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Workshop 2.0 WIP
« on: June 04, 2020, 03:26:41 am »
Over the last 3 years my basement has developed a flooding problem. I tried a bunch of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to fix it and failed.

This year has been the worst so far. After the first round of thunderstorms half my basement flooded and the water would not recede. My sump pump ran 24/7 and I was vacuuming up 100+ gallons of water a night.



I looked up drastic measures on the internet. I saw an effective system was to trench around the interior perimeter of your basement and install drain tile.

Awesome. Demolition. My specialty.

I started doing the math and I determined that a 16 inch trench through 5 inches of concrete over 180 linear feet, AND 40 feet of drain pipe buried outside my house was too much work for me and a friend or two.

Time to hire professionals.



Trench



New sump pit. 2 24 inch basins tied together. New pump and a backup pump.



New concrete poured.

They also installed drains tied into the new system in all 4 of my window wells.

There is a channel around the entire perimeter of the basement that will catch water from cracks that develop in the basement walls.

Done in 3 days.

Now the new shop will begin to take shape. More posts will follow as things develop.

First I have to wait a day or two longer for the concrete to cure.


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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2020, 03:33:41 am »
Phase 1 was completed before the drain tile installation.

I ran 3 x 20 amp circuits along the length of my basement.

There are two lines of outlets every ten feet on the ceiling.

The third line runs outlets every ten feet along one wall.

I have 2 x 30 amp 220 circuits running into the new wood shop area.

The wood shop will be 27' x 27'

It will be walled off from the rest of the basement.

More to follow in a day or two.


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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2020, 04:46:39 am »
This is going to pay off. Subscribed. 

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2020, 06:54:21 am »
God - you have so much room....  now.   :applaud:
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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2020, 10:34:37 am »
Good to see you are back on solid ground Mike.  We have a saying on our job sites, "Never assume the guy before you did it correctly."   I can't wait to see your new wood working shop.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2020, 11:34:57 am by jdbailey1206 »

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2020, 01:19:27 pm »
So jealous.  Iím sure there will be lots of inspiration from this so that I can build my dream shop in the sky.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2020, 01:22:13 pm »
Row boat project is cancelled??  :(
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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2020, 01:34:32 pm »
Row boat project is cancelled??  :(
Just waiting for Mike to get here

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2020, 01:39:17 pm »
Well Bob is just jealous because my shop will be 1 square foot bigger than his.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2020, 01:40:32 pm »
you know I am..  :notworthy:
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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2020, 01:46:11 pm »
I have a 1950 something Craftsmen jointer I am going to need help refurbishing.

If only I knew a guy who loves tools, old things, refurbishing, and beer.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2020, 01:47:29 pm »
I have a 1950 something Craftsmen jointer I am going to need help refurbishing.

If only I knew a guy who loves tools, old things, refurbishing, and beer.
and has a shop 1 square foot bigger than yours..
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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2020, 02:30:48 pm »
Ugh I've gotta put in more drainage around my workshop (it's in a building outside).  Normally we get a little bit of flooding in the spring but this year it's been practically underwater.  I had the good sense to build it on cinderblocks, but that doesn't help me actually wade through the water to get in.  Mine's tiny though... only 12x12. 

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2020, 02:53:02 pm »
Mine's tiny though... only 12" x 12".

Hey.  Thats one square foot!   ;D

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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2020, 09:07:09 am »
Everyone I know with a basement canít talk for 5 seconds about it without mentioning the last time it flooded.  They are not new technology, but this problem seems insurmountable.  Yet people keep building them. 

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2020, 03:05:40 pm »
I could be really nuts and move to a city that gets pounded by a hurricane every couple of years, but that is crazy talk. ;)


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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2020, 05:57:26 pm »
We used to never have any natural disaster issues, but the ground is super saturated right now.  If it rains any more I might turn my back yard into a Koi pond. 

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2020, 08:10:17 pm »
I could be really nuts and move to a city that gets pounded by a hurricane every couple of years, but that is crazy talk. ;)

I live 40 miles inland and didn't even lose power during Harvey.

100% of basements flood.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2020, 08:27:53 am »
I could be really nuts and move to a city that gets pounded by a hurricane every couple of years, but that is crazy talk. ;)

I live 40 miles inland and didn't even lose power during Harvey.

100% of basements flood.

 :dunno
Owned my house since 93'  - Zero floods.

The buildings that have flooded basements are typically older and were built before they put better codes in place.  Now they measure the highest water level and your basement has to be 2-3' above it.  Or better - they basement is put in with proper drainage to begin with and there is never an issue.  The just didn't do that in the old days.  There are many MANY houses with finished basements that haven't got water in them..   They are just normally newer buildings.

I prefer the space - how all you people live on slabs is weird.. 


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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2020, 09:13:30 am »
We had to do the trench thing in my mates basement.

His is much smaller though lol

Proper nerd dungeon in the making eh? :p

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2020, 10:05:00 am »
If my basement floods after this I will be shocked. This system can handle a massive amount of water.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2020, 10:15:02 am »
If my basement floods after this I will be shocked. This system can handle a massive amount of water.
Should be fine.

Having a decent pump that can handle the head (giggidy) is prob the hardest part.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2020, 05:22:34 pm »
I did a similar amount of trenching on a house in 1992 and paid about $3,500. What's it cost now? You were smart not to do it. In '92, I had more time than money and seriously considered trying to do it, but after seeing the amount of material they pulled out of the house and the number of folks they had to do it - it would've been a mistake for me to do it. It was rock solid and fixed my basement water issues. The house sold recently and it's been dry the entire time

The guys that did mine, didn't do as well matching up the concrete as yours. It was messy, so you got that going for you.

What's both pits for? It looks like you have 2 lines going out? I assume there is a backup sump in there or something? One of my Carona projects was to setup my backup sump. I have it exiting out of the house and not tied into the sewer at all and it's battery powered. I don't think I need it, but it gives me piece of mind. The battery backup unit was about $100 and another $100 for a deep cycle battery.

Also, these are great: https://www.amazon.com/Water-Alarm-Electronic-Detector-Detects/dp/B072XVW44W

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2020, 07:20:42 pm »
The two pits are tied together. That way the pump cycles less often.

Yes there is a backup as well.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2020, 09:04:53 am »
Demoing houses for the past 15+ years I have seen some weird ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  Building codes have definitely come a long way to help the home owner.  I don't remember there being drains when my parents built their old house in '90.  But in my house now that was built in 2010 contains three floor drains that feed directly into the sump pump.

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Re: Workshop 2.0 WIP
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 08:59:59 am »
I did this in my basement.
Except, my basement walls are stone and my floor was dirt.
I dug the dirt out by hand and wheelbarrow'd it out the back.

put in drain tile and filled the whole thing with stone and cement.
It has a 7ft ceiling (slightly less at the beam) but i'm 5'8" so not worried about banging my head.

I was in my early 30's, though. took the week off and literally lost a whole pant size when I was done.

Also, jelly of anyone with a basement that isn't freezing cold in the winter and has wet floors in the warmer months.
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