Lichtknarre: Unmodified Wii remote as a sight accurate Lightgun using 2/4 LEDs

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lilshawn:

--- Quote from: RandyT on November 04, 2022, 10:17:38 pm ---If that's the case, the IR version are only using a little over 1/10th of that 3-watt rating for IR light. But I'm not an LED pro, so I could be wrong about that last part :)

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thats kind of a problem with all these mixed and reuse of terms.

luminary watt is different, but related to power watt in the case of incandescency (is that a word?).......but is different to the "watt" led's use to describe the output cause they try and equivalent it. and then try and throw in a meter^2 onto that to make it extra confusing.

lumens are lumens except when talking about lumens and power because when they are, it's not because of power its because of the candella because WHY NOT! :banghead:

don't get me started on "foot candelas" cause it's LUX and screw you guys!.

it all boiled down to light bulb manufacturers trying to create the biggest number scheme to advertise their bulbs because "human brain goes 5 big 1 little he he" and OUR bulb only consumes 35 didgeridoos and outputs 99 schmeckles!

RandyT:

--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 05, 2022, 07:37:55 am ---Fusselkroete, don't let the criticisms cover up how grateful we are for this program. I bought these guns a decade ago to add to my arcade cabinet. Finally they are accurate enough to use them. Thank you. :notworthy:

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QFT! It's again important to emphasize that the software is extremely usable and with many options for dialing in accuracy, which is a huge accomplishment by Fusselkroete, especially given that the software is beta and free!

The fact that it works so well even at this stage shows just how much potential it has to become the choice for folks wanting to add a relatively inexpensive, accurate and wireless light gun to their arcade setups, regardless of their technical background. Any criticisms are meant to be 100% constructive. They are just us "pointing out minor bumps in an otherwise smooth road" to hopefully help Fusselkroete to improve the user experience in future versions.

Even the biggest issue I have found (which may or may not be specifically related to my setup) is not game-breaking, as the software recovers quickly enough to not be a major issue in actual use, so I would encourage any "fence-sitters" reading this to give it a try. You won't be disappointed!

If I didn't see something great here, I wouldn't care enough to take the time. But I do, I have, and will continue to do so until Fusselkroete tells me he's tired of reading my crap :)

--- Quote from: lilshawn on November 05, 2022, 10:46:00 am ---luminary watt is different, but related to power watt in the case of incandescency (is that a word?).......but is different to the "watt" led's use to describe the output cause they try and equivalent it. and then try and throw in a meter^2 onto that to make it extra confusing.

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That's why they should never have used the term "watt" with any LED (or other light source, for that matter) to describe it's output. It's, scientifically speaking, an entirely unrelated unit of measure. One example I saw stated was that a 50-watt LED automobile headlamp bulb had the equivalent output to that of a 500-watt halogen. Using watts in this way is like saying that your electric space heater is a 1500-watt ni-chrome IR bulb, which is just stupid. But it all stems from the invention of the tungsten filament light bulb, which put out a specific amount of light depending on the power it consumed. It was a frame of reference most consumers of the time could relate to, and it simultaneously told them the relative cost to use them. So, the reference was stored, seemingly permanently, into our collective DNA. Now that incandescents really are no longer a thing, manufacturers are starting to try to reverse that damage, but it will be another decade or three before the incorrect usage (mostly) goes away. The only problem is that consumers will still want to know how much the thing will cost them when they flip the switch, and they pay in watts, so it will always be with us to some extent.

TLDR; Lotsa watts don't always mean hella bright :)

lilshawn:
i'm coming up with my own measurement....with blackjack....and hookers!

Fusselkroete:

--- Quote from: RandyT on November 05, 2022, 11:33:12 am ---
--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 05, 2022, 07:37:55 am ---Fusselkroete, don't let the criticisms cover up how grateful we are for this program. I bought these guns a decade ago to add to my arcade cabinet. Finally they are accurate enough to use them. Thank you. :notworthy:

--- End quote ---

QFT! It's again important to emphasize that the software is extremely usable and with many options for dialing in accuracy, which is a huge accomplishment by Fusselkroete, especially given that the software is beta and free!

The fact that it works so well even at this stage shows just how much potential it has to become the choice for folks wanting to add a relatively inexpensive, accurate and wireless light gun to their arcade setups, regardless of their technical background. Any criticisms are meant to be 100% constructive. They are just us "pointing out minor bumps in an otherwise smooth road" to hopefully help Fusselkroete to improve the user experience in future versions.

Even the biggest issue I have found (which may or may not be specifically related to my setup) is not game-breaking, as the software recovers quickly enough to not be a major issue in actual use, so I would encourage any "fence-sitters" reading this to give it a try. You won't be disappointed!

If I didn't see something great here, I wouldn't care enough to take the time. But I do, I have, and will continue to do so until Fusselkroete tells me he's tired of reading my crap :)

--- Quote from: lilshawn on November 05, 2022, 10:46:00 am ---luminary watt is different, but related to power watt in the case of incandescency (is that a word?).......but is different to the "watt" led's use to describe the output cause they try and equivalent it. and then try and throw in a meter^2 onto that to make it extra confusing.

--- End quote ---

That's why they should never have used the term "watt" with any LED (or other light source, for that matter) to describe it's output. It's, scientifically speaking, an entirely unrelated unit of measure. One example I saw stated was that a 50-watt LED automobile headlamp bulb had the equivalent output to that of a 500-watt halogen. Using watts in this way is like saying that your electric space heater is a 1500-watt ni-chrome IR bulb, which is just stupid. But it all stems from the invention of the tungsten filament light bulb, which put out a specific amount of light depending on the power it consumed. It was a frame of reference most consumers of the time could relate to, and it simultaneously told them the relative cost to use them. So, the reference was stored, seemingly permanently, into our collective DNA. Now that incandescents really are no longer a thing, manufacturers are starting to try to reverse that damage, but it will be another decade or three before the incorrect usage (mostly) goes away. The only problem is that consumers will still want to know how much the thing will cost them when they flip the switch, and they pay in watts, so it will always be with us to some extent.

TLDR; Lotsa watts don't always mean hella bright :)

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Yeah no problem i see it also as constructive critism. Seems like he realy found a bug. i thought this was fixed already hehe or maybe his wiimote is broken. not sure :D Thanks for all your feedback :D

Fusselkroete:
Ok to summarize what we found out:

Seems like the BT dongle is not from the compatibility list from the guide: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_Working_Bluetooth_Devices
For all users out there better use an good compatible bt dongle like from the list.

I use "TP-Link UB400 Nano USB Bluetooth 4.0". The Problem is i can't test all the BT dongles out there, thats why the list suggestion :D.

But the wiimotes are connecting and the App become feeded with data. So maybe its not compatible, but it maybe can become compatible. So i have now several ideas how to make it more stable and many guesses why it fails:

# the bt dongle sends the data in a too low or too high frequency. too high frequency should not be a problem:
> Will try to interpolate this in future versions with one frame buffer or tell the user that the BT-Dongle is bad. Will do some tests with these two scanarios.

# timer resolution for time stamps could be different on this Operation system.
> Will check on that.

# the accelation sensor has different update timing for each device seperate from the wiimote update frequence. so maybe some accelation values get stucked all 2 frames or something.
> Will try to make a accelation check.

So big thanks to randy for giving me inspirations.

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