1UP: Asteroids Cabinet! Some exclusions apply. Applicable to physical in-stock items ONLY. Offer valid 1/17/19 - 2/2/19. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
Funny. My plan is to point people to this thread when he tries to proclaim he admits his mistakes.
Post by: negative1 on January 20, 2019, 07:04:42 pm
(https://i.redd.it/v71hyr34dnb21.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YLFUFLY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_s6prCbG68WMD9 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YLFUFLY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_s6prCbG68WMD9)
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Post by: negative1 on January 20, 2019, 07:09:43 pm
precut plexiglass,, t-molding, bat stick, buttons, etc:
(https://www.diyretroarcade.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/ecd051e9670bd57df35c8f0b122d8aea/a/1/a1u_control_panel-fianl_top.jpg)
https://www.diyretroarcade.com/index.php/arcade1up-birch-two-player-control-deck.html (https://www.diyretroarcade.com/index.php/arcade1up-birch-two-player-control-deck.html)
the will have other templates at a future point.
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Post by: ark_ader on January 20, 2019, 10:14:59 pm
I got mine cut already with some m&m overlay. Just need some plexi.
Post by: negative1 on January 21, 2019, 02:46:01 am
and am running tests on the MAME from Rampage v.101, almost all the
games run, you see some graphical glitches due to the keyboard mapping though.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nf8g2cqP/pac-modseg1-mp4-thumbs-2019-01-21-01-53-36.jpg)
Detailed information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/)
Gauntlet is missing a graphics layer, so that's why it runs through Retroarch.
Anyways, everything is running off a USB stick, mounted as drive.
I mapped some keys to a USB keyboard, and all joystick to the Pac-Man joystick,
and action to Player 1 start:
MAME functions work great
----------------------------
all audio mapping, volume works
video rotation works, scaling works
video features work - brightness, contrast, gamma
Savestates - Saving and Loading works
Dipswitches - works
Pause works
Some functions are persistent across reboots
Still testing - cheats [should work]
- analog controls [USB mouse/trackball/spinner]
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Post by: ark_ader on January 21, 2019, 05:41:53 am
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same. I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box. If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC. There is more than one, smarty pants.
Then maybe you should say something other than "UPC is Trackable !" SInce that statement is completely wrong
And Again you say in this postQuoteThere is more than one
No there is not -- THere is no such thing as a MAIN UPC --- there is one and only one UPC for each product -- Sure there may be shipping/routing information added to the box by Walmart or Gamestop etc. at their warehouse but that is not a UPC Code and is not printed on the product box and those are easily removed from the A1U boxes that have the Glossy coating on them if they do exist !Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already. Is that possible I wonder? ::)
Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00 Bait and switch tactics? Still pretty cheap for what you get.
It's not our combined stupidity that is showing in the thread - but maybe you do not notice it since that might require not being intellectually challenged !
ANd No the price is still $149 until Feb 2nd -- WHen you add it to the cart it will add a $50 discount making the price $149 ( but that might be challenging for you to figure out ! )Quote$50 off the Arcade1UP: Asteroids Cabinet! Some exclusions apply. Applicable to physical in-stock items ONLY. Offer valid 1/17/19 - 2/2/19. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
Funny. My plan is to point people to this thread when he tries to proclaim he admits his mistakes.
Go build a cabinet and quit acting like a child. It is far better than trying to micro manage my posts. Seriously I am not worth all the time and effort. I am for anything that doesn't include derailing your own thread. Nice to know I can get $50 off that cabinet. If that is the case then you can get a price match off walmart. Seriously Lew, go and dazzle us with your woodworking skills. Something awesome. :applaud:
Post by: ark_ader on January 21, 2019, 05:45:46 am
Using the Stock Pac-Man board, I've done the USB hack, and UART hack,
and am running tests on the MAME from Rampage v.101, almost all the
games run, you see some graphical glitches due to the keyboard mapping though.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nf8g2cqP/pac-modseg1-mp4-thumbs-2019-01-21-01-53-36.jpg)
Detailed information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/)
Gauntlet is missing a graphics layer, so that's why it runs through Retroarch.
Anyways, everything is running off a USB stick, mounted as drive.
I mapped some keys to a USB keyboard, and all joystick to the Pac-Man joystick,
and action to Player 1 start:
MAME functions work great
----------------------------
all audio mapping, volume works
video rotation works, scaling works
video features work - brightness, contrast, gamma
Savestates - Saving and Loading works
Dipswitches - works
Pause works
Some functions are persistent across reboots
Still testing - cheats [should work]
- analog controls [USB mouse/trackball/spinner]
later
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Nice work. Looks like 1Up was wanting an expansion kit down the road. What the heck is this moo emulator?
Post by: negative1 on January 21, 2019, 11:31:49 am
Nice work. Looks like 1Up was wanting an expansion kit down the road. What the heck is this moo emulator?
The MOO emulator is their proprietary emulator that is built to run dedicated ROMS.
It is used in other products like the Atgames classic console also.
It can be configured to run multiple games, and it is what all the new version 2 cabinets will be running.
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Features:
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Command line parameters: g# = Game Number
P# = Pixel Scaling (default P1 P1 = Even Pixels (game has blank area around edge, pixels are evenly sized P2 = Full Screen (game has blank area around edge, pixels are irregularly sized)))
L# = enable/disable local save (default L1 L1 = Load local saved state (if it exists from ./docs/gamename.sav.zip If no local save exists, fixed save state will be loaded from ./zassets/gamename.save.zip Local game state will be saved to ./docs/gamename.sav.zip when exiting game via (1P-START) button.))
L0 = Never load or save local game state.
O# = Orientation of Screen (default O1 O1 = Top of Game on RIGHT of normal monitor (monitor should be LEFT SIDE DOWN O3 = Top of Game on LEFT of normal monitor (monitor should be RIGHT SIDE DOWN)))
-mode screensaver: instant exit from any button press
In-Game Features EXIT: Hold (1P-START for 3 seconds (if local save is enabled, saves local save to ./docs* RESET: Hold (2P-START) for 3 seconds (loads fixed save state from ./zassets)*))
-----------------------------------------------------------
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Post by: negative1 on January 22, 2019, 05:06:12 pm
(https://i.redd.it/r2ziqfrqe0c21.png)
Asteroids is still $150 Online at Gamestop.
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Post by: negative1 on January 22, 2019, 11:04:10 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/0Gv2qsS.png)
https://imgur.com/gallery/Iir2wcE
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Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 09:43:01 am
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
Um, that's not how UPC works...
>facepalm<
EDIT: Nevermind, already covered ... even though you AGAIN used the term UPC Traceable (no such thing).
BTW - I wouldn't suggest anyone do such a thing anyway, as the negative karma isn't worth it... plus, lets be 100% honest... who in their right mind (other than folks with kids) would want one of these ---smurfy--- little machines? The mind boggles...
...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box. Yay! Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...
EDIT: Man, re-reading this post and I sure come off strong. It's hard not to though... garbage in garbage out.
Post by: yotsuya on January 23, 2019, 10:53:33 am
...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box. Yay! Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...
A very good example there, Frizz
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 23, 2019, 11:05:25 am
At $100 and a few bucks for some mods this is perfect for me and my space limited retreat.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 01:05:33 pm
well not everyone has access to a garage to house a shite-ton of arcade cabs so these fit in well for those with limited space.
At $100 and a few bucks for some mods this is perfect for me and my space limited retreat.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/21/77/ab21779eb161f477a7734611fe35b8eb.jpg)
(http://www.ukvac.com/forum/uploads/1536/asteroids_cabaret.jpg)
(http://zencade.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2016-05-05-14.08.28.jpg)
...just a few examples of how y'all could "keep it real"...
:dunno
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 01:08:03 pm
Just not "getting" it I suppose. Again, for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD. WHO plays classic games on an LCD? Meh...
Post by: Mike A on January 23, 2019, 01:13:48 pm
You could build a nice cabaret instead of modding a 1up turd.
Post by: RandyT on January 23, 2019, 01:26:03 pm
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 01:33:25 pm
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)
Building ones own arcade cabinet affords one teh ability to choose whatever design they would want. There ARE some decent looking cabaret cabinets though (Centipede/DigDug being a great example... they even use 19" monitors)...
(https://i.imgur.com/WuSsDut.jpg)
I sort of dig the Galaga ones as well...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/5e/2c/085e2cd31b5eab4e6dab3f65f7eb0a58.jpg)
Post by: negative1 on January 23, 2019, 01:39:07 pm
(http://wetalkgames.com/arcade1up/asteroidscab.jpg)
you can access those through the USB hack.
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Post by: Malenko on January 23, 2019, 01:40:54 pm
the asteroids game has Asteroids deluxe, and street fighter 2 CE on it.
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So you can ShoRYuKen with a trackball?
Post by: Mike A on January 23, 2019, 01:41:20 pm
Quote
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box.
If you build your own it can be as snazzy as you want.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 01:42:57 pm
:)
https://www.facebook.com/ThePinballCompany/videos/2113629668744094/ (https://www.facebook.com/ThePinballCompany/videos/2113629668744094/)
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 01:54:29 pm
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)I disagree with this generalization. Like full-sized cabs, the designs can be hit or miss.
The Williams cabarets are probably ranked the best looking out all cabaret designs. Robotron, for example has a great looking design that doesn't feel like they had to make concessions because of the size of the cabinet.
(https://i.imgur.com/EPjUy78.jpg)
Unlike Pacman or some of the Taito cabinets:
(http://www.paladingrp.com/brianb/arcade24/pacman-front-side.jpg)
(http://ci-cdn.23bits.com/_s/7/49/si-130913130332-960.jpg)
Post by: Malenko on January 23, 2019, 02:04:12 pm
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 02:05:28 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/SBkDi2H.jpg)
Post by: yotsuya on January 23, 2019, 02:07:15 pm
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 23, 2019, 02:36:29 pm
Plus... isn't this the site where folks are encouraged to build their own? I mean, wouldn't it be way more satisfying building your own arcade cabinet (any size you wish, hell, stick with a standard layout ... say Midway ... then reduce to 2/3 size or something... I've seen more than one do it here (and the result was fanstastic).
Just not "getting" it I suppose. Again, for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD. WHO plays classic games on an LCD? Meh...
this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ?? point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.
And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument
I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?
Post by: Mike A on January 23, 2019, 02:43:14 pm
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this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ?? point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.
And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument
I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
Post by: Osirus23 on January 23, 2019, 02:45:34 pm
I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?
Stupid comparison. Old movies weren't designed for VHS, they were shot on film and it wasn't until Blu-ray and HD that home video was able to come close to recreating the detail captured on 35mm film.
Old games, on the other hand, had graphics designed based on how they would look on the CRT displays that were in use, and usually end up looking like crap on an LCD.
Post by: Mike A on January 23, 2019, 02:48:37 pm
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 23, 2019, 03:06:49 pm
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
$100 got me a small cabinet that fits into my space along with side art that would have cost a lot more otherwise.
I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?
Stupid comparison. Old movies weren't designed for VHS, they were shot on film and it wasn't until Blu-ray and HD that home video was able to come close to recreating the detail captured on 35mm film.
Old games, on the other hand, had graphics designed based on how they would look on the CRT displays that were in use, and usually end up looking like crap on an LCD.
weak argument maybe but i personally prefer newer flatscreens so there is that
Post by: RandyT on January 23, 2019, 03:19:07 pm
I disagree with this generalization.
Somehow you managed to find a generalization in a post where said generalization was specifically denied in the first sentence. "A1UP thread itchy-trigger-finger" syndrome? :)
I know there are good looking cabarets and would like to own one myself. Those weren't one of them.
Post by: DrakeTungsten on January 23, 2019, 03:20:41 pm
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
He must be a newb who's never heard of modding.
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weak argument maybe but i personally prefer newer flatscreens so there is thatIn general, sure, but have you seen a side-by-side comparison with games made for a CRT? If not, you really should make an effort to do so.
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 03:26:41 pm
Somehow you managed to find a generalization in a post where said generalization was specifically denied in the first sentence.Well you did negate your generalization denial by the second half of that first sentence, and the following sentence after that. :cheers:
Post by: yotsuya on January 23, 2019, 03:28:23 pm
In general, sure, but have you seen a side-by-side comparison for games made for a CRT? If not, you really should make an effort to do so.
Great point. I get the feeling that many people automatically think newer is better. In this case, it isn’t.
Post by: RandyT on January 23, 2019, 03:28:45 pm
Well you did negate your generalization denial by the second half of that first sentence, and the following sentence after that. :cheers:
How so?
Post by: Malenko on January 23, 2019, 03:31:08 pm
Of course the Neo-Geo mini simply kicks ass... just because... (and yeah, it's freakin' TINY)...
Dat Big Blue tho
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 03:31:54 pm
Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 23, 2019, 03:34:02 pm
I don't think it's cool to berate people for liking them. Unless I could get a killer discount they just aren't for me.... too flimsy for the price, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give people a hard time for feeling otherwise.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 03:36:53 pm
ya those cabarets you posted look like absolute --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- - no offence !!Plus... isn't this the site where folks are encouraged to build their own? I mean, wouldn't it be way more satisfying building your own arcade cabinet (any size you wish, hell, stick with a standard layout ... say Midway ... then reduce to 2/3 size or something... I've seen more than one do it here (and the result was fanstastic).
Just not "getting" it I suppose. Again, for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD. WHO plays classic games on an LCD? Meh...
this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ?? point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.
And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument
I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/27EhcDHnlkw1O/giphy.gif)
...about the best I could muster.
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 03:40:28 pm
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in generalGot it. i'm following...
but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak.You just generalized those cabinets as being weak. Are they though? The criteria for an arcade machine looks to be on point here. They have small-form, sleek retro design, height of the CP at a comfortable position, proper marquee displaying what game...
What's weak about them? Elaborate.
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They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)Another generalization that is downright false. The "primary draw" as you so put it, is saving space. Cabarets were installed in lobbies and waiting areas, where space was limited. Some cabarets like my Williams example had full artwork and lighting installed, and appealed to the aesthetic design that is akin to their full sized counterparts. In some cases, like Robotron, the size is actually benefitial to the gameplay. For a 13" screen, in Robotron you can pick up things in your perphrial vision a lot easier than on the full-sized version.
What you're projecting is that you think the boxier, no-frills cabaret designs weren't intentional, or fill no real purpose other than being a capsule. That's a generalization, no?
Post by: ark_ader on January 23, 2019, 03:58:53 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
Um, that's not how UPC works...
>facepalm<
EDIT: Nevermind, already covered ... even though you AGAIN used the term UPC Traceable (no such thing).
BTW - I wouldn't suggest anyone do such a thing anyway, as the negative karma isn't worth it... plus, lets be 100% honest... who in their right mind (other than folks with kids) would want one of these ---smurfy--- little machines? The mind boggles...
...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box. Yay! Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...
EDIT: Man, re-reading this post and I sure come off strong. It's hard not to though... garbage in garbage out.
I totally agree with you. This was not my intention, I posted that to dissuade vulnerable people who, lurk on here, and might be so inclined to go out and buy a 1up arcade game from Game Stop, and then try to get a higher refund from Walmart. This is clear fraud, and should not even be discussed on this site as we do not own it, and we should follow the rules of our ISP, etc. As I am sure we all can agree that we should have a moral obligation not to prescribe actions that would be considered unethical or unlawful. I have seen in the media, that people are easily led, and triggered to do things via online discussion.
Whether the UPC is traceable or not, I was hoping that my comments would act as a deterrent. I would not be happy if someone did this and got caught and went to jail, just because someone registered on this site proposed something that was deemed illegal. If this sounds stupid to you then you have my sincere respect to your right of opinion. Again this is not my site, but if it was, I would not like someone discussing something that can be construed as illegal. Probably why we have rule 5. Then I have objection to those registered on this site, to propagate interest of the subject above to ridicule me. My takeaway from this is I now have a better understanding of peoples values on morality. I am thankful for the education, even if I do not subscribe or agree to their intentions, regardless if they think they are ethical.
It is not my place to police anyone, people should should first think before posting. I am sure you all will punish me for my moral beliefs, in your comments.
I just wanted to clear that up. :cheers:
Food for thought. (https://www.edge.org/responses/how-is-the-internet-changing-the-way-you-think)
Post by: ark_ader on January 23, 2019, 04:04:41 pm
well not everyone has access to a garage to house a shite-ton of arcade cabs so these fit in well for those with limited space.
At $100 and a few bucks for some mods this is perfect for me and my space limited retreat.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/21/77/ab21779eb161f477a7734611fe35b8eb.jpg)
(http://www.ukvac.com/forum/uploads/1536/asteroids_cabaret.jpg)
(http://zencade.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2016-05-05-14.08.28.jpg)
...just a few examples of how y'all could "keep it real"...
:dunno
I would love to build one of those (I have 2 1902A monitors) can we have some exact specifications we can sticky so we can at least get the style of one of these beauties in our office/home?
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 23, 2019, 05:04:10 pm
Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 05:43:16 pm
I don't think it is worth going to jail for. The UPC is trackable.
Um, that's not how UPC works...
>facepalm<
EDIT: Nevermind, already covered ... even though you AGAIN used the term UPC Traceable (no such thing).
BTW - I wouldn't suggest anyone do such a thing anyway, as the negative karma isn't worth it... plus, lets be 100% honest... who in their right mind (other than folks with kids) would want one of these ---smurfy--- little machines? The mind boggles...
...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box. Yay! Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...
EDIT: Man, re-reading this post and I sure come off strong. It's hard not to though... garbage in garbage out.
I totally agree with you. This was not my intention, I posted that to dissuade vulnerable people who, lurk on here, and might be so inclined to go out and buy a 1up arcade game from Game Stop, and then try to get a higher refund from Walmart. This is clear fraud, and should not even be discussed on this site as we do not own it, and we should follow the rules of our ISP, etc. As I am sure we all can agree that we should have a moral obligation not to prescribe actions that would be considered unethical or unlawful. I have seen in the media, that people are easily led, and triggered to do things via online discussion.
Whether the UPC is traceable or not, I was hoping that my comments would act as a deterrent. I would not be happy if someone did this and got caught and went to jail, just because someone registered on this site proposed something that was deemed illegal. If this sounds stupid to you then you have my sincere respect to your right of opinion. Again this is not my site, but if it was, I would not like someone discussing something that can be construed as illegal. Probably why we have rule 5. Then I have objection to those registered on this site, to propagate interest of the subject above to ridicule me. My takeaway from this is I now have a better understanding of peoples values on morality. I am thankful for the education, even if I do not subscribe or agree to their intentions, regardless if they think they are ethical.
It is not my place to police anyone, people should should first think before posting. I am sure you all will punish me for my moral beliefs, in your comments.
I just wanted to clear that up. :cheers:
Food for thought. (https://www.edge.org/responses/how-is-the-internet-changing-the-way-you-think)
What IS traceable is the serial number (most likely) associated with the units. I know when I took back a TV to Wally World they removed the box and typed in the serial number from the back of the unit. I'm guessing they have something similar for these units (and just about anything over a specific dollar amount). I assume all this because the unscrupulous individual could wait until Wally World itself had them on sale then attempt to return them when the sale was over (or by just claiming he bought it BEFORE the sale as put on).
We do agree 100% that it takes an unethical THIEF to do such a thing. If you're (no you... I'm talking to "everyone") the king of person who feels it's OK to steal... then you shouldn't have difficulty morally accepting whatever BS you come up with the justify the theft. If you're like MOST of us here ... and you were taught that there's not much worse than a Thief or Liar... then you're going to avoid even attempting the mental gymnastics necessary to "justify" this form of thievery.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 23, 2019, 05:47:35 pm
I would love to build one of those (I have 2 1902A monitors) can we have some exact specifications we can sticky so we can at least get the style of one of these beauties in our office/home?
I'll poke around. I know there are at least SOME specs for minis floating around...
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 05:51:39 pm
This thread isn't the official product thread of your said purchase. Anyone is allowed to express their opinions of this product, whether good or bad. Contrary to some people here, that only want to hear the *good things (*there aren't many) about these cabinets. You are free to take part, but surely you see the conundrum you're in? You want to participate, but you say it's none of our business. That seems like a conflict.Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Mike A, and myself have helped many many members of this forum. We are here to continue to help and support the BYOAC community. Part of that support is calling out quality issues for products that the community might spend their hard-earned money on. Whether they're "lemons" or not.
Continue to join the conversation.
Post by: DrakeTungsten on January 23, 2019, 07:09:41 pm
Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
Ha! He said it's none of Mike's business, which is the proper response to someone who is engaging you in bad faith. He didn't say it's nobody's business. I'm sure that pretending he was talking to everybody helps to ease the pain, but you do yourself no favors by shying away from reality.
Post by: RandyT on January 23, 2019, 07:13:02 pm
You just generalized those cabinets as being weak. Are they though? The criteria for an arcade machine looks to be on point here. They have small-form, sleek retro design, height of the CP at a comfortable position, proper marquee displaying what game...
What's weak about them? Elaborate.
They are so "utilitarian" in appearance that they lack any style or real character. Without the tacked-on logo plates, they'd look like a check-in terminal at an early 80's vintage hotel.
As for the rest of the side-step, hopefully this will help:
Code: [Select]
Definition of draw
transitive verb
3a : to bring by inducement or allure : ATTRACT
honey draws flies
I don't know if you were alive in those days, but the games were so popular that they were everywhere there was a place to cram one into. The games were the draw in those locations, and a flashy cabinet wasn't necessary to attract players. Most were just happy to be able to play the games in the corner of a grocery store while Mom or the wife was off shopping.
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What you're projecting is that you think the boxier, no-frills cabaret designs weren't intentional, or fill no real purpose other than being a capsule. That's a generalization, no?
The first part I never stated, and the second is a statement of fact. There were some locations where a "capsule" was all that would fit within space, decor and cost constraints. IMHO, those generic looking boxes were the "shovelware" of the games' presentation. I almost felt dirty putting quarters into them (but I did it anyway :).) The A1UP boxes are considerably more attractive as, unlike those "capsules", they retain the spirit of the actual machine in a diminutive format.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on January 23, 2019, 07:18:41 pm
Yes, some of those cabarets look like square versions of those 'grammophone' tubes on steam ships, sticking out of the deck. Cabarets were also cheaper to design and make, and since they apparently went mainly in places where people's vision and perception was impaired, if not heavily, a more cabinet-like design was un-necessary.
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2019, 07:38:55 pm
You just generalized those cabinets as being weak. Are they though? The criteria for an arcade machine looks to be on point here. They have small-form, sleek retro design, height of the CP at a comfortable position, proper marquee displaying what game...
What's weak about them? Elaborate.
They are so "utilitarian" in appearance that they lack any style or real character. Without the tacked-on logo plates, they'd look like a check-in terminal at an early 80's vintage hotel.
As for the rest of the side-step, hopefully this will help:Code: [Select]Definition of draw
transitive verb
3a : to bring by inducement or allure : ATTRACT
honey draws flies
I don't know if you were alive in those days, but the games were so popular that they were everywhere there was a place to cram one into. The games were the draw in those locations, and a flashy cabinet wasn't necessary to attract players. Most were just happy to be able to play the games in the corner of a grocery store while Mom or the wife was off shopping.QuoteWhat you're projecting is that you think the boxier, no-frills cabaret designs weren't intentional, or fill no real purpose other than being a capsule. That's a generalization, no?
The first part I never stated, and the second is a statement of fact. There were some locations where a "capsule" was all that would fit within space, decor and cost constraints. IMHO, those generic looking boxes were the "shovelware" of the games' presentation. I almost felt dirty putting quarters into them (but I did it anyway :).) The A1UP boxes are considerably more attractive as, unlike those "capsules", they retain the spirit of the actual machine in a diminutive format.
Cheers Randy, as always I respect you and your opinion. :cheers:
We can settle at disagreeing, and that's totally fine. I just don't think that the cabaret aesthetics are weak, IMO they are engineered for good utility as well as an alluring design. Perhaps we're just arguing over subjectivity, because to me the A1up cabs look kitchy and tacky, with their poorly sized and positioned side-art, kick plate being slathered with logo art (let alone not having a consistency in logo sizes, company trademark logos between cabinets), poor decision of placing the speaker into the CP, and in some cases a minimalist monitor bezel art. Let alone the profile shape of the cabinet altogether...
I look at cabarets as a good mix between form and function, and I do understand your point about the games being the driving factor, since the most successful arcade titles have been made into cabaret versions. Yes, I was alive when these were in popular locations, hotes and restaurants...I remember some restaurants having them lined up in the back near the washrooms and payphones... from what I remember not only was the allure to get a small form money-maker into a small space, they were also designed to be discrete and give a private gameplay experience. That's what I really like about them. They are not about flashiness, but they're not necessarily bare-bone boxes.
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 23, 2019, 07:42:58 pm
This thread isn't the official product thread of your said purchase. Anyone is allowed to express their opinions of this product, whether good or bad. Contrary to some people here, that only want to hear the *good things (*there aren't many) about these cabinets. You are free to take part, but surely you see the conundrum you're in? You want to participate, but you say it's none of our business. That seems like a conflict.Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Mike A, and myself have helped many many members of this forum. We are here to continue to help and support the BYOAC community. Part of that support is calling out quality issues for products that the community might spend their hard-earned money on. Whether they're "lemons" or not.
Continue to join the conversation.
i may have been a little harsh with my 'none of your business' comment which i will apologize for but it wasnt like Mike was being super nice to begin with.
anyway - it is what it is so lets move on
Post by: jennifer on January 23, 2019, 09:14:41 pm
Post by: ark_ader on January 23, 2019, 10:20:23 pm
This thread isn't the official product thread of your said purchase. Anyone is allowed to express their opinions of this product, whether good or bad. Contrary to some people here, that only want to hear the *good things (*there aren't many) about these cabinets. You are free to take part, but surely you see the conundrum you're in? You want to participate, but you say it's none of our business. That seems like a conflict.Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Mike A, and myself have helped many many members of this forum. We are here to continue to help and support the BYOAC community. Part of that support is calling out quality issues for products that the community might spend their hard-earned money on. Whether they're "lemons" or not.
Continue to join the conversation.
That is why I look forward to your posts. They tend to stay on target and focused. It is to your credit. :applaud:
Post by: leapinlew on January 23, 2019, 10:42:50 pm
This thread isn't the official product thread of your said purchase. Anyone is allowed to express their opinions of this product, whether good or bad. Contrary to some people here, that only want to hear the *good things (*there aren't many) about these cabinets. You are free to take part, but surely you see the conundrum you're in? You want to participate, but you say it's none of our business. That seems like a conflict.Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Mike A, and myself have helped many many members of this forum. We are here to continue to help and support the BYOAC community. Part of that support is calling out quality issues for products that the community might spend their hard-earned money on. Whether they're "lemons" or not.
Continue to join the conversation.
i may have been a little harsh with my 'none of your business' comment which i will apologize for but it wasnt like Mike was being super nice to begin with.
anyway - it is what it is so lets move on
Welcome Pumpkin. We got some spicy old crusty farts who have some very rigid ideas. I may just build up a A1Up just to get them to shutup, but they'll just claim it's a waste of money. Can't really win.
If you like your machine, good for you. I like mine and plan on doing some work to it. The build quality on them needs some re-enforcing for heavy user, but they are good. They are scratching the itch for a lot of folks and coming to BYOAC is a good move if you plan on doing some mods to yours. .
Post by: yotsuya on January 23, 2019, 10:49:55 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 23, 2019, 11:10:32 pm
This thread isn't the official product thread of your said purchase. Anyone is allowed to express their opinions of this product, whether good or bad. Contrary to some people here, that only want to hear the *good things (*there aren't many) about these cabinets. You are free to take part, but surely you see the conundrum you're in? You want to participate, but you say it's none of our business. That seems like a conflict.Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business". ::)
Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.
this is a build your own controls forum is it not ? I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"
i am here to take part in this thread for a product that i have purchased - why are you and little Mikey here again ?
Mike A, and myself have helped many many members of this forum. We are here to continue to help and support the BYOAC community. Part of that support is calling out quality issues for products that the community might spend their hard-earned money on. Whether they're "lemons" or not.
Continue to join the conversation.
Dude has just a couple dozen posts. Guess you'll only be happy when you drive out another member?
Look, he already bought it. I already bought mine. Why do our purchases bother you so much? You aren't going to save me any hard earned money. You really should learn how to say things without looking like an ass. It causes your words to be wasted. FWIW, I actually think it's worthwhile to let folks know that the build quality on these isn't arcade quality, but I think the method you guys are using is causing people to be afraid to post.
I've built a lot of arcade games. I happen to like these A1UPs stock, but I'm pretty sure I can convert one of these into something that even you old farts would be happy with. I think it's a good base to work from and I could see many folks looking to go to the next level using many of the same techniques/tools we have all learned here. I'm saying this as someone who owns several Arcade1ups. How many do you have?
...
Zero, right? You guys are out of line, again.
Post by: leapinlew on January 23, 2019, 11:13:43 pm
You do realize pumpkinpie has been a user since 4/17/17 and has a full-size cab he posted about before. It’s not like these toys are ushering in influx of new blood. I mean, c’mon.
That's right! You dirty toy lovers get out! We only play games.
Post by: yotsuya on January 23, 2019, 11:32:28 pm
You do realize pumpkinpie has been a user since 4/17/17 and has a full-size cab he posted about before. It’s not like these toys are ushering in influx of new blood. I mean, c’mon.
That's right! You dirty toy lovers get out! We only play games.
It’s almost as bad as defending UPCs...
Post by: saint on January 24, 2019, 07:03:50 am
I assume all this because the unscrupulous individual could wait until Wally World itself had them on sale then attempt to return them when the sale was over (or by just claiming he bought it BEFORE the sale as put on).
Post by: RandyT on January 24, 2019, 12:48:07 pm
Without commenting on anyone's particular morality, my experience has been that if there's been a sale on an item recently, even if it's no longer on sale, if you return it without a receipt you get the sale value back, not the regular price value back. This was a painful lesson to learn about gift receipts for Christmas gifts years ago. If I were running a retail store with a lenient return policy, this is the model I'd follow.
Good point. Also, WalMart is wise to these kinds of shenanigans. I bought a radar detector, which was dead right out of the box. As I am in a remote location about 50 miles from a Walmart, I didn't make it back to one until after the 30 day return/exchange was up. Even without a receipt, they knew the exact day the item was purchased, and I didn't notice them doing anything special when I purchased it (but they might have.) So there is definitely something they track when it comes to electronic items. I left with my broken item, knowing it was my fault for not getting it back there in the proper time frame.
Turns out it was just a broken plug, which I fixed myself anyway, so happy ending :)
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 02:39:32 pm
Post by: opt2not on January 24, 2019, 02:39:56 pm
Dude has just a couple dozen posts. Guess you'll only be happy when you drive out another member?Who have I ever driven out? Sure I've driven members to lose their composure and induce temporary insanity, made some 'usual suspects' be obsessed with me to follow me around the forum and only post when I do...but driven out? Naw, I don't single-handedly do that. That takes a group effort. ;)
Look, he already bought it. I already bought mine. Why do our purchases bother you so much? You aren't going to save me any hard earned money. You really should learn how to say things without looking like an ass. It causes your words to be wasted. FWIW, I actually think it's worthwhile to let folks know that the build quality on these isn't arcade quality, but I think the method you guys are using is causing people to be afraid to post.
I've built a lot of arcade games. I happen to like these A1UPs stock, but I'm pretty sure I can convert one of these into something that even you old farts would be happy with. I think it's a good base to work from and I could see many folks looking to go to the next level using many of the same techniques/tools we have all learned here. I'm saying this as someone who owns several Arcade1ups. How many do you have?
...
Zero, right? You guys are out of line, again.
For the record, dude has been here for over a year, and has a full-sized cabinet posted. So your welcoming and defending him as a new member makes you look like an ass. We can be asses together, Lew. <holds hands>
No, I don't own one. But I know the quality from trying their floor demos, and having spent a few hours on them at a misguided friend's homes.
You don't need to own one to know how crappy they are. I know a Ford Pinto is still a POS car without having owned one.
You are too defensive in your old age. I know you're not the only one in this thread that wants justification for your purchase decision. And that's fine. But I'm not going to stop informing people my opinion on their quality. Nor am I going to stop chuckling every time I see another member sinks even more money into these things.
:cheers:
ps. We didn't have trash products like this when we started out in the hobby. Sometimes the old ways of learning are the best ways.
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 24, 2019, 02:57:21 pm
Post by: Ond on January 24, 2019, 03:15:13 pm
Post by: RandyT on January 24, 2019, 03:26:46 pm
I foresee a dedicated board being added to BYOAC for all things to do with Arcade1up..... Love em or hate em, it feels like the main discussion going on around here these days.
:soapbox:
I hate to say it, but it feels like there are some folks here who feel a bit threatened by just anyone being able to have something like this. Yeah, it's going to suck when you start talking about your personal arcade at parties and somebody pipes up and starts talking about their Arcade1UP collection. It's not the same, you'll never convince them otherwise, and you'll come off looking like a "kitten-stomper" in the end. It's already happening in these threads. Is that really the person you want to be, or the reason you participate in this hobby?
Post by: Osirus23 on January 24, 2019, 03:30:50 pm
I foresee a dedicated board being added to BYOAC for all things to do with Arcade1up..... Love em or hate em, it feels like the main discussion going on around here these days.
Why? So it can be a dead forum a year from now when the fad wears off and the (very low percentage) of A1Up cabinets that didn't fall apart after a period of light use are all being disposed of with fidget spinners on CL?
Post by: MikeyJ122 on January 24, 2019, 03:42:14 pm
Not to jump on the "arcade 1ups suck" bandwagon, because "suck" is too strong of a word, but IMO they are overpriced and under quality. A $150 price point would be solid, 200 tops. I say this because I AM interested in them. I have been checking Walmarts for them on clearance, and what I have found is display machines BEAT to heck. Real arcades didnt get beat up, and kids were rough on them. If they did, the controls lasted (decently anyways). These display arcade 1ups, the controls were just DESTROYED. That's very telling IMO.
I am in the Arcade 1 Up Facebook group (as well as the MAME builders group), and the hardcore fans of these machines I dont understand, tbh. People are putting SO much time, money, and effort into these things. I'm just like "why didnt you just do a MAME machine then?" That's what I dont get. Some of these things I've seen are pretty chinsey as well, like putting colored tape like for T molding... Sure it looks better, but that's a weak hack imo.
The casuals, I get. They buy one or two machines, they are quick, easy, simple. I get that. I also understand the guys that WANT a MAME machine, buy one of these, new controls, raspberry pi. I get that as well. I'm not knocking these machine for those people. But it's the people with ALL the machines, doing custom marquees, lights, etc. I'm just like "you know, you spent MORE money than doing a MAME, for less games, and your controls suck." That's what I dont understand. At that point, you are really just paying for the artwork on the machines, which you can get graphics done on a MAME...
Post by: Malenko on January 24, 2019, 03:45:34 pm
Malenko opinions awayyyyyyyyy
They are super neat toys. I wish I had something like this when I was a kid. 8 year old me is super jelly kids today have this option.
Comparing them to a real machine or a well build MAME cab is not a fair comparison. They are toys, and that is the purpose they serve.
Ironically, they are better than some MAME machines I've seen.
I understand why the game choice on each is so limited, but at the same time I still dislike it.
Quality is an issue. From the "cost effective" controls, to the magic erase control panel art, even the quality of emulation all leave a lot to be desired.
They tried to dance the fine line between quality and profit and came up short.
I dont think we'd need an arcade1up subforum (they likely have their own sandbox to play in) but I'd welcome it.
Post by: Ond on January 24, 2019, 03:50:14 pm
Post by: jennifer on January 24, 2019, 03:54:40 pm
My 2 cents. I posted this in the other Arcade 1 up thread as well. I've been watching these machines quite a bit.The fact they were falling apart as a display is quite telling as to the quality, Yet there is still a market for them...But what your possibly missing in the rest of this is, Giving a kid access to some of the tools and resources necessary to build a Mame cab (never mind the cost at this point) could actually be considered a bad concept in parenting.
Not to jump on the "arcade 1ups suck" bandwagon, because "suck" is too strong of a word, but IMO they are overpriced and under quality. A $150 price point would be solid, 200 tops. I say this because I AM interested in them. I have been checking Walmarts for them on clearance, and what I have found is display machines BEAT to heck. Real arcades didnt get beat up, and kids were rough on them. If they did, the controls lasted (decently anyways). These display arcade 1ups, the controls were just DESTROYED. That's very telling IMO.
I am in the Arcade 1 Up Facebook group (as well as the MAME builders group), and the hardcore fans of these machines I dont understand, tbh. People are putting SO much time, money, and effort into these things. I'm just like "why didnt you just do a MAME machine then?" That's what I dont get. Some of these things I've seen are pretty chinsey as well, like putting colored tape like for T molding... Sure it looks better, but that's a weak hack imo.
The casuals, I get. They buy one or two machines, they are quick, easy, simple. I get that. I also understand the guys that WANT a MAME machine, buy one of these, new controls, raspberry pi. I get that as well. I'm not knocking these machine for those people. But it's the people with ALL the machines, doing custom marquees, lights, etc. I'm just like "you know, you spent MORE money than doing a MAME, for less games, and your controls suck." That's what I dont understand. At that point, you are really just paying for the artwork on the machines, which you can get graphics done on a MAME...
Post by: DrakeTungsten on January 24, 2019, 03:56:45 pm
I hate to say it, but it feels like there are some folks here who feel a bit threatened by just anyone being able to have something like this.
That's hitting a nail on the head, but that's not the biggest nail. The idea of these things is fine (contrary to the folks you're talking about), but it's still fair to call out a shoddy product. Reading through this thread, I still don't have a clue what the appeal is to people who can and have done better themselves. I've apparently done better, and my skills are not great. I'm just not going to be offended by my inability to understand why skilled folks see value in these things.
You asked for some people to think about why they're in this hobby. The problem is that there's often a difference between why they are in this hobby and why they post on these boards.
Post by: jennifer on January 24, 2019, 04:06:15 pm
That's easy... They are cheap, simple for virtually any kid to assemble, and come in a box.
I hate to say it, but it feels like there are some folks here who feel a bit threatened by just anyone being able to have something like this.
That's hitting a nail on the head, but that's not the biggest nail. The idea of these things is fine (contrary to the folks you're talking about), but it's still fair to call out a shoddy product. Reading through this thread, I still don't have a clue what the appeal is to people who can and have done better themselves. I've apparently done better, and my skills are not great. I'm just not going to be offended by my inability to understand why skilled folks see value in these things.
You asked for some people to think about why they're in this hobby. The problem is that there's often a difference between why they are in this hobby and why they post on these boards.
Post by: MikeyJ122 on January 24, 2019, 04:06:45 pm
My 2 cents. I posted this in the other Arcade 1 up thread as well. I've been watching these machines quite a bit.The fact they were falling apart as a display is quite telling as to the quality, Yet there is still a market for them...But what your possibly missing in the rest of this is, Giving a kid access to some of the tools and resources necessary to build a Mame cab (never mind the cost at this point) could actually be considered a bad concept in parenting.
Not to jump on the "arcade 1ups suck" bandwagon, because "suck" is too strong of a word, but IMO they are overpriced and under quality. A $150 price point would be solid, 200 tops. I say this because I AM interested in them. I have been checking Walmarts for them on clearance, and what I have found is display machines BEAT to heck. Real arcades didnt get beat up, and kids were rough on them. If they did, the controls lasted (decently anyways). These display arcade 1ups, the controls were just DESTROYED. That's very telling IMO.
I am in the Arcade 1 Up Facebook group (as well as the MAME builders group), and the hardcore fans of these machines I dont understand, tbh. People are putting SO much time, money, and effort into these things. I'm just like "why didnt you just do a MAME machine then?" That's what I dont get. Some of these things I've seen are pretty chinsey as well, like putting colored tape like for T molding... Sure it looks better, but that's a weak hack imo.
The casuals, I get. They buy one or two machines, they are quick, easy, simple. I get that. I also understand the guys that WANT a MAME machine, buy one of these, new controls, raspberry pi. I get that as well. I'm not knocking these machine for those people. But it's the people with ALL the machines, doing custom marquees, lights, etc. I'm just like "you know, you spent MORE money than doing a MAME, for less games, and your controls suck." That's what I dont understand. At that point, you are really just paying for the artwork on the machines, which you can get graphics done on a MAME...
You can buy a tankstick and a raspberry pi, for $50 bucks cheaper (at least). Put some time and effort into it (good parenting imo), and have WAY more games. That's essentially my set up at the moment (although mine is PC instead of pi) and my kids LOVE it, even my 3 year old son. I wouldn't trade my set up for an arcade 1 up, no way. Even one with a pi in it.
Which I plan on building a full cab eventually (money). But for now, I've spent $125 for my tankstick (bought it on sale from X Arcade), and ive had the TV and PC for years (so they weren't part of the expense). Tanksticks might not have the BEST controls, but they are better than arcade 1 ups. Plus I have 1,000 games from MULTIPLE platforms. So how is Arcade 1 up better again (other than the artwork on the cab)? Which brings me back to my point that THAT is whT people are really buying... the artwork.
Post by: jennifer on January 24, 2019, 04:35:37 pm
Post by: DrakeTungsten on January 24, 2019, 04:58:16 pm
That's easy... They are cheap, simple for virtually any kid to assemble, and come in a box.
I hate to say it, but it feels like there are some folks here who feel a bit threatened by just anyone being able to have something like this.
That's hitting a nail on the head, but that's not the biggest nail. The idea of these things is fine (contrary to the folks you're talking about), but it's still fair to call out a shoddy product. Reading through this thread, I still don't have a clue what the appeal is to people who can and have done better themselves. I've apparently done better, and my skills are not great. I'm just not going to be offended by my inability to understand why skilled folks see value in these things.
You asked for some people to think about why they're in this hobby. The problem is that there's often a difference between why they are in this hobby and why they post on these boards.
To be clear, I was asking why an experienced builder would buy one for themselves. You seem to be answering the question of what the general appeal is. Unless you're saying that even experienced builders sometimes want a no-brainer, throw-away project?
Post by: ark_ader on January 24, 2019, 05:02:14 pm
Also comparing usage as a demo with foot traffic of hundreds without the new covers is unfair. I agree we should have a 1Up sub forum and opt2not should be the moderator. This forum has enough going for it. Taskmakers view these forums for new ideas and feedback. Rest assured your comments do not go unnoticed.
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:03:14 pm
That's easy... They are cheap, simple for virtually any kid to assemble, and come in a box.
I hate to say it, but it feels like there are some folks here who feel a bit threatened by just anyone being able to have something like this.
That's hitting a nail on the head, but that's not the biggest nail. The idea of these things is fine (contrary to the folks you're talking about), but it's still fair to call out a shoddy product. Reading through this thread, I still don't have a clue what the appeal is to people who can and have done better themselves. I've apparently done better, and my skills are not great. I'm just not going to be offended by my inability to understand why skilled folks see value in these things.
You asked for some people to think about why they're in this hobby. The problem is that there's often a difference between why they are in this hobby and why they post on these boards.
To be clear, I was asking why an experienced builder would buy one for themselves. You seem to be answering the question of what the general appeal is. Unless you're saying that even experienced builders sometimes want a no-brainer, throw-away project?
From what I gather, experienced builders don’t enjoy the build process any more and just want cheap, easy, and fast. :dunno
Post by: leapinlew on January 24, 2019, 05:04:35 pm
You are too defensive in your old age. I know you're not the only one in this thread that wants justification for your purchase decision. And that's fine. But I'm not going to stop informing people my opinion on their quality. Nor am I going to stop chuckling every time I see another member sinks even more money into these things.
:cheers:
Getting older is a ---smurfette---... no lie there. I'm not looking for justification, and if I was, I don't need it from here. I don't mind opinions, what I do mind is mob mentality and the insults that come with that sometimes accompany that opinion. I thought it was harsh.
:cheers::cheers:
Post by: ark_ader on January 24, 2019, 05:07:04 pm
You are too defensive in your old age. I know you're not the only one in this thread that wants justification for your purchase decision. And that's fine. But I'm not going to stop informing people my opinion on their quality. Nor am I going to stop chuckling every time I see another member sinks even more money into these things.
:cheers:
Getting older is a ---smurfette---... no lie there. I'm not looking for justification, and if I was, I don't need it from here. I don't mind opinions, what I do mind is mob mentality and the insults that come with that sometimes accompany that opinion. I thought it was harsh.:cheers::cheers:
That is rich coming from you. :laugh2:
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:08:51 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:09:39 pm
You are too defensive in your old age. I know you're not the only one in this thread that wants justification for your purchase decision. And that's fine. But I'm not going to stop informing people my opinion on their quality. Nor am I going to stop chuckling every time I see another member sinks even more money into these things.
:cheers:
Getting older is a ---smurfette---... no lie there. I'm not looking for justification, and if I was, I don't need it from here. I don't mind opinions, what I do mind is mob mentality and the insults that come with that sometimes accompany that opinion. I thought it was harsh.:cheers::cheers:
That is rich coming from you. :laugh2:
I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.
Post by: jennifer on January 24, 2019, 05:16:52 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:23:17 pm
they do serve a purpose, kind of like the Barbie jeep.
I totally agree with you there. I’m also 99.9% sure owners of said Barbie Jeeps don’t frequent 4x4 forums pretending they are the real thing. They understand they are toys.
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:25:04 pm
Post by: DrakeTungsten on January 24, 2019, 05:42:39 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 05:53:16 pm
Yots, why does it have to be "any more"? Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.
No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.
Post by: ark_ader on January 24, 2019, 07:10:19 pm
Yots, why does it have to be "any more"? Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.
No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.
It won't go away. There is Saint's Project Arcade book. Crammed with all the details of building your arcade cabinets. Perhaps you should buy a copy, to give you peace of mind, and to reflect in your 90's when wood becomes the value of gold, how you wasted your time building what you could have bought for $150 at gamestop.
Post by: Malenko on January 24, 2019, 07:27:45 pm
I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.X2 is also consistent.
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 07:32:36 pm
Yots, why does it have to be "any more"? Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.
No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.
It won't go away. There is Saint's Project Arcade book. Crammed with all the details of building your arcade cabinets. Perhaps you should buy a copy, to give you peace of mind, and to reflect in your 90's when wood becomes the value of gold, how you wasted your time building what you could have bought for $150 at gamestop.
I did buy a copy. None of the stuff I learned came from it, but rather projects that builders crates and documented here. The book itself is unfortunately outdated - In fact, I bought it more to throw a few bucks Saint’s way than anything else.
Trust me, I’ll have no regrets I didn’t spend a cent on these. Why would I when I have a room full of real machines.
You know it brings me joy? Taking them to ZapCon and sharing them with people.
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 07:33:57 pm
I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.X2 is also consistent.
Damn. If I wuz Lew, I’d threaten to pull a MikeA on yer face for that one....
Post by: DGP on January 24, 2019, 07:36:09 pm
:blah: :soapbox: :angry: :timebomb:
:cheers:
;)
Post by: jennifer on January 24, 2019, 08:40:53 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 24, 2019, 09:12:45 pm
Relax Yots...Nobody's getting bumped by Game stop, Even if they came out with something more traditional it's still at best be a pathetic collection (for an adult), with virtually no return on investment. That's probibally why there so small anyway, less profit in shipping big.
Baby, I’m relaxed. I’m so chill you could store a side of beef inside me.
Post by: negative1 on January 24, 2019, 09:36:37 pm
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-12-in-1-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-atari-graphics/6288355.p?skuId=6288355 (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-12-in-1-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-atari-graphics/6288355.p?skuId=6288355)
later
-1
Post by: leapinlew on January 24, 2019, 10:35:47 pm
I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.X2 is also consistent.
way below the belt...
Post by: saint on January 25, 2019, 07:07:40 am
The book itself is unfortunately outdated - In fact, I bought it more to throw a few bucks Saint’s way than anything else.
Post by: saint on January 25, 2019, 07:14:18 am
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
Which led me to opening up BYOAC.
Which led me to buying my first real arcade machines (DK, Gyruss, and Kangaroo) and fulfilled a childhood fantasy.
Which led me to writing Project Arcade.
Which led me to building my first full cabinet (I'd only ever played with bits and pieces and half-finished projects until then).
Which finally led me to this thread :)
....
If I were just starting now, I'd probably buy one of these machines from Walmart. I suspect from there I'd get disappointed at the build quality as the artwork rubbed off, which very likely would lead me to thinking about tweaking or building my own.
Which might bring me here.
...
I'm all about whatever makes people happy as long as I don't think they're getting ripped off, and I think these cabinets are probably OK regardless of the price as they do what they advertise they'll do. As a gateway drug to the hobby I think they're fine. I probably wouldn't buy one now knowing what I know, because I have the means to do something better. But if I didn't have the time or inclination to help someone with their own, I might steer them towards one of these.
And if they drop to $100 or so I might pick one up to hack.
Post by: Malenko on January 25, 2019, 08:00:19 am
I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.X2 is also consistent.
way below the belt...
I don't see the benefit of not being able to grow; not sure how that is considered hitting below the belt. I agree with Saint's take on the A1Ups, and I have an autographed copy of his book :)
Post by: Gilrock on January 25, 2019, 08:26:31 am
Post by: Malenko on January 25, 2019, 08:57:48 am
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 25, 2019, 10:58:15 am
Did you ever finish that project that had you building what "appeared" to be train tracks around the top part of your walls some number of years back?
If so... please point me toward the thread. I'd love to see the result.
PS: I am still right most of the time. ;)
Post by: Osirus23 on January 25, 2019, 01:47:34 pm
I ran into these in Walmart and they looked great on the box but they did not have one on display.
When I first went to check them out I couldn't find the display at first. I honestly didn't know I was looking for something waist-high. Didn't help that the demo was nowhere near where the actual cabinets for sale were.
Post by: RandyT on January 25, 2019, 02:50:55 pm
When I ordered mine, it was for testing purposes with a special TurboTwist2 offering specifically developed for them, but at the same time, I knew I was going to build my own base for the unit. Also, after reading about the panel artwork issue, I knew I had a few options: complain to the company and get an plastic overlay (I hate overlays), spray it with a can of clear lacquer or laminate it with some of the clear PSA vinyl I just happen to have here. I chose the latter, but any of those three are simple solutions and a good idea for a panel anyway, if you want it to look nice long-term.
I'd also like to note that with a good, specialized spinner control, the stock games play very decently. But with a little tweak of the settings (requires the USB mod) Tempest and Major Havoc play as well on this unit as they do on my full-sized cabinet. With the leaf-buttons, the other games play great as well. These are mods nearly anyone can do, and it's a good learning process for those with an interest for the hobby. Just doing the things I outlined above (successfully) will prepare people with just about as much knowledge as they would need to do a scratch build. And if they fail at those things or find that they cost too much, well, it's probably a good indicator that a different hobby might be a better choice for them.
Post by: pumpkinpie on January 25, 2019, 03:03:53 pm
Welcome Pumpkin. We got some spicy old crusty farts who have some very rigid ideas. I may just build up a A1Up just to get them to shutup, but they'll just claim it's a waste of money. Can't really win.
If you like your machine, good for you. I like mine and plan on doing some work to it. The build quality on them needs some re-enforcing for heavy user, but they are good. They are scratching the itch for a lot of folks and coming to BYOAC is a good move if you plan on doing some mods to yours. .
Thanks Lew - no worries, lord knows i have been a crusty old fart at times !
I think the machine is ok at stock but should be much better once i get it modded the way i want. I am trying to sell the board, monitor and possibly the control panel which will help keep the costs low.
If i can sell those then the cabinet with artwork would have costed $50 or less which i cant complain about.
For the record, dude has been here for over a year, and has a full-sized cabinet posted. So your welcoming and defending him as a new member makes you look like an ass. We can be asses together, Lew. <holds hands>
unfortunately i had to sell that as my girlfriends son moved back in with us and i lost any available free space that i had which is partly why i am keeping and modding the A1up for now.
i know in the future that i will want a full cab so i will always be on the lookout for another, or i may end up building my own
Post by: negative1 on January 25, 2019, 10:21:45 pm
(let alone play it, it gets a yearly play a few times)... the only issues I ever had
were:
1) new power supply replaced when I bought it, by an arcade technician
2) removing the control panel (with whatever security screws they had on there), and oiling the 2nd spinner
that's it... since 1997. not bad for 22 years of owning it..
so that leads to : inducted by fire with an arcade 1up machine
TOP 10 things I think I learned from owning an arcade 1up, but was too lazy to do before I got it.
(including owning 2 non-working cocktail cabinets):
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1 learned about JST connectors and wiring (while replacing the stock joystick, with an arcade quality one)
2 learning about .187 inch connectors and 5 pin harness, and wiring them up correctly to the encoder (part of joystick replacement)
3 learned about LCD monitor controller, and wiring up connectors
4 had to relearn how to solder connectors and wires (for USB and UART hack) [did it before when I was ex-electrical engineer in college]
5 learned about making an LCD marquee, and getting software and hardware to work with it, [researching digital picture frames,
media players, and media sticks]
6 learning about zero delay USB encoders, buttons and joystick wiring
7 learning about how the stock board software custom MAME programs can be altered, and run with reconfiguring ROMS and interfacing
with external USB drives, and detecting issues with altering ROMS
8 mounting alternate control panels, external controls, external consoles, and interfacing with stock board
9 relearning everything that is needed to get an actual arcade spinner/dial to interface, encoder wheels, trackballs, rollers, and configuring
them to work correctly with those games
10 learning about acrylics, vinyl, and other materials used to replace all the artwork, control panels, protecting them, and what areas get
wear and tear (although I have yet to see any signs of it on my cabinet, or my friends)
not too bad a lesson for $100, which is what I paid for it.
I agree, that if people can't mod this, then forget about anything bigger or more complicated,
every other person on reddit has issues with pi and setting up image, setting up controllers, etc, etc, etc..
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Post by: jennifer on January 26, 2019, 03:52:51 am
Post by: negative1 on January 26, 2019, 12:03:38 pm
i don't own any drills, or any power tools.
would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.
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Post by: Nephasth on January 26, 2019, 12:53:04 pm
the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.
i don't own any drills, or any power tools.
would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.
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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?
Buy some tools! Jesus,
Post by: negative1 on January 26, 2019, 01:54:13 pm
the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.
i don't own any drills, or any power tools.
would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.
later
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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?
Buy some tools! Jesus,
well i might have to now. but the thing is, it's not worth it for the
few times i would use them.
also, i'm cheap, so i'll probably just borrow them from a friend.
i'm waiting on a cocktail cabinet kit, but i'm sure i will have to do extensive
drilling for the controls.
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Post by: leapinlew on January 26, 2019, 03:41:55 pm
the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.
i don't own any drills, or any power tools.
would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.
later
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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?
Buy some tools! Jesus,
Gonna have to agree with getting some tools. At a minimum, everyone should have a power drill of some sort. Putting in curtains, to building an arcade cabinet, it's essential. $15 at Harbor Freights for a variable speed corded drill.
Post by: jennifer on January 26, 2019, 04:12:09 pm
Post by: leapinlew on January 26, 2019, 05:53:17 pm
Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404 (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404)
And in my opinion, a tool investment should be made depending on it's anticipated usage. I lose screwdrivers left and right, I'm going to buy the middle of the road set of screwdrivers and not a super expensive set. My heat gun is a cheapy from Harbor Freights. I've used it a couple times in the last 5 years. No reason to spend a lot of money. I bought a cheap router, and after a few arcade games, I upgraded to a better router. Same with my jigsaw. Cheapie clamps do the job for me. It just depends on the tool and how much you use it. You can go broke buying all the tools at the best quality.
Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.
Post by: negative1 on January 26, 2019, 09:26:50 pm
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------
The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.
It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.
===============================================
tst_galx Galaxian Test ROM
gghost Goalie Ghost
alpha1v Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)
ldrun2 Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back
kyustrkr Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker
bgaregganv Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)
slipstrm Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)
slipstrmh Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)
demofist Demolish Fist
finalizr Finalizer - Super Transformation
=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]
Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5y9SK4fn/arc1up-asteroid1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8MQjZ7M/astgame-samp1-mp4-thumbs-2019-01-26-20-25-05.jpg)
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Post by: Howard_Casto on January 26, 2019, 10:46:48 pm
Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404 (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404)Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.
I dunno. For most tools I would agree, but I've got two craftsman cordless drills and they are easily the most useful tools I've ever owned. Makes other drills, especially other cordless drills, look like wet dog turds. I do agree about having a wired backup though.
Post by: leapinlew on January 26, 2019, 11:38:06 pm
Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404 (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404)Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.
I dunno. For most tools I would agree, but I've got two craftsman cordless drills and they are easily the most useful tools I've ever owned. Makes other drills, especially other cordless drills, look like wet dog turds. I do agree about having a wired backup though.
Cordless drills - so many options....
I had a 9.6v Black and Decker that was my absolute favorite. It was light weight and had enough umph to do all the basics I needed it for. The lightweight was key for me. I couldn't build a deck with it, but I could hang curtains, pictures and other overhead tasks without getting tired quickly. My Dewalt has more torque and options, but it's heavier and if my B&D didn't die, I would use the B&D over the Dewalt despite the Dewalt being "better" in almost every way other than price and weight.
To each their own. We can agree that a cordless drill is an awesome tool to have, but my main point was the dude should at least own a drill as it's the most used tool for many folks.
Post by: negative1 on January 27, 2019, 03:09:06 am
(http://home.earthlink.net/~foghornj/images/drinkand.jpg)
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Post by: ark_ader on January 27, 2019, 03:18:42 am
The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------
The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.
It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.
===============================================
tst_galx Galaxian Test ROM
gghost Goalie Ghost
alpha1v Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)
ldrun2 Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back
kyustrkr Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker
bgaregganv Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)
slipstrm Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)
slipstrmh Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)
demofist Demolish Fist
finalizr Finalizer - Super Transformation
=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]
Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.
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This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable. All the ROMS are licensed. So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised. Makes that $299 more worth the money.
Post by: JDFan on January 27, 2019, 07:27:45 am
This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable. All the ROMS are licensed. So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised. Makes that $299 more worth the money.
Actually those hidden games may/may not be licensed - could be they were trying to get licensing and couldn't so they never included them in the final production - but were just too lazy/late to remove them from the production run of the boards figuring no one could access them any way - So not necessarily licensed !
Post by: Nephasth on January 27, 2019, 07:41:16 am
Newflash, nobody gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about licensing.
:cheers:
Post by: negative1 on January 27, 2019, 11:25:36 am
The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------
The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.
It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.
===============================================
tst_galx Galaxian Test ROM
gghost Goalie Ghost
alpha1v Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)
ldrun2 Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back
kyustrkr Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker
bgaregganv Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)
slipstrm Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)
slipstrmh Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)
demofist Demolish Fist
finalizr Finalizer - Super Transformation
=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]
Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.
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This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable. All the ROMS are licensed. So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised. Makes that $299 more worth the money.
Not sure if they are or aren't, what I mentioned are the ones that are supported.
The actual ROMS that are extra are:
-----------
1) Asteroids deluxe
2) Major Havoc
3) Gravitar
The rest you have to supply on your own.
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Post by: yotsuya on January 27, 2019, 02:31:29 pm
Thanks for clarifying that. We wouldn’t want Ark’s post to cause any future confusion in regards as to what is licensed and what is not.The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------
The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.
It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.
===============================================
tst_galx Galaxian Test ROM
gghost Goalie Ghost
alpha1v Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)
ldrun2 Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back
kyustrkr Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker
bgaregganv Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)
slipstrm Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)
slipstrmh Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)
demofist Demolish Fist
finalizr Finalizer - Super Transformation
=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]
Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.
later
-1
This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable. All the ROMS are licensed. So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised. Makes that $299 more worth the money.
Not sure if they are are aren't, what I mentioned are the ones that are supported.
The actual ROMS that are extra are:
-----------
1) Asteroids deluxe
2) Major Havoc
3) Gravitar
The rest you have to supply on your own.
later
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Post by: Osirus23 on January 27, 2019, 03:12:19 pm
Newflash, nobody gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about licensing.
:cheers:
Oi mate! Ya got a loicense for dem ROMs, do ya?
Post by: ark_ader on January 28, 2019, 04:37:50 am
Thanks for clarifying that. We wouldn’t want Ark’s post to cause any future confusion in regards as to what is licensed and what is not.The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------
The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.
It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.
===============================================
tst_galx Galaxian Test ROM
gghost Goalie Ghost
alpha1v Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)
ldrun2 Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back
kyustrkr Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker
bgaregganv Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)
slipstrm Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)
slipstrmh Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)
demofist Demolish Fist
finalizr Finalizer - Super Transformation
=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]
Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.
later
-1
This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable. All the ROMS are licensed. So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised. Makes that $299 more worth the money.
Not sure if they are are aren't, what I mentioned are the ones that are supported.
The actual ROMS that are extra are:
-----------
1) Asteroids deluxe
2) Major Havoc
3) Gravitar
The rest you have to supply on your own.
later
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Well call them up and ask them to supply them. It's on their machine with an unlicensed MAME, who knows? My bet is that they are, and that bet is for the car not the house...
Post by: ark_ader on January 28, 2019, 04:43:56 am
Newflash, nobody gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about licensing.
:cheers:
Oi mate! Ya got a loicense for dem ROMs, do ya?
You do sound like a real yokel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9fHb9JN9vQ).
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 28, 2019, 11:08:35 am
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
I used to be a moderator there! :)
Post by: Malenko on January 28, 2019, 11:15:00 am
Post by: Osirus23 on January 28, 2019, 11:37:27 am
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
I used to be a moderator there! :)
Dave's Classics was my most visited site early on when I first got Internet access. As it declined I moved on to Retrogames.
Post by: ark_ader on January 28, 2019, 04:09:18 pm
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
I used to be a moderator there! :)
Dave's Classics was my most visited site early on when I first got Internet access. As it declined I moved on to Retrogames.
I also remember Emulation News, but Dave's Classics had the mame roms at the end of their website, then got into trouble, closed down and reopened into something else.
Post by: Malenko on January 28, 2019, 04:15:42 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on January 28, 2019, 05:02:42 pm
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
I used to be a moderator there! :)
Dave's Classics was my most visited site early on when I first got Internet access. As it declined I moved on to Retrogames.
I also remember Emulation News, but Dave's Classics had the mame roms at the end of their website, then got into trouble, closed down and reopened into something else.
He came back as something like Vintage Gaming Network but it was never the same.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 28, 2019, 05:09:56 pm
Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.
I used to be a moderator there! :)
Dave's Classics was my most visited site early on when I first got Internet access. As it declined I moved on to Retrogames.
Yeah, Retrogames was my homepage for several years. It was a great resource back in the day and I was quite involved in their forums.
Post by: saint on January 29, 2019, 07:53:59 am
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Back in 1997 or so, I stumbled upon a push news service, where you ran a client, and selected topics that interested you, and it would push news feeds to you in those topics.
One I chose was arcades or something similar, and it was pushing news items from EmuNews if memory serves. It basically was just taking whatever the web site posted and pushing it out to your desktop client, kind of like an RSS feed but I think it predated RSS. I once responded to one of the news items asking the EmuNews folks a question about their push service, and they had no idea what I was talking about - they didn't know their web site was being pushed out via this service. Wish I could remember the name of it. Back then it was a mind-blowing new thing, information came to me instead of me having to go find it.
Anyway, there was a story on EmuNews about MAME and Space Invaders or similar. Having grown up an arcade addict I was fascinated of course, found and downloaded MAME and a ROM, and suddenly Space Invaders was on my own computer screen.
My. Mind. Was. Blown.
*That* led me to MAME, which led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, etc.
Post by: leapinlew on January 29, 2019, 08:30:21 am
My post (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,158877.msg1676515.html#msg1676515) above was incomplete.Pre-RSS? So, this is before the Meta Content Framework was developed.... Pointcast? Backweb?
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Back in 1997 or so, I stumbled upon a push news service, where you ran a client, and selected topics that interested you, and it would push news feeds to you in those topics.
One I chose was arcades or something similar, and it was pushing news items from EmuNews if memory serves. It basically was just taking whatever the web site posted and pushing it out to your desktop client, kind of like an RSS feed but I think it predated RSS. I once responded to one of the news items asking the EmuNews folks a question about their push service, and they had no idea what I was talking about - they didn't know their web site was being pushed out via this service. Wish I could remember the name of it. Back then it was a mind-blowing new thing, information came to me instead of me having to go find it.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 29, 2019, 09:31:23 am
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Yeah, back then with EmuNews, Dave's Classics, Retrogames, Zophar's Domain, etc, there was so much energy in the community with all the developments that were happening in emulation. It was a fascinating time.
Post by: leapinlew on January 29, 2019, 12:14:29 pm
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Yeah, back then with EmuNews, Dave's Classics, Retrogames, Zophar's Domain, etc, there was so much energy in the community with all the developments that were happening in emulation. It was a fascinating time.
In the developing times of most hobbies, you see early adopters who struggle through the challenges. Invariably, someone see's the challenge as an opportunity and creates something to make the challenge easier, or removes it all together. When the challenge has been minimized, or removed, it makes the hobby more accessible. As it becomes more accessible, more people start to partake in the hobby and you start to see fractures and old school\new school trains of thought. The very name of this forum is kind of old fashioned as the "building" part of arcade games becomes less and less.
Take early mame keyboard encoders. It went from hacking keyboards to dedicated keyboard encoders to minimal cost zero delay encoders. If we were still hacking keyboards, that certainly would be a barrier of entry to many folks. I'm thankful I'm not hacking a keyboard.
The Arcade1ups are the closest thing we've seen as a commercial success for retro arcades. Even if they are unsuccessful as a business venture, they will certainly have taken demand out of the market for arcade games. I predict we'll see prices for full size games go down this year and we'll see these Arcade1ups being given away (or priced very low) as people scratch their nostalgic itch.
Personally, I like the enthusiasm, but I certainly see the novelty of my arcade lessen as the idea of an arcade in the house becomes more common.
Post by: pbj on January 29, 2019, 12:32:10 pm
I can't follow the Reddit thread at all. And I'm not sure why we keep getting screenshots of videos rather than links to videos.
Post by: saint on January 29, 2019, 02:07:36 pm
My post (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,158877.msg1676515.html#msg1676515) above was incomplete.Pre-RSS? So, this is before the Meta Content Framework was developed.... Pointcast? Backweb?
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Back in 1997 or so, I stumbled upon a push news service, where you ran a client, and selected topics that interested you, and it would push news feeds to you in those topics.
One I chose was arcades or something similar, and it was pushing news items from EmuNews if memory serves. It basically was just taking whatever the web site posted and pushing it out to your desktop client, kind of like an RSS feed but I think it predated RSS. I once responded to one of the news items asking the EmuNews folks a question about their push service, and they had no idea what I was talking about - they didn't know their web site was being pushed out via this service. Wish I could remember the name of it. Back then it was a mind-blowing new thing, information came to me instead of me having to go find it.
Post by: negative1 on January 29, 2019, 05:55:07 pm
I figure these things are going to be $50 on the resale market soon.
I can't follow the Reddit thread at all. And I'm not sure why we keep getting screenshots of videos rather than links to videos.
because everyone gripes and moans, and complains to the moderators when videos are posted.
also, the other thread got locked due to that also.
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Post by: negative1 on January 29, 2019, 06:00:02 pm
=================================
since the sky is blue, as everyone knows.
The MAME compiled on the arcade 1UP was supposed to be a subset of games
that work as licensed.
Turns out that's not the case. Upon further inspection of the MAME, which was
thought to be 0.139, it can in fact run the 4000-8000 other games listed for it.
1) Most classics run at 100% with no frame skipping
2) Many others run with frame-skipping
3) A lot of games run slowly (as expected)
4) More have audio issues
Controls can all be mapped through the USB hack, or possibly a USB encoder.
Bottom line, its STILL NOT WORTH IT to use as MAME machine stock, unless you're too poor
to use a PC, or pi instead.
It's mostly a novelty, that it can run all those games, the menu is slow loading all those games,
and it's very hit and miss what works and what doesn't.
At this point, the only thing left, is working how to map it to internal controls.
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Post by: ark_ader on January 30, 2019, 02:48:06 am
My post (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,158877.msg1676515.html#msg1676515) above was incomplete.
I think it was EmuNews that is the reason BYOAC exists.
Back in 1997 or so, I stumbled upon a push news service, where you ran a client, and selected topics that interested you, and it would push news feeds to you in those topics.
One I chose was arcades or something similar, and it was pushing news items from EmuNews if memory serves. It basically was just taking whatever the web site posted and pushing it out to your desktop client, kind of like an RSS feed but I think it predated RSS. I once responded to one of the news items asking the EmuNews folks a question about their push service, and they had no idea what I was talking about - they didn't know their web site was being pushed out via this service. Wish I could remember the name of it. Back then it was a mind-blowing new thing, information came to me instead of me having to go find it.
Anyway, there was a story on EmuNews about MAME and Space Invaders or similar. Having grown up an arcade addict I was fascinated of course, found and downloaded MAME and a ROM, and suddenly Space Invaders was on my own computer screen.
My. Mind. Was. Blown.
*That* led me to MAME, which led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, etc.
I remember a long while back there was a guy that built a small arcade cabinet with a joystick in the middle of it, it was yellow and it was for his kids. He had his plans on his website. I tried looking back in my archives and the way back machine. This is a shot in the dark, but was that you Saint?
Post by: saint on January 30, 2019, 06:52:55 am
Post by: JDFan on January 30, 2019, 08:36:12 am
Not me. Not ringing a bell either.
Think he might mean Vigo -- and his Vigolix build ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119533.msg1267233.html#msg1267233 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119533.msg1267233.html#msg1267233) ) - the original wasn't yellow but I seem to remem ber one that was (there are several other builds based on that shape)
EDIT : Found the one I think he was talking about - I believe it was the "Yellow Fever Hybrid" Vigolix build by Locke141 ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,140348.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,140348.0.html) )
Post by: Mr. Peabody on February 01, 2019, 01:56:23 pm
And if they drop to $100 or so I might pick one up to hack.
But....have you finished your game room?
because everyone gripes and moans, and complains to the moderators when videos are posted.
also, the other thread got locked due to that also.
Videos don't embed so why bother?
Post by: negative1 on February 01, 2019, 02:05:54 pm
And if they drop to $100 or so I might pick one up to hack.
But....have you finished your game room?
because everyone gripes and moans, and complains to the moderators when videos are posted.
also, the other thread got locked due to that also.
Videos don't embed so why bother?
some people actually do click on links.
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Post by: negative1 on February 02, 2019, 03:44:44 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/)
(https://i.imgur.com/c2rMmXF.jpg)
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Post by: ark_ader on February 02, 2019, 04:33:56 pm
thats interesting to put buttons on the side to play virtual pinball...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/)
(https://i.imgur.com/c2rMmXF.jpg)
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My tastes run to the exotic.
https://learn.adafruit.com/pinball-controll-ipad/duo-pinball-teardown (https://learn.adafruit.com/pinball-controll-ipad/duo-pinball-teardown)
I want to 3d print a housing that will add the plunger. Then use the tinkerboard via lolipop to use vpin via dvi on the led board.
OR just use the pinball controller as is and add a usb port to the 1up CP.
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 02, 2019, 07:23:09 pm
Post by: jennifer on February 03, 2019, 02:02:18 am
thats interesting to put buttons on the side to play virtual pinball...:laugh2: :dizzy: :laugh2: :laugh2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/amht4y/modded_my_cab_to_play_some_virtual_pinball/)
(https://i.imgur.com/c2rMmXF.jpg)
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Post by: negative1 on February 03, 2019, 12:51:15 pm
https://www.target.com/p/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-at-home-arcade-game/-/A-54281465 (https://www.target.com/p/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-at-home-arcade-game/-/A-54281465)
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Post by: Nephasth on February 03, 2019, 01:39:15 pm
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_b9314ade-9c51-444e-af35-f886a54334f2?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
Blocking the dartboard is a cardinal sin!
And 2 player Asteroids...
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_5e9b57da-86a7-40af-947c-6eefdbcfa985?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
Post by: jennifer on February 03, 2019, 03:10:40 pm
Man, ---fudgesicle--- these guys.I wonder if those are the same guys that play vertical pinball.... OMG, I have been laughing for two days, :duckhunt
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_b9314ade-9c51-444e-af35-f886a54334f2?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
Blocking the dartboard is a cardinal sin!
And 2 player Asteroids...
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_5e9b57da-86a7-40af-947c-6eefdbcfa985?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
Post by: negative1 on February 03, 2019, 07:53:30 pm
Man, ---fudgesicle--- these guys.
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_b9314ade-9c51-444e-af35-f886a54334f2?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
Blocking the dartboard is a cardinal sin!
And 2 player Asteroids...
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_5e9b57da-86a7-40af-947c-6eefdbcfa985?wid=1400&fmt=webp)
---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
maybe the darts will hit the machine.
anyways, this whole talk about toys reminds me:
(http://www.atarimania.com/pubs/hi_res/this_is_not_a_toy_ad.jpg)
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Post by: negative1 on February 03, 2019, 07:56:52 pm
I wonder if those are the same guys that play vertical pinball.... OMG, I have been laughing for two days, :duckhunt
i play williams pinball arcade quite a bit on my xbox 360 and xbox one, and plan to play them on the
arcade 1up also.
my x-arcade controller, has 2 buttons on the side of the controller for pinball games that works with vpin MAME,
and other visual pinball emulators.
==================
on a completely unrelated note, a 3rd party drop in Spinner replacement should be out this month,
about 100 units. good for people that want something better without worrying all the wiring, getting the
controls, testing, etc.
settings available
(https://i.postimg.cc/fTt7hFZb/spinner-adjust.jpg)
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Post by: jennifer on February 03, 2019, 08:56:13 pm
Post by: negative1 on February 03, 2019, 10:39:22 pm
It works for you I supose...But the cold hard truth is you can't replace a real silverball with a simulation, much less vertical...And take a look at just how stupid two full grown adults look crowded around that tiny cab, guess they could be having fun, But looks seriously uncomfortable.
it's meant for kids remember.
adults don't have friends. so they end up playing it alone, mostly (sarcasm).
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Post by: ark_ader on February 04, 2019, 02:37:14 am
Man, ---fudgesicle--- these guys.I wonder if those are the same guys that play vertical pinball.... OMG, I have been laughing for two days, :duckhunt
<Image remove for sanity>
Blocking the dartboard is a cardinal sin!
And 2 player Asteroids...
<Image remove for sanity>
---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
You must not get out much. ::)
It is not ideal playing vpin on a horizontal monitor. I have the pinball simulator on the PS3, and as it is not the same as a real pinball machine, at least I can get a game of Funhouse, without resorting to shelling out 5K on the original with a ---smurfy--- refurbed play field.
Post by: jennifer on February 04, 2019, 05:14:34 am
Post by: Mr. Peabody on February 04, 2019, 04:19:25 pm
Man, ---fudgesicle--- these guys.
Blocking the dartboard is a cardinal sin!
And 2 player Asteroids...
That guy will be a hunchback by 40, and perpetually looking at the ground by 60.
And take a look at just how stupid two full grown adults look crowded around that tiny cab, guess they could be having fun, But looks seriously uncomfortable.
They're sitting. What do you want, a Barcalounger?
Post by: RandyT on February 04, 2019, 11:04:27 pm
on a completely unrelated note, a 3rd party drop in Spinner replacement should be out this month
There's already one (https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412) out. ;)
Post by: negative1 on February 04, 2019, 11:49:10 pm
on a completely unrelated note, a 3rd party drop in Spinner replacement should be out this month
There's already one (https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412) out. ;)
nice, good heads up.
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Post by: negative1 on February 05, 2019, 06:36:00 pm
on a completely unrelated note, a 3rd party drop in Spinner replacement should be out this month
There's already one (https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412) out. ;)
nice, good heads up.
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a review of the unit here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159506.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159506.0.html)
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Post by: negative1 on February 16, 2019, 02:43:48 pm
reddit :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/aran9v/i_got_a_version_20_asteroids_cabinet_here_is_a/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/aran9v/i_got_a_version_20_asteroids_cabinet_here_is_a/)
user : ruinedxistenz
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I got a "version 2.0" Asteroids cabinet. Here is a list of the changes I discovered from launch cabinets, most are very positive!
Control panel, kick panel, and both side panels appear to have a thin plastic protective coating; this one has an ultra smooth and slippery surface that feels a lot different from the launch CPs. Upside is that you probably don't need the plexiglass protector anymore with this. Downside is 3/4 of the pieces with this finish I found an occasional hard "bubble," and also the artwork seems to pop a bit less as it adds a slight haze to it. I can't really take a good picture of this coating, but the difference between it and the original painted panels is significantly different in both look and feel - very little friction - feels slippery, doesn't feel like paint will come off at any moment, but a bit duller color.
The little white plug power cable holder which fills the hole in the back panel of the cabinet is now a slightly smaller black plug. I didn't find much difference, maybe just a part change.
The Arcade1up sticker on the top back panel now is now much smaller - it only takes up 1/4 of the right side of that panel, instead of a centered sticker that takes up 3/4 of the panel as was the case with the launch units.
The unit is packed differently; there are new kinds of packing foam employed and more pieces are individually wrapped in plastic instead of just being wrapped together. Pieces are now also in different boxes, for instance the marquee is packed with the monitor, facing outwards with no other wood near it; the original packing had the marquee amongst a bunch of smaller panels in a different box, with the face of the marquee up against more wood - which resulted in friction and scratches in transit. The infamous and useless gold stickers on the outside are gone, and this is definitely not a return as direct from Target.com and packed immaculately.
The monitor had a QC approved sticker on the back, which I don't recall from my previous 5 assemblies - maybe it was there but I don't remember it. The monitor is literally perfect - zero dead pixels, zero stuck pixels, zero light bleed. Note after buying 7 cabinets total, this is the *only* cabinet that had a perfect monitor - at the minimum virtually all of them have some amount of light bleed. The ribbon cable is now also taped to the back of the monitor for transit, which also is new I believe.
Since its Asteroids I will add its still the same old crummy spinner, though its a bit looser and easier to turn than the launch unit I returned - still has the detents and nowhere near a real spinner, but this is easily replaceable now with 3rd party alternatives. And the sound still lags with no high score saving - so they didn't change the electronics basics.
These changes overall add up to a much lesser chance of getting a damaged unit that will last longer over time without getting banged up. In fact, aside from the air bubbles possibly caused by the new plastic coating process this cabinet had by far the least damage, almost perfect in fact. I will probably ask for replacement CP as it has a chip under the sticker (didn't happen during shipping) and quite a lot of air bubbles - but many probably would be ok with what I got as its not super noticeable.
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sounds promising.
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Post by: negative1 on February 16, 2019, 05:13:47 pm
https://toybook.com/the-toy-association-awards-2019-toty-winners/
(https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52025791_559221564573874_4838620588425609216_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fhou1-2.fna&oh=42c7c4c8da8e672ae5d8a5f2d2763240&oe=5CE2118A)
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Post by: yotsuya on February 16, 2019, 06:06:16 pm
Post by: leapinlew on February 16, 2019, 09:22:40 pm
Oh, I call it a toy and some of y’all get all bent...... :)
Zing!
I’m pretty sure when you are calling it a toy, you are putting some hot sauce on it. ;)
Post by: negative1 on February 19, 2019, 07:05:38 pm
$50, with links on amazon at some point.
There is a small fee for the encoder board for the 12-1 though.
more details on that at some point.
check out glens retro show channel for more details on youtube.
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 20, 2019, 09:32:52 am
the third party spinner replacement should be out in another week or so,
$50, with links on amazon at some point.
We already have one from a trusted source.
https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412
Post by: leapinlew on February 20, 2019, 04:34:56 pm
the third party spinner replacement should be out in another week or so,
$50, with links on amazon at some point.
We already have one from a trusted source.
https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412
That was a smart move by Randy.
Post by: pbj on February 20, 2019, 05:50:45 pm
Post by: negative1 on February 20, 2019, 06:22:13 pm
the third party spinner replacement should be out in another week or so,
$50, with links on amazon at some point.
We already have one from a trusted source.
https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=412
it's good to have choices,
and these also will work with raspberry pi, pc's, etc, and
will also allow the trackball on the 12-1 to work.
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Post by: negative1 on February 20, 2019, 06:23:16 pm
stock boards, BerryBerry has a method to convert the files now:
(https://i.redd.it/j68b5zk9tsh21.png)
(https://i.redd.it/m4oftnvzwsh21.png)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/asv44/how_to_convert_arcade1up_menu_screens_tofrom/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/asv44/how_to_convert_arcade1up_menu_screens_tofrom/)
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Post by: SlammedNiss on February 20, 2019, 06:44:54 pm
Post by: leapinlew on February 20, 2019, 07:33:39 pm
At this point, if the SF2 dropped back to $150 I'd get one just to mod it and have a cheap cab.
I really think you'll be able to buy one much cheaper in no time. They made a ton of these and the novelty will run out sooner or later. I suspect we'll see these in the "haul away for free" category soon enough.
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 20, 2019, 11:25:53 pm
Post by: leapinlew on February 21, 2019, 06:56:53 pm
Eh I dunno. I think they'll most likely be played until they fall apart (which shouldn't take long) and hauled away in the trash.
As someone who's put together about 10 of these, I think the construction of them isn't that bad. It's 1/2" MDF for the sides. They could've done better than the 1/8" front plate, but it's not too bad for the money.
Post by: yotsuya on February 21, 2019, 09:59:53 pm
Eh I dunno. I think they'll most likely be played until they fall apart (which shouldn't take long) and hauled away in the trash.
As someone who's put together about 10 of these, I think the construction of them isn't that bad. It's 1/2" MDF for the sides. They could've done better than the 1/8" front plate, but it's not too bad for the money.
10 of them? Who are you, -1?
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 21, 2019, 10:06:19 pm
Post by: negative1 on February 22, 2019, 11:51:16 am
They are down to $199 again at Walmart. If they get to $100 I'll pick one up and not until.... just don't seem to be worth more than that to me.
They're still $299 at most places, except for Asteroids which seems to be $249.
I paid $100 for Pac-Man, and that was all I was going to get.
If the countercades and walcades come out in May, will wait for the prices on those,
and decide if they're worth it or not too.
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Post by: JDFan on February 22, 2019, 11:55:46 am
They are down to $199 again at Walmart. If they get to $100 I'll pick one up and not until.... just don't seem to be worth more than that to me.
They're still $299 at most places, except for Asteroids which seems to be $249.
I paid $100 for Pac-Man, and that was all I was going to get.
If the countercades and walcades come out in May, will wait for the prices on those,
and decide if they're worth it or not too.
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Walmarts all around here have the Asteroids or Centipede cabs at $199 - ( $229 and $249 online) and pretty much all the others have gone back to $299 (Glad I got mine while they were down to $150 ) Will be interesting to see what happens when they bring out the new cabs (whether they will clear out the old ones to make room or just let them sit till sold.) and how much shelf space they will give A1U for all the various formats ( wallcade,countercade, 3/4 size, misc addons)
Post by: negative1 on February 26, 2019, 03:28:51 pm
from the creator thats selling them.
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The first 120 units have been presold already.
There should be more coming shortly.
These work on both machines, but you still have to wait
for a 12-1 adapter to use with the trackball.
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Post by: negative1 on March 10, 2019, 07:00:24 pm
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P5WJ7BC?ref=myi_title_dp&fbclid=IwAR0GslO6g-fxJWrACUcX7EQVlW0Cp425-AxQ2D7GZGBckBPPypAg0LuGNqU
if you have a 12-1, there will be another board for $8-$10 to allow the trackball to work.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51pq5xK9xlL._SL1000_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518S3Xaj6BL._SL1000_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61XPgjZwlhL._SL1000_.jpg)
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Post by: Mr. Peabody on March 11, 2019, 09:12:51 pm
Post by: leapinlew on March 11, 2019, 10:28:58 pm
I’d like to get my hands on it to see how it feels.
Post by: JDFan on March 11, 2019, 11:29:27 pm
So who's going to hack this [good looking] spinner for MAME?
In a few weeks they will have an addon board for the 12 in 1 that also has a USB port - so it will be able to work on PC and Rpi through USB connection. So a new $60 spinner ( $50 + $10 for the addon board) that is useable in Mame.
Post by: SlammedNiss on March 12, 2019, 03:36:31 am
I’d like to get my hands on it to see how it feels.Funny I used to say the same thing as a young teenage boy.
Post by: RandyT on March 12, 2019, 02:18:50 pm
$50!
I’d like to get my hands on it to see how it feels.
I'm more curious about how it performs. The heart of it seems to be a $2 hall effect chip and a magnet. Definitely not a true arcade spinner with regard to the technology it uses, and the A/D conversion could induce some lag and inaccuracies. It depends on how well it's implemented, and whether the hardware is up to this kind of task. I know there are accurate magnetic encoders out there meant for oily/grimy conditions, but they are very expensive. I'm assuming this isn't the same technology.
Post by: yotsuya on March 13, 2019, 12:37:16 am
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190313/3f5bab9c48d769ac8dc2da3d553b11ed.jpg)
Post by: leapinlew on March 13, 2019, 06:13:20 am
Post by: pbj on March 13, 2019, 10:46:26 am
I'm more curious about how it performs. The heart of it seems to be a $2 hall effect chip and a magnet. Definitely not a true arcade spinner with regard to the technology it uses, and the A/D conversion could induce some lag and inaccuracies.
Salty, salty.
;D
Post by: RandyT on March 13, 2019, 12:39:50 pm
Salty, salty.
;D
Not at all. I just feel that something shouldn't be called something it's not, while at the same time tossing a "backdoor jab" at extremely accurate, tried, true and more costly technology, in an attempt to mislead folks into thinking something is better than it in likelihood can be. I guess you had to watch the latest video.
The first spinner I ever made was an cheap optical mouse unit aimed at a rotating cylinder on a weighted shaft with a knob. It worked, and it was technically a spinner, but it wasn't close to offering the same level of precision as a proper arcade spinner. If one is moving from the stock spinner on these units, just about anything is better, but that thing should, IMHO, be presented for what it actually is. If that is "salty" to you, I guess I'm "Lot's wife" :)
Post by: negative1 on March 17, 2019, 01:40:10 am
on amazon along with the replacement spinner.
about 140 sold out in 4 hours for the spinner, but there should be more
coming up on amazon shortly.
reviews have been positive so far.
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Post by: leapinlew on March 17, 2019, 10:21:16 am
reviews have been positive so far.
Reviews have been something to the effect of "Way better than the stock spinner". The stock spinner is such a low bar, it shouldn't even be considered a spinner, so I'm not so sure how well those reviews translate towards an authentic arcade experience. I'd like someone who has experience with the original tempest and turbo twist provide a review. I'm sort of interested but I built a spinner cabinet back in the day and ultimately quit playing it because those aren't the games I enjoy playing. I had no complaints with the TT2, and would gladly use it again. I also built a steering wheel encoder and because the weight of the wheel masked the lack of weight on the hacked mouse, it worked well also. I'd love to get my hands on one to test it, but have no interest in purchasing it.
Post by: negative1 on March 17, 2019, 04:42:02 pm
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-pac-man-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-black/6333621.p?skuId=6333621
(https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6333/6333621_rd.jpg)
kinda pricey though.
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Post by: jennifer on March 17, 2019, 11:37:06 pm
Post by: daywane on March 18, 2019, 01:28:33 am
Yes I think there junk inside. I knew this at purchasing. My 1st one lasted 2 weeks and the monitor gave out. Wife bought it for me. $200.00
She knew I love to tinker with arcades.
I have 2 PAC-MAN's , 1 Street Fighter 2 , 1 Galaga , and just bought Centipede.
I have tracked down 5 - 17 inch dell monitors. $6.00 each.
Street Fighter is getting a HP I5 PC. Windows 7, MAME version 137. With launch box. I might switch to Atomic FE
The reason I have 2 pacman is monitor gave out. I bought a 2nd one to swap out monitors.
1UP customer service is a joke. I was going to return the pacman . Wife looked at me and said ... You want to mod it don't you? Yep! Happy Birthday!
I am 54 today .😎
I am thinking raspberry pie for this one. But if I have much more problems with attract mode I am going with HP I3 windows 7. Way over kill for 5 or 6 four way joystick games.
The overlays 1up is sending out are a joke I think.
I am coating my cabs with a few coats of clear coat.
I did not purchase any riser's. I am building 1 long riser.
Yes these are toys. But at 54 I can pick them up and move them around. And I can improve them.
Post by: SlammedNiss on March 18, 2019, 01:59:55 am
The overlays 1up is sending out are a joke I think.They are also no longer free, but charging almost $30 shipped for them.
(https://i.imgur.com/LXcoRVL.png)
Post by: daywane on March 18, 2019, 06:23:54 am
sad but true
Post by: RandyT on March 18, 2019, 12:50:05 pm
Reviews have been something to the effect of "Way better than the stock spinner". The stock spinner is such a low bar, it shouldn't even be considered a spinner, so I'm not so sure how well those reviews translate towards an authentic arcade experience.
That's pretty much my take on it. When I see the videos of it in action, a quick flick seems to translate to a lag with a ramp up of motion. This is likely due to the fact that those inexpensive hall-effect devices are angle sensors, which take over half a millisecond just to get a change in position report once requested (it doesn't sound like a lot, but it is in this application), and not true step and direction sensors. With a high-resolution device like the TT2, you can literally have 1200 transitions occur in a tiny fraction of a second. When I develop an interface for an optical device, I literally spend hours testing to make sure that when it is "snapped" from one position to another, it comes back to the same position in which it started.
The lower-cost approach seems to work fine for smaller and slower movements, but based on what I am seeing, I still have my doubts as to how well they perform for something where fast positional accuracy is important. I.e. the same concerns I had with my old optical mouse experiment, which led me to discard the notion of it being a viable solution.
*edit* I guess I should have finished watching the latest video. That would have never left my bench in that state. The excuses provided are a bit on the weak side as well, but I'm not engineering this thing so who knows.
Post by: pbj on March 18, 2019, 12:57:51 pm
in my day the arcade game was not worth playing unless it had cigarette burns on it. the longer the burn mark the better the game :laugh2:
sad but true
You know, you're right. Not something I thought about or really noticed, but I think it's self evident when you see the games that had control panel overlays made for them. Nobody was bothering with those for games like Zarzon.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on March 18, 2019, 05:38:15 pm
in my day the arcade game was not worth playing unless it had cigarette burns on it. the longer the burn mark the better the game :laugh2:
sad but true
You know, you're right. Not something I thought about or really noticed, but I think it's self evident when you see the games that had control panel overlays made for them. Nobody was bothering with those for games like Zarzon.
In these parts, a 'relic'd' thing was unsavory. Good arcades kept up their machines.
Post by: negative1 on March 18, 2019, 08:28:38 pm
$380 5/5
galaga:
https://www.gamestop.com/toys/galaga-home-arcade-with-riser/174186
(https://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/193551b.jpg)
pac-man:
https://www.gamestop.com/toys/pac-man-home-arcade-with-riser/174185
(https://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/193550b.jpg)
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Post by: JDFan on March 18, 2019, 08:37:01 pm
Gamestop listing the pac-man and galaga with themed risers:
$380 5/5
WHen you put the pacman or Galaga in the cart right now it gives you :
Quote
20% off $100+ Collectibles Purchase - Get 20% off your collectibles purchase when you spend $100+ on collectibles! Some exclusions apply. Applicable to physical in-stock items ONLY. Offer valid _. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. - Pac-Man Home Arcade with Riser
So that drops the price to $303.99 - Not sure if they'll change that if they see it so if you plan to order you might want to do it now !
Post by: negative1 on March 23, 2019, 02:58:06 pm
they are also planning to make a replacement trackball also, no price yet.
---
in other upgrades and improvements, looks like there are reports of Arcade 1UP using real
T-molding in some cabinets, like the Street Fighter 2 one, and perhaps other ones for
future releases.
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Post by: daywane on March 23, 2019, 11:42:06 pm
My Nintendo VS was the first cab that hurt my back. I had over a grand invested in modding this cab and gave it away. I could no longer move it.
Now I own 5 1UP cabs.
Yes I think there junky. But are perfect for modding . I see them as cabarets.
I just purchased a Ms PAC complete art set. $150.00. I am adding dell monitor's .
Replacing buttons with quality buttons and quality joystick bought from venders here.
I am using HP I5 computers and MAME.
My street fighter cab was done with ETA Prime set up. Zero delay. This got me back into modding
The Ms PAC will have a pie 3 with game pad hacks ( just for the fun of it)
1UP as a company really suck ass.
All 5 of my cabs were on sale for $200.00
I think the cabs are with that simply for the fun of redoing them and still light enough for me to move with out weeks of pain afterwards.
Post by: Mike A on March 23, 2019, 11:57:52 pm
Post by: Malenko on March 24, 2019, 12:11:59 am
Woodford is a good one. I went high octane tonight with Booker's.
Had bookers at my bachelor party, shits like rocket fuel
Post by: pbj on March 24, 2019, 12:17:34 am
:cheers:
Post by: opt2not on March 24, 2019, 12:22:03 am
Woodford is a good one. I went high octane tonight with Booker's.
Had bookers at my bachelor party, shits like rocket fuel
Wait what? You drank??
Post by: leapinlew on March 24, 2019, 12:26:10 am
Woodford is a good one. I went high octane tonight with Booker's.
Had bookers at my bachelor party, shits like rocket fuel
Wait what? You drank??
And you aren’t married already?
Congrats. I’ll admit, in this thread I did not see this coming.
Post by: Mike A on March 24, 2019, 12:27:10 am
Post by: daywane on March 24, 2019, 12:27:19 am
Woodford is a 20 min drive.
Fire ball is my drink for now
I also make my own wine
Lovers leap vineyard is next door to me. Well a 10 min walk
Post by: opt2not on March 24, 2019, 12:33:03 am
PBJ that sounds like a really unlikely combination. It really works together? If so is there a commercial cider similar to your hooch? It sounds like an unholy combination, but I am game for something new.
I believe it’s called a snakebite. I haven’t had one in decades but I remember it being not my thang. But a pbj snakebite sounds like it’ll have extra bite!
Post by: negative1 on March 24, 2019, 04:32:40 pm
I have a real arcade. Ms Pac-man. I have had it for years. I have had many real cabs.
My Nintendo VS was the first cab that hurt my back. I had over a grand invested in modding this cab and gave it away. I could no longer move it.
Now I own 5 1UP cabs.
Yes I think there junky. But are perfect for modding . I see them as cabarets.
I just purchased a Ms PAC complete art set. $150.00. I am adding dell monitor's .
Replacing buttons with quality buttons and quality joystick bought from venders here.
I am using HP I5 computers and MAME.
My street fighter cab was done with ETA Prime set up. Zero delay. This got me back into modding
The Ms PAC will have a pie 3 with game pad hacks ( just for the fun of it)
1UP as a company really suck ass.
All 5 of my cabs were on sale for $200.00
I think the cabs are with that simply for the fun of redoing them and still light enough for me to move with out weeks of pain afterwards.
i agree. i only have 1 that i bought for modding, and thats its.
i would never buy another one stock. there aren't any more titles that interest me.
i thought about getting the 12-1 to mod, but instead am getting a cocktail cabinet kit
from one of the vendors on here, but it's been 2 months without a reply, so i keep up
with the arcade 1up news.
i'm interested in the replacement parts, because they tend to be cheaper than getting
the real things, and they will work with USB controls, for the pc i will be using for
emulation.
USB spinners like this magnet one might not be comparable to the real optical ones,
but for most people they will never notice the difference. i have 2 real spinners in
my blasteroids cabinet, so i know how those feel, compared to the cheap USB spinner
i use now for emulation.
so yeah, i am interested in updates to the controls, and i'm sure anyone else modding
them is also.
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Post by: leapinlew on March 24, 2019, 04:40:31 pm
Post by: pbj on March 25, 2019, 11:36:29 am
PBJ that sounds like a really unlikely combination. It really works together? If so is there a commercial cider similar to your hooch? It sounds like an unholy combination, but I am game for something new.
I believe it’s called a snakebite. I haven’t had one in decades but I remember it being not my thang. But a pbj snakebite sounds like it’ll have extra bite!
Yeah, it's more or less a snakebite. Really more of a Black Velvet because of the strength of my cider/apple wine. And the laziness of my pouring.
Magner's Irish Cider is the closest I've tasted to what I'm making. I used to like Strongbow but they quit selling it here, all you can get is sugar water versions. Austin Eastcider pretty decent, too.
Anyway, they're refreshing and you won't get too wobbly.
:cheers:
Post by: Mike A on March 25, 2019, 11:41:49 am
Post by: yotsuya on March 25, 2019, 11:44:00 am
Thanks. I needed to head to the liquor store anyways. I will just add to my list.
Keep it in the brown paper bag, it makes it more authentic.
Post by: Mike A on March 25, 2019, 11:45:48 am
Post by: Mr. Peabody on March 25, 2019, 07:58:35 pm
Post by: opt2not on March 25, 2019, 08:16:31 pm
Post by: pbj on March 25, 2019, 09:09:56 pm
:cheers:
Post by: negative1 on March 25, 2019, 10:49:34 pm
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Deluxe-Edition-12-in-1-Arcade-System-with-Riser-Arcade1Up-Atari-Graphics-815221025172/827734225
so the clearance still goes on.
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Post by: jennifer on March 26, 2019, 12:38:29 am
Post by: negative1 on March 26, 2019, 08:11:25 pm
some people have been able to purchase new cabinets of space invaders for $199.
which isn't too bad a price.
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Post by: yotsuya on March 26, 2019, 08:48:19 pm
I don't even buy my bloomers at Walmart anymore because they are much too close to that stupid Arcade1 sawdust freakshow (although back there by the cheap shoes I'd a good place for them IMO), ... As for the ones I did buy back in the begining, finally just dropped them off behind the Goodwill to get rid of them....Jennifer has left the building.
Bloomers or Arcade1Ups at the Goodwill?
Post by: leapinlew on March 26, 2019, 09:36:14 pm
Seeing how fast the cheapy spinner sells out, I'd say there are quite a few owners of the Asteroids cabinet. It's my least favorite cabinet and when I sold one (new) I could only get $100.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5WJ7BC
I still can't tell if it's good or not.
Post by: daywane on March 27, 2019, 11:08:49 am
group hug!
Post by: saint on March 27, 2019, 08:21:38 pm
then be the bigger person and let it drop :cheers:
group hug!
Post by: negative1 on March 27, 2019, 08:31:21 pm
https://www.rakuten.com/shop/gamercandy/product/815221026957/?SCID=em_Promotional_20190326_Dedicated&infy=1396435065
and some discounts on older ones.
--------
Arcade1Up - Deluxe Edition 12-in-1 Arcade Cabinet with Riser
old price $399.99
$319.99
$289.99 w/ code GAMER30B
SALE
Arcade1Up - Asteroids Arcade Cabinet
old price $249.99
$211.99 w/ code GAMER38
Arcade1Up - Pac-Man Arcade Cabinet with Riser
$379.99
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Post by: DrakeTungsten on March 28, 2019, 12:07:31 am
Post by: leapinlew on March 29, 2019, 07:36:55 pm
Right now, they are competing on price with Bestbuy and Gamestop for a new Pacman + riser combo and Space Invaders. It just doesn't make sense to me why they would buy them, start putting them on clearance a few days after release, raise the prices back up, lower them again, and continue to sell the 2nd wave.
In my local area, my Walmart prices on the Arcade1up would change all the time. The price would go down to 249, then back up to 299. Back and forth, as low as $175. Right now, they are all normal full price except for Asteroids. It's $229.
It's just goofy.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on April 01, 2019, 03:49:12 pm
I think you mean Crown Royal, the Canadian export that people outside of Canada thinks is good whiskey. Unless that's what they call it in the USA...kinda like how americans changed French Fries to Freedom Fries. :lol
You can tell I'm not a drinker.....
I'm kind of surprised to see Wal-mart continuing to sell the A1UP stuff.
Right now, they are competing on price with Bestbuy and Gamestop for a new Pacman + riser combo and Space Invaders. It just doesn't make sense to me why they would buy them, start putting them on clearance a few days after release, raise the prices back up, lower them again, and continue to sell the 2nd wave.
In my local area, my Walmart prices on the Arcade1up would change all the time. The price would go down to 249, then back up to 299. Back and forth, as low as $175. Right now, they are all normal full price except for Asteroids. It's $229.
It's just goofy.
It's the crazy AI. Having a round with you.
Post by: negative1 on April 06, 2019, 04:40:16 pm
Will have to wait on the USB replacement board for 12-1 as they have to make adjustments on it.
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Post by: negative1 on April 10, 2019, 06:24:11 pm
it will need a software fix to accomodate lag though:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NKJ3SKH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Compatible with Arcade1Up Asteroid Unit, 12 in 1 Deluxe Unit and 6 in 1 Unit
1. Glen's Retro Show reviewed
2. Allow you to connect Arcade1Up stock trackball and spinner
3. Plug and play
4. No soldering and wire cutting
5. Ability to convert stock spinner and trackball data into mouse cursor
6. Compatible with Windows, Linux, Android, OS
7. Review & installation video: https://youtu.be/S8Q7cOj8R9g
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Post by: RandyT on April 11, 2019, 01:06:35 pm
The 8ms thing is also farcical. I've noticed no such delays on the A1UP machines. The reports from the controls can be sent a few thousand times per second, which equates to about .3ms. And even if there was, 8ms lag is such a small amount of time, it would never manifest itself as the cause of the issues being discussed. Unless, there were 8ms lag between each 1 position change, with the input being buffered and the movements being spilled out for some time after cease of movement. The pitch man for this item clearly has no idea what is going on "under the hood" and is relaying what is likely a made up excuse from the manufacturer for the performance issues.
Once Thunderstick (Chinese manufacturer) gets the bugs ironed out to the extent that they can with this technology, I predict that these units will litter the Chinese arcade parts landscape through multiple sellers, just like the "Zero Delay" encoders, Sanwa-clones, etc. So it probably won't be "his" for long ;)
Post by: negative1 on April 12, 2019, 01:04:34 pm
it seems they sell in batches of 500, and have sold out a few times now.
the 12-1 board is in stock though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKJ3SKH/?coliid=I2COG8BI2O4M9I
so far reviews have been positive.
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Post by: Osirus23 on April 12, 2019, 01:28:41 pm
Post by: RandyT on April 12, 2019, 02:33:22 pm
the replacement spinner has been in and of out of stock lately.
it seems they sell in batches of 500, and have sold out a few times now.
There's a lot of assumptions being posted about these items which go uncorrected. :) The first "pre-sell" was only a little over 100 units, so it looks more like the total was 500 and they are trickling in.
Post by: coasterlvr on April 12, 2019, 03:32:33 pm
the replacement spinner has been in and of out of stock lately.
it seems they sell in batches of 500, and have sold out a few times now.
the 12-1 board is in stock though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKJ3SKH/?coliid=I2COG8BI2O4M9I
so far reviews have been positive.
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i honestly have a hard time believing they sold 500 spinners. very few people showing their spinners installed but 70? sold personally from glen already?
Post by: Mike A on April 12, 2019, 03:34:40 pm
Post by: opt2not on April 12, 2019, 03:41:49 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on April 12, 2019, 03:42:15 pm
I just don't understand why there needs to be 2 threads advertising this.
What? I'm told there's so much interest here that this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- needs its own forum. :lol
Post by: wp34 on April 12, 2019, 03:58:09 pm
I just don't understand why there needs to be 2 threads advertising this.
What? I'm told there's so much interest here that this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- needs its own forum. :lol
I suggested it get its own forum so I could add that forum to my ignore list. Totally self-serving suggestion.
Post by: leapinlew on April 12, 2019, 04:06:06 pm
Just deal with it losers.
Post by: yotsuya on April 12, 2019, 04:27:51 pm
Post by: JDFan on April 12, 2019, 05:22:17 pm
the replacement spinner has been in and of out of stock lately.
it seems they sell in batches of 500, and have sold out a few times now.
the 12-1 board is in stock though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKJ3SKH/?coliid=I2COG8BI2O4M9I
so far reviews have been positive.
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i honestly have a hard time believing they sold 500 spinners. very few people showing their spinners installed but 70? sold personally from glen already?
THe pre-orders were initially going to be a QTy of 100 which then got increased to 150 - then they decided to increase the initial production to 500 --- of which they had a list of 180 that sold over Glen's site and the rest they sent to Amazon - Amazon sold those in a few batches with different in stock dates ( first ones said in stock April 17th then it went to april 24th then it went to Out of Stock again) over the course of a few hours when the listing finally went live. SO it would seem the initial product run of 500 has sold and now it depends on how many they decide to produce again for going forward and is out of stock until they produce more.
500 is not really a large amount ( figure thats only around 10 per State ) for a product that was made for 3 of the released cabs and as bad as the initial spinner was it's not surprising there would be many of those that bought them looking to improve the gameplay.
Post by: wp34 on April 12, 2019, 05:44:01 pm
I had suggested they ban some elitist members because they add no value here, and yet....
Just deal with it losers.
Please don't lump me in with the pearl clutchers. I wanted to be able to ignore the complaining about Arcade 1UP's.
Post by: coasterlvr on April 12, 2019, 05:53:39 pm
the replacement spinner has been in and of out of stock lately.
it seems they sell in batches of 500, and have sold out a few times now.
the 12-1 board is in stock though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKJ3SKH/?coliid=I2COG8BI2O4M9I
so far reviews have been positive.
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i honestly have a hard time believing they sold 500 spinners. very few people showing their spinners installed but 70? sold personally from glen already?
THe pre-orders were initially going to be a QTy of 100 which then got increased to 150 - then they decided to increase the initial production to 500 --- of which they had a list of 180 that sold over Glen's site and the rest they sent to Amazon - Amazon sold those in a few batches with different in stock dates ( first ones said in stock April 17th then it went to april 24th then it went to Out of Stock again) over the course of a few hours when the listing finally went live. SO it would seem the initial product run of 500 has sold and now it depends on how many they decide to produce again for going forward and is out of stock until they produce more.
500 is not really a large amount ( figure thats only around 10 per State ) for a product that was made for 3 of the released cabs and as bad as the initial spinner was it's not surprising there would be many of those that bought them looking to improve the gameplay.
it was 118, glen said he had for sale. i understand the numbers logic, but still have a hard time believing it. maybe if randyt says he's sold 100 or his, then i guess i could believe it. right now, i just think there's some weird crap going on with amazon and the product/company.
Post by: opt2not on April 12, 2019, 06:50:11 pm
I had suggested they ban some elitist members because they add no value here, and yet....
Just deal with it losers.
C'mon man, no forum rule was violated to suggest a ban. Complaining about these or any other product doesn't merit a ban, whether you like it or not.
And as for value, when was the last time you actually helped a member here on their projects? I would respectfully suggest, rather trying to justify your own purchase and trying to be a champion for A1up, how about you take your own self-advice you stated in that other thread and take a step back from trying to be a hero for this product. It's not a good look, man.
MikeA and a few others who have complained about these things are constantly helping people on their projects. Mike does a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin----ton of work for people, cutting wood bits, making stuff for people for next to nothing. Myself, I've constantly been helping folks with their project artwork through analysis and constructive critique, and suggestions, which has helped the look of a lot of member's cabinet builds.
You can't be throwing the no-value statement when being out of touch on what projects are being posted here, or what conversations are outside of this thread.
Also, let's be honest, calling people "losers" is comical coming from a guy who bought a full palette of these things and barely broke even. Just sayin'.
Post by: leapinlew on April 12, 2019, 07:53:01 pm
I had suggested they ban some elitist members because they add no value here, and yet....
Just deal with it losers.
C'mon man, no forum rule was violated to suggest a ban. Complaining about these or any other product doesn't merit a ban, whether you like it or not.
And as for value, when was the last time you actually helped a member here on their projects? I would respectfully suggest, rather trying to justify your own purchase and trying to be a champion for A1up, how about you take your own self-advice you stated in that other thread and take a step back from trying to be a hero for this product. It's not a good look, man.
MikeA and a few others who have complained about these things are constantly helping people on their projects. Mike does a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin----ton of work for people, cutting wood bits, making stuff for people for next to nothing. Myself, I've constantly been helping folks with their project artwork through analysis and constructive critique, and suggestions, which has helped the look of a lot of member's cabinet builds.
You can't be throwing the no-value statement when being out of touch on what projects are being posted here, or what conversations are outside of this thread.
Also, let's be honest, calling people "losers" is comical coming from a guy who bought a full palette of these things and barely broke even. Just sayin'.
First off, I never really suggested anyone get banned to an admin or anything It seemed to be an obvious humorous comment I made towards someones genuine comment that this thread should be closed simply because they don't like the product. You're wrong about the rules not being violated. I think all of us are violating the rules in this forum, the difference is I realize the bickering is annoying behavior and we aren't being nice with each other. We've had new and old members complain about your behavior and comments. The thread I am stepping away from is the "1up Rant" thread that another member started because of you.
I believe posting my Arcade1up pallet thread is adding value. Others did too. I shared my experience. So, you're totally wrong in your suggestion there, and you keep trying to use my pallet thread as an example for you to hold up as proof of something. Truth is, I made money and I have some products to experiment with. I could totally paint it up as a successful venture, but the timing was poor, the risk was high and it wasn't a worthwhile venture for me.
So that's my side. Being a decent human being is easy to defend. Why you on the opposite side of that? Why do you keep feeling the need to bring up your well-known opinion on these products in such an ugly and nasty way?
Post by: yotsuya on April 12, 2019, 08:02:41 pm
I had suggested they ban some elitist members because they add no value here, and yet....
Just deal with it losers.
Please don't lump me in with the pearl clutchers. I wanted to be able to ignore the complaining about Arcade 1UP's.
Pearl clutchers?
Post by: opt2not on April 12, 2019, 11:40:20 pm
I just don't understand why there needs to be 2 threads advertising this.
Lew, how did this comment set you off? ^
How is this a nasty comment? It’s a legitimate question. Why are their 2 threads that have the same purpose?
Also, no one got your ban joke. There was no smilies or eye rolling emoji indicating a joke, and you ended it by calling people losers.
I don’t understand how that post can be taken in jest.
Look, truth is, I still like you. But you’re getting too evangelical about this product. And you aren’t even a owner of the company, (wait, are you?), so I don’t get why you are so passionately defending them.
It’s kinda baffling, especially from a member who has made some cool stuff in the past.
Post by: Mike A on April 12, 2019, 11:47:19 pm
Post by: DrakeTungsten on April 13, 2019, 12:10:05 am
Remember, words matter! (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159538.msg1677915.html#msg1677915) Depending on who's using them, of course.
Post by: opt2not on April 13, 2019, 12:16:59 am
Post by: Arroyo on April 13, 2019, 07:43:47 am
Post by: RandyT on April 13, 2019, 09:26:39 am
it was 118, glen said he had for sale. i understand the numbers logic, but still have a hard time believing it. maybe if randyt says he's sold 100 or his, then i guess i could believe it. right now, i just think there's some weird crap going on with amazon and the product/company.
We get the more affluent and avid gamer section of the market, while the more casual and/or bargain hunters are gravitating to the other one. And yes, we have sold more than that, but the demand is tapering off so I'd say that most of those who were interested in replacing the stock spinner have already done so at this point.
Now, the focus of quite a few seems to be moving toward replacing the guts of these units and turning them into mini-MAME machines, as I pretty much predicted. I.e. the "non-casual" are already embarking upon what most in this community have been doing, sans the scratch built cabinet. Of course, the hardware of choice seems to be a Pi, which I'm sure will set off a few here when they start making their way in this direction :)
Post by: leapinlew on April 13, 2019, 12:15:16 pm
I saw this behavior, I didn't like it, and I called out the users making these comments. They didn't like being called out, but I think it's obvious they've decided to double think before posting mean comments. We've seen lots less of them.
Indisputable Fact: we've seen users leave the site because they felt unwelcome and harassed.
The issue I'm having, and I suspect many others is having, isn't some acceptance of Arcade1up. I don't care what products people like and use. What I do care about is the mob mentality mocking anyone who has purchased one of these products. If someone asks for opinions on the products prior to purchase, please, everyone share their thoughts on it, but to openly bash anyone who has already made the purchase is sharemful. You guys set the example and when you guys call someone a "retard", "foolish" or call their purchases garbage and trash cans, well then you have set the stage for another user to think "Oh, I'm going to write up a whole bit on how they should convert their arcade1up to a urinal". We've all acknowledge that the urinal rant was going too far. What about calling them retards? That's ok I guess, because you said it?
I don't care about arcade1up. You are trying to tie me to them to try to discredit me, or make it seem like my opinion is biased. I own 2 cabinets, and I haven't spent 1 dime on Arcade1up. Those cabinets are my spoils from the pallet adventure. My purchasing of a pallet you are also trying to use to discredit me to. You don't like my message, so you are trying to make me seem unbalanced.
Neither of us are winning this. You look like an elitist ass to me, I look like a bias inferior product goon to you but we look like a couple of bickering nancies everywhere else. I don't want to come to one of my favorite sites and see some arcade elitists belittling others who aren't up to their standards.
I'd like to end this, but I can't sit idly by while you guys turn BYOAC into your personal mob and not allow people to express their thoughts and opinions that are different than yours without getting harassed.
Post by: leapinlew on April 13, 2019, 12:15:56 pm
Post by: Osirus23 on April 13, 2019, 12:26:30 pm
Post by: leapinlew on April 13, 2019, 12:46:17 pm
Lew what I see is people criticizing the A1Ups and then you immediately turning around and making it personal and going after the person who spoke out against them.
Appreciate that. It's not my intent to make it seem personal. It's possible the Arcade1up topic has some remnants from the previous issues we've had with new member run off due to harsh criticism.
Regardless. If that's some sort of consensus, and I'm in the wrong, I'll be happy to not make any more waves.
Post by: Malenko on April 13, 2019, 08:14:18 pm
Indisputable Fact: we've seen users leave the site because they felt unwelcome and harassed.
Ironically that's exactly how you make me feel.
Post by: Mr. Peabody on April 15, 2019, 04:14:10 pm
Post by: negative1 on April 15, 2019, 10:15:18 pm
(There aren't any links online currently.)
This offer is not online. You might want to call and check to see
a store has them in stock if one is near you.
These are overstocks from Gamestop.
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Post by: negative1 on April 20, 2019, 01:04:23 am
These are preassembled.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/bf7eah/costco_has_the_asteroids_deluxe_cab_back_in/
(https://i.imgur.com/f9IMwtn.jpg)
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Post by: negative1 on April 26, 2019, 04:18:12 am
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P5WJ7BC?ref=myi_title_dp&fbclid=IwAR0GslO6g-fxJWrACUcX7EQVlW0Cp425-AxQ2D7GZGBckBPPypAg0LuGNqU
this version has a way to eliminate the 8ms delay the spinner had when used
with USB for pc, or raspberry units.
they are colored blue to distinguish them from the silver V1 versions.
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Post by: nexusmtz on April 26, 2019, 05:37:20 am
they are colored blue to distinguish them from the silver V1 versions.How did you manage to infer that from "This top doesn't come with it"?
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Post by: negative1 on April 26, 2019, 01:27:12 pm
they are colored blue to distinguish them from the silver V1 versions.How did you manage to infer that from "This top doesn't come with it"?
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from the youtube video where glen says, 'these are colored blue' to distinguish them
from the older silver ones.
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Post by: JDFan on April 26, 2019, 02:11:31 pm
they are colored blue to distinguish them from the silver V1 versions.How did you manage to infer that from "This top doesn't come with it"?
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from the youtube video where glen says, 'these are colored blue' to distinguish them
from the older silver ones.
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No he says they are going to be selling the various colors not that they are shipping the blue as part of v2 - maybe you should watch the video again !
Specifically he says this does not come with it - we will be selling various colors - and then later says he put it on there so that you would know which spinner in the video was v2 vs v1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3nlyS6lsg&t=165s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3nlyS6lsg&t=165s)
See 02:45 for when it says "now this top doesn't come with it" !
Post by: Malenko on April 26, 2019, 02:17:52 pm
Got to pump up that post count , those are rookie numbers!
Post by: RandyT on April 26, 2019, 03:38:37 pm
If you can sense it, and if it's due to an inefficient scaling algorithm, which it seems to be, then IMHO, control performance on the A1UP will still be lacking compared to a properly working spinner :)
Post by: Osirus23 on April 26, 2019, 05:02:30 pm
Post by: negative1 on April 27, 2019, 10:59:08 pm
they are colored blue to distinguish them from the silver V1 versions.How did you manage to infer that from "This top doesn't come with it"?
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from the youtube video where glen says, 'these are colored blue' to distinguish them
from the older silver ones.
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No he says they are going to be selling the various colors not that they are shipping the blue as part of v2 - maybe you should watch the video again !
Specifically he says this does not come with it - we will be selling various colors - and then later says he put it on there so that you would know which spinner in the video was v2 vs v1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3nlyS6lsg&t=165s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3nlyS6lsg&t=165s)
See 02:45 for when it says "now this top doesn't come with it" !
thanks for the correction.
yes, they should come in different colors to distinguish them.
also, there is a video review of the costco asteroids deluxe on youtube,
that come pre-assembled.
so those are finally being re-released again.
later
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Post by: negative1 on May 17, 2019, 05:17:03 pm
========================================
https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%
Prices in US$ (without shipping)
===============================
Cabinets
========================
Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter
PCB - $29 (originally $39)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcb
LCD - N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcd
Control Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlay
Replacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-set
On/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch
==============================================
Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
----------------
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcb
LCD N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcd
Buttons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set
===============================================
Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcb
Rampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcd
Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay
=====================================================
Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcb
Pac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-set
Pac-Man LCD : N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcd
Pac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay
===================================
Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcb
Galaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcd
Galaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-set
Galaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay
=========================================
Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcb
Centipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcd
Centipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlay
Centipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set
=========================================
Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcb
Atari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay
===========================================
Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcb
Asteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deck
Asteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
Asteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set
==========================================
Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons
================================
Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set
===============================
Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set
================================
Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set
================================
later
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Post by: Mike A on May 17, 2019, 06:05:40 pm
Post by: opt2not on May 17, 2019, 07:17:36 pm
Arcade 1up store:25 %, they're now getting desperate.
========================================
https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%
Prices in US$ (without shipping)Still overpriced for this junk. What's sad was the esport pro Street Fighter players claiming these cabs were like playing the original BITD (Nope, not even close to that experience and quality!)
===============================
Cabinets
========================
Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter
PCB - $29 (originally $39)Questionable legality.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcb
LCD - N/AEnjoy those dead pixels and crappy viewing angles.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcd
Control Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)LOL, "please pay money more for our screw-up".
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlay
Replacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)"Want to replace your buttons with better ones? Well don't bother buying real quality ones, here's some knockoffs instead that you can get directly from us!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-set
On/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)Errr...shouldn't you have this already installed onto your product?
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch
==============================================Sale for questionable emulation boards! Yay!
Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
----------------
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcb
LCD N/AOh too bad it's N/A. I was soooo hoping to buy a dead pixel scratched up screen.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcd
Buttons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)More knockoffs! Do yourself a favour and pay the extra .50 cents from a real arcade vendor for higher quality buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set
===============================================So...what you're saying is you have all these PCB's at the same price? But let's just list them out individually so that this post looks important and full of info!
Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcb
Rampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)DON'T YOU DARE USE THIS ON OUR SPACE INVADERS OR STREET FIGHTER CABS. This is specifically for RAMPAGE.
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcd
Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"we still dun effed up..."
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay
=====================================================Ad nauseum.
Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcb
Pac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)Yes, because I remember pac-man cabinets having japanese style sanwa knockoff buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-set
Pac-Man LCD : N/A"All your LCD's are belong to us"
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcd
Pac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)$12.50 that you pay because they couldn't spend a bit more money on quality CPO prints.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay
===================================Hello darkness my old friend.
Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcb
Galaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Specifically built for Galaga, with special Galaga technology. "Act now!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcd
Galaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)So you have special button sets for each cabinet. Gotcha.
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-set
Galaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"Because it's the CP we deserve, but not the one we need right now."
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay
=========================================Jesus, this just keeps going on and on eh?
Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcb
Centipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Change the LCD to LSD and you've got a pretty funky name of a hallucinogenic.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcd
Centipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)Protek ya neck son! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQ0VMHK0Ec)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlay
Centipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)Clearly, red buttons cost more than white ones, ya plebs.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set
=========================================Same bat price, different bat channel.
Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcb
Atari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)"So we glued these bezels to the LCD monitors"
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
"---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! What can we do??"
"Ah screw the customers, let's just tell 'em they're special LCD's for each cabinet. They're all idiots anyway"
Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)I'm running out of material here.
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay
===========================================Surely the price will be different because this is listed separately...oh wait, nope.
Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcb
Asteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Mmmmm, gotta love that pixel look to vector games. It gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside...your colon...
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deck
Asteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)"Easily replaces your faulty or worn out part."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
If there's any part you should spend more QC time on, perhaps the actual switch that turns the cab on/off should be it!
Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)"Preserve the artwork on your Arcade1Up from scratches and wear and completely rubbing off, by using our control panel overlays."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
FTFY
Asteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)Wait, so these are somehow different from the other white buttons you have on sale for cheaper on your other cabs?
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set
=========================================="Completely different than the other sets. Trust me."
Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons
================================We know that MK is more popular, so here, pay us more for the same knockoff buttons.
Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set
===============================Clearly not as popular as MK buttons.
Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set
================================Almost as popular as MK buttons.
Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set
================================I continue to look forward to your repetitive posts of regurgitating shill-ness, bumping two separate threads to promote this garbage. Later indeed.
later
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Post by: jennifer on May 17, 2019, 10:45:50 pm
I am not so sure there Opt...That content panel protector seems to be quite a bargain at 12.50, If we all pooled or resources I bet we could get a pallet load of them for almost nothing.Arcade 1up store:25 %, they're now getting desperate.
========================================
https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%Prices in US$ (without shipping)Still overpriced for this junk. What's sad was the esport pro Street Fighter players claiming these cabs were like playing the original BITD (Nope, not even close to that experience and quality!)
===============================
Cabinets
========================
Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighterPCB - $29 (originally $39)Questionable legality.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcbLCD - N/AEnjoy those dead pixels and crappy viewing angles.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcdControl Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)LOL, "please pay money more for our screw-up".
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlayReplacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)"Want to replace your buttons with better ones? Well don't bother buying real quality ones, here's some knockoffs instead that you can get directly from us!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-setOn/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)Errr...shouldn't you have this already installed onto your product?
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch==============================================Sale for questionable emulation boards! Yay!
Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
----------------
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcbLCD N/AOh too bad it's N/A. I was soooo hoping to buy a dead pixel scratched up screen.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcdButtons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)More knockoffs! Do yourself a favour and pay the extra .50 cents from a real arcade vendor for higher quality buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set===============================================So...what you're saying is you have all these PCB's at the same price? But let's just list them out individually so that this post looks important and full of info!
Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcbRampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)DON'T YOU DARE USE THIS ON OUR SPACE INVADERS OR STREET FIGHTER CABS. This is specifically for RAMPAGE.
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcdControl Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"we still dun effed up..."
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay=====================================================Ad nauseum.
Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcbPac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)Yes, because I remember pac-man cabinets having japanese style sanwa knockoff buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-setPac-Man LCD : N/A"All your LCD's are belong to us"
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcdPac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)$12.50 that you pay because they couldn't spend a bit more money on quality CPO prints.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay===================================Hello darkness my old friend.
Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcbGalaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Specifically built for Galaga, with special Galaga technology. "Act now!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcdGalaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)So you have special button sets for each cabinet. Gotcha.
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-setGalaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"Because it's the CP we deserve, but not the one we need right now."
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay=========================================Jesus, this just keeps going on and on eh?
Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcbCentipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Change the LCD to LSD and you've got a pretty funky name of a hallucinogenic.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcdCentipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)Protek ya neck son! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQ0VMHK0Ec)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlayCentipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)Clearly, red buttons cost more than white ones, ya plebs.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set=========================================Same bat price, different bat channel.
Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcbAtari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)"So we glued these bezels to the LCD monitors"
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
"---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! What can we do??"
"Ah screw the customers, let's just tell 'em they're special LCD's for each cabinet. They're all idiots anyway"Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)I'm running out of material here.
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay===========================================Surely the price will be different because this is listed separately...oh wait, nope.
Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcbAsteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Mmmmm, gotta love that pixel look to vector games. It gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside...your colon...
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deckAsteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)"Easily replaces your faulty or worn out part."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
If there's any part you should spend more QC time on, perhaps the actual switch that turns the cab on/off should be it!Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)"Preserve the artwork on your Arcade1Up from scratches and wear and completely rubbing off, by using our control panel overlays."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
FTFYAsteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)Wait, so these are somehow different from the other white buttons you have on sale for cheaper on your other cabs?
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set=========================================="Completely different than the other sets. Trust me."
Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons================================We know that MK is more popular, so here, pay us more for the same knockoff buttons.
Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set===============================Clearly not as popular as MK buttons.
Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set================================Almost as popular as MK buttons.
Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set================================I continue to look forward to your repetitive posts of regurgitating shill-ness, bumping two separate threads to promote this garbage. Later indeed.
later
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LATER
-J
Post by: jennifer on May 17, 2019, 10:52:18 pm
Opps...Darn auto correct, I meant to say CONTROL, not content....So very sorry guys. >:DI am not so sure there Opt...That content panel protector seems to be quite a bargain at 12.50, If we all pooled or resources I bet we could get a pallet load of them for almost nothing.Arcade 1up store:25 %, they're now getting desperate.
========================================
https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%Prices in US$ (without shipping)Still overpriced for this junk. What's sad was the esport pro Street Fighter players claiming these cabs were like playing the original BITD (Nope, not even close to that experience and quality!)
===============================
Cabinets
========================
Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighterPCB - $29 (originally $39)Questionable legality.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcbLCD - N/AEnjoy those dead pixels and crappy viewing angles.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcdControl Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)LOL, "please pay money more for our screw-up".
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlayReplacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)"Want to replace your buttons with better ones? Well don't bother buying real quality ones, here's some knockoffs instead that you can get directly from us!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-setOn/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)Errr...shouldn't you have this already installed onto your product?
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch==============================================Sale for questionable emulation boards! Yay!
Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
----------------
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcbLCD N/AOh too bad it's N/A. I was soooo hoping to buy a dead pixel scratched up screen.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcdButtons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)More knockoffs! Do yourself a favour and pay the extra .50 cents from a real arcade vendor for higher quality buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set===============================================So...what you're saying is you have all these PCB's at the same price? But let's just list them out individually so that this post looks important and full of info!
Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcbRampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)DON'T YOU DARE USE THIS ON OUR SPACE INVADERS OR STREET FIGHTER CABS. This is specifically for RAMPAGE.
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcdControl Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"we still dun effed up..."
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay=====================================================Ad nauseum.
Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcbPac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)Yes, because I remember pac-man cabinets having japanese style sanwa knockoff buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-setPac-Man LCD : N/A"All your LCD's are belong to us"
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcdPac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)$12.50 that you pay because they couldn't spend a bit more money on quality CPO prints.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay===================================Hello darkness my old friend.
Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcbGalaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Specifically built for Galaga, with special Galaga technology. "Act now!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcdGalaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)So you have special button sets for each cabinet. Gotcha.
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-setGalaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"Because it's the CP we deserve, but not the one we need right now."
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay=========================================Jesus, this just keeps going on and on eh?
Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcbCentipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Change the LCD to LSD and you've got a pretty funky name of a hallucinogenic.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcdCentipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)Protek ya neck son! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQ0VMHK0Ec)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlayCentipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)Clearly, red buttons cost more than white ones, ya plebs.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set=========================================Same bat price, different bat channel.
Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcbAtari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)"So we glued these bezels to the LCD monitors"
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
"---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! What can we do??"
"Ah screw the customers, let's just tell 'em they're special LCD's for each cabinet. They're all idiots anyway"Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)I'm running out of material here.
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay===========================================Surely the price will be different because this is listed separately...oh wait, nope.
Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcbAsteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Mmmmm, gotta love that pixel look to vector games. It gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside...your colon...
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deckAsteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)"Easily replaces your faulty or worn out part."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
If there's any part you should spend more QC time on, perhaps the actual switch that turns the cab on/off should be it!Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)"Preserve the artwork on your Arcade1Up from scratches and wear and completely rubbing off, by using our control panel overlays."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
FTFYAsteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)Wait, so these are somehow different from the other white buttons you have on sale for cheaper on your other cabs?
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set=========================================="Completely different than the other sets. Trust me."
Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons================================We know that MK is more popular, so here, pay us more for the same knockoff buttons.
Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set===============================Clearly not as popular as MK buttons.
Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set================================Almost as popular as MK buttons.
Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set================================I continue to look forward to your repetitive posts of regurgitating shill-ness, bumping two separate threads to promote this garbage. Later indeed.
later
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LATER
-J
Post by: negative1 on May 18, 2019, 10:10:54 am
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Looks like they won't be selling the bezels separately currently,
so you do have to buy them with the monitors, as mentioned above.
Also, there are 2 different monitor orientations, so the horizontal ones
and vertical ones are differentiated.
Some aren't ready for sale yet, as noted above.
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No replacement parts for the dials, or trackballs yet.
Perhaps they might be selling upgrades in the future.
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As I didn't start the thread, this one is about sales.
Please continue to report off-topic posts to the moderator.
Thanks.
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Post by: jennifer on May 18, 2019, 10:54:26 am
Some more observations:What, No bezel?...Omg, so now I have to get the monitor too, Bummer dude...I can't seem to find it though in the list, could you point it out please.
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Looks like they won't be selling the bezels separately currently,
so you do have to buy them with the monitors, as mentioned above.
Also, there are 2 different monitor orientations, so the horizontal ones
and vertical ones are differentiated.
Some aren't ready for sale yet, as noted above.
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No replacement parts for the dials, or trackballs yet.
Perhaps they might be selling upgrades in the future.
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As I didn't start the thread, this one is about sales.
Please continue to report off-topic posts to the moderator.
Thanks.
later
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Opps...Darn auto correct, I meant to say CONTROL, not content....So very sorry guys. >:DI am not so sure there Opt...That content panel protector seems to be quite a bargain at 12.50, If we all pooled or resources I bet we could get a pallet load of them for almost nothing.Arcade 1up store:25 %, they're now getting desperate.
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https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%Prices in US$ (without shipping)Still overpriced for this junk. What's sad was the esport pro Street Fighter players claiming these cabs were like playing the original BITD (Nope, not even close to that experience and quality!)
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Cabinets
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Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighterPCB - $29 (originally $39)Questionable legality.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcbLCD - N/AEnjoy those dead pixels and crappy viewing angles.
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcdControl Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)LOL, "please pay money more for our screw-up".
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlayReplacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)"Want to replace your buttons with better ones? Well don't bother buying real quality ones, here's some knockoffs instead that you can get directly from us!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-setOn/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)Errr...shouldn't you have this already installed onto your product?
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch==============================================Sale for questionable emulation boards! Yay!
Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
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https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcbLCD N/AOh too bad it's N/A. I was soooo hoping to buy a dead pixel scratched up screen.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcdButtons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)More knockoffs! Do yourself a favour and pay the extra .50 cents from a real arcade vendor for higher quality buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set===============================================So...what you're saying is you have all these PCB's at the same price? But let's just list them out individually so that this post looks important and full of info!
Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcbRampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)DON'T YOU DARE USE THIS ON OUR SPACE INVADERS OR STREET FIGHTER CABS. This is specifically for RAMPAGE.
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcdControl Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"we still dun effed up..."
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay=====================================================Ad nauseum.
Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcbPac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)Yes, because I remember pac-man cabinets having japanese style sanwa knockoff buttons.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-setPac-Man LCD : N/A"All your LCD's are belong to us"
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcdPac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)$12.50 that you pay because they couldn't spend a bit more money on quality CPO prints.
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay===================================Hello darkness my old friend.
Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcbGalaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Specifically built for Galaga, with special Galaga technology. "Act now!"
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcdGalaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)So you have special button sets for each cabinet. Gotcha.
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-setGalaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)"Because it's the CP we deserve, but not the one we need right now."
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay=========================================Jesus, this just keeps going on and on eh?
Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcbCentipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Change the LCD to LSD and you've got a pretty funky name of a hallucinogenic.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcdCentipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)Protek ya neck son! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQ0VMHK0Ec)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlayCentipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)Clearly, red buttons cost more than white ones, ya plebs.
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set=========================================Same bat price, different bat channel.
Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcbAtari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)"So we glued these bezels to the LCD monitors"
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
"---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! What can we do??"
"Ah screw the customers, let's just tell 'em they're special LCD's for each cabinet. They're all idiots anyway"Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)I'm running out of material here.
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay===========================================Surely the price will be different because this is listed separately...oh wait, nope.
Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcbAsteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)Mmmmm, gotta love that pixel look to vector games. It gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside...your colon...
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deckAsteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)"Easily replaces your faulty or worn out part."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
If there's any part you should spend more QC time on, perhaps the actual switch that turns the cab on/off should be it!Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)"Preserve the artwork on your Arcade1Up from scratches and wear and completely rubbing off, by using our control panel overlays."
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
FTFYAsteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)Wait, so these are somehow different from the other white buttons you have on sale for cheaper on your other cabs?
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set=========================================="Completely different than the other sets. Trust me."
Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons================================We know that MK is more popular, so here, pay us more for the same knockoff buttons.
Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set===============================Clearly not as popular as MK buttons.
Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set================================Almost as popular as MK buttons.
Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set================================I continue to look forward to your repetitive posts of regurgitating shill-ness, bumping two separate threads to promote this garbage. Later indeed.
later
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LATER
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Post by: pbj on May 18, 2019, 10:55:24 am
:dunno
Post by: jennifer on May 18, 2019, 10:59:48 am
Arcade 1up store:Opps my bad (again)...I meant to use your list, clicked on the wrong one . .So very sorry....Anyway can't seem to find that monitor/bezel anywhere.
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https://arcade1up.com/
Sale currently for 25%
Prices in US$ (without shipping)
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Street Fighter 2 - $249
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter
PCB - $29 (originally $39)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-pcb
LCD - N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-lcd
Control Panel Protector: $12.50 (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-control-panel-overlay
Replacement Buttons : $5.99 (Originally $7.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-button-set
On/Off volume switch : $1.99 (Originally $2.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/street-fighter-black-on-off-volume-switch
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Space Invaders PCB: $29.99 sale
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https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-pcb
LCD N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-lcd
Buttons $1.49 sale (From $1.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/space-invaders-button-set
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Rampage PCB : $29.99 sale (normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-pcb
Rampage LCD : $112.49 sale (normally $149.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-lcd
Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/rampage-control-panel-overlay
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Pac-Man PCB : $29.99 sale (Normally $39.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-pcb
Pac-Man buttons : $1.00 sale (Normally $1.49)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-button-set
Pac-Man LCD : N/A
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-lcd
Pac-Man Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/pacman-control-panel-overlay
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Galaga PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-pcb
Galaga LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-12-1-lcd
Galaga Button Set : $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-button-set
Galaga Control Panel Protector : $12.50 sale (originally $16.99)
https://arcade1up.com/products/galaga-control-panel-overlay
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Centipede PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-pcb
Centipede LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-lcd
Centipede control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-control-panel-overlay
Centipede buttons : $2.00 sale ($2.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/centipede-button-set
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Atari 12-1 PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-pcb
Atari 12-1 LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-lcd
Atari 12-1 Control panel protector : $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-control-panel-overlay
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Asteroids PCB : $29.99 sale ($39.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-pcb
Asteroids LCD : $112.49 sale ($149.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-deck
Asteroids on off switch : $1.99 sale ($2.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-on-off-switch
Asteroids Control Panel protector: $12.50 sale ($16.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-control-panel-overlay
Asteroids Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-button-set
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Asteroids 6-1 Buttons : $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/6-in-one-7-white-7-buttons
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Mortal Kombat Buttons $5.99 sale ($7.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/mortal-kombat-button-set
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Golden Tee Buttons $1.49 sale ($1.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/golden-tee-button-set
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Final Fight Buttons $2.50 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/final-fight-button-set
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later
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Post by: yotsuya on May 18, 2019, 01:58:57 pm
I actually like the monitors in these cabinets.
:dunno
Yeah, but we also know your kinks, so....
Post by: leapinlew on May 18, 2019, 02:56:13 pm
I actually like the monitors in these cabinets.
:dunno
Yeah, but we also know your kinks, so....
In horizontal orientation, the monitors are ok. When used vertically, the viewing angle is rough.
Post by: Gilrock on May 18, 2019, 09:16:50 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZ9qWdU7Hw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZ9qWdU7Hw)
Post by: leapinlew on May 18, 2019, 10:09:55 pm
Post by: negative1 on May 19, 2019, 12:47:50 pm
Hmm...minus one keeps whining about off-topic posts. Well wasn't this thread about a sale last December? Sale's over dude so nothing in this thread is on topic. Are you saying anything Arcade1Up related is on topic? Ok...I'll play
These posts are about sales on arcade 1up cabinet parts.
And they also have the Street Fighter 2 cabinet for sale through their official site.
But selected Walmart, gamestop, thinkgeek stores still have them on sale, so keep checking if you really want one.
And no, not everything related is on topic, only sales related items for Arcade 1up, that's what the topic is about.
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Post by: Howard_Casto on May 19, 2019, 05:26:03 pm
Post by: Mr. Peabody on May 20, 2019, 03:39:11 pm
Those guys are tools.
They look like them, behind those spit masks.
Post by: Gilrock on May 20, 2019, 03:53:28 pm
Post by: JDFan on May 20, 2019, 04:52:42 pm
SO if you need a spare monitor might buy one of these instead of Paying the $112 + shipping from the A1U store and get the rest of the cab for spare parts !
Post by: pbj on May 20, 2019, 08:57:08 pm
My wallet is safe.
Post by: Howard_Casto on May 21, 2019, 12:47:55 am
Post by: Howard_Casto on May 21, 2019, 01:07:53 am
Post by: leapinlew on May 21, 2019, 05:24:17 pm
Hmm..... most of them have been marked down to $75 in my area. Yes they are crap, but they are cheap crap and that's my favorite kind. Tempted on centipede.
That's one of my favorite cabinets. I have a trackball cabinet already. $75 for me would be a no brainer. We spend that much going out to eat or going to the local redemption arcade. If we play it for 2 nights, it was worth it.
Post by: negative1 on May 21, 2019, 06:14:33 pm
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Bat top $2.99 sale ($3.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/bat-top-red-joystick (https://arcade1up.com/products/bat-top-red-joystick)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0082/4092/2686/products/joystick-bat-bottom-red_600x.jpg)
Asteroids spinner $18.49 sale ($24.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-spinner?variant=19784681226302 (https://arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-spinner?variant=19784681226302)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0082/4092/2686/products/spinner-asteroids-front_600x.jpg)
Have intense Tempest maneuvers worn down your spinner? Play like new by swapping out your spinner! We offer quality spinners for you to purchase to keep you playing your best game!
Features
-Free spinning weighted flywheel
-High-Resolution Optical Sensor / Multiple pulses per revolution
-Dual sealed ball-bearing
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12-1 Trackball and spinner $37.49 sale ($49.99 originally)
https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-spinner (https://arcade1up.com/products/atari-12-1-spinner)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0082/4092/2686/products/spinner-12-1-34_600x.jpg)
Have intense Tempest maneuvers worn down your spinner? Play like new by swapping out your spinner! We offer quality spinners for you to purchase to keep you playing your best game!
Features
-Free spinning weighted flywheel
-High-Resolution Optical Sensor / Multiple pulses per revolution
-Dual sealed ball-bearing
===============
later
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Post by: Howard_Casto on May 21, 2019, 08:24:35 pm
Hmm..... most of them have been marked down to $75 in my area. Yes they are crap, but they are cheap crap and that's my favorite kind. Tempted on centipede.
That's one of my favorite cabinets. I have a trackball cabinet already. $75 for me would be a no brainer. We spend that much going out to eat or going to the local redemption arcade. If we play it for 2 nights, it was worth it.
Eh I'll be there tomorrow. Brickseek says "limited stock" which could mean none but I might get it depending upon my mood. I've got a spare trackball so it wouldn't cost anything for me to make it good.
Post by: Osirus23 on May 21, 2019, 09:34:28 pm
Post by: Laythe on May 22, 2019, 04:05:28 pm
Post by: Mike A on May 22, 2019, 04:42:04 pm
Post by: leapinlew on May 22, 2019, 06:55:00 pm
Post by: JDFan on May 24, 2019, 12:51:27 am
Starting to see cabinets everywhere for $75. Unfortunately, the only one that cheap is Asteroids. If I ever find a Rampage - I'll add it to the kids arcade.
Centipede is also $75
Post by: leapinlew on May 24, 2019, 02:19:34 pm
Post by: JDFan on May 24, 2019, 02:50:31 pm
I'd get a centipede, but it's still $199 in my area. Not a bad price, but not enough for me to get a cabinet that plays the same games I already have on the full size. I'll keep my eye out - would be cool to add it.
DId you check brickseek or in store app -- The stores here still have them marked at $199 even though they had been $150 for about a month and were now reduced to $75 ( I picked one up the other day ( Online will still show $199 but if any store in your area has them check brickseek to see if they are $75 !)
https://brickseek.com/p/arcade1up-centipede-machine-4ft/6256471
Post by: negative1 on May 27, 2019, 08:08:44 pm
https://arcade1up.com/collections/control-decks?fbclid=IwAR3lX25iPvgRAZY54LWj56TJzbDMjR1iqbHY89lIrJwwbSibQQI80GkslFw
Currently, some are $25 (sale).
The SF2, 12-1, and Rampage are not available.
later
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Post by: negative1 on May 28, 2019, 09:04:54 pm
Looks like some people got the old stock, which of course are no different,
but other people are getting the new one that they listed.
Whether they are an improvement is not known yet, but they most likely are.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/bu82yl/just_got_my_a1u_new_spinner/
(https://i.imgur.com/WJqrkpt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fi1UrTW.jpg)
later
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Post by: Malenko on May 28, 2019, 09:18:48 pm
Post by: Vigo on May 28, 2019, 09:59:35 pm
-1, Saint did a service to ya and other 1up fans. Would be a great to return the favor by helping to keep the topics organized. Help future visitors of this forum and make a thread with an accurate title so people can properly reference it and find valuable information.
Post by: SlammedNiss on May 28, 2019, 10:48:28 pm
Agreed. this derailed train wreck of a thread is no longer on the topic of the Walmart clearance sale from 6 month ago.
-1, Saint did a service to ya and other 1up fans. Would be a great to return the favor by helping to keep the topics organized. Help future visitors of this forum and make a thread with an accurate title so people can properly reference it and find valuable information.
Go ahead and start a new thread so I can stop getting alerts for this thread.
I wish there was a way to 'LIKE' posts here. Would keep me from having to post that I 'LIKE' these 2 posts.
Post by: RandyT on May 29, 2019, 11:42:59 am
Whether they are an improvement is not known yet, but they most likely are.
They have to be. The problem is that the encoder wheel appears to be a standard trackball type, which would make the resolution far too high for the stock A1UP hardware, and far too low for just about anything else.
Post by: negative1 on June 03, 2019, 12:17:48 pm
From BerryBerry
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"Final Fight is NOT a 2nd-Gen game. It uses the same board as all the other Gen1 games.
Controls match SF2 exactly (but FF uses only 2 buttons per player.)
Should be trivial to add FF's games to a SF board, to make a "7-in-1".
You will have to do the USB mod first, then access the filesystem on both,
to move the files over from one system to the other.
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Post by: negative1 on June 04, 2019, 11:55:03 pm
$449
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-golden-tee-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-black/6333626.p?skuId=6333626
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Post by: Malenko on June 05, 2019, 06:36:11 am
Post by: Gilrock on June 05, 2019, 09:15:30 am
Start a new thread.
Exactly. If this shows up when I hit Show new replies to your posts then I will reserve the right to continue saying how ridiculous it is that anyone would buy one of these cabs. Start a new thread and I guarantee you will not hear from several of us. I think you want the attention.