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Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« on: April 10, 2005, 02:41:36 am »
I went to an arcade tonight for the first time in a while...and not some cheap mall arcade...a real big glowing dedicated arcade...WOW! ITs been a while but it all came back. The first time I walked in itwas all dark and the machines were so loud...the beautiful sound of all the different machines playin... There were so many cool new machines...a Madden football game... Need for speed underground...Outrun 2(an awesome driving cab with a huge monitor), and the games still outdid most systems. A system cannot beat an arcade period. Its so sad that they are all going bankrupt!
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2005, 03:03:25 am »
Those madden machines are nice, i havent seen the NFS yet though, im going to check out an arcade tomarrow hopeing to get a game.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2005, 06:19:24 am »
I wish I could still visit the arcades, but the last one near me closed down last year. :(


...Adds to argument of home-based arcade machines. ;)

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2005, 07:18:48 am »
Interesting experience. The last time I went to an arcade I was disgusted in the direction the entertainment had taken.

The machines had no character, nothing but fibreglass and plastic. At a glance there also seemed to be little variation between the type of games either.

I don't know what I expected, but not that.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2005, 11:16:29 am »
Yeah, no arcades by me either.  Anytime I get sentimental I fire up 'Arcade84' and watch that about 20 times!

Right - new arcades nowadays are not the same, but I guess getting old has a lot to do with that!  I want to see Pac-Man, Omega Race and Robotron if/when I go to an arcade.  Or maybe fashion has something to do with it too - back in the day we'd wear our suede Puma's or shell toe addidas with the fat colored laces & the girls had neon bracelets with big hair and concert shirts!  That added to the entertainment value.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2005, 11:30:26 am »
There's a really great arcade about 15 minutes from my house. This place is huge. They've also got laser tag, mini-golf, billairds, bumper cards, and a small food court that sells stuff like burgers, hot dogs, popcorn, and pizza. The actual arcade is great, but I haven't been there in a long time. Last time I considered going was around the time that F-Zero AX was making it's run in the arcades, so that was quite a while ago! Now that the weather's nice and the floors won't be so muddy though, I think I might go again. It's a really cool place.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2005, 11:45:56 am »
We have no real arcades here..........

just one crappy mall one with 10 games

and the weakest Chuck E Cheese I've ever been in........


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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2005, 12:02:55 pm »
There's a really great arcade about 15 minutes from my house. This place is huge. They've also got laser tag, mini-golf, billairds, bumper cards, and a small food court that sells stuff like burgers, hot dogs, popcorn, and pizza. The actual arcade is great, but I haven't been there in a long time. Last time I considered going was around the time that F-Zero AX was making it's run in the arcades, so that was quite a while ago! Now that the weather's nice and the floors won't be so muddy though, I think I might go again. It's a really cool place.


That sounds like the Family Fun Center in Omaha. It has alot of "older" games on the second level that always seem to have someone on them whenever I'm there. They must still be making a little $$ or they would yank them out. I have to give the owners credit for trying new things to keep the business open. They have an area with about 12 PC's in it for the online junkies as well. Pretty cool. Tho I wish they would yank those damn "claw/crank" machines with the cheap toys in them. They are a total rip-off. I try to discourage my boys from playing them. I can't see myself liking them if they were around when I was that age....
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2005, 12:38:13 pm »
Theres an arcade here too.  The tokens are pretty expensive because it takes 3+ to play a game.  Any type of golf takes 1 coin/hole, so theres 18!  Also, they have NO classic games.  It's all about getting tickets at this one.  They have machines that you shoot your token into and try to win more tokens.  I wasnt impressed but I still go there.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2005, 12:41:50 pm »
Heres a rundown of the arcade I was at...
 Right when you walk in facing you there was a dual sitdown, need for speed underground. There was then an isle to the left with these games...Dungeons and Dragons, Trog, NBA Hangtime, Metal Slug, and WWF Wrestlemania, on the other side of the isle there were 2 poker machines, these 2 pinball baseball arcade machines, and I think some kinda cocktail table. There was then an isle to the right that had these games on Big screen TV's...Street Fighter Alpha 3, Virtua Cop 2, Capcom vs. SNK 2. Then further down that isle we had some more normal arcade machines.. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Tekken 4, Tekken Tag Tournament, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Killer Instinct, X Men children of the atom (there used to be a MOONWALKER in this isle, but of coursee...its gone now). There was then a little pit beyond three stairs that had alot of basketball shooting games and driving games. They had a dual Outrun 2, Dual Cruisin World, A Crazy Taxi, and some OffRoad Machines. In the back they had some dance dance Revolution Machines, a MAdden NFL Machine. This 3 monitor game, I think it was called Grid Iron, a 33 inch NFL BLitz 2000 Gold, a Crisis Zone, I then think there were some more big screen shooting games. There was also and Austin Powers Games...some colorama games, and those games where you try to stop the light to win the prize. Thats all I can rememeber, I may be missing some, but it was awesome having some of those older 90s games in there with the new ones. It was Great. I love the loud sound of all the different machines blending together. Just wanted to share my expereience.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2005, 01:56:34 pm »
Its amazing my arcade from my youth is still in business.It has changed owners a bunch of times and now is owned by a guy who used to pretty much service the whole county with machines in pizza places 7-eleven ect.The name hasnt changed its still called Starbase 1 but it has gone downhill.Went in there a few months ago and it made me sad the machines looked beat up and pretty much in poor condition.They did have some nice older machines like Robotron and a Ms Pacman and a R-type machine and a few pinball machines too.Other than that it was your standard driving and fighting games.It was over probably 15 years since I last walked in there and it was pretty nostalgic just shoving a dollar into the change machine.Then after a few games that passed and I realized that although nostalgic the fun of the arcade was gone and I would rather be in my home on my pc or a console rather in this dark shadey run down place from my youth.

There is also a arcade in the mall but it hardly even grabs my attention a bunch of fighting and driving games a few foosball games and a galaga machine.Besides galaga i would never even enter the place.

I miss the good old days when you would go to your local arcade and bang they would have a new game with a crowd around it and everyones got there quarters up on the marquee fighting over whos next:)That was fun....

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2005, 02:27:12 pm »
Did any of the games still have coin slots?  Or are they all 'paper money' equipped now?  Or, perhaps a VISA card slot?

I miss the old days... when a game cost .25 cents.

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2005, 03:04:56 pm »
Most were 50 cents but all the old games were all a quarter...

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2005, 04:25:53 pm »
The arcade close to my house uses magnetic cards... Which, although it ruins the feel of putting in a coin, is probably one of the best moves an arcade could make... Of course, as one of the few arcades that actually still makes money, it's all the same familiar routine there... There's a poor "cinema" in there... Mini golf, go-karts, and pizza... And of course the only games that aren't shooters, fighters, redemption, or racers, are a Pac - Ms. Pac, some Maddens, and a few "Motion simulators"... At least they have a few pinballs, which is usually what i most look forward to when i go there... Although i must admit, all of those high tech, motion simulation, force feedback, projection screen, 1.50$ racers, although aren't quite like the old arcades, are so d*mn fun!
I guess it's sad, but at least some arcades still make money...
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2005, 05:56:42 pm »
Sadly, the best arcade we have around here is our skating rink. It has Smash TV, 720, TMNT among others. The downfall is that the games are so limited, there are only about 20 of them at the most. Oh yeah, I forgot that they have Revolution X too.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2005, 06:14:50 pm »
University of Ottawa has a decent arcade, but mostly fighters.

I used to play a game of xvsf in the cafeteria before certain classes. It was great, the sticks were broken, on an angle. The buttons holes were drilled by a drunk with no template, but it's only 25 cents.

Sad part is, I build my own controls, and enjoyed playing on these busted ass parts. Everytime I think of arcades, I think of broken controls.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2005, 08:21:12 pm »
Just out of curiosity, any of you guys have a Dave & Busters near you or a Gillians? Dave and Busters is pretty popular where I am (DC area) It's absolutely huge. It has a restaurant, billiards, indoor full swing golf, and one heckuva arcade. All the big new games are in there that I can tell. You buy a card and credits then swipe away 'til you hearts content. I agree it takes away a little not putting in coins but, I've come to terms with the fact that my days in the Ocean City boardwalk arcades are gone, never to return. D&B is a chain, just interesting that it hasn't been mentioned yet.

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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2005, 09:21:58 pm »
Last time I was at my old stompin ground, the Jersey shore :laugh: (Point Pleasant Boardwalk, and Seaside Heights) the arcades were still in full swing.

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2005, 09:29:03 pm »
A few years ago, the company that my dad worked for was merging his branch with the HQ in Pittsburgh (Westinghouse/ABB). They offered to fly all of the employees and their families out to pittsburgh so that they could decide if they wanted to move there and keep their jobs. We couldn't pass up a free trip, so we went. And while we were there I got to go to a Dave and Buster's with one of the other families. We didn't make a reservation, and it was so busy that we ended up eating somewhere else. But after supper, we went back to D&B's play games at the arcade. It was a magical expirience. It was comparable to the first time I went to Disney World and Universal Studios. That place had so many awesome games and I had a card with $10 worth of credits on it. It was one of the most fun times that I can remember having out of state.

My dad eventually decided to find a different job, and we stayed in Connecticut. He got a much better one that only made us move about and hour and a half away from where we were. There's a D&B's in new york state too, and it'd be about 45 minutes away, but I haven't ever gone there. However I will still keep a warm place in my memory for the time I went to Dave and Buster's... :)

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2005, 09:35:20 pm »
My brother used to work there as a waiter when he was in college. Even with an inside "connection" I don't think I ever had less than an hour wait for a table. I don't even go there for the food anymore. There's  a P.F. Chang's in the same area. I eat there then hit D&B for games and beer. Makes me spend money like I was 13 again. Luckily my mom doesn't get on me too much for spending all of my allowance in two hours anymore.

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2005, 10:12:07 pm »
Last time I was at my old stompin ground, the Jersey shore :laugh: (Point Pleasant Boardwalk, and Seaside Heights) the arcades were still in full swing.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2005, 11:34:33 pm »
I think that the biggest knock against arcades is that they don't get enough exposure and there are very few chains.  Although I do love mom & pop owned arcades, if there were chains then the "franchise" arcades would likely reach areas that don't have an arcade.

The other big thing is that arcades don't advertise. Arcades used to be to videogames what cinemas were to movies, but not any more. And what do theatrical movies have that has helped keep them in the public's mind? Advertising. Why is it that when an arcade gets an anticipated new title, the only way to find out is by going there or through word of mouth? Imagine opening up the newspaper and seeing an ad saying "Tekken 5: Play it at Starcade!" followed by the location of the arcade. Or, they could do commercials on TV. Game commercials are quite common, but when was the last time you saw one for an arcade game? They manufacturer could send out a 25 second commercial to the arcade owners, and they could then tack on the remaining 5 seconds to tell people the name of their arcade and the location.

Things like this are what the industry needs to make a comeback. Also, people need to BUILD arcades and keep them updated. Perhaps the changable software arcade machine concept used in most home arcades could be applied to arcades. The arcade owner could change the disc inside the arcade machine when it becomes unpopular, and simply swap the marquee with one for the new game and possibly a control panel overlay change. This way they don't have to risk alot of money on a new, unproven game and if a game becomes unpopular they don't have to worry about figuring out what to do with that huge expensive machine. Just put a more popular game inside, and you're all set.

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2005, 11:55:01 pm »
Arcades used to be to videogames what cinemas were to movies, but not any more. And what do theatrical movies have that has helped keep them in the public's mind? Advertising.

Why is it that when an arcade gets an anticipated new title, the only way to find out is by going there or through word of mouth? Imagine opening up the newspaper and seeing an ad saying "Tekken 5: Play it at Starcade!" followed by the location of the arcade. Or, they could do commercials on TV.

Do you have any idea the amount of money that is spent on P&A for a feature film?  Millions of dollars.  That ain't gonna' happen for an arcade.  People aren't skipping the arcade because of a lack of advertising.  They're skipping the arcade because they either play video games at home on a computer, at home on a console or not at all.  They're skipping the arcade because they have better use of their time and/or don't want to hang out in a teen-infested storefront with few games they want to play.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2005, 01:23:53 am »
But, keep in mind that with feature films, the entire advertising campaign is handled by the movie distributor, not the theaters themselves. I'm not saying that ads in the newspaper should be as common as movie advertisements, but they should still be there. In a newespaper you'll often see advertisements for restaruants and such. So why can't arcades just put out ads? Also, this ties into my idea that there should be more arcade chains. A chain would be much more capable of putting out an ad in print or on TV, because they'd be reaching much larger audience because they'd be able to list many arcades in alot of different areas at the end of the commercial or in the ad, rather than just one. Advertising is not something that a mom and pop arcade would be able to do. It would have to be done by an arcade chain that has arcades all over the state. And what better way to draw people in than to tell them what hot new games they have in their advertisements?

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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2005, 04:36:50 am »
You are also forgetting a massive strike against the arcades.

They aren't coming out with a lot of games anymore. The number of new arcade games last year was miniscule (like less than 10 new games, and software updates for another 10), and this year will be worse.

It is really all just grinding to a halt.

I just browsed Shaffer Distributing's website to see what was actually available right now in the way of new games. 23 non-Megatouch titles are currently available, and MOST of those came out in 2002 and 2003 (and some are even older than that).

Out of all those games, only ONE of them used a joystick, the Namco reunion machine (which I shouldn't have even counted, since I didn't count any of the other rerelease machinesO., the rest were driving, gun, complex simulator, or were titles for the Vortek V3 virtual reality cabinet (the Beachhead cabinet).

I also checked BMI's listings, slightly better, they have 27 titles available (not couting assorted classic era rereleases). The majority of them are just this years version of last years game. Only 2 of the games use joysticks (Madden and Tekken 5). Also, Tekken 5 is priced at a rediculous $6875, pretty pricey for a game that will have to be replaced in a year, better hope that sucker racks up 28,000 plays in one year, allowing the operator to at least break even (after the location split, but before maintenance, repairs, or labor), before he has to spend $1500 to upgrade the machine to Tekken 6.

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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2005, 04:58:16 am »
With arcade machine prices like that no wonder arcades are going out of business.

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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2005, 05:06:30 am »
Perhaps the whole industry will fall in a big heap and then the buzz of the 80's can be reborn in the form of games that plug right into your brain. You blow something up and you smell gunpowder, or experience real adrenalin or pain or something.....





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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2005, 05:07:58 am »
Also, Tekken 5 is priced at a rediculous $6875, pretty pricey for a game that will have to be replaced in a year, better hope that sucker racks up 28,000 plays in one year, allowing the operator to at least break even

That works out to over 3 plays an hour, every single hour of the day, every single day of the year!  Insanity!

I went to a local bowling alley for my kid's friend's birthday party on the weekend.  I was pleasantly greeted by a 3-in-1 Galaga, Space Invaders and Ms PacMan machine!  Happy days!

As usual there was a Daytona twin in the corner with a million kids hanging off it.  Myself and one of the other dads proceeded to spend the entire afternoon battling for Galaga high-score.  Ahhh... the memories!

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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2005, 10:26:45 am »
Maybe it's time for one of the hobby-ist cabinet makers to pair up with a game designer, and....  ::)

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Maybe it's time for one of the hobby-ist cabinet makers to pair up with a game designer, and....
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2005, 12:01:31 pm »
I just got back from a "business" trip to Vegas Sunday. I was staying at the Luxor hotel, and they have an Awesome arcade there. 2 levels, about 300+ machines, pinball, skeeball, all the old classics, plus plenty on newer gun games, driving games, etc. I played Galaga on a single quarter for about 1 - 1/2 hours and set the high score. (A quarter was about all I could afford after going to the craps table.)

It's good to see the amusement industry is still alive and well in Vegas.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2005, 12:13:05 pm »
Me and a few people are starting an arcade. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,34957.0.html
And we have been actually looking into the making our own arcade titles. Something that will never hit consoles only available at the arcades. I think it may help resurect the arcades. The problem is consoles...and laziness. So if you make a killer game and only release it at the arcades then poof. they have to get off theyre butts and come to the arcade.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2005, 12:13:36 pm »
I was being semi-serious. It's an idea I'd like to pursue, but realistically it does not make business sense. There is too much overhead, distribution hurdles, low profit margin, and post-sale customer service, compared to just selling the same game online as a download.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2005, 12:24:41 pm »
I was being semi-serious. It's an idea I'd like to pursue, but realistically it does not make business sense. There is too much overhead, distribution hurdles, low profit margin, and post-sale customer service, compared to just selling the same game online as a download.

...?...

I dunno, i think if one of the guys here that sales cabs and such would team up with a few game designers this is more then feasible and can even make some good money! Look how much people charge for mame cabs, then look at how much games cost at BMI! Even for the home users, this kind of things could make money! I'm not saying anyone should quit his day job for this, but this is feasible, even though some sacrifice has to be made at start...
I am sure if someone (RandyT, Andy, GameCab, you know who i'm talking about) would organize something like this and get the ball rolling, we could do something here!
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2005, 02:34:58 pm »
My brother makes games for a hobby, and he actually is talking about making an arcade game. It would be a side-scolling shooter with 2 player co-op and bosses so big that they fill up 2/3 of the screen. It would be 100% compatable with Mame cabinets. You'd even press the 5 key to insert coins, and 1 would be the start button, so you could play it just like a Mame ROM. It sounds awesome, I can't wait till he starts on it.

He's currently working on another game called "Chaos Gate". You may have heard of it, I don't know. It's looking pretty cool as well. If I tried to describe it though it'd probably take several pages since it combines so many genres.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2005, 02:43:05 pm »
My brother makes games for a hobby, and he actually is talking about making an arcade game. It would be a side-scolling shooter with 2 player co-op and bosses so big that they fill up 2/3 of the screen. It would be 100% compatable with Mame cabinets. You'd even press the 5 key to insert coins, and 1 would be the start button, so you could play it just like a Mame ROM. It sounds awesome, I can't wait till he starts on it.

He's currently working on another game called "Chaos Gate". You may have heard of it, I don't know. It's looking pretty cool as well. If I tried to describe it though it'd probably take several pages since it combines so many genres.

I was envisioning a side scroller with the American flag as the sideart and red and blue joysticks and buttons, with white stars on the bezel, and a marquee saying "Real American Guns" or something...
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2005, 09:46:54 pm »
.....The majority of them are just this years version of last years game.....

Kinda lends credence to the talk I've heard about no innovation when it comes to producing new games. This above problem is not only in the arcades but in the console world also.

I understand that if a game made a killing, a sequel is probably the smart thing to do but come on some of these games are "squealed" to death.

I do know however that there are a lot of the "little guys" out there that have some FANTASTIC games, developed without a multimillion dollar budget. Imagine some of these as "new" arcade cabs. And wouldn't there be a market for them? Seems to me that the 18-40 yr old males who play games would like this stuff. And frankly, in my area at least, there seems to be an increase in the arcade game platform. I'm seeing new & old machines popping up all over. Maybe I'm paying more attention or maybe I'm just prejudiced or maybe......the want is there. Retro is in ya know ;)

And I just had another thought. Do any of you think that games have plateaued? I mean really whats the next big step gonna be? Actual 3D? Or some kind of Star Trek Holodeck? Has hardware peaked for the time being?
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2005, 04:37:53 pm »
The next big step is physics, though I don't think we'll see that revolution so much in the next gen consoles as we will in the generation AFTER that. Chip designers are right now designing what they call PPUs (Physics Processing Units). So now, asides from the CPU, and GPU (Graphics Processing Unit--which gave us a 3D revolution) we will see more and more realistic physical simulation to go with the realistic graphics. (While one can argue that we already have physics in games, the fact is only the best developers are "doing it right". San Andreas has great car physics, while Mercenaries, a very similar type of game, just doesn't quite cut it. Once the complicated parts of physics simulation becomes part of the hardware, that will free up developers to concentrate a little more on how to use it, rather than how to program it.)

Online persistent worlds will continue to be expanded on and will move more and more into mainstream subject matter. More and more "realistic" double-life type of worlds. (Simulations)

The idea of "instant-on" interaction with others will move forward (ie: wireless handhelds. The idea that you can turn on your Nintendo DS-2 and instantly find people to challenge without needing to set up anything, or worry about lag).

Personal avatars will become a big thing (5 to 20 years from now?). Imagine that instead of a stupid GIF on this message board, you instead had a unique character, with abilities, experience and equipment. And imagine that this avatar "follows" you wherever you interact (ie: same avatar on different message boards. Links to your avatar in chats, and while browsing the web...). The idea here is taking the experience outside of specific worlds, and into one's everyday interactions. It would be really cool if a variety of environments by a variety of authors opened up, all compatible with these "universal" avatars.


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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2005, 05:49:08 pm »
He's currently working on another game called "Chaos Gate". You may have heard of it, I don't know. It's looking pretty cool as well. If I tried to describe it though it'd probably take several pages since it combines so many genres.

Does he have a site set up too which we can take a look at it? This isn't Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate is it??
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2005, 05:54:32 pm »
He's currently working on another game called "Chaos Gate". You may have heard of it, I don't know. It's looking pretty cool as well. If I tried to describe it though it'd probably take several pages since it combines so many genres.

Does he have a site set up too which we can take a look at it? This isn't Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate is it??

EDIT: Nope... Ignore this...

Not sure, but i think i might have just found it...
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2005, 08:00:34 pm »


Kinda lends credence to the talk I've heard about no innovation when it comes to producing new games. This above problem is not only in the arcades but in the console world also.


The lack of creativity is killing the PC platform (or has already killed, according to some) as well. Crappy PC games from floor to rafters at any local software depot. It sucks. I used to follow the PC game scene with a religious vigor, now I have a hard time leafing through a PC game mag without feeling disgusted afterwards.

I know this topic has come up a billion times on a billion different forums, but it always worth noting. I mean, what do we have for new games (non- homebrew) coming from the remaining software houses? Me too MMORPGs, FPSes with well armed characters running around shooting each other or sneaking somewhere, RTSes that have very little difference from last year's RTSes...

Even software pioneers and creative icons like Sid Meier is dripping me tooisms from his sphinchter nowadays.

...and in other news, Microprose is still dead.

Lucas Arts, the one software house that had some of the most creative titles known to man (from Ballblazer to Grim Fandango) now make games that aren't even worth scraping from your shoe if you accidentally step in one.

The sorry thing is that people buy the latest craporama and that's why they keep making it. Painkiller, ballyhoed by game magazines everywhere, had nothing new to speak of and the multiplayer is terrible. Same game, new ways to kill people. Snoresville: Population- Me.

Rome: Total War. Wow, pretty. Loved the creative, pioneering first two of the series. Rome went down like a beer opened for two days and left on the radiator. Prepare for the expansion pack.

KOTOR II... More bugs than a certain scene in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and a storyline that can be described as a really, really long joke with the lamest punchline in the world. I had to run six fans 24 hours a day for two weeks in order to destink my home from that lousy ending. Pee-yew.

What do you get when you wrap a classic title in reams of soiled toilet paper and sell it? Master of Orion 3, that's what. It's so bad, it's used to exercise demons from the posessed.

But I go on.

Whether it's arcade games, console titles or PC software, I think what we have now is what we are going to get. Sure, somewhere down the like someone will create something new which will be fun or groundbreaking (like The Sims or Grand Theft Auto 3), but in its wake will be a dozen titles just like it filling up the shelves of Best Buys everywhere.

I used to hate it when people would pronounce PC games dead (usually related to console / PC discussion) but all three platforms are seriously mired in garbage. So, as a consumer, I must sit and wait for the next great thing with my fingers, toes and arms crossed in expectation.

Good luck to us all.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2005, 12:36:43 am »
Oldsage, I told my brother about your idea for "Real American Guns" yesterday, and he really liked the idea. He says he'll probably call the game "Real American Gunslingers", and now he's talking about introducing elements from Metal Slug and Contra as well. He also drew up some very cool sketches for characters for the game. I shouldn't give away too much, but rest assured, it will definately be a cab-worthy game when it's done. ;D

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2005, 03:42:06 am »
Luckily I've got a classic arcade somewhat near my house called the Reagan Years in Fullerton, CA.  It's all classics and 90% are only 1 token(25 cents)...Many games are in poor condition, but a partial list of games is as follows:
Burgertime
Track and Field
Berzerk
Scramble
Heavy Barrel
Gorf
Galaga
Ms. Pacman
Tron
Moon Patrol
Defender
Spy Hunter
Rampage
Star Wars
Pole Position
Super Pac
and many more including some modern games in the rear

This place is attached to a restaurant that's being renovated, and word has it that the members of the band Lit are co-owners of this place...Maybe they'll use their money to actually fix this place up.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2005, 04:26:54 am »
For me personally...

I'm tired of the console scene for the most part.  Games that require strategy guides to play (much less complete) the game....  games that require internet connection, high price accessories and subscript fees.....  more than the average person (much less kids, who alot of these are geared for) can pay unless they have 3 jobs....  Gimme the Atari 2600 days again...

Also...  PC games...  same as above... but buggy and requires patching to actually run...  and THEN, rotten gameplay by the time you get it running halfway decent.  Not to mention the clone games (FPS's particularly)....  I think we've seen the last of originality for PC software ....

I didn't originally start this post to complain, but I'm tired of spending what little money I get every month on stuff I'm not that happy playing anymore...  Lately, besides MAMETM, wife and I have been toying with Sims 2... and that's about the only gaming fun we have anymore....  otherwise, I'll drag out either Trivial Pursuit or Aggravation and have a better time....

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2005, 05:19:30 am »
For me personally...

I'm tired of the console scene for the most part.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2005, 07:20:12 am »
APFelon -

I know it's not the point but, that post was hysterical. I know it's not the point but, I figured you would want to know, at least your pain made me laugh.

Oh and I agree with what you said. If you need proof just look at all the MMORPGs that have come about since the success of a few.
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2005, 09:14:12 am »
Oldsage, I told my brother about your idea for "Real American Guns" yesterday, and he really liked the idea. He says he'll probably call the game "Real American Gunslingers", and now he's talking about introducing elements from Metal Slug and Contra as well. He also drew up some very cool sketches for characters for the game. I shouldn't give away too much, but rest assured, it will definately be a cab-worthy game when it's done. ;D

Keep us updated on your bro's game thru this thread. Hell, I'll slap some $$ down for it if it's as good as you think it will be!
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2005, 09:23:12 am »
This is what I love about retrogaming. So what if the games industry is going down the tubes? There are literally THOUSANDS of games for old 8 and 16 bit consoles that I haven't played yet! The really great thing is I can buy the consoles for $10 and the games for a buck or two each. They're not that hard to find either.

I reckon as long as I don't sell my NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, 2600, c64, Amiga or any of the other old stuff that's lying around the house, I'm sitting pretty.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2005, 09:27:44 am »
This is what I love about retrogaming. So what if the games industry is going down the tubes? There are literally THOUSANDS of games for old 8 and 16 bit consoles that I haven't played yet! The really great thing is I can buy the consoles for $10 and the games for a buck or two each. They're not that hard to find either.

I reckon as long as I don't sell my NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, 2600, c64, Amiga or any of the other old stuff that's lying around the house, I'm sitting pretty.

Good point. Alot of them can be played on a cab also, with some slight adjustments, making for a new experience!
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2005, 01:10:14 pm »
Maybe it's time for one of the hobby-ist cabinet makers to pair up with a game designer, and....  ::)

 ;D


Even though I'm not sure you're completely serious, i really think this will happen soon! My personal dream is to own a gaming company and produce new, old-style games... And i am pretty sure there are at least a few here with that same dream that are actually capable of doing that...
I think we should gather a bunch of the more skillful software engineers in these forums and get them to make a game! Hardware probably won't be a problem as there are quite a few people here selling cabs and the like (correct?)!
Oh, but don't invite ChadTower... He's mean!  ;)
 ;D

Well, I'm probably exaggerating a bit, but i really think we could pull something like this off!

I'm a programmer, and I program games as a hobby... well, more like parts of games, school has thus far managed to keep me from completing anything before losing interest and moving on to annother project. I'd definatly be interested in something like this though, I've long ago given up all hope for the console industry (unless nintendo can pull off something amazing with revolution) and even moreso the PC gaming industry. Arcades nowadays are fun, but paying $1 for about 50 seconds of gameplay (in extreme cases) is just rediculous.
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« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2005, 08:33:53 pm »
Looks cool, in a very retro way. 8)

If anyone's interested in seeing my brother's current game project, Chaos Gate, here's a link you can check out for some info and screenshots.

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2005, 08:41:55 pm »
Looks cool, in a very retro way. 8)

If anyone's interested in seeing my brother's current game project, Chaos Gate, here's a link you can check out for some info and screenshots.

http://www.gamesare.com/chaos.htm

Looks cool, a Ghouls and Ghosts meets Final Fantasy?

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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2005, 08:55:04 pm »
A little, yeah. But those certainly aren't the only games it drew inspiration from. It combines so many other gameplay elements I think I've lost count. Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, Quest for Glory, Megaman, and many other influences are being drawn upon. I can't wait till it's done. :)

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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2005, 01:21:11 am »
A little, yeah. But those certainly aren't the only games it drew inspiration from. It combines so many other gameplay elements I think I've lost count. Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, Quest for Glory, Megaman, and many other influences are being drawn upon. I can't wait till it's done. :)

That does look cool. I can't remember if you said, but will it have re-mapable keys so we can use our arcade type controls? A MAME type set-up would be sweet!
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Re: Went to an Arcade Tonight.....WoW!
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2005, 01:25:43 am »
I don't know if the software he's making it with is compatable with key-reassignment, but there's a really good keyboard/mouse/gamepad reassignment program (I believe it's called Joy to Key, do a google) and he used it to map the keys to a gamepad, and I'm sure it would be easy to remap the keys in the game. And best of all you can turn it off simply by closing it, so it's pretty straightforward software.

So in a nutshell, no, I don't think it will have reassignable keys built in. But there's very good solutions avable if you want to reassign the keys and get it running on a Mame cabinet. :)