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GGKoul:
Latest news ---> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7273739/
DrewKaree:
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--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 01:15:17 pm ---I have to *sigh* Side with Shmokes.
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OH MY!!!!! Is it too late to change my vote? :P
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No, but you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either fredster would agree with you, I would, or Dartful would.
You're stuck. ;D
fredster:
Zero_Hour,
When I said "wordy" I ment the report used dictionary definitions to make points. Pretty strange for an executive report.
You're right. I miss read the passage -
--- Quote ---It took Michael a long time to
consider the prospect of getting on with his life
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DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 09:31:20 pm ---
MrC, is that Terri's brain scan? Where in the world did you get Terri's Brain scan? That could be my mother in law's.
;)
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I can't believe you passed up the opportuni....nevermind, I'll do it myself. I'm amazed at you fredster. You're slipping. It's your old age. I hope you have a living will, too. Your quality of life is going right downhill. ;)
*inserted due to fredster's brain fart*
".....Where in the world did you get Terri's Brain scan? That could be my mother in law's "buddy" shmokes!
;)
Well, I believe tomorrow (Thursday) will be the last and final chance to have the feeding tube reinserted. I'm also putting my money on the parents to have a book deal in the works, if not written, within the year. If not, I'll be glad to be wrong, if right, I'll think they're just as bad as Schiavo, and I'll always wonder what Terri's wishes truly were.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 09:31:20 pm ---Did you notice the report was pretty one sided? I didn't see any quotes from the parents, as if they didn't participate in the writing of this report. It also points to the cause of this as an accident, not a malpractice.
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Nobody "participated" in the writing of this report. It is an independent analysis from a independent (non-biased) court appointed adviser/guardian who wrote the report for Jeb Bush. I stated that when I posted the link.
For what it's worth, I imagine the parents aren't as prominent in the report because the husband was more prominent in the care-giving. I read in the report, and I've heard confirmed elsewhere, that over 13 years, she hadn't suffered any significant bed sores. I had a cousin; very dear to me, who was quadriplegic (he has since died from complications)...even with our overly attentive family...he still developed bed sores. I know you've probably also experienced it, but health care providers are not always the most thorough or attentive people either (their plates are often full), so if left solely to them, most patients facing long-term care will develop sores.
Terri hasn't. The administrators managed-care facility considered Michael Schiavo to be a tremendously attentive husband. They jokingly called him, the facilities "Worst Nightmare." To me, it seems he has done a more than thorough job of caring for his wife in the past. This vilification he's facing by the "right-to-lifers" and the Washington Republicans, again to me, could be the most shameful aspect of this whole ordeal.
--- Quote ---MrC, is that Terri's brain scan? Where in the world did you get Terri's Brain scan? That could be my mother in law's.
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It's not your mother in law's. Where do I get these things? I do my research. A lot. It's a pain in the @ss, but I argue with integrity at stake.
Mrs. Schiavo's CAT scan is from the University of Miami Ethics Progams Shiavo resource. I sourced it when I first posted the images (visible on pg 2 of this thread). I always try to provide links and references for the things I post here that need substantiating. Keep an eye out, it's always there. I try to make it easy and post it in the same format. Picture, then a link underneath (ie: [via: link])
Not being smarmy here, but you're slippin'...it's no fun arguing with you when your watching TV and debating at the same time. Focus, man! You're missing some pretty glaring stuff.
mrC