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YAY! TODAY SUCKED!!!
Zakk:
--- Quote from: Floyd10 on November 13, 2004, 12:30:47 pm ---I would very much apreciate it if you didnt attack me on a personal level.
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Actually, it was on a sig level, and the new one, while still meaningless, is much smaller. Good job.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on November 13, 2004, 02:44:11 pm ---I in no way think we should be killing anyone for religous reasons.
But drugs are a scourge on out society killing an incredible amount of people, and leaving even more people wasted and miserable. I have heard all the pro-drug arguements, but they are all meaningless because I have seen the results of long term drug use. I have first hand seen people spend their last $10 on pot instead of food for their children. I have seen a co-worker get his mobile home repossed because he was too far behind on the $150 monthly payments, all the while spending $350 a month on pot, booze, and smokes.
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Ugghh....this is hard.
Paige, I know that YOU don't think we should be killing for religious reasons. You want to kill muslims, christians, jews, budhists, hindus and jedi knights alike. You think we should strip away that nuisance we call due process and kill for societal evils, such as drug use, not religion.
What I am trying to illustrate to you by pointing to all the harm that religion has done to society, including christianity -- including protestantism, is that religion IS a societal evil. It historically has been and continues to be. Certainly you believe that the religion that you belong to deserves exemption from that mass generalization. But I'm sure you'd agree that islamic fundamentalism continues to fall into this category.
My point is that your "solution" to the problem could be applied to anything, depending on who gets to define what the "scourges of society" are. You believe that drugs are the preeminate scourge, so you'll simply shoot all the drug users. I, however, believe that religion has and continues to do FAR more harm than drug users, so when my people hold a majority, we'll outlaw religion and shoot on sight anyone observed to be associating themselves with it.
This is great. Now....why exactly are we stopping with drug use? I mean, obviously Paige is onto something here. 10 days to a complete elimination of illegal drug use. NOW THAT'S SOMETHING! Who knew it could be so easy. A drug-free society sounds pretty good to me. But you know what also sound good to me? A society free of shoplifting. And free of tax evasion. And free of stinky people. And free of people who don't use their turn signals. And those irritating bums always begging for money. And people who exceed the speed limit, endangering the lives of others. And litter-bugs. And people who play their music too loud. And people who have possess illegal roms.
Who knew that all we need to do to acheive a completely crime-free utopia is arm police officers to the teeth, "adjust" their discretion, and then just eliminate the rest of our judicial system altogether. A near-perfect society in 10 days.
It's called fascism Paige, and as retarded as it is, it's not so retarded that it doesn't have any intuitive appeal. Whole countries have used it many times throughout history. It has always been used for the same reason that it appeals to you. It seems to make no sense to have anything less than a zero-tolerance policy once you have identified something that is bad for society. Because anything less only encourages the bad behavior, right?
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on November 13, 2004, 02:36:33 pm --- I still have those brain farts I now attribute to old-timers disease, but I wonder if it's just residual effects.
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in your case, that's just you ;D
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: patrickl on November 13, 2004, 04:26:15 pm ---Are soft drugs illegal? MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAA :P
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ah, but remember, this is a country that tried to ban alcohol...
missioncontrol:
--- Quote --- If people want to do drugs, thats fine. But they'll have to deal with the consequences. We all make our own choices in life, and we also suffer our own fates.
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The problem is when the addiction really takes over and they cannot support their own habbit they turn to stealing things from others just to go get their fix. Then it starts effecting the innocent person that is working hard to get things he wants to only have them taken away from some worthless crack addict.......