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Act-Lab's TV gun to support 2 players?
u_rebelscum:
--- Quote from: anthony691 on March 04, 2003, 09:42:02 pm ---The USB PC Light Gun will *NOT* be able to be made 2 player. The hardware isn't really capable of it. (there have been a few decent results w/ analoge MAME) Besides that, don' t expect them to realease a "driver update" that could fix the problem. I know it isn't a good situation! And Brax you gave a acuurate description of the Light Gun GS (now discontinued) I am gonna buy Lik Sangs gun instead of the TV USB Light gun I think...
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Any idea on how the TV gun is going to do 2 players?
Also, I don't see any hardware problems with two PC monitor lightguns. Almost all problems are on the OS & software end.
All explanations I've read (can't serial because second one will block first one's flash, both share same memory location, serialing them messes up the timing) is either false, due to software, or will happen after a lot of use (quicker break down). Of course, I just got my second lightgun, so that last one is the biggest possibility.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: anthony691 on March 04, 2003, 10:49:12 pm ---Note that I am not sure, but I am stuck between his Virtual and Bio guns; right now I am flat broke from my new cab.
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I don't want to go into details, but the bio guns and the other guns at liksang and crappy repackaging of older guns that never quite worked right (similar to act labs first generation of gameport guns). The safe money would be to stay with the act-labs guns, which do in fact work well, contrary to your belief.
anthony691:
Contrary to MY BELIEF??? You probably should have read a few more of my posts (or checked out my site www.lightgun.tk) And you would then relize I am an Act-Labs associate, and would CERTAINLY NOT endorse a product I don't like! Thank you for warning me about the Lik-Sang guns. Just don't be so presumptous. And if anyone was wondering I don't think that their Associate Program is worth while.
Dr. J:
I have to call BS when I see it.
FIRST: If you are even considering getting a pc virtual light gun then you haven't read a single post at this board regarding light guns before. Everyone who owns one has said they're junk. Mine is sitting in the closet collecting dust, and not after trying to get it to work.
SECOND: As U_rebelscum stated, it doesn't matter if you're shooting a tv screen or a computer screen. It's not a hardware issue. I can play with two USB lightguns on my computer screen. The problem is OS and software. Currently the two guns fight over the same cursor, so if both are fired at the same time, it will only recognize one of the guns. I've tested this myself. I suggest you give it a try and see for yourself. So why doesn't this work with analogmame+? If you'd read older posts here you'd know. u_rebelscum did it with dx and AL didn't. That's what U_rebel's working on now.
THIRD: The older AL guns weren't meant to be run in mame, and were crap. I have those in my closet collecting dust as well. In fact, if someone's willing to pay shipping and handling I'll send them my PC virtual light gun, AND my actlabs GS guns. However, the new usb guns work very well in mame currently. There just isn't 2 player support yet. I completed a game of virtual cop using the AL guns without problem, and I consider that a pretty challenging test to the guns accuracy.
--- Quote from: anthony691 on March 04, 2003, 04:17:43 pm ---One other thing, if you are going to buy a Light Gun if you buy it from he link at my site I get a kickback from Act-Labs and it would be GREATLY apreciated. Thanks a lot.
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FOURTH: If they're not even announcing it at their official site, then I'm not necessarily going to believe this from someone who could make whatever statement they want to get "kickbacks."
FIFTH: I hope they do get two player support, but as it stands right now, it will happen because of a software change. Even the new guns plug in with the usb cable. The only difference is the monitor/tv pass thru, and as I've already stated, that's not the problem.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: anthony691 on March 04, 2003, 11:15:27 pm ---Contrary to MY BELIEF??? You probably should have read a few more of my posts (or checked out my site www.lightgun.tk) And you would then relize I am an Act-Labs associate, and would CERTAINLY NOT endorse a product I don't like! Thank you for warning me about the Lik-Sang guns. Just don't be so presumptous. And if anyone was wondering I don't think that their Associate Program is worth while.
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Sorry about that but see it from my perspective:
So your telling me you will "support" a product if they give you money for re-directed sales and yet when it comes time for you to buy a gun you won't buy it from them?? How sleazy, dirty and under handed is that?
I would suggest you only put endorsments to products you've actually used on your site. It would be much more honest of you.
Btw everybody and their momma is an act-labs associate. I was asked to put a act-labs banner on the lazarus site for commission but couldn't do it in good conscience as I hadn't bought one yet. (waiting for the tv version, which I have on pre-order) My point is, being an "associate" doesn't mean anything.
I legitimately support act-labs as I've owned many of the guns from the competiton and seen the superior act-labs guns in action first hand.