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P360 vs. Super review complete
u_rebelscum:
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--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on April 05, 2003, 07:04:50 am ---Oscar, that 360 handle looks just like the happs competition sticks. Also the spring sounds like the happs competition heavy springs. Can you comment on these points (if the parts are interchangable, for instance)?
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The handles do look very similar but there are a few dimensional differences. Right off the bat I am going to say that they aren't interchangeable because of the different shaft diameters; 10mm for the Comp and 9.5mm for the P360. The e-clip grooves are positioned differently on the shafts, too, but that could likely be accommodated for by using different spacers. Here's a pic of the handles and some sketches I drew with dimensions I measured from each of the sticks.
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The springs are very similar. The P360 has a slightly larger wire diameter and feels just a tad stiffer, but other that they are interchangeable.
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Thanks again! Those side-by-side pics really show the differences.
I had just opened up my competition hacked w/ raider pro sticks and replaced the springs just before reading you review, and that's why I was really drawn to the almost similarities.
--- Quote from: Homebrew on April 05, 2003, 11:50:46 pm ---Does anyone else find that the P360's joystick grips to be too hard? I think they feel much more like plastic than the super's. Am i making any sense? To me the Super grips have a softer, almost rubbery feel. Not quite sure how to explain it...
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I understand what you're saying. Sounds just like the softer "rubber-ish" semi-trans blue raider pro handle vs the harder "plastic-y" black raider pro handle.
GroovyTuesdaY:
I ordered my SLIKSTIK with the P360's, since they didnt CLICK. I'm sorry, but to me, a joystick SHOULD NOT click LOL. Buttons.....well..ok, i can live with that, but Not stick. :D hehee. Now, this is just MY personal preference as i know there a TON of people out there that dont seem to mind that too much.
I bought an arcade joystick for the SNES & Genesis called the ARCADIAN and it was pretty nifty since it used REAL arcade parts. Not sure what the type of joystick i had ,but it CLICKED and it drov
e me NUTS!
So, for my Slikstick i opted to get the upgrade to the P360'S and im hopeing that they will feel great. After reading OSCARS review, im sure i wont be disappointed!!! Thanks OSCAR!
Anyone else have the p360 with their SLIKSTIK?
Chime in and let us know how you like them . :)
G~
Grasshopper:
Thanks for a very interesting review Oscar. Please can you (or anyone else) answer a few questions:
Does anyone know who actually manufactures the Perfect 360s? It might be cheaper to buy directly from them rather than through Happ who are after all just distributors. It is definitely not Industrias Lorenzo. I emailed then to ask whether they sold optical joysticks some time ago and they said no.
Are the Perfect 360s still being made? The reason I ask is that the top section of the joystick's base looks like the top of an old Wico leaf base, and they are definitely no longer manufactured.
I read in a very old post that the Wico ball top handles could be used with Perfect 360 bases. Is that true?
Some time ago you said you would be doing a review of the Wico leaf joysticks. Was it ever written?
Thanks in advance.
PCC:
Oscar, you had previously tossed around the idea of making a ball top replacement handle for the Happ Supers and Competitions. I would think that there is also some interest a ball top for the P360.
OSCAR:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on April 07, 2003, 03:51:50 pm ---Thanks for a very interesting review Oscar. Please can you (or anyone else) answer a few questions:
Does anyone know who actually manufactures the Perfect 360s? It might be cheaper to buy directly from them rather than through Happ who are after all just distributors. It is definitely not Industrias Lorenzo. I emailed then to ask whether they sold optical joysticks some time ago and they said no.
Are the Perfect 360s still being made? The reason I ask is that the top section of the joystick's base looks like the top of an old Wico leaf base, and they are definitely no longer manufactured.
I read in a very old post that the Wico ball top handles could be used with Perfect 360 bases. Is that true?
Some time ago you said you would be doing a review of the Wico leaf joysticks. Was it ever written?
Thanks in advance.
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Ahhh, clever Grasshopper... :)
I guess the below photos explain who manufactures the P360 bases. Sometimes ya can't see the forest for the trees! Regarding the review of the Wico leaf, I never completed it. Since they are no longer being produced, I sort of lost interest. I jumped ahead on the P360 because they seem to be the flavor-of-the-month lately. Perhaps I'll go back and finish that one when time permits.
PCC - After I did some digging around I found that it wouldn't be economically feasible for me to produce the handles. For a relatively low production (as far as plastic moldings go), the initial costs of the molds and tooling would make the price of the joysticks astronomical. I imagine this kind of project would have to be taken on by someone with an "inside track", if you take my meaning. I believe the person who was eBay'ing the reproduction balltop handles either worked at, had contacts, or owned a plastic molding facility based on some comments I read on RGVAC.
However the good thing is that Wico balltop handles fit the P360's perfect, so there isn't a need for anyone to reinvent the wheel. :)
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