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Super Ultra-Mega Massive 49-way Review online at Retroblast!
Xiaou2:
"Then why comment?"
I do not have the right to comment? Come on.
And... my comments were not really agressive twords the product. They are more agressive on the quality of the 'Reviewer'.
"IMO the review was based on one person's experience with the product(s) and was written to share that experience. Anyone can easily say yea or nay to a product or idea. But until that person actually uses that product, any idea or statement of fact about how it works is frankly idiotic."
Actually its not. Im an avid game player from age 6 till 31. Grew up on the classics. Have managed an arcade and fixed them. Have collected them as well.
My opinions are based on mechanical knowledge, and experiences. And experiences with how these games play and work. I also OWN most of the various controller types. I think Im much more qualified to give an opinion on this that matter more than someone who has not a clue about many of the classics, can not play them well anyway, and dosnt know both the hardware side of it as well as the mechnical side of it. Just looking at the device, I can see things that most people would not see in it. I can see why certain parts of it are beneficial and where they would help.. as well as see why certain parts of it are detremental... all by looking at the very construction of the joystick itself.
"Did the ensuing discussion add value?"
This is what I mean. The kid played a few 'recent' games. So his weight is twords the game types and even controller types that he is familiar with. If those work out well.. then his opinions are really worthless twords the classics which he has no clue about. And, worthless about feeling and control... cause he has not been able to compare them to original equipment.
Whos review would you want to read if you were considering a sportscar that just came out? Some average joe that happend to drive a corvette once in his life? Or an avid motorgeek that has driven hundreads of supercars, raced them, built them, fixes them...ect? The average joe isnt going to be able to tell you squat.. and his opinions may be also be seriously flawed. This could lead to people buying these devices and feeling quite upset at the results.
The Discussion here, is exactly what you said I shouldnt comment on... is about what is wrong with the review. Not about the product. Thats personal opinion, but also from a very qualified source.
"But to pipe in when you obviously have a personal conflict with someone"
Ive added thiis because of the uglyliness of the thread as i see a battle in progress with retroblast and randy. The statement was more or less a shot at randy to take a chill pill. Not to be personally offended when someone dosnt agree with his opinions.. and to really look at how his actions makes him look.
"I would say follow your own advice Xaiou2. If you havent experienced these products first hand, how can you judge them? "
Ive already stated above why I can. But I am willing to accept they may have some good to them. However, I would not accept that untill I read a Real review... from a qualified unbiased reviewer.
I probably should have spoke up when Retroblast was asking for a reviewer. Just my time has been limited.
Timoe:
Ughhhh ^ ::)
PoDunkMoFo:
This one time at church camp :angel:
Tommy Boy:
--- Quote ---Otherwise, you get this crap
from people that have no real clue.
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::)
Xiaou2, I post very rarely but have been lurking around here for close to five years. It's been my experience that personal comments like the quote from you above are certainly not a rarity in your posts. And yet you have the nerve to point a finger at RandyT and accuse him of personal attacks. ??? ::)
Dude, read your first post again. I don't think KenToad deserves that crap for just trying to add something to this community. If you don't like his contribution then be constructive in your criticism. Don't just dismiss it as "crap". You haven't even used the product in question.
And another thing: Your opinion is just as valid as everyone elses. In other words, some of us enjoy our MAME time for reasons other than trying to set a world record high score. I'm into this hobby as a distraction, a way to relax and tie into some good memories from my youth.
So I'm willing to make a compromise on my controls. They don't need to be exact replicas and, for practical reasons, I would really love to find a one-stick-does-it-all soution. For that reason I've been waiting for the review that KenToad authored and, I for one, enjoyed it! Others have also.
I appreciate your experiences and love of this hobby. But please don't presume to speak for me, especially when you're being rude.
Thanks.
Kremmit:
--- Quote from: V_x_V on July 01, 2005, 07:08:45 am ---
There was no mention of the 16 way mode. Did you find any use for it? I know it was originally intended for 720 but didn't work. Does that mean we will never get to play this great game with the 49-ways?
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--- Quote from: KenToad on July 01, 2005, 02:21:25 pm ---As far as playability of certain games, I still would rather reach some sort of consensus here on the forum. I can say over and over again that I like the performance of all of the modes except 16-way, which I haven't really found a use for yet, but I don't think that will satisfy anyone.
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While we're dredging up the 16-way thing again, it's my fault. I asked RandyT for it back when he was still finishing development on the GP49, and testing with a Williams 49-way I sent him. I thought that since the skater in 720 moves in 16 directions, a 16-way mode would work well for that game. Randy was able to implement the mode without much trouble, and was kind enough to include it- Thanks, Randy! He stated at the time that it might work, and might not- he was just tossing it in as a freebie.
Well, have a look here- here's the results of my testing with 16-way mode and 720.
See this topic. 720 works pretty darn well with a 49-way and a GP-Wiz 49 in "raw" analog mode, better than it does with the 16-way mode. I used a modified Williams 49-way, which is a different stick than the Happ/Midway ones used in KenToad's reviews. However, other members have posted that they have played the game with their Happ/Midway, and found it to be playable- it just won't feel as much like a real 720 stick with the Happ/Midway.
There may still be some use for 16-way, though.
--- Quote from: Kremmit on April 04, 2005, 04:53:19 pm ---You know, 16 way DRS may still prove useful. I just remembered somebody was asking about Intellivision controllers a while back, and mentioned they had 16 directions. Anybody know if Intellivision emulators handle 16 directions from an analog joystick?
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Never seen where anybody's investigated this, though.
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