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DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« on: March 07, 2005, 03:26:22 am »
DOSCab and WinCab Jukebox version 3.0 Beta 6 has been released.  The biggest change in this version is the addition of a screensaver and a new BTN_RANDOM button, along with a heap of bug fixes.  Also new in this version is support for StripGrids in the skin files, which will make setting up new skins much easier.  Multiple StripGrids are supported, and the old Strip format is still supprted as well in case you till want to place each strip individually. Most of the old skins have been cleaned up to use StripGrids, and a skin gallery is now available on the Web page.

You can get the latest version at http://webpages.charter.net/celamantia/jukebox .

Please note that I am putting this together at 3 AM, so it is entirely possibly that I've goofed something up as I'm completely exhausted.  If you see anything wonky, please let me know.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 03:42:34 am »
The link to the download doesn't work.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 09:45:30 am »
The link to the download doesn't work.
This is why I shouldn't do things at 3 AM.   ;D

Link fixed.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2005, 10:05:49 am »
Thanks for fixing the link.  I'm already enjoying checking out the new skins. 

bjrock28.skn sure looks nice!

Thanks for sharing this, Chris!! :laugh:

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2005, 10:28:10 am »
My mouse is not working.  Mouse = Enabled.  I remarked out the pointer line just in case that was the issue, but no difference.

The mouse has worked in previous versions on my system.

I've only tried with bjrock28.skn.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2005, 10:55:57 am »
What version of Windows are you using?  I know the mouse was working with Windows XP before I packaged it up...
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2005, 10:57:52 am »
What version of Windows are you using?  I know the mouse was working with Windows XP before I packaged it up...


WindowsME. 

I really need to move on to XP.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2005, 12:47:31 pm »
By the way, there are a few things I need to make clear about upgrading to this version.  I know that many people upgrade the same way they upgrade MAME, by simply copying over the new executable, but that won't quite work in this case because of some structural changes.  I apologize for the changes, but such are the perils of a beta version...

- Previous versions included a file called jukebox.dat; this file contained the internal dot-matrix display fonts, the mouse pointer images, and a symbol list for all of the setting in the INI files.  This file no longer exists; the pointers and fonts have been split out into separate files (jbdotmat.fnt and jbdefptr.ptr, respectively) and the symbol list is now internal to the code.  One side effect of this is that you can now change the display font, and an additional display font called jbsans.fnt is included in the ZIP.  Additional fonts will probably not be made available, as I am planning to add TrueType support to the displays eventually.

- Settings in the jukebox.ini related to controls and input have been groupt together in a new [Controls] section.  If you are re-using your old jukebox.ini, you'll need to look at the jukebox.ini in the ZIP file as a model for getting your settings into the proper section.

- All skin files have been renamed from .INI to .SKN, and most have had name changes, i.e. defskin.ini is now default.skn.  These files are still plain text files, and the old INI files will continue to work, but if you are not using custom skins, it is probably best to wipe the contents of the skin folder and replace it with the files from the ZIP.

- Some errors regarding floating-point math bugs have been fixed.  The upshot of this is that some display elements may be a pixel or two off from where you expect them to be, so you may need to adjust custom skins slightly.

That is all I can think of for now...

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2005, 12:54:21 pm »
What version of Windows are you using?  I know the mouse was working with Windows XP before I packaged it up...
WindowsME. 

I really need to move on to XP.
If you download the alleg41.dll file from http://webpages.charter.net/celamantia/jukebox/alleg41.dll and copy it over the version in your jukebox folder, does it fix the problem?

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Chris, that did fix the mouse issue.  Thanks again.

BTW, I did not overlay anything.  I extracted the new version to a new directory and set things in the new jukebox.ini to reflect my config.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2005, 01:45:01 pm »
I just want to say thanks for a great update of an already fantas
tic program!

Now it's perfect for me!

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2005, 07:35:24 pm »
Thanks for the screensaver. ;-)

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2005, 10:44:17 pm »
One feature request, after having wincab up on my cabinet most of the weekend with the new screensaver feature, a simple my photos screensaver option would rock.  Turn my cabinet into a fancy photo album. ;-)

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 04:23:45 pm »
Couple of bugs :

"AddQuotes=False" doesn't do anything.  The titles are quoted no matter what.
"ForceUpperCaseTitles=False"
"ForceUpperCaseArtists=False".  They are both uppercase no matter what.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2005, 05:50:47 pm »
Couple of bugs :

"AddQuotes=False" doesn't do anything.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2005, 04:46:16 am »
Hello,

I am customizing WinCab on my PC before installing into my cab. I have a problem. Sometimes when I play a song, it plays in super fast forward and when the song ends(a matter of seconds) it kicks me out to desktop. There doesn't seem to be any rhythm or reason.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2005, 04:50:43 am by koolmoecraig »

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2005, 11:00:25 am »
This is a new one on me.  Usually, these kind of wierd problems are due to bad MP3's.  Yeah, I know it's a cop-out answer, but apparently a popular tag editor had a bug that clipped frames improperly and thus there are a lot of these running around.  I've compensated for them as best I can, but there's only so much I can do...

Unfortunately, the machine doesn't usually go wonky on the bad file, it just destabilizes the jukebox so it dies soon after.

Try running an MP3 checker (lots at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mp3+tester) to see if anything comes up whacked.  Also, set DebugLevel to 5 and send me the results of the jbdebug.log after a crash, so we can see if there's anything useful in it.
And if you can narrow it down to a particular file or set of files that cause the problem, it might be useful for me to get my hands on them for testing.

Anyone else seeing this behavior?

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2005, 11:42:16 am »
In case anyone wants it here is a hacked bjrock28 skin to be 6 x 6 and use just numbers.  Because of my bad photoshop skills, it's doesn't look as good as the original, but is much more user friendly on 6 button control panels than bjrock28, but still lets you have 36 songs per screen.

http://www.landoncrews.com/bjrock16.zip

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2005, 07:32:56 pm »
I installed the new version, however, when starting up and searching for music, it gives me a fatal error that I have no music!  This is after searching for a few seconds (titles are showing up). I deleted my old settings in the data folder and the older jukebox worked fine with the same mp3's in the same directory...


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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2005, 09:18:45 pm »
Just an update, but it searches through all my folders but finds no music...

I have mine set up as:

C:\My Music\(folder)
    CD's\(folder)
       Aritsts\(folder)
          Albums\(folder)
              mp3's(files)

I set the ini to "C:\My Music\CD's\"

This worked in the previous version, but now it just searches the folders then gives me the fatal error...
It leaves a log in the "My Music" folder as well...

I just want my jukebox back!!

Thanks...


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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2005, 12:22:00 pm »
Can you set DebugLevel to 5, run the jukebox and send me the resulting log file so I can see what's going on?

Thanks!

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2005, 02:37:23 pm »
Regarding the unicode bug I found something interesting.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2005, 05:43:58 pm »
Chris,

Debug log in the mail.....

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2005, 07:08:06 pm »
Chris,

I have one small problem with the latest version of Doscab/Wincab.
When the screensaver is running and I'm going back to the program, the program terminate! (like pressing Esc)
Not a big problem, but just to let You know...

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2005, 08:51:41 pm »
Regarding the unicode bug I found something interesting.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2005, 10:42:04 pm »
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* Play all the songs randomly without repeating.
Right now the jukebox will not repeat the last 20 songs, which should be over an hour without repeats.  I could make this value configurable, so you could at least get close to this goal.


--Chris

If you ever want to take this to the extreme and actually track when songs were last played, letting you assign a thumbs up/thumbs down to songs where songs with 3 thumbs up played are more often than one with no thumbs up, and one with 3 thumbs down never play during random play mode.   Sortof like a tivo.   And if you want to get really, really crazy, let you have multiple sets of thumbs, one for artist, one for song, and one for genre. There is a sql library called SQLite that would make this pretty easy to implement ;-)

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2005, 11:48:50 pm »
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* Play all the songs randomly without repeating.
Right now the jukebox will not repeat the last 20 songs, which should be over an hour without repeats.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2005, 02:44:42 am »
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This is a very interesting clue that will hopefully help me solve this bug... I take it your Windows system language is set to something other than English?

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2005, 09:05:34 am »
I just thought it would be nice if the jukebox was playing and the screensaver on, to occasionally switch back to see the interface.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2005, 09:56:13 am »
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* Play all the songs randomly without repeating.
Right now the jukebox will not repeat the last 20 songs, which should be over an hour without repeats.  I could make this value configurable, so you could at least get close to this goal.


--Chris

If you ever want to take this to the extreme and actually track when songs were last played, letting you assign a thumbs up/thumbs down to songs where songs with 3 thumbs up played are more often than one with no thumbs up, and one with 3 thumbs down never play during random play mode.   Sortof like a tivo.   And if you want to get really, really crazy, let you have multiple sets of thumbs, one for artist, one for song, and one for genre. There is a sql library called SQLite that would make this pretty easy to implement ;-)
That's a sharp left turn into media player territory.  DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox will never be able to compete with media-player style interfaces on these sorts of features, so instead it concentrates on being the best jukebox simulator it can.


Not really, all jukeboxes I've seen have extensive audit systems, that show every stat you can think of about the music played, so the owners can figure out which songs to leave in, and which to take out.  This data is also used so it can have attract modes that play either super popular songs, new songs, or never played songs to try to get people to notice the jukebox.  So if you are going to simulate a juke box, you could/should keep this data.  If you are going to keep the data for stats, you might as well add the feature to let us put some weight to the selections by hand since most/all of these are going to be used in homes and will never get the play time/variety one would get in the real world.   

It was really just a hey wouldn't that be cool thought.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2005, 11:03:03 am »
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The most time-consuming part of the process would be thinking of what to call the option in the jukebox.ini file.

How about ScreenSaverExitTimeout ?

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2005, 11:45:28 am »
Not really, all jukeboxes I've seen have extensive audit systems, that show every stat you can think of about the music played, so the owners can figure out which songs to leave in, and which to take out.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2005, 04:22:38 pm »
* Play all the songs randomly without repeating.
Right now the jukebox will not repeat the last 20 songs, which should be over an hour without repeats.  I could make this value configurable, so you could at least get close to this goal.

--Chris

That would be very cool.  I just saw this thread.  Dang, I'm way behind.  I need to download this latest version and check it out!

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2005, 09:22:01 pm »
Not really, all jukeboxes I've seen have extensive audit systems, that show every stat you can think of about the music played, so the owners can figure out which songs to leave in, and which to take out.  This data is also used so it can have attract modes that play either super popular songs, new songs, or never played songs to try to get people to notice the jukebox.  So if you are going to simulate a juke box, you could/should keep this data.  If you are going to keep the data for stats, you might as well add the feature to let us put some weight to the selections by hand since most/all of these are going to be used in homes and will never get the play time/variety one would get in the real world.   

It was really just a hey wouldn't that be cool thought.
I don't keep extensive audits explicitly to discourage people from trying to use it as a commercial jukebox.  Right now I just keep a raw play count, and that play count does affect which songs are played in the random modes, i.e. songs higher on the list are more likely to be played (this was new in beta 5, I think). So right now you mark a song with a "thumb" by simply playing it.  The flaw in this system is that random selections count as a play; I should go in and special-case random plays to not increment the play counters.

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cool, didn't know play counts moved them up.  It might be cool/easy to implement then to allow you to assign 2 buttons, one to increase popularity of a song, and another to reduce it, maybe even make it negative where songs like Happy Birthday, Auld Lang Syne, etc could be set to never play, unless they were picked from the menu.   If you implement the genere etc colored strips, you could auto add top 10/25/100/thumbs down symbols on the strips.   I can see if you provide to much audit, it would help commercial people use it, but it would also be cool for us geeks.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2005, 09:31:50 pm »
Chris,

I finally had a chance to download and try out this latest version.  Great job!  The screensaver is cool.  I like that you put the song info in a floating box as part of it.

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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2005, 09:32:59 pm »
I just thought it would be nice if the jukebox was playing and the screensaver on, to occasionally switch back to see the interface.
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2005, 09:34:12 pm »
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The most time-consuming part of the process would be thinking of what to call the option in the jukebox.ini file.

How about ScreenSaverExitTimeout ?
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2005, 09:37:42 pm »
Right now I just keep a raw play count, and that play count does affect which songs are played in the random modes, i.e. songs higher on the list are more likely to be played (this was new in beta 5, I think).
cool, didn't know play counts moved them up.
Actually, looking at the rev history, it's new in the latest version (b6).  But I'd intended for it to be there from the beginning.... :)
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2005, 11:23:36 pm »
Chris, what's the difference between Radio mode and the new Random mode?

EDIT:  I see.  The new Random button queues up a random song.  Cool!
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Re: DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 Beta 6 Released
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2005, 11:42:31 pm »
To anyone who had the same problem as me, after upgrading to the newer version and not being able to load any songs into the jukebox...

I moved my music into a different folder and now it is reading it??????

Thanks...
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