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Schiavo rumblings
DrewKaree:
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My guess is that the judges will not touch this and keep passing it around until Terri is dead. Then there will be no story. I believe the rest of the money will be donated to some kind of charity or fund for people like Terri. The parents will be heartbroken and the husband will move on. IMHO.
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I think you've hit it on the head there. What I wonder is, will the legislation passed be used in the next case like this? I have heard conflicting reports as to why the court won't look at/follow the legislation passed.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 05:02:09 pm ---This document doesn't offer any more conclusive evidence that Terri said she wanted to go.
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Did you happen to see this part:
"The hearings and testimony before the trial court leading to the decision to discontinue artificial life support included admitted hearsay from Theresa
Zero_Hour:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 05:02:09 pm ---I read that through.
It shows he had doctors say she was dying and the doctors from the parents weren't very convincing. Then it details the law.
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Particularly, The Schindlers Neurosurgeon made numerous claims of rehabilitating cases worse than Theresa's, but could not provide any facts to back up his claim.
--- Quote ---It's long and wordy for a "summary".
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It's pretty short, for a summary of over 30,000 pages of legal/medical records.
--- Quote ---It does detail the early days. What's surpsing is the allegation that the parents agreed with Schiavo for the first few years and even introduced other women to Michael.
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I don't think that them getting along in the early years is an allegation, I think it is presented as fact. Also, it does mention Michael introducing women he was dating to the Schindlers, but makes no mention of them introducing him to women. It does say that they encouraged him to "get on with his life"
--- Quote ---Then the families became estranged after the Money came into play. He says it was them, they say it was him.
He said/she said.
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Yes, it also says that the parents tried to have Michael removed as gaurdian, and that ultimately that first try was dismissed with prejudice (no appeal). It also says that there were other attempts to have Michale removed, but that all attempts failed.
--- Quote ---This document doesn't offer any more conclusive evidence that Terri said she wanted to go.
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That's because there is no more convincing evidence. Everything has already been heard in court. and it all comes back to the credibility of hearsay.
--- Quote ---It does offer insight that the Husband tried pretty hard to help her for some time. It doen't clearly define the way this is being paid off either, or what will happen afterward.
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There were 2 settlements from the malpractice suit. $300,000 went to Michael, $750,000 went into a trust for Theresa's care. It doesn't mention what would happen if Theresa died and money was still in the trust.
--- Quote ---Who's gonna write the book do you think? The Husband or the Parents.
I got $5 on the parents. Anybody take that?
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I suspect the parents will go with a movie of the week. ::)
And so far a judge and an appelate panel have ruled on the matter since the law was passed. If that's sitting on it / passing it around then I'm not sure what else they were supposed to do.
I too am interested to see what effect the legislation will have (if any) on future cases.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 23, 2005, 01:15:17 pm ---
What he is saying is that there is lots of doubt in the public court that these were her wishes.
That's the dispute. No doubt most people agree that if this were her wish, then so be it. The dispute is lots of people don't think it was her choice.
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I think you've clarified it perfectly.
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I have to *sigh* Side with Shmokes. I think that if he was as big an ass as the media made him out to be he would have took the money and ran.
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Now I know you've made accusations in the past that shmokes is a big ass, but could you please provide sources for your claim that the media is making him out to be one too? That just seems like slander.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on March 22, 2005, 08:58:04 pm ---He hadn't received offers of money to walk away from her until just recently. He'd look like a lowlife crook if he took it now, and he would have to relinquish guardianship of her, opening up the possibility of tests to try to determine if she got to this state through what he claimed, or if foul play were involved.
Since he has guardianship of her, he has also chosen to cremate the body, so any possibility of finding these things out go right in the ashcan as well.
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I take out of this your belief that she may be in her state because of deliberate actions on Terri's husband's part. You didn't say murder, but if he deliberately caused her initial collapse (her heart was stopped and paramedics brought her back with a defibrilator (spelling?), then yeah, you believe that he is capable of murder. Why else were you asking for an autopsy.
You also have indicated multiple times, including in that post, that you believe he is in this for the trust fund money. My point is that if he is slimy enough to kill his wife (and psychic enough to know that she'll get brought back to life and then have bad treatment that will lead to a $1 million dollar malpractice award) then he's not going to bawk at the bad press that would follow his acceptance of $5 or $10 million. Like he's worried about having people people think he's slimy??? Think of all the ultra right-wing gun nuts that are plotting his execution as we speak ;)
To make a long story short, you seem to believe that he may have deliberately put Terri in this postition (obvious attempted murder), that he is a lowlife scumbag for fathering children with another lady, that the only reason he wants to pull the plug is for money -- a GRADE A, lowlife, pond-scum, slimeball. But, for some inexplicable reason, you think he's above walking away from it filthy rich because he doesn't want people to think poorly of him. I don't buy it.
As for doing the autopsy, yeah there are discomforts. It's unconstitutional search & seizure for one. It's no different than the police knocking on your door and saying, "We know that drugs have been sold in your neighborhood. We have no evidence suggesting that you sold them, but we'd like to come in and search your house to make sure. Hey, if you're innocent, what discomforts are you going to face?"