New Acquisitions

[shardian]

Picking these up tommorrow:

MKII dedicated in great condition
Pub Time Dart Board

The MKII is in great, fully working condition. It is the first ever complete working game I have ever bought. The dart board is 100% and works, but the monitor is not firing up.

[polaris]

Plenty of room for a trackball, spinner, analogue joy and yoke on that MK , gonna be awesome, how many admin buttons will you use?
seriously though,reckon the darts is a great game room addition to cabs n pins

[shardian]

Damnit, you stole my line I already had prepped for once I got them home and posted! And for your info, I planned on 20 admin buttons.

I've wanted a coin-op dart board from day one of deciding on a gameroom.

So here is my updated list of coin-op goodies I wanted:
Video Games
Pinball
Gumball Machine
Dart Board
Pop Machine
Popcorn machine
Coin-op bathroom door

I'm almost there! 



* P.S. I am serious about the bathroom door. Deadly serious. I was scarred for life from the coin-op bathroom door situation at the local amusement park as a kid. I had to use the doorless (aka free) stall every damn time.

[ChadTower]

I have never actually seen a coin-op dartboard.  What is automatic about it?  Scoring?  Is it a standard board or are you using those plastic dart things?

[HaRuMaN]

Awesome MKII.  Love the Raiden side-art.

[polaris]

i dont get the toilet door thing, do you have to pay to get out of the cubicle or something

[ChadTower]

You have to pay to get in.

[shardian]

I have never actually seen a coin-op dartboard.  What is automatic about it?  Scoring?  Is it a standard board or are you using those plastic dart things?

Auto scoring, plastic darts, lots of games, etc. I'm sure a really nice store bought electronic darts can do the same stuff, but this is COIN OP! That is the most important thing!

I've played a few arachnid coin op darts, and it is always alot of fun.

[shardian]

i dont get the toilet door thing, do you have to pay to get out of the cubicle or something

You have to put in change in order to open the door. They always left one stall on the end doorless for poor/cheap ---daisies--- - which I was stuck with because of my cheap ass parents.

My wife experienced the same thing as a kid, but her family made her crawl on the floor to open doors for them. Needless to say, we don't get along much with either of our families.   

[ChadTower]

Ah... we used to play tons of games as a kid but did it manually.  Can't imagine the plastic darts are nearly as fun.

Those pay doors were really really low.  It is nasty to make a little girl crawl across a pee stained floor to save a dime.

[polaris]

i get you now , i thought you meant you got locked in one and wouldnt go back in, all the places i've been in europe you pay at a turnstile at the door as opposed to the cubicle.

sorry to hear about your families, i don't think anything pisses me off more than seeing kids with horrible parents

[SirPeale]

Can't imagine the plastic darts are nearly as fun.

Just the tips are plastic.  The rest is weighted just like a steel tipped dart.

[shardian]

I have a real dart board with steel tips etc. The coin-op darts are definitely more fun for 'casual players'. Another thing about steel tip darts is that I had to cover half the wall with cork board for safety. It looked like crap.

Peale is right though, the dart is the same, only the tip is plastic.

[tomdotcom]

We have one of those plastic dart style electric dart boards in my garage. Just a cheap one from a pawn shop. It's not perfect the darts do pop out once in awhile, but we still love playing it. I'd love to have one of those arachnid ones someday.

[shardian]

Got home at around 7 last night. Everything went well. The guy's son/nephews showed up in the form of a biker gang to load the games for me. That was pretty cool. I was very happy with the MKII, but the darts wasn't exactly 'working 100% with a dead monitor'. It turned on and did some things, but there was no logic to what it was doing. Then after a while it quit responding completely. There is a stuck button which may be a problem, and there are also some quarters that tumbled out when I unloaded it. I'll be cleaning it out and fixing that button before firing it up again.

As for the MK, absolutely great condition. That monitor is pretty much mint condition. For some reason, both low kick buttons are non-functional. I'll have to research that. Maybe they are the buttons on the 'kick harness'. I also remembered how much I didn't care for MKII. It was my least favorite of the series.

The wife was very impressed with the condition of the MK too. She didn't believe me when I said all it would need was a rag wipedown.

[Malenko]

yup, the low kicks and low punches go to the kick harness. Good news is I have an MKII with MKII (and UMK3, and NBA JamTE) in it and can take pix if you need it.

[shardian]

My low punches both work though. Are there two kick harnesses?

[Malenko]

My low punches both work though. Are there two kick harnesses?

1 kick harness, runs to the low attacks; for both players. go to the test menu, switch test and check the cherries? Also make sure the kick harness is plugged into the board the right way and in all the way.

[FrizzleFried]

Here's mine:



BTW: I actually prefer playing the machine over regular darts.  Why?  Because even though you deal with broken tips ($1.50 for 50 new ones),  at least the hit registers unlike darts where if your dart falls off you're ass-out.   Add in the fact it keeps score and plays multiple types of games and you see the benefit.  Scoring is huge considering the scoring for regular darts becomes suspect as the night goes on and each player gets drunker and drunker...not so with electric darts.

I  have a nice set of both metal tipped and plastic tipped darts though.

[shardian]

Here's mine:

Wow, you must have lefties with the way you have the SI in the way. 

[FrizzleFried]

Wow, you must have lefties with the way you have the SI in the way. 

The SI is gone...was like that for a week or so.  There was room to shoot though.

[FrizzleFried]

Oh yeah,  my monitor was dead as well when I got it.  My cab also allows you to hook up an RCA cable to hook up a TV which I did for a couple weeks until I could rebuild the monitor chassis.   I decided to leave it hooked up afterward...I noticed many people use it instead of the small one when playing/watching.

[shardian]

Oh yeah,  my monitor was dead as well when I got it.  My cab also allows you to hook up an RCA cable to hook up a TV which I did for a couple weeks until I could rebuild the monitor chassis.   I decided to leave it hooked up afterward...I noticed many people use it instead of the small one when playing/watching.

I've been told mine does the same. I need to do that so I can troubleshoot.

[ChadTower]

Back on topic, you never mentioned a price.  We gotta know what you paid!

And will your bathroom door accept tokens?

[shardian]

I paid $125 for the dart board, but will reserve price on the MKII since I will probably be selling it soon.

[shardian]

As for the bathroom door, I wonder if a bubble gum machine knob could be adapted?

[ChadTower]

As for the bathroom door, I wonder if a bubble gum machine knob could be adapted?

Does it have to really be coinop or can it just look that way?

[shardian]

Does it have to really be coinop or can it just look that way?

In my house? Coin Op or nothing! 

I could always have a cheater button, and just not tell people I don't like. 

[Ed_McCarron]

As for the bathroom door, I wonder if a bubble gum machine knob could be adapted?

No, No, No.

With a gum nachine, you put in a coin, turn the knob, and catch what falls out in your hand.

The imagery is -way- wrong.

[ChadTower]

I can't seem to find into on the actual pay toilet hardware anywhere... just tons of people selling pay toilet signs.

Wait!  Contact this dude.

[shardian]

I tried to check out the MKII wiring last night, but the back door key was not the right key! I guess I'll be calling the locksmith - Mr. Drill.

I did look closer at the wiring connectors though. Sure enough, 4 buttons go to the kick harness. I just couldn't get into the pcb to look at that connection.


I read the manual last night for the darts and did some troubleshooting. I turned it on again first off to tinker. I noticed that the monitor came too life a little bit. It appeared to be getting some interference though. It would scatter when the sound tones came on. That screams at me BAD CAPS. It  may be worth rebuilding just for the learning experience. It didn't come up the second time though.

Anyways, I took apart the dart board and removed all the broken tips. I also reset the dipswitches to the settings I want. The game was booting directly into a previous game it seems, but now it coins up. Without the monitor though, I don't know what is going on. It seemed to crap out while trying to blindly start a game. Maybe my voltages aren't up to snuff.

The next step is to hook up an external monitor. I have to make a connector, which isn't too hard. Basically I need a molex header, and strip the end off an RCA plug and put it on the header. Then it is as simple as plugging it onto the CPU board and plugging the other end into a TV. The monitor mentions an RF modulator, but it isn't necessary in this day in age - TV's have had RCA inputs for years!

[Cyberflexx]

Picking these up tommorrow:

MKII dedicated in great condition
Pub Time Dart Board

The MKII is in great, fully working condition. It is the first ever complete working game I have ever bought. The dart board is 100% and works, but the monitor is not firing up.

You didnt tell everyone that the ole' Cyberflexx found these for you!..   

In the dart board picture sits my Galaga...

[shardian]

You didnt tell everyone that the ole' Cyberflexx found these for you!..   

In the dart board picture sits my Galaga...

You are quite right! I guess I'm just not used to you being active on here so I didn't think of it.

So yes, Cyberflexx has went from being inactive in this hobby to having more connections than me and Wade combined in like a week!

[shardian]

I finally got the backdoor off the Mortal Kombat. The lock had an odd double-bitted key which was nearly impossible to drill out. I hollowed the whole thing out and still couldn't get it to turn. I finally hit it with a contractor grade core driller with a concrete bit - the lock gave up very quickly.

The wiring for the kick harness is non-standard. The manual shows that a 4 wire cable should run from the CP disconnect to the P3 connector. This one has a full P3 wiring harness. The disconnect came apart without me seeing which way it was originally, so I put it back together the way it should be. On startup, the LP and LK buttons have reversed. By reversing, I mean that the LP buttons now perform a low kick, but the low kick buttons either don't work or act funny. I did a switch test and things got interesting. One LK button doesn't respond at all, and the other button now makes a switch tone, but doesn't show up on the on-screen switch map?!? In game, the button acts as a block input, but only in a quick momentary way no matter how long I hold the button. I'm gonna pull the whole harness and put it back to manual standards.

Any input from the peanut gallery on this new development? I am starting to think board problem.

[shardian]

IT finally happened! An easy fix game!

I had a few minutes to tinker around in the garage, so I looked at the darts a bit more. I thought a bit about the problem - mainly the resetting - and decided to turn up the +5 power supply a bit. Couldn't hurt at the least. Well the monitor came on, and the game worked a little better. After adjusting a bit more, the game works 100% perfectly.

[ChadTower]

Be sure to burn test it.  I've seen that happen in a few games that failed not long afterwards... +5v was low for a reason.

[shardian]

Be sure to burn test it.  I've seen that happen in a few games that failed not long afterwards... +5v was low for a reason.

I left it on for like 6 hours. Worked fine the whole time.

[Cyberflexx]

awesome...  I feel special for being the one of the 1st people you actually told that you got it working.  =)   

Now, fix my pinball machine  LOL!!!!

[SirPeale]

Low voltage is a problem in a lot of dart machines.

On the newest dart machines I worked on it was a huge problem with low voltage.  The machines reset all the time.  Problem is the didn't make the power supplies with adjustable voltage!

So I made a custom harness that we could plug a Peter Chou into.  No more problems.  Sucks that we couldn't use the OEM supply, but at least it didn't reset any more.

[shardian]

This dartboard also has a retrofit  switcher PS in it. It has a tag that shows it was replaced in the early 90's.

So why exactly is low voltage a prob? Ever figure that out?

[SirPeale]

Sure!  The original power supplies were crap.

If I had longer I could have probably found a way to adjust the voltage, but time/energy/effort it was just easier to replace the PS.

[shardian]

Fixed the MKII button problem last night. I verified the kick harness was plugged in properly on both sides. One of the LK buttons started working then. I replaced the other LK microswitch, and now it works too. Having fully functional games (that look good too) kicks ass! 

[Level42]

Damnit, you stole my line I already had prepped for once I got them home and posted! And for your info, I planned on 20 admin buttons.

I've wanted a coin-op dart board from day one of deciding on a gameroom.

So here is my updated list of coin-op goodies I wanted:
Video Games
Pinball
Gumball Machine
Dart Board
Pop Machine
Popcorn machine
Coin-op bathroom door

What, no condom machine ? Com'on and how about a pay-phone ?

I personally wouldn't add a MK or a darts machine but that's just my taste

Nice score though, both look good and _work_ which is always nice !

[shardian]

No condom machine for me. I would like the version that dispenses sample packs of Advil/Tylenol.

I used to want a payphone, but we don't even have a landline anymore.

[Ummon]

No condom machine for me. I would like the version that dispenses sample packs of Advil/Tylenol.

I used to want a payphone, but we don't even have a landline anymore.

I thought the phone would just be for atmosphere.

Fixed the MKII button problem last night. I verified the kick harness was plugged in properly on both sides. One of the LK buttons started working then. I replaced the other LK microswitch, and now it works too. Having fully functional games (that look good too) kicks ass! 

Yeah, just makes the day better.