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*DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« on: January 11, 2008, 10:04:19 am »
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6527131&sourceid=17659944572531819142

Quick... doesn't say it's a deposit... looks like it might be a pricing error.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 10:50:24 am by ChadTower »

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 10:49:23 am »

Yeah, there are a few, but the others are mostly crappy games... this one, OTOH, may be a killer app.

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 11:29:04 am »
no way ts supposed to be listed as that. that is a high roller of releases. thats like super mario galaxy being 20 bucks.

i wonder if i order one if they will charge my credit card 50 later on

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 11:31:06 am »
no way ts supposed to be listed as that. that is a high roller of releases. thats like super mario galaxy being 20 bucks.

i wonder if i order one if they will charge my credit card 50 later on


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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 12:10:18 pm »
Nice, I just placed my order.  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 12:31:47 pm »
Wow, 20 min too late it's now listed at $49.82

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 05:48:42 pm »
DAMN IT!  It's saying product not found.  Still showing the same price though.

I've been anticipating the option of online smashing for a LOOOOOONG time.  That's one of my favorite multiplayer games.  We just started back into Melee at work.
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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 06:09:55 pm »
Nice, I just placed my order.  Thanks for the tip.

Hopefully they'll honor it.

Didn't some store botch a pricing a couple of years ago when they knocked off something like 90% off the MSRP, then decided not to honor the sales? I remember everyone was ticked off about that.

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 06:23:54 pm »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I missed it too.  :hissy:

Actually I can't even get to the product page.  It shows up with a search (still at $19.82!), but when you  click on it you get a product not found page.  :banghead:
« Last Edit: January 11, 2008, 06:37:29 pm by ahofle »

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 09:17:03 pm »
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I didn't request cancellation of a damn thing.

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 09:59:59 pm »
Ditto. Buggers.

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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Wii                      1     19.82   19.82


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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 11:08:30 pm »
Yup, same here.   :-\

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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2008, 04:08:01 pm »
I figured that they would refund the money, as SL suggested, I think this happened again more recently with something, and that's what they did...to the "disappointment" of the people who jumped on the bargain.  (In all actuality, they were severely pissed off, with full knowledge they were taking advantage of someone's mistake.)

Oh well, I guess it was good for you guys to dream, eh?  I'll still be getting this the day it comes out.
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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2008, 05:55:06 pm »
Deals like this are always worth trying for in my opinion, because you just might get lucky.  I've had a few instances were prices were honored, and there was one time that Dell gave out a $50 gift card for the inconvenience.

You don't lose anything but a moment's time, and its illegal for them to charge the "correct" price, so why not give it a shot.  I ordered Brawl and Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 and both were canceled as well, but what can ya do.

It's worth a shot.
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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2008, 11:21:40 pm »
The point of this thread's pretty much expired, hasn't it?  Now it just teases people, and that's just cruel!
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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2008, 12:50:01 am »
Yeah . . . I once bought a PDA for my mother in law for her birthday.  It was a really nice $270 unit, but there were two separate $100 rebates available for it, one from the manufacturer and one from the retailer.  One of them only required a copy of the receipt.  I figured that most likely they wouldn't both work, but $170 for the thing was an incredibly good price and she really wanted a PDA so I bit.  I got paid by both rebates, though, so I ended up with a $270 PDA for $70.  In fact, even the original $270 was the best price I had found it for at the time.  Most people were selling it for $299.  Amazing.  Probably the best deal I've ever got on something.
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Re: Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2008, 10:49:45 am »

I did that with my Porter Cable router last year... there was a manuf rebate, a Lowe's rebate, it was already on sale, and I had a coupon for tools at Lowe's... so I ended up getting a near $300 router and kits for about $110 in the end.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2008, 05:33:43 pm »
You guys can't let them get away with that. It's their screwup so they need to deal with it.

The nerve of them to send you emails as if you wanted to cancel the order.   :angry:

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2008, 06:17:34 pm »
You guys can't let them get away with that. It's their screwup so they need to deal with it.

The nerve of them to send you emails as if you wanted to cancel the order.   :angry:

I agree it's a little hokey to be sending out "canceled" emails, but there's really nothing that I'm aware of that forces a company to sell a product at a specific price because it's errantly advertised. For instance, every single time Fry's publishes their big Sunday advertisement, there's always some sort of errata posted on their door when you enter. So there's nothing that can be done if Wally posted an errant price then refuses to sell the item at that price. The last time I checked, stores still have the right to refuse sales.

You would have something if Wally was trying to Bait and Switch you, but this isn't one of those.

You might have something if there's no errata, but I'm not sure of the specifics on that.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2008, 06:51:17 pm »
The store gets itself into a legal contract when they announce a product with a certain price. When the buyers buy the product at that price it should be reserved for them at that price.

They need to make the website devs pay the extra cost if the store is not willing to. You can't just change the price after a person has committed to buy the product. That's false advertising.

They will get away with this because no one is willing to challenge it.
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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2008, 08:15:33 pm »
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We apologize the email you received stating you, the customer, had requested your order to be canceled. Due to a site pricing error on the website, your order was canceled by Walmart.com.  The website has been updated to reflect the correct price and items are now available for purchasing.

Under Walmart.com's Terms and Conditions/Order Acceptance, the site
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"While Walmart.com strives to provide accurate product and pricing information, pricing or typographical errors may occur. Walmart.com cannot confirm the price of an item until after you order. In the event that an item is listed at an incorrect price or with incorrect information due to an error in pricing or product information, Walmart.com shall have the right, at our sole discretion, to refuse or cancel any orders placed for that item. In the event that an item is mispriced, Walmart.com may, at our discretion, either contact you for instructions or cancel your order and notify you of such cancellation."

Again, we apologize for the inconvenience.


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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2008, 08:33:18 pm »
I guess if I write above all my posts  "this post may be offensive to some" I will not be held accountable if it does offend others and I decide to go on a rampage?

Does that work for you?  ;D

Can I reserve that right?  ;)

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2008, 05:08:25 pm »
They just delayed this another month.  March 9th now.  They be killing me.
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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2008, 10:02:31 pm »
Nice, looks like those of us that ordered will be getting a $10 gift card  :)  Heres the latest email:

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2008, 11:03:10 pm »
That's nice.

I guess honoring their pricing error is out of the question. Everyone knows they screwed up and everyone knows how they tried to get out of it, if they want to make them self not seem like a bunch of asses they should just let you buy the game at they price listed at that time. Anything short of that is just another company looking out for number one, and a company I will never deal with again, they should realize this and fix it.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2008, 10:12:37 am »

I got the $10 card error too.

I think mostly they can't honor it because the release date was pushed back a month... they can't honor the date.

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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2008, 10:30:59 am »

I got the $10 card error too.

I think mostly they can't honor it because the release date was pushed back a month... they can't honor the date.

Not every game in the sale had a delay.  I ordered Vegas 2 and it was also canceled.  It was canceled simply because it was a pricing error.

I love when stuff like this happens and folks think a worldwide boycott is in order.  The fact is every major (and even minor) online retailer has terms for typographical and pricing errors.  That's how it is.  Just don't buy from any store EVER if you don't think its "good business."  Brick and mortar stores correct pricing errors with signs on doors, etc etc.  This is no different.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2008, 09:03:47 pm »
The store gets itself into a legal contract when they announce a product with a certain price. When the buyers buy the product at that price it should be reserved for them at that price.

They will get away with this because no one is willing to challenge it.

That's nice.

I guess honoring their pricing error is out of the question. Everyone knows they screwed up and everyone knows how they tried to get out of it, if they want to make them self not seem like a bunch of asses they should just let you buy the game at they price listed at that time. Anything short of that is just another company looking out for number one, and a company I will never deal with again, they should realize this and fix it.

No, they could get away with it because everyone that bought something from walmart.com acknowledged that WalMart may cancel the order for *any* reason.  You did read the TOS, right? 

Pricing Information

While Walmart.com strives to provide accurate product and pricing information, pricing or typographical errors may occur. Walmart.com cannot confirm the price of an item until after you order. In the event that an item is listed at an incorrect price or with incorrect information due to an error in pricing or product information, Walmart.com shall have the right, at our sole discretion, to refuse or cancel any orders placed for that item. In the event that an item is mispriced, Walmart.com may, at our discretion, either contact you for instructions or cancel your order and notify you of such cancellation.

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Please note that there may be certain orders that we are unable to accept and must cancel. We reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to refuse or cancel any order for any reason. For your convenience, you will not be charged until your payment method is authorized, the order information is verified for accuracy and your order is shipped. Some situations that may result in your order being canceled include limitations on quantities available for purchase, inaccuracies or errors in product or pricing information, or problems identified by our credit and fraud avoidance department. We may also require additional verifications or information before accepting any order. We will contact you if all or any portion of your order is canceled or if additional information is required to accept your order. If your order is canceled after your credit card has been charged, we will issue a credit to your credit card in the amount of the charge.

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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2008, 11:49:09 pm »
I know they protected their ass with blah blah blah in writing. Don't quote crapmarts website for me and think you're a smart guy. I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking about what is the right thing to do here, we all know what it is.

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2008, 12:36:48 am »
I know they protected their ass with blah blah blah in writing. Don't quote crapmarts website for me and think you're a smart guy. I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking about what is the right thing to do here, we all know what it is.

The right thing to do?  Like someone's life was ruined because of this.  Oh, the humanity...

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2008, 12:57:53 am »
I know they protected their ass with blah blah blah in writing. Don't quote crapmarts website for me and think you're a smart guy. I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking about what is the right thing to do here, we all know what it is.
We were all trying to take advantage of an error they made, knowing full well that it was an error when we placed our orders (even says so in the first post), so technically the right thing would of been for us to report the pricing error to walmart.  I knew going in there was a good chance they would cancel my order, so I'm just glad to get $10 gift card out of it.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2008, 02:07:57 am »
I guess if I write above all my posts  "this post may contain moronic statements" I will be held accountable if it does offend others and they decide to go on a rampage?

Does that work for you?  ;D

Can they reserve that right?  ;)

Yes. Yes you can.

Seriously though, there isn't anything anywhere citing that a store MUST honor an advertised price if that price is in error. I mentioned it once already, stores have always reserved the right to refuse a sale for almost any reason.

Tommy, you're mixing up, "the right thing to do," with what the store has the legal right to do. Advertising anything does not put the store into a legal contract for anything. The law defines advertisements as (IIRC) "Invitations to deal" or some such. This issue has been tested in some courts already.

So please. If you want to start bandying about legal mumbo jumbo, then cite your sources.
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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2008, 03:57:51 am »

Tommy, you're mixing up, "the right thing to do," with what the store has the legal right to do.


I'm not "mixing" it up. I'm saying as a company, on one hand you do have a legal right to change the price, and on the other hand you as a person in charge of the company can choose to do the right thing and honor it. It's a choice, you can choose to hide behind your insurance policy of words or you can make your customers feel happy with your company.

I'm not confused about what I'm saying or what the argument is, I'm arguing for the company to stand behind it's screw up even though they have a legal right to change the price, they shouldn't.




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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2008, 01:33:15 pm »
Once again, there is a radical difference between, as you put it, doing the right thing, and the legal obligations of a company. Wally doesn't make the the #1 spot of Fortune 500 companies earning a higher GNP than most countries by being nice. The ranklings of a few gamers over errant game pricing isn't going to matter much to a company that opens their own credit card division in an effort to save a projected $1 billion annually in fees to major credit card companies. People (who knew what they were ordering was literally a steal) were fortunate enough to be offered the $10 gift card as it were.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2008, 10:53:58 pm »
I think I see Tommy's point.  Yes, it's quite clear.

Tommy's all for doing the right thing.

So long as Tommy himself doesn't have to do the right thing.

In other words, ethics doesn't apply to Tommy.  Only corporations and other large business entities.
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2008, 11:27:17 pm »
I think I see Tommy's point.  Yes, it's quite clear.

Tommy's all for doing the right thing.

So long as Tommy himself doesn't have to do the right thing.

In other words, ethics doesn't apply to Tommy.  Only corporations and other large business entities.


Well, thats a fine post. It is very nice indeed, as long as you can explain what the hell you're talking about exactly.

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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2008, 09:23:19 pm »
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People (who knew what they were ordering was literally a steal)

The public (yes, you are a part of that) *should* be ethically motivated to inform WM of the pricing error.  Not try to get what, as SL suggested, a "steal," which essentially is what is happening.

You, as far as I know, weren't even able to get in on the deal, and yet you are seemingly peeved that WM isn't honoring their honest mistake.  Others here, who actually got in on it, were consequently denied, and are receiving $10 for free as a result of WM's mistake.  They are not raising a fit over what they knew was a mistake.

I assume not one of us here would have informed WM of the error had we the chance.  We're all a little guilty on that.  But at least we're not having a hissy-fit over it, whining that WM is in the wrong for not honoring the price.  We're in the wrong for not reporting it in the first place.  It's a two-way street.

You can't possibly tell me that as either a small business owner, or a large corporation that you would honor each and every pricing mistake your employees make.  This was obviously just a smaller error in the bigger scheme of things.  But many small things add up.  Which can cause costs to rise if they were forced to make good on every mistake.  What if they screwed up a $1000 item, and it only cost $10, and thousands got in on it?

I figured my post was fairly obvious already without a winded explanation.  Anyone else have trouble with it, or just tommy?  Do I need to continue?
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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2008, 11:28:14 pm »
I did not even attempt to buy this game but that is not why I was making a big deal about this.

It's up to Walmart to make sure they get their site correct and if I bought something at a price they listed I expect to pay for the item at that price, it's simple. I don't expect to get a lame email saying I chose to not buy the item anymore and for them to make me cancel the order. They screwed up, they need to pay the price when items where already bought and paid for.


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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2008, 02:04:00 am »
It's pretty obvious that tommy is the only one here that really has no inkling of the complexity of... let's just say, "pricing" goods on the internet. He also has no desire to actually pay attention to what is being written and continues trying to attack a vector that only he appears to be aware of.

So can we just kill this, move on and leave tommy behind?

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2008, 10:07:20 am »

It should be noted we were told we were getting a $10 gift card.  I have not received one and will not be surprised if it never arrives.  I may actually never use it - I normally avoid Walmart on purpose in favor of whatever independent or even smaller chain retailers I can find.

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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2008, 11:05:39 am »

It should be noted we were told we were getting a $10 gift card.  I have not received one and will not be surprised if it never arrives.  I may actually never use it - I normally avoid Walmart on purpose in favor of whatever independent or even smaller chain retailers I can find.
I got mine shortly after the email that said I would be getting it.  You may want to check your spam box.

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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2008, 07:04:25 pm »

I had been looking and looking for it... finally found it with a string search I cut from Saint's email.  It was in the deleted items folder.  Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2008, 12:17:19 am »
You mean to tell me that when you go into a store, and you see a price of an item listed as $19.00, then you get to the register and they say, sorry, we made a mistake, it's really $35.00, you're not going to get a bit pissed and ask what the hell are you talking about and put up a fight over it?

Once again, I know about how they protected them self over pricing errors, but at some point the consumer needs to get mad and have them honor their price.

If we were not on a message board and were just talking person to person you know you would agree with me.

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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2008, 10:04:21 am »
You mean to tell me that when you go into a store, and you see a price of an item listed as $19.00, then you get to the register and they say, sorry, we made a mistake, it's really $35.00, you're not going to get a bit pissed and ask what the hell are you talking about and put up a fight over it?

Once again, I know about how they protected them self over pricing errors, but at some point the consumer needs to get mad and have them honor their price.

If we were not on a message board and were just talking person to person you know you would agree with me.

And you can't see the difference between 2 or 3 folks walking into a walmart to take advantage of a pricing mistake before it gets fixed vs. thousands of orders being made online before it was fixed??

Give me a break.  For the record, NO I would not agree with you.... online, offline, or otherwise.  You see all businesses as evil and can't see anything from their perspective.  The terms are there, if you don't like them, don't order from the store.
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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2008, 02:08:05 pm »

And you can't see the difference between 2 or 3 folks walking into a walmart to take advantage of a pricing mistake before it gets fixed vs. thousands of orders being made online before it was fixed??



I see that point. People wanted to get the item cheap. No doubt. How is that different than any other situation in life with people wanting to buy something cheap or save money?

I've heard of people looking around ebay for idiots who misprice their items, most people here do it and love to post about how they got something really cheap. It's not my job to make the prices, it's theres. You wouldn't email the ebay guy and tell him his item is worth more, no, you would just scoop it up for yourself, so don't give me that crap that you're looking out for the store or anyone else but yourself and expect me to swallow it. I see an item at a good price and I buy it, and so do you, they need to honor it, period. Posting a few words saying they are allowed to screw up in anyway they want to and not have to deal with any loss is not acceptable.

Maybe next time they will double check their site facts before releasing it over the internet.
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2008, 02:30:43 pm »
In the UK shops are protected by a trading standards law.
If they mis price the item they are under no obligation to sell the item, they must however remove it from sale for 3 days before restocking and repricing it.
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2008, 02:41:55 pm »

And you can't see the difference between 2 or 3 folks walking into a walmart to take advantage of a pricing mistake before it gets fixed vs. thousands of orders being made online before it was fixed??



I see that point. People wanted to get the item cheap. No doubt. How is that different than any other situation in life with people wanting to buy something cheap or save money?
The difference is losing a couple hundred dollars over an item the customer already has in their hand, vs losing tens of thousands of dollars over an item that doesn't get released for months.

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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2008, 07:27:50 pm »

In Texas, if a person/business gives you a price they're more or less bound to it...



Most people believe this about where they live, and while I don't know the law in Texas, I doubt you're right.  If you've got evidence of an actual bait-and-switch, then the store can get in trouble.  But stores are not typically bound to honor genuine pricing mistakes.  Some will, but that's just cos the good will generated may be worth more to them than the bad will that will go along with turning the customer away.  But contract law doesn't typically require it, and I suspect this is true in Texas just as it is pretty much everywhere else.
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Re: *DEAD* Super Smash Bros Brawl -$20 @ walmart now
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2008, 11:00:42 am »
Dude, I know you're a hot shot . . . guy . . . who . . . apparently knows random things about the law, but . . .


From a Texas Court of Appeals opinion written less than three months ago, where a guy purchased hard drives that were mistakenly listed for $1 each; the website refunded his money instead of delivering, i.e., money had changed hands:

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"If prospective seller's misrepresentation is limited to an item's price and that misrepresentation is made only in a general advertisement, claimant must prove an intentional misrepresentation, to recover under the Deceptive Trade Practices Act (DTPA) for misrepresentation of characteristics of goods or services, or misrepresentation that agreement confers or involves rights." V.T.C.A., Bus. & C. § 17.46(b)(5, 12).


BTW, the V.T.C.A. that the court cites at the end of that quote refers to Vernon's Texas Statutes and Codes Annotated.

So, to answer your question about who gets to define 'genuine pricing mistake', the answer is pretty clearly the retailer.  If the retailer says it was a mistake, it was a mistake . . . unless the consumer can prove otherwise.

Oh yeah . . . I'm a 2nd semester law student  8)
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« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2008, 11:30:59 am »
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Oh yeah . . . I'm a 2nd semester law student  8)


Do you always try to split hairs?  ;D

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Not always, no.
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« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2008, 07:44:36 pm »
No one wants to lose money and it is not fair that it should happen, but when someone takes the time to publish prices online and makes a mistake and people try to buy the item it should be honored. I would honor my price. I guess that's where I went wrong, thinking people are fair and would want to treat people as I would want to be treated is not easy to find.

If anyone here were to try to get out of their price they would be crucified for it, but not Walmart.

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« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2008, 07:56:52 pm »
If anyone here were to try to get out of their price they would be crucified for it, but not Walmart.
If I had a mint arcade cabinet that I wanted to sell for $300 and I accidently made a post in b/s/t forum that said it was for sale for only $3, then I can assure you that I would not honor that $3 price.  I simply say "whoops, pricing typo it's actually $300" and I highly doubt anyone here would be upset.  Most likely everyone would say it seemed to cheap to be true, so it's not a surprise the actual price is higher.

Now lets look at what actually happened with walmarts price error.  Instead of losing $297, they'd be losing tens of thousands, and when the price was corrected everyone here (except you) said that it seemed too cheap to be true and it's not a surprise the actual price is higher.

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« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2008, 08:00:38 pm »
You're going to the extreme to make your point, and it is not taken well.

We are talking about a $50 game at $20, it's reasonable.

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« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2008, 08:06:50 pm »
You're going to the extreme to make your point, and it is not taken well.

We are talking about a $50 game at $20, it's reasonable.
We're talking $30 less per game times hundreds (probably thousands) of sales, so we're talking well over ten thousand dollars.  I guess you don't understand the large scale nature of online sales.

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« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2008, 08:10:16 pm »
I understand that. It sucks to lose money. Unfortunately when you release a price on line and people try to buy it at that price you just have to sell it at that price. It sucks for them, but it just has to be done to sleep well at night and have people come to your store and buy stuff. Otherwise people see you as a lier who can't be held accountable for what you say.

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« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2008, 08:19:12 pm »
Otherwise people see you as a lier who can't be held accountable for what you say.
And by "people" I guess you mean only you   :P   

This has turned into another one of those Tommyland threads where Tommy disagrees with everyone, and even though it's impossible to change his mind once its set, people keep trying to do so.  Oh well, que sera, sera.

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« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2008, 08:28:50 pm »
I see you have turned to attacking me in some small way, that means you somewhat agree with me but cannot argue anymore.

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« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2008, 09:00:01 pm »
I agree, but still.. I don't really think it's the price so much, whatever it may be. They set the price and people bought it.... done deal. Their error is their loss.

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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2008, 09:31:54 pm »
I see you have turned to attacking me in some small way, that means you somewhat agree with me but cannot argue anymore.
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theres a difference between tired of arguing against a someone who doesn't understand and giving up because I somewhat agree with you.  Your entire argument is that you feel walmart did not do the right thing, and when an entire argument is made up of a feeling and not of facts, its impossible argue that the feeling is right or wrong.  We've explained how it was economically beneficial for them to do it, legal to do, that we knew it was a pricing error and that we at least partially expected them to cancel the order, so theres really no where else for this debate to go.  You feel walmart wronged their customers, while the rest of us don't.  My advice for you is to search out every deal website you can and try to gather a group of people to boycott walmart.  Let us know how it all turns out.

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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2008, 09:36:35 pm »
I see, you like to get screwed by companies and like to use the "we can't do anything about it" defense. Ok, carry on.

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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2008, 09:42:31 pm »
I see, you like to get screwed by companies and like to use the "we can't do anything about it" defense. Ok, carry on.
The difference is that I don't see it as me getting screwed by them, I see it as I was trying to screw them by taking advantage of their mistake, but they caught me in the act and put a stop to it.  I know you don't agree with that, but thats the way I see it.

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« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2008, 09:44:56 pm »
You should have said that earlier, that makes sense to me now that you said it like that. I don't agree, but now I see where you're coming from. You feel guilty.
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« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2008, 09:52:57 pm »
You should have said that earlier, that makes sense to me now that you said it like that. I don't agree, but now I see where you're coming from. You feel guilty.
I actually did say it earlier, it was the first response I made to you in this thread.  I guess it was just a matter of wording it differently.

And I don't feel guilty since I feel no remorse for my actions and would do it again in a heartbeat.  It was more that I knew I was trying to take advantage of them, so I'm not upset when they stopped me.

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« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2008, 09:58:33 pm »
You didn't say it with as much honesty as you just did. Say things how you mean it an I will understand, don't beat around the bush.  ;D

I'm satisfied with your position now. Since you worded it right.

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« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2008, 08:36:02 pm »
Tommy, the purpose of the law isn't to help you latch onto windfalls, or capitalize on peoples' mistakes.  The purpose is to redress injuries.  When Wal-Mart refunded Saint's and Chad's money, there was no injury, save the negligible work of clicking "Add to cart".  There's does not amount to an actionable injury.  It's ---smurfing--- retarded.  It's like saying that Walmart should be able to sue you for damages if you fill up a cart with groceries and their checker rings it all up and then you realize you left your wallet at home and have to leave without the groceries.  Gimme a ---smurfing--- break.  We live in a society.  There has to be some flexibility. 

We simply are not talking about anybody acting in bad faith.  What's more, the honest mistake didn't even hurt anybody.  In spite of that, though, they still gave out gift cards as a gesture of good will.  The problem here . . . the one and only problem, is your absurd sense of entitlement.  Is it a wonder that we have so many frivolous law suits in our country?
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