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WakingJohn:
--- Quote from: Darkstalker on September 11, 2004, 03:12:52 pm ---"Uh... you know that the entire point of CSS is so that you dont' have to use tables at all right? Tables slow down page rendering more than most html code. CSS makes it so you can build a site using CSS's layout styling and NOT have any tables at all..... "
Yea, but it is a nice way of explaining it, even though it isn't technically accurate.
Besides, with machines being as fast as they are now, comparing CSS to HTML tables for rendering time is like arguing about the 2D rendering speed between the ATI x800 Pro and GeForceFX 6800. It just doesn't matter anymore. That, and it will take longer to download the page graphics than it will to render frames. After that, if you use PHP and Smarty templates, it's all cached.
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Another advantage with using tables in css is that it makes backwards compatibility alot nicer imho. There are still lots of folks running older browsers whose css support is... well... lets just say it leaves things to be desired.
--- Quote ---Ok so I do have something to say about the splash screen.
I love to see a Kickass Flash intro to a site that I have never been to before. I compels me to look deeper. I personally would love to see a nice lengthy splash flash movie, even if we are all going to skip it after one visit.
Kinda like a sweet commercial for the site. You know what I mean?
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Yeaaah, but if they are already going to the site, aren't they wanting to look into it anyways?
Splash screens are horrible. They are a burden on bandwidth, design, flow... Really everything. They have their place on entertainment sites or maybe art/personal sites, but for a site designed to get people information we should worry instead about getting people information as fast and easily as possible. This means as soon as they click the page the should be drawn to what they want. The people we are targeting are likely already buildinng their cabinet or wanting to. We don't need to lure them into our site - thats what our resources are for.
But yes, css/php/mysql is definitely the route to go. Also as mentioned in the other thread, maybe using these via an open source kit like mambo or something.
rampy:
i'm a big fan of php/mysql
standards compliant xhtml/css that degrades nicely is a good goal to have
I'm a fan of some CMS's out there (like postnuke, but don't think that would be a good fit) or MAMBO which may be a better fit ( planetjay has gone nuts on mambo-efying his sites saint for point of reference, or i've used it for sites at my work)
I wonder for the purely FAQ part if it would be worth it to look at even a pay for knowledge base/ automated FAQ thingie... soemthing that did the tree-ing and structuring nicely (or a good php/mysql open source one, but i never found one that met all my needs in the past)
rampy
Crazy Cooter:
Whatever you decide, keep it simple. Test is with the default IE settings set to high. If it doesn't work, you'll start losing people. I run with all the extra crap turned off. If I get to a webpage and don't see anything, I move on. I've always preferred php/mySQL.
"I feel like I am surfin the local BBS on my 9600 baud modem back in 1993 when I look at this."
I like that. All this flash this, high bandwidth that, etc. etc. I long for the good 'ol days when people had stuff to say rather than "show". Unless it's a pic of a cab or something... ;)
Matt, GoC:
Please take into consideration people like me running a crappy 700MHz laptop with a crappy video chipset. Flash is my worst enemy. I think a simple layout with highly optimized images where needed would be best. This would save saint bandwidth. As far as features go, I'm all for a database-backed site. Nothing like wading through a huge table of broken project links, when we could search for what we're looking for. It's hard for me to remember what a cab is called on the examples page when I can remember what it had and search on that. I also would like to see project hosting at a reasonable cost. You could set up a template to use to set up the page for those who don't wanna spend all day designing a page.
Xphile:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on November 11, 2004, 10:44:52 pm ---Whatever you decide, keep it simple.
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