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| hulkster: i bought a galaga/pacman 4 way from happ, and ive read that you need a mounting plate and all that crap. is there a 4 way that somebody makes that the shaft is longer?? (heh) seems like somebody would do this. anybody know of a place where they sell something like this? | 
| paigeoliver: Heck, I will sell you one. But you won't like it. I used to use a long shafted 4-way, but it just didn't cut it. It really is not hard to do a mounting plate. Check out my website, I am using that stick with a mounting plate, it only took a few minutes to do, and you can't even see the plate. | 
| meta87: How did you go about making one ? :) | 
| hulkster: paigeoliver i went to your site but the pics are too dark and i cant see what you did very well. is there somebody else that can tell me what i need to do? or at least show me some pics on how to do this? do i have to cut a big square hole i my board (requiring a jigsaw correct?) | 
| Grasshopper: It might be worth checking out the Wico/Suzo series 500. | 
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