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"Propagannon" confirmed : Fake reporter in WH press conferences.
ChadTower:
See, that's the type of thing that makes me disbelieve the author. Hyperbole is not effective on me. I want facts, I want rational thinking, I want clear analysis. That author had none of those things, instead he had the Whitehouse full of romping gay hookers dressed up like Richard Simmons. Even if he HAD real, hard facts and astute analysis in there I will not take him seriously and neither will anyone thinking clearly.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 14, 2005, 02:57:48 pm ---Even if he HAD real, hard facts and astute analysis in there I will not take him seriously and neither will anyone thinking clearly.
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The facts are there, dude. You just don't want to believe it. Invoices, receipts, PHOTOS!
The idea is that, if the WH would let one guy like this "morally depraved" individual into the press corp, unvetted...how many more? His hyperbole doesn't discredit the facts, just his analysis. You can still use the hard evidence to come to your own conclusion. You act like you need someone to inform you of events/situations in a way you can agree with, evidence be damned. That doesn't sound right.
I'm more interested in WHY and HOW he got there. Did someone high up, "owe" him a favor? How could they NOT know about this?
TWO MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES:
Why did he have access to a CIA memo?
Who's behind him? Who's funding him?
I could care less about whether or not he's gay...but if this is what it takes to get "Scandalized" then whatever...personally I think Americans should have been concerned about his presence in the WH from the get-go, without all the "gay prostitute" stuff. Red staters probably won't care, 'cuz they already shown hypocrisy is fine, as long as it's their own.
That being said, there is real danger in this angle of the story, as it may completely draw attention away from the real issue at hand. The real issue is the Plame/Novak/CIA leak coming from a nobody/fake journalist/flimsy credentialed/porn-site operator/whom Scott McClellon calls on on a regular basis.
mr.C
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on February 14, 2005, 03:06:30 pm ---That being said, there is real danger in this angle of the story, as it may completely draw attention away from the real issue at hand. The real issue is the Plame/Novak/CIA leak coming from a nobody/fake journalist/flimsy credentialed/porn-site operator/whom Scott McClellon calls on on a regular basis.
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This is a true statement, and it is precisely why I say that hard slanted, hyperbolic articles can't be trusted. It's not only the source that cannot be trusted. You cannot trust the resultant response to said articles, either. It all fits into a larger picture to those who are making a concerted effort to not be sucked into that behaviour.
Crazy Cooter:
Jeez CT, I had no idea you were one of those "government alternate motives everywhere" kind of people too. ;)
I put forward this:
Most of the general public doesn't think more than 5 minutes in front or behind them. Once word gets around that this guy is a gay prostitute (or rumored to be whatever, I don't care). The public will totally miss the fact that this guy should never been where he was. Who better to take the blame? Bush supporters (mostly) already think less of someone who is gay so they will miss the point, homophobes will miss the point, religious nuts (that oppose prostitution) will miss the point, and people who don't pay attention will miss the point. Soo... 100% of non-voters, 90% of republicans and 80% of dems will completely miss the point.
Congrats Bush Administration. Finally I can say "well done". But I'm still don't agree with what was done.
As a sidenote, Bush has been told NOT to reveal the details of his SS plan. It's considered too touchy of an issue. It's preferred that Congress fill in the blanks so if it comes apart, it won't be blamed 100% on a republican. :o Pretty weak in my book.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on February 14, 2005, 08:13:02 pm ---Jeez CT, I had no idea you were one of those "government alternate motives everywhere" kind of people too. ;)
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I didn't realize protecting the citizens of the US is an ulterior motive.
--- Quote ---I put forward this:
Most of the general public doesn't think more than 5 minutes in front or behind them.
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