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fredster:
Agreed, Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Following that logic that "guns kill people" is like saying "pencils make mistakes".

I don't agree that for every one story of a person with a gun protecting themselves there's 20 storys of guns hurting people.  

I'd say it's more like there's no story in a person protecting themselves so for every story of a gun hurting people, there's 30 stories not reported of guns protecting people.

SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: fredster on September 14, 2004, 01:41:33 pm ---I'd say it's more like there's no story in a person protecting themselves so for every story of a gun hurting people, there's 30 stories not reported of guns protecting people.

--- End quote ---

Exactly, the media just likes to print the juicy stories.
plus this is talking about normal guns, not assault rifles.  having or not having assault rifles wouldn't change any of this.  The guns used in those cases are usually handguns that someone purchased to have some protection around the house.  I doubt you are going to get an assault rifle for that.

BTW, if anyone wants to "shoot" other people with an assault rifle check out airsoft.  Airsoft is an alternative to painball where you use small plastic BBs instead of paintballs.  And because of this the guns can be more realistic :)  Most airsoft fields have limits and safety rules you have to abide by such as limiting a gun to 300-400fps and have to were full face paintball mask.  and suggest you wear heavy clothes like BDUs.

And no, I don't want to start the argument that these guns should be banned because they look real.  If you are going to commit a crime with a real gun or a fake gun that looks like a real gun you deserve the same consequences.  You obviously got the fake gun that looks real because you knew people would think it looks real and act like it's a real gun.  Therefore you deserve the same consenquences.  I find putting the orange tips on those type of guns hilarious.  A cop isn't going to go easy on you because you have an orange tip ont he gun.  The cop doesn't know if it is a real gun with a painted tip so he/she is going to act the same in either case.

fredster:
What is the assult weapon anyway?
is it a weapon that is fully automatic?  Is it a semi-automatic?

Was this ban a response to Columbine?  

Darkstalker:
"And the National Rifle Association says that, 'Guns don't kill people, people do,' but I think the gun helps, you know? I think it helps. I just think just standing there going, 'Bang'! That's not going to kill too many people, is it? You'd have to be really dodgy on the heart to have that&#65533;"

-Eddie Izzard, "Dressed to Kill"

Dartful Dodger:
More kids die playing sports than are killed with guns.

A year or two ago in Chicago(a city that doesn't allow people to own a hand gun) a guy went into a car parts warehouse and shot and killed seven people.  At the time of the shooting Daley wanted to sue the people who sell guns to criminals, so they traced the origins of the gun. The gun was previously owned by a Vietnam vet, who bought it from a state police officer, who bought it from another state police officer.  As of yet, I haven

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