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Buddabing:
--- Quote ---Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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I respectfully disagree. Guns do kill people. For every story about someone defending him/herself with a gun, there are probably twenty stories about four-year-old girls accidentally killing themselves with guns, or "heat of the moment" type killings that wouldn't happen if they didn't have guns, or people shooting their own kids coming through the window, or people blowing away drunken, lost Scotsmen who are knocking at the door. That's why there are no guns at my house and my kids aren't allowed to go to anyone's house where there is a gun.
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is poppycock.
fredster:
--- Quote ---And 30 round clips?
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So you don't have to reload. Duh.
The point about gun control is the control part. Give and inch, they take a mile. Before you know it, they'll want to take all of them.
There's a little decrepancy on what "assault" weapons are anyway.
I've had a gun of some sort and used it since I was 7. NOT having guns is the problem, people dont' know respect for them.
You should have seen the 'urbans' who had no idea what a gun was when I joined the army.
SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: namzep on September 13, 2004, 06:25:08 pm ---I have not seen a single good reason that anyone could need an assault weapon. Handguns? Sure. Shotguns? Why not. But, an assault weapon makes no sense. It takes away what little sport there is from hunting (not a big fan of hunting). Unless you could sell the guns but refuse to sell the ammo/clips for such guns. Then, collectors could collect them but they wouldn't be fireable.
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--- Quote ---I just don't understand the arguement for needing something like that.
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Why get an assault gun, because you can. Plus selling without the magazine would not be a good idea, the whole look of some guns it recognized by the magazine. And AK47, MP5, M16, AUG would all just look weird without a mag. Plus for a collector it needs to be a working model in order for it to be worth anything. It's like transformer toys. The transformer isn't worth much if it isn't in complete working condition.
Sport cars and SUVs kill people too and they are unnessessary yet we buy those in droves.
For some people it's not about what the gun can do versus just owning it. How many people who own a Hummer (not an H2) actually put the Hummer to it's paces? I want to see someone who bought the smoke stack for it and actually drive it through 5ft of water regularly.
you will get the same type of argument from someone who doesn't understand why you have an arcade cabinet. They will wonder why you need it. You don't, you wanted one.
--- Quote ---"Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is poppycock.
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no, people kill people. The gun alone can't do anything. That's the point of the saying. You mentioned a kid accidently shooting themselves. That's the parents fault for not properly storing the gun in a locked gun cabinet with a trigger lock and storing the ammo seperately and not in the gun. All your examples can basically boil down to it was the person's fault. Plus some of them really don't happen that often and you were listing rare occations as examples.
People act like it's the guns fault when it isn't. People have been killing people even before guns were invented. Same story, different
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Oh yeah, to add how many of you have kids and a knife block sitting on your kitchen counter? I've seen just as many stories of kids seriously injuriing or dieing because they played with the sharpest knifes in the house. So it isn't guns or knifes, it's the people.
I merged the wo gun ban threads together...
RacerX:
--- Quote from: Buddabing on September 14, 2004, 12:32:32 pm ---
--- Quote ---Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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I respectfully disagree. Guns do kill people. For every story about someone defending him/herself with a gun, there are probably twenty stories about four-year-old girls accidentally killing themselves with guns, or "heat of the moment" type killings that wouldn't happen if they didn't have guns, or people shooting their own kids coming through the window, or people blowing away drunken, lost Scotsmen who are knocking at the door. That's why there are no guns at my house and my kids aren't allowed to go to anyone's house where there is a gun.
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is poppycock.
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Uhh, in every one of the circumstances you just mentioned, people are the ones pulling the trigger. Just because it's an "accident" does not mean it is the gun's fault. Responsible gun owners don't allow their children unsupervised access to their guns, nor do they shoot without knowing what they are shooting at.
Sephroth57:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on September 14, 2004, 12:59:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: namzep on September 13, 2004, 06:25:08 pm ---I have not seen a single good reason that anyone could need an assault weapon. Handguns? Sure. Shotguns? Why not. But, an assault weapon makes no sense. It takes away what little sport there is from hunting (not a big fan of hunting). Unless you could sell the guns but refuse to sell the ammo/clips for such guns. Then, collectors could collect them but they wouldn't be fireable.
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--- Quote ---I just don't understand the arguement for needing something like that.
--- End quote ---
Why get an assault gun, because you can. Plus selling without the magazine would not be a good idea, the whole look of some guns it recognized by the magazine. And AK47, MP5, M16, AUG would all just look weird without a mag. Plus for a collector it needs to be a working model in order for it to be worth anything. It's like transformer toys. The transformer isn't worth much if it isn't in complete working condition.
Sport cars and SUVs kill people too and they are unnessessary yet we buy those in droves.
For some people it's not about what the gun can do versus just owning it. How many people who own a Hummer (not an H2) actually put the Hummer to it's paces? I want to see someone who bought the smoke stack for it and actually drive it through 5ft of water regularly.
you will get the same type of argument from someone who doesn't understand why you have an arcade cabinet. They will wonder why you need it. You don't, you wanted one.
--- Quote ---"Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is poppycock.
--- End quote ---
no, people kill people. The gun alone can't do anything. That's the point of the saying. You mentioned a kid accidently shooting themselves. That's the parents fault for not properly storing the gun in a locked gun cabinet with a trigger lock and storing the ammo seperately and not in the gun. All your examples can basically boil down to it was the person's fault. Plus some of them really don't happen that often and you were listing rare occations as examples.
People act like it's the guns fault when it isn't. People have been killing people even before guns were invented. Same story, different tools. Banning guns isn't going to stop anything.
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owned!!! :P
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