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The whole 8 way as a 4way joystick issue
caykroyd:
Good point. Why didn't I think of that? Then have a LED or something on the CP to tell whether it's 4way or 8way.
Cue-Ball,
My guess is that I will end up with an E-stick or OSCAR plate because so many people are displeased otherwise, but want to try the logic solution for Ss & Gs.
Druin:
I'm beginning to fear the prospects of applying logic to the 8way, but nonetheless I am about to hook up some LEDs to visualize when I hit a direction/diagonal and see what is happening...
Druin:
After hooking up some LEDs I noticed I kept getting stuck in the diagonals...if I am up, then go right, I almost always land in the diagonal, which is still ok, BUT when I try to go back Up, I may still be in the diagonal so no observable change is evident...
So almost immediately after discovering this...I started thinking about a way to make use of the free box of new solenoids I got at work...
So now I'm staring at the Oscar 4way restrictor plate setup and brainstorming....the fact that it's in 2 pieces with a mount hole on each piece....I see opportunity to put RESTRICTORS on the restrictor to help guide it when it's pulled/pushed by a solenoid attached to the mount hole on it....so a solenoid could attach to the mount hole and pull that half of the plate set away from the shaft on an angle, and the other non-mount-hole part of that plate would be restrained from going out of wack too much..then the solenoid pushes the plate back in place and the restrictor guides the restrictor (WHAT??) back into position.
Just a thought
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Druin on May 07, 2003, 07:48:42 pm ---Just a thought
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And you have a USB connection from the PC to the solenoid, and a hack to the MAME source, so when you start a 4-way game in MAME it sends a signal over the USB interface to fire the solenoid to lock the restrictors in place and when you start a 8-way game it fires the solenoid to release the restrictors . . .
C'mon, how hard is it to drop some plates in and take them out ;)
But, I have to say, I still admire your ingenuity and inventiveness.
Dav:
--- Quote from: Druin on May 07, 2003, 05:41:31 pm ---One problem is as someone said, if you're trying to aim Up, but are slightly left, thus hitting diagonal....then as was my case, I want to go left, I still stay diagonal and nothing is really registered as a change on the stick...
This is the part I have to observe on some LEDs or a scope and just try moving the 8way around and see what appears to happen. Maybe there is no way out...
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What it boils down to is that when you hit a diagonal you're going to have to flip a coin on what was really meant. I'm sure you can come up with some logic to guess correctly most of the time. 60%-90% who knows, but you'll never guess 100%. And with 180 degrees or more out of 360 being diagonals the odds will catch you. It's all been tried in software already.
Dave