Author Topic: PSP - I will let you guys be the judge (Read 8157 times)

SNAAKE · « **on:** September 04, 2006, 11:52:59 pm »

so I buy this psp, here is the original thread.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=57070.0

I get it and its a 2.6 psp which doesnt run homebrews or emulators. now the seller is telling me to send it back and he will send me a 1.5 psp. now how am I supposed to trust this guy ?? he already tried ripping me off. how about I send the psp back to him and he never returns to this site and never replies my PM ??

now I told him, HE should send the 1.5 first then I make sure everything works and I will gladly send his 2.6 back to him. and he is telling he wont this. If not just give me a refund and we can call it even but he says "NO WAY I AM GIVING YOU A REFUND".

he is the one sold it as a 1.5 and its NOT a 1.5 so he should be the one responsible for either a refund or a replacement.

WHO SHOULD SEND THE PSP FIRST ??

lcddream · « **Reply #1 on:** September 04, 2006, 11:57:06 pm »

not you.

oceancube · « **Reply #2 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:03:24 am »

omg this is crazy.... i told you send me my psp back so i can send you the psp that says 1.5 on it.. i am not a thieft like ive told you before so pls lets work this out on pm's guy. this is crazy and your making me look like a really bad person when im really not. i have proof im not a bad person.... sent you my home number and addres and all so you can even call me and your still doing this...come'on man act like a grownup and stop trying to make me look like a bad person.... just ship the psp out and you'll have your by friday saturday latest.. and i made sure this one says 1.5 this time......darn.......i messed up one time, now i have the correct deal and you will receive it, and you will be happy.. im sorry for sending the 3.0 or whatever you said i sent, now i went out my way and got a 1.5 and want to work it out.. don't know why you want all these ppl to say it was my fault ,when i already told you i was gonna send you the 1.5, so just send the psp asap,so i can get this straight!!!!

leapinlew · « **Reply #3 on:** September 05, 2006, 01:18:17 am »

If neither of you can agree. You can pay a 3rd party to handle the deal. Ship it to a trusted 3rd party and send payment to a trusted 3rd party.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #4 on:** September 05, 2006, 02:04:46 am »

oceancube,you have 2 opitions here.

- you send the 1.5 psp first, I test it out and make sure it works, THEN I will send the other one back.

- refund my $$ in full AND the cost to send the psp back because its your fault and you misadvertized your item. you sold it as a 1.5 and its not.

I've had ENOUGH of this crap ! so the grow up already and do either one of the 2 above. I would have trusted you with this but you already showed signs of dishonesty and I am not taking any more chances. What can I POSSIBLY do after I ship this one out and you decide not to ever return to this site ??

SNAAKE · « **Reply #5 on:** September 05, 2006, 02:06:39 am »

Quote from: leapinlew on September 05, 2006, 01:18:17 am

If neither of you can agree. You can pay a 3rd party to handle the deal. Ship it to a trusted 3rd party and send payment to a trusted 3rd party.

if he wants to do that then he is paying for all the shipping to send it to a trusted 3rd party because CLEARLY its not my fault.

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:27:47 am »

Yeah..... I will be the third party, send both of them to me and I will pay shipping for both of them

And my middle is Harpal

pointdablame · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:28:00 am »

You dealt with this through paypal. so you have them to fall back on (which isn't bulletproof, but its' something)

If neither of you want to ship it out first, cross ship with tracking, and just be done with it. Agree to ship it on a certain day in a certain way (Wednesday by Priority, or whatever) and finish the deal.

If you don't want to do that either SNAAKE, then a 3rd party is a good idea. Find a good trader somewhere near and/or between the two of you and finish the trade that way. You should each pay for the shipping though if you do this. If this makes you feel much safer about the trade, you should be willing to spend an extra $5 to get what you want.

my .02 from all the online trading I've done.

dweebs0r · « **Reply #8 on:** September 05, 2006, 09:17:27 am »

I think you deserve a refund.

File a paypal grievence and withdraw it if you get your refund.

This guy told you it was a 1.5 and it wasn't.

I would be royally ticked off as well.

Let Paypal sort this mess out.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #9 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:26:05 am »

yeah I already filed a claim. oceancube doesnt wanna do this on my terms then I guess we dont have a deal. I am being as nice as possible but I simply cant trust the guy. I mean...what if DO get a psp then it doesnt work and he will tell me something like "but it worked when I had it" just like how he is telling me "it was a 1.5 psp"
*waiting for answers from oceancube*

NightGod · « **Reply #10 on:** September 05, 2006, 11:40:52 am »

PayPal is going to make you send your PSP back to him before he sends the replacement one to you, anyway. Not quite sure what you hope to gain by doing it that way-now all you'll do is make it harder to file a claim if the second one he sends is faulty.

boykster · « **Reply #11 on:** September 05, 2006, 12:15:34 pm »

Just downgrade the PSP to 1.5 yourself? I beleive there are downgraders for up to fw 2.71 as long as the motherboard isn't a TA-082 revision.

pointdablame · « **Reply #12 on:** September 05, 2006, 12:16:12 pm »

Quote from: NightGod on September 05, 2006, 11:40:52 am

PayPal is going to make you send your PSP back to him before he sends the replacement one to you, anyway. Not quite sure what you hope to gain by doing it that way-now all you'll do is make it harder to file a claim if the second one he sends is faulty.

exactly. If you want a refund from PayPal, you MUST ship it back first and have proof it was delivered.

I still think working out a cross trade or mediated trade is a better idea.

Zakk · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2006, 12:38:27 pm »

Wow, I think you're overreacting. Seems like he wants to make it right, but why would he send you a second PSP when you went off like a firecracker? If he sent you a PSP after you paid for it, seems like he's not a crook. I mean, does it work, or you just want one FOR PIRATED GAMES?

Send the thing back and let him make it right, seems like you're just throwing a fit for no good reason.

leapinlew · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2006, 12:45:49 pm »

Quote from: SNAAKE on September 05, 2006, 10:26:05 am

yeah I already filed a claim. oceancube doesnt wanna do this on my terms then I guess we dont have a deal. I am being as nice as possible but I simply cant trust the guy. I mean...what if DO get a psp then it doesnt work and he will tell me something like "but it worked when I had it" just like how he is telling me "it was a 1.5 psp"
*waiting for answers from oceancube*

My .02

I don't think bringing this out into a public forum is being "as nice as possible". I think if he was a real crook, he would have never sent you the PSP. Painting yourself as a victim when you have a PSP in hand (that you could resell if you had to) isn't really a victim if you compare it to all those scammed by the Harpal incident.

From what I can tell, Oceancube is trying to work with you. To resolve this incident, I would say you may have to shell out a few more bucks for shipping. I don't think you should have to pay for the shipping either, but I'd rather pay a bit more on shipping then deal with filing a claim with Paypal.

Yes he was wrong when he said what the firmware was, but he did send you a unit. I'd give him the opportunity to fix it and if you don't trust him to fix it - pay to send it to a 3rd party and hope he's willing to do the same.

nullb0y · « **Reply #15 on:** September 05, 2006, 02:52:23 pm »

my 0.01
cause i dont have much sence lol
id say just file with paypal
if he refunds u send him and empty box with a tracking label on it

j/k
anyways id just go for a refund over a "replacement"
and i think theres a way to downgrade higher revisions now

missioncontrol · « **Reply #16 on:** September 05, 2006, 03:05:24 pm »

I think you both should send them at the same time an to insure this happens you both need to hire a guy with a digital camera to follow you to the post office. Once you both give the Post office clerk the package, have the guy snap your picture... also be sure to be holding the current newspaper with the front page clearly showing... and whoever doesn't show up to the post office on the decided day is the real crook.....

Harry Potter · « **Reply #17 on:** September 05, 2006, 03:08:14 pm »

I like the third party solution myself.

HowardC is a perfect candidate. Although by the time you get it back, you'll be 100% convinced that the PSP sucks.

divemaster127 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 05, 2006, 04:16:30 pm »

Oceancube sounds like he is trying to fix the problem & he did send you a psp. Paypal will require you to return it before they issue a refund.
dm

JackTucky · « **Reply #19 on:** September 05, 2006, 04:24:27 pm »

Quote from: Harry Potter on September 05, 2006, 03:08:14 pm

I like the third party solution myself.

HowardC is a perfect candidate. Although by the time you get it back, you'll be 100% convinced that the PSP sucks.

I suggest maximrecoil. He can put a punch out high score on there and break your joystick.

Jacktucky

oceancube · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2006, 07:34:07 pm »

Quote from: Zakk on September 05, 2006, 12:38:27 pm

Wow, I think you're overreacting. Seems like he wants to make it right, but why would he send you a second PSP when you went off like a firecracker? If he sent you a PSP after you paid for it, seems like he's not a crook. I mean, does it work, or you just want one FOR PIRATED GAMES?

Send the thing back and let him make it right, seems like you're just throwing a fit for no good reason.

okay snake, i tried to make it easy on us both and it didn't work now i have hold on paypal, just remember i tried to help both of us out and pls lmk how to post a picture on here so i can show you that i have another working psp that reads 1.5 firmware on it... dont really know what i did really wrong to you for you not to trust me, i messed up sending you a brand new psp and i got the right one and you decided to put me as a liar and thieft, besides all you told me was "I WANT THE PSP YOU HAVE ONLY I WILL PAY $200.00 FOR IT, THEN YOU ASKED FOR 1 GB CARD AS WELL AND I AGREED, now i have to prove that i sent you the psp and card to paypal and your gonna be stuck with a 3.0 psp that you wanna hack into!!!!! like i said i tried to work with you i gave you my hm. number and all and you still insist, then you wanna pm me and start using bad language, that will not work buddy..... again to all im really sorry this happened but i tried and i know i look like a bad guy but im really not, pls all ppl ive dealt with please back me up on this one!!!!

SNAAKE · « **Reply #21 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:47:36 pm »

ok cross ship it, I will ship yours tomorrow and post a tracking # for it. you do the SAME. confirm you are shipping it tomorrow.

and those of you think I am being unreasonable here, read this again.

what if I DO get a psp then it doesnt work and he will tell me something like "but it worked when I had it" just like how he is telling me "it was a 1.5 psp but now its a 2.6"

Quote from: Zakk on September 05, 2006, 12:38:27 pm

If he sent you a PSP after you paid for it, seems like he's not a crook. I mean, does it work, or you just want one FOR PIRATED GAMES?

you are f-ing kidding me right ??

he sold me a 1.5 psp and its NOT a 1.5 psp. he IS the bad buy here for false advertizing. its not relevent what I want the psp for and has nothing to do with this thread.

divemaster127 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 05, 2006, 08:53:13 pm »

I'm sorry but i would not agree to a cross ship if a hold has been placed on the funds, you need to release the funds back to the seller or return the unit first, the buyer has the advantage with paypal esp. if you paid with a credit card. In any business transaction the buyer has the most advantages. Just return the unit & keep your tracking info to show paypal so you do not lose your money

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #23 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:08:44 pm »

Quote from: SNAAKE on September 05, 2006, 08:47:36 pm

ok cross ship it, I will ship yours tomorrow and post a tracking # for it. you do the SAME. confirm you are shipping it tomorrow.

and those of you think I am being unreasonable here, read this again.

what if I DO get a psp then it doesnt work and he will tell me something like "but it worked when I had it" just like how he is telling me "it was a 1.5 psp but now its a 2.6"

Quote from: Zakk on September 05, 2006, 12:38:27 pm
If he sent you a PSP after you paid for it, seems like he's not a crook. I mean, does it work, or you just want one FOR PIRATED GAMES?

you are f-ing kidding me right ??
he sold me a 1.5 psp and its NOT a 1.5 psp. he IS the bad buy here for false advertizing. its not relevent what I want the psp for and has nothing to do with this thread.

Snaake, homie you are answering your own question. Go for the refund and truck with this guy. If someone gives you the clap the first time, are you going back for seconds and saying maybe she washed this time?!?!

Dude go for the refund. It is not like the PSP 1.5 is hard to find.

ADD NOTE:
If he over looked sending you the 1.5 vs 2.whatever, what makes you think you want get a brick in the mail. $200 is enough to get you one from anybody.

ie:
oh,oh,oh look at me

oceancube · « **Reply #24 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:18:30 pm »

release my paypal account first, then i will talk to you about getting the psp to each other via pm, like i said --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- i have the other psp ready to ship out and will not give you a refund, i should just drop this after the way you've treated me and talked your mouth the way you did about me, i have not said one bad comment about you or told you this and that, i simply want to work it out... lmk , i will not ship out 2 psp's to you , i keep my word on what i have said, i will ship out your psp in excellent working condition, as a matter of fact this one looks cleaner than the brand new one i shipped out to you! if not paypal we go!! dont know any other way to make you feel like im not gonna rip you off.. you have all my information , phone number ,address and such. i know a couple guys here on the boards that live in san antonio that will probably chime in.... lmk dude

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #25 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:25:20 pm »

Quote from: oceancube on September 05, 2006, 10:18:30 pm

release my paypal account first, then i will talk to you about getting the psp to each other via pm, like i said --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- i have the other psp ready to ship out and will not give you a refund, i should just drop this after the way you've treated me and talked your mouth the way you did about me, i have not said one bad comment about you or told you this and that, i simply want to work it out... lmk , i will not ship out 2 psp's to you , i keep my word on what i have said, i will ship out your psp in excellent working condition, as a matter of fact this one looks cleaner than the brand new one i shipped out to you! if not paypal we go!! dont know any other way to make you feel like im not gonna rip you off.. you have all my information , phone number ,address and such. i know a couple guys here on the boards that live in san antonio that will probably chime in.... lmk dude

WOW, I am in the process of poping popcorn!!! THis is about to be intense. Wait that is the microwave bell.........

Hope the blows dont start

oceancube · « **Reply #26 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:40:07 pm »

okay dude this is really uncool now, i can't even pay my ebay fee's because i have a hold on paypal, they wont let me transfer $22.00 dollars to my ebay account now.... can't belive your doing this to me, im just gonna quit trying to help you now, really uncool, if i knew you were gonna pay for a psp for doing other things to it i would have just sold it to someone else for it being a psp, how in the world am i suppose to know you were gonna use it to play other games and stuff... all this 1.5 2.8 downsizing crazy stuff your pm'ing me about is crazy. but now im gonna let paypal know whats the deal.... and you can keep the $22.00 i have in there now and your psp, i tried to work it out but you pushed it wayyyyyyyyy to far buddy, i will let them know all the pm's you sent me calling me a thieft and you dirty language..... im done arguing here, if anything i will pm you from now on! paypal fued in progress now!!!

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #27 on:** September 05, 2006, 10:51:52 pm »

Snaake, he (oceancube) is still trying to get over on you

I wouldnt take that type of smut if I were you! Let him know you bust caps or sumin!

Or as my name says it, LET HIM KNOW WHATZCRACKN!!!

oceancube · « **Reply #28 on:** September 05, 2006, 11:10:38 pm »

Quote from: whatzcrackn on September 05, 2006, 10:51:52 pm

Snaake, he (oceancube) is still trying to get over on you

I wouldnt take that type of smut if I were you! Let him know you bust caps or sumin!

Or as my name says it, LET HIM KNOW WHATZCRACKN!!!

CHILDISH.......

SNAAKE · « **Reply #29 on:** September 05, 2006, 11:37:57 pm »

from paypal - read the part where it says "Likewise, if the seller is going to send a replacement item, don

NightGod · « **Reply #30 on:** September 05, 2006, 11:39:41 pm »

OC-Just hold the 1.5 PSP and prove to PayPal that you sent him the first one. They'll either force him to send it back or return your money to your account. At this point, I would suggest neither of you do anything until you hear from PayPal.

As an aside, filing the claim and escalating it was a ---smurfy--- thing to do when OC was obviously trying to work with you-you got all impatient and ---smurfy--- and now ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- things up for everyone involved. Oh, and thing about not closing the claim means you need to send the original one back and THEN he sends out the new one.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #31 on:** September 06, 2006, 12:12:38 am »

ok OC, if you wanna cross ship it thats the BEST I can do. if you agree on that,confirm with a PM and make SURE to post a tracking # tomorrow so we know both psps are out. then I will close my deal with paypal.

or just refund my $$$ already.

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #32 on:** September 06, 2006, 02:09:40 am »

Quote from: oceancube on September 05, 2006, 11:10:38 pm

Quote from: whatzcrackn on September 05, 2006, 10:51:52 pm

Snaake, he (oceancube) is still trying to get over on you

I wouldnt take that type of smut if I were you! Let him know you bust caps or sumin!

Or as my name says it, LET HIM KNOW WHATZCRACKN!!!
CHILDISH.......

As is this whole thread, man............

bradster25 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 06, 2006, 02:22:17 am »

Seems this whole thing is childish

would have been dif if he wasnt trying owell
wouldnt want a psp anyway never have lol
have many modded systems but never cared for psp or its battery

dont see things getting fixed with the mud throwing

Zakk · « **Reply #34 on:** September 06, 2006, 02:58:49 am »

Quote from: whatzcrackn on September 05, 2006, 10:51:52 pm

Snaake, he (oceancube) is still trying to get over on you

I wouldnt take that type of smut if I were you! Let him know you bust caps or sumin!

Or as my name says it, LET HIM KNOW WHATZCRACKN!!!

Bust caps or sumin? WTF language are you speaking? Oh right, yer frum da hood! Okay homeboy!

Snaaake, just mellow. I'm not joking at all. Settle the freak out yo.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #35 on:** September 06, 2006, 03:33:52 am »

I need to post his PM here for everyone to read. the level of stupidity is UNMATCHED !

Quote from: oceancube on September 06, 2006, 01:13:47 am

if i would've known you were gonna mod it and such i would have never sold it to you, cause there would be a chance of messing up a new in great working condition psp......

ok W T F ?? when did I say I was gonna "MOD IT AND SUCH" ?? I never said anything about modding or ANYTHING of that nature.

Quote from: oceancube on September 06, 2006, 01:13:47 am

you didn't even mention 1.5 in pm's or emails, so im not at fault there, i answered that other girl on my topic, all i know is that i thought all psp's were the same

someone asked what version psp on your thread and you said 1.5 and then you send me a 2.6 psp and its NOT your fault ?? EXACTLY HOW ??

why do I have you ask you via PM or email about what version when someone already asked the same question and you said "1.5 thanks"

Quote from: oceancube on September 06, 2006, 01:13:47 am

all i know is that i thought all psp's were the same

AGAIN, thats your fault too. you are the seller so you are the one to check what version and post that on your thread.

look what he wrote to paypal. amazing...just amazing..I am speechless...

"dear paypal, sold a working sony psp handheld system on byoab.com to a member which is the one im filing with, well, i sent out psp via usps priority mail, so he recived items and then emails me telling me that he wont be able to mod that sony psp, so asks for a refund, i told him i could not refund him the money unless the sony psp was broken which it wasen't, he complained about not being able to play emulated games and using pirated games on it, i never mentioned to him anything about using it for that purpose but only to be able to play it like it's meant to play with umd movies and umd psp games,not pirated games which is illeagle. i told him noway he had the right to ask for a refund for that purpose,now im stuck with this and he's been pm'ing me and threating me that "I WILL GIVE HIM A REFUND" so i really dont know what to say about it, therefore i leave it to you guys to do your job!!THANKS AGAIN PAYPAL.... ANGELA M. RAMOS"

what does the function of different version psps has anything to do with the transction ?? Amazing how you dont mention anything about sending out the WRONG VERSION PSP. Basically what you did was false advertized your item, refuse to give me a refund, now you are playing dumb and writing BS stories to paypal.

also, the ear piece only has the left side and you didnt mention anything about that on your original thread. See why I cant trust you with this. You sent a broken earbud that only has 1 side and its gonna cost me EVEN more money to buy a new one. WHO PAYS FOR THE NEW EAR PIECE ??

I guess we'll have to go with the 3rd party thing, I will send out the 2.6 psp to a trusted 3rd party and cost of shipping to send it to oceancube and you do the same. fair enough ?? any taker on the trusted 3rd party ?

NightGod · « **Reply #36 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:22:55 am »

I'll do the third party for ya-have over 200 feedback on Ebay and ship stuff out basically every day. PM me for an address if you are interested.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #37 on:** September 06, 2006, 05:30:01 am »

how about divemaster be the trusted 3rd party ? he is well known around for his parts !

Quote from: divemaster127 on September 05, 2006, 04:16:30 pm

interested ?

whatzcrackn · « **Reply #38 on:** September 06, 2006, 08:54:27 am »

Quote from: Zakk on September 06, 2006, 02:58:49 am

Quote from: whatzcrackn on September 05, 2006, 10:51:52 pm

Snaake, he (oceancube) is still trying to get over on you

I wouldnt take that type of smut if I were you! Let him know you bust caps or sumin!

Or as my name says it, LET HIM KNOW WHATZCRACKN!!!

Bust caps or sumin? WTF language are you speaking? Oh right, yer frum da hood! Okay homeboy!

I'm srorry you are?

Oh...... I know Hercules, Hercules, Hercules, Hercules, Hercules

oceancube · « **Reply #39 on:** September 06, 2006, 09:00:53 am »

Quote from: SNAAKE on September 06, 2006, 05:30:01 am

how about divemaster be the trusted 3rd party ? he is well known around for his parts !

Quote from: divemaster127 on September 05, 2006, 04:16:30 pm

interested ?

snake just relax already and lets wait and see what paypal says about this, you disputed it now im gonna let them decide, i tried 3 days with you, and nothing, even after all the stuff you said and such, i wish you would have agreed the first day , you would have the othere psp by friday or saturday but no you took matters elsewhere, now your gonna have to deal with it and see what paypal says! pls dont bust caps or sumin whatzcracken!!!!!


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