Author Topic: This old Ms. PAC worth $50...? Now with Picts! (Read 6765 times)

knave · « **on:** May 23, 2007, 12:49:25 pm »

I'm thinking about picking this up. Couple hour drive though...

It's EMPTY... whatever that means. I assume no monitor, PS or board. Possibly no Harness or Coin mechs. It looks like there is a stick and the start buttons.

Is it a sin to put my Galaxian parts in there... I have a whole setup...mon, PS and board. I could add a Jamma harness and an adapter and be in business.

I figure I can use the original CP alone and use the P2 start for fire. (I never play Galaxian 2 player.)

Let me know what you think?

Before I saw this I was just going to build a Pac/Galaxian cab from scratch. I think I could live with the MsPac/Galaga style though...besides no one but me would notice the difference.

ChadTower · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2007, 12:58:09 pm »

Yes, it is worth $50, the marquee and CP are worth $50 alone.

Jeff AMN · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:35:24 pm »

That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for around here...it's well worth it in my eyes.

Malenko · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:39:15 pm »

if you dont want it, where is it? maybe I can go snag it up

vintagegamer · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:45:29 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on May 23, 2007, 12:58:09 pm

Yes, it is worth $50, the marquee and CP are worth $50 alone.

Ya think so Chad? I never see the Ms Pac marquees selling for some reason- I actually have an extra one to unload myself.

I could understand the CP bringing some money if the stik's functional and the decal's not all mutilated like mine was.

VINTAGEGAMER

Kaytrim · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:57:53 pm »

Go pick it up Knave. From the looks of the pic you posted there might be a monitor in there. Maybe they said it was empty because it didn't work.

TTFN

Kaytrim

SavannahLion · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:58:40 pm »

Quote from: vintagegamer on May 23, 2007, 01:45:29 pm

Quote from: ChadTower on May 23, 2007, 12:58:09 pm

Yes, it is worth $50, the marquee and CP are worth $50 alone.

Ya think so Chad? I never see the Ms Pac marquees selling for some reason- I actually have an extra one to unload myself.

Just tell 'em it's gilded.

shardian · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:25:15 pm »

The cabinet is definitely worth $50, it's the "couple hour drive" part that isn't worth it. I can't think of a single stripped cabinet that is worth more than an hour drive, tops.

shorthair · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:06:21 pm »

Yeah, I'm with Kaytrim, looks like there might be a monitor in there. Also, obviously the mechs are in the picture. Might ask if they're gonna take 'em out.

RayB · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:11:23 pm »

glass bezel is also worth some coin.

horseboy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:19:43 pm »

Quote from: shorthair on May 23, 2007, 03:06:21 pm

obviously the mechs are in the picture. Might ask if they're gonna take 'em out.

Wow. You can see right through the coin door, huh? Coin mechs are behind the coin door shorty.

Nostalgia · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:22:09 pm »

Id make it into a nice Galaga.

Its definitly worth 50.00

Havok · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:33:36 pm »

Quote from: shardian on May 23, 2007, 02:25:15 pm

The cabinet is definitely worth $50, it's the "couple hour drive" part that isn't worth it. I can't think of a single stripped cabinet that is worth more than an hour drive, tops.

I would drive just about anywhere to get a Discs of Tron Environmental...

Chris G · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:35:29 pm »

I'd be all over that like horseboy on pbj.

SirPeale · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:12:27 pm »

*shrug* I'd drive two hours for it. Those cabs make great conversions. I'm working on my second Galaxian conversion.

ChadTower · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:14:04 pm »

Quote from: shardian on May 23, 2007, 02:25:15 pm

The cabinet is definitely worth $50, it's the "couple hour drive" part that isn't worth it. I can't think of a single stripped cabinet that is worth more than an hour drive, tops.

There are a couple I'd do it for, but mostly because I have more parts than good cabs. It would have to be one of a specific set of games or one of the real grails.

But yeah, generally, the populated CP I would think is $20-30, the marquee 15-25, all depending on condition... it also has the bezel and coin door right in the pic too, which are each worth money.

I don't think that's a cab you drive an hour for either, though. It's just too much in gas.

knave · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:20:34 pm »

I called the guy...He said that there is no monitor or board. He "thinks" the harness is intact but hasn't bothered to check and that the glass, CP, joy, buttons, coin mechs and possibly the Power supply are in there.

Looks like too much is there to pass up, But...things that look too-good-to-be-true... $:-\$

Google maps says it's 1 hour and 38 minutes from me. I have tenative plans to pick it up on monday.

Now my bigest problem is that my wife asked me to cool it with the cabs for a bit...I think I have to treat it as a "nesessary" part for my Galaxian cab.

I did the math...it will cost me ~$26 in gas and the 3-4 hours of driving.

If there's a harness in that thing wonder if it's Jamma...Why else would they paint the sides of the cab black? But since the marquee it still Ms-Pac...I dunno.

I'm still not 100% sure. But I'll sleep on it. There's no doubt it would be a cool project.

ChadTower · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:22:13 pm »

Dude, 90 minutes each way... hell no, unless you're in a real cab-sparse place, or you have a total hardon for a Ms Pac, just wait for a closer one that actually has some art on it.

spacies · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:54:05 pm »

I'd buy it.

Gas vs the time and money to build a cabinet.

Gas wins!

Go get it!

Kaytrim · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:32:38 pm »

I agree with spacies. Go pick her up.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:42:28 pm »

Quote from: knave on May 23, 2007, 04:20:34 pm

I called the guy...He said that there is no monitor or board. He "thinks" the harness is intact but hasn't bothered to check and that the glass, CP, joy, buttons, coin mechs and possibly the Power supply are in there.

Yeah, guy told me my cab was completely gutted, no pcb, no monitor, nothing except the coin mech and controls, when I went to mine up. Turns out, everything is there except part of the controls and the monitor. Even discovered an extra board for a different game just hanging out.

This guy might know what he's talking about though. Is that the back of another cab in the photo?

knave · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2007, 06:02:43 pm »

Wow...now I'm really torn. There are a few reasons why I shouldn't buy it...but there is lots to consider why I should. Am I going to find another midway cab in the future?...it's not like they are as common as dynamo's.

Anyhow...the guy actualy has a few cabs for sale. Seems like an op. or service tech or whatever. So yeah he has lots of cabs. The thing is I'm not sure he's ever opened this cab himself...He could have just bought it empty so who knows what I'll find.

In this case though I'm pretty sure it has no board or monitor and the harness and PS are questionable. The rest should be there.

What I don't know is if there's any damage, rot, cracks, mold, rat droppings etc...

If I'm going to go down there I'll ask before I go. At least for damage...

So correct me if I'm wrong...I think these cabs are kinda Rare...Do they show up all the time? I've seen only one other cheep Pac-man cab since I've been looking...and it was further away.

Is 90 minutes too far to go to pay ~$80 for an sorta empty cab. (after gas and one bridge toll.

Should I wait for a "real" Galaxian cab?

Chris G · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2007, 06:10:20 pm »

I know gas isn't cheap these days, but maybe you can just think of it as a road trip. Make a day of it and find something else to do in that area? Then if the cabinet doesn't work out, you won't feel like it was a complete waste.

bleargh · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2007, 06:21:21 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on May 23, 2007, 04:22:13 pm

Dude, 90 minutes each way... hell no, unless you're in a real cab-sparse place, or you have a total hardon for a Ms Pac, just wait for a closer one that actually has some art on it.

90 minutes and you guys are saying "no-go" ?!?

Sheesh... gotta love where you live...

The closest arcade to where I live is just over an hour of freeway driving from the house, and the next closest is another 2.5hrs on top of that. Anything within 3hrs driving each way would be fair game up here...

spacies · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2007, 06:46:42 pm »

Quote from: Chris G on May 23, 2007, 06:10:20 pm

I know gas isn't cheap these days, but maybe you can just think of it as a road trip. Make a day of it and find something else to do in that area? Then if the cabinet doesn't work out, you won't feel like it was a complete waste.

Excellent idea there.

Ok, think of it this way.

How much would that cab cost you to build?

Your labour to build? $20+ per hour? 2 days? 16 hours @ $20 per hour = 320.
Materials for cabinet? 50+ easily.
Metal control panel? 20+
Marquee? 20+
Glass bezel? 20+
Coin door? 20+

Now add all that up and subtract from the already built Ms Pac.

Now tell me its not worth it.

Spend that 16 hours with your kids (if you have any).
Take the advice Chris G and throw the kids/wife/partner in the truck and make a day of it.

Don't listen to the old ---daisies--- telling you its too far.

Hit the road jack!

paigeoliver · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2007, 01:07:03 am »

You see a lot of black Ms. Pacs because operators would convert them back after other titles bombed. Other times they would just paint them because the artwork was damaged. Other times they will be black because they are actually in Pac-Man, Galaga, or Galaxian cabinets.

ChadTower · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:07:52 am »

So once Ms Pac goes black, can she go back?

shardian · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:16:58 am »

I would say alot of us are biased to not getting it because we already have a garage full of projects.

If this is your first project and you are excited about it, go get it.

ChadTower · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:19:38 am »

I fully agree with sharidan.

Worth is relative, you have to decide that for yourself.

I remember driving all the way from southern MA to the QC border for a nice Tank II. Tank II isn't even fun to play.

SirPeale · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2007, 12:34:13 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on May 24, 2007, 09:19:38 am

I fully agree with sharidan.

Worth is relative, you have to decide that for yourself.

I remember driving all the way from southern MA to the QC border for a nice Tank II. Tank II isn't even fun to play.

Yeah, how is my baby doing these days, anyway?

MAME TIME · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2007, 12:43:36 pm »

buy it and mame it,

ChadTower · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2007, 12:55:36 pm »

Quote from: Peale on May 24, 2007, 12:34:13 pm

Yeah, how is my baby doing these days, anyway?

Perfectly safe, though in the same state as when I got her. I should clear a path to that one and do some real troubleshooting now that we both have much better skills than when you found her.

Crowquill · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2007, 02:09:38 pm »

I'd say it's worth it. Especially if you actually like Ms Pac. You could always go the MAME route to get it up and running again. Just having the artwork on the marquee, CP and bezel is a great start. Or being black already you could hunt up some Galaga artwork.

I'm currently nursing a case of pac-regret. I missed a call from a friend last weekend who saw a Pac-Man at a yard sale--$50 in working condition. I even had the day off and cash in my pocket. I just missed the call. I don't think my wife would've killed me for that one either as it would have been a quick project to clean it up and (probably) sell it.

knave · « **Reply #33 on:** May 29, 2007, 01:00:51 pm »

Here's the update...

I went down to see the cab...the guy was pretty cool. We chatted arcade for a while, he offered to sell me a Pacman cocktail. (Wanted to but just couldn't). Turns out he builds and sells cabs for Mame conversions. His garage was full of cabs like 15-20 or so.

The Ms. Pac...

Over all it was a solid cab. wood was in good condition with some chipping along the back edges and one chip on the right front of the CP. The back door could use a little love too. The t-molding has been removed.

The marquee is in great shape...no scratches that I can see and the art is bright and clear. CPO art is ok...there is some damage at the corners. The glass besel is also in ok condition, some scratches....but the art is in surprisingly good condition. A few bubbles and one half-dime chip in the upper right.

The coin door has the switches and mounts but the mechs are gone. as are the front two crome coin entry plates. No rust though...

As for everything else, it seems that all the little things are there. Handles, Wheels, Harness, back door switch, power supply, CP, 4-way, buttons, brackets to mount the monitor, brackets to mount the board, etc...

Then again I don't know what is supposed to be in there but it looks complete.

In any case he gave me a Jamma harness and the cab for $50. and it's now in my garage.

Pictures and my plans for her will come later.

Some other stuff that this guy had for sale:
NOS Ms. Pac CPO
Quart of Ms. Pac blue paint
New Ms. Pac Harness
PacMan coctail, complete but dissassembled Monitor had lots of burn.
1942 cocktail complete but no monitor.
about 3-4 cabs

I got the feeling he would have sold me anything in his garage if I wanted to pay for it. He had stacks of new 19 inch monitors and a few tri-syncs. one arcade VGA card, t-moulding, and other random crap. While I thought his prices were ok, I think better deals are out there.

Crowquill · « **Reply #34 on:** May 29, 2007, 02:25:29 pm »

Quote from: knave on May 29, 2007, 01:00:51 pm

Some other stuff that this guy had for sale:
NOS Ms. Pac CPO
Quart of Ms. Pac blue paint
New Ms. Pac Harness
PacMan coctail, complete but dissassembled Monitor had lots of burn.
1942 cocktail complete but no monitor.
about 3-4 cabs

I got the feeling he would have sold me anything in his garage if I wanted to pay for it. He had stacks of new 19 inch monitors and a few tri-syncs. one arcade VGA card, t-moulding, and other random crap. While I thought his prices were ok, I think better deals are out there.

Sounds like he'd had his own plans for that cab at one time. How much did he want for the Pac cocktail? I'm working on fixing up a Ms Pac cocktail right now and I'm held up at the part where I have to pay $55-$80 for replacement glass.

vintagegamer · « **Reply #35 on:** May 29, 2007, 03:34:52 pm »

Quote from: RayB on May 23, 2007, 03:11:23 pm

glass bezel is also worth some coin.

I have one of these too if anyone is in need of one..

VINTAGEGAMER

spacies · « **Reply #36 on:** May 29, 2007, 04:02:28 pm »

Congrats Knave.

Look forward to your progress.

Neilyboy · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:08:58 am »

well if you dont have a use for that control panel later on let me know id give ya some $$ for it. I just got a ms pac cab and the control panel is there and in good shape just missing the artwork. and im trying to keep mine as original as possible so i wouldnt mind getting one taht was in better shape than mine!

Neil

Havok · « **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2007, 11:02:45 am »

You made the right choice. Now...

vintagegamer · « **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2007, 11:15:46 am »

This thing's home so send the pics!!


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