Lichtknarre: Unmodified Wii remote as a sight accurate Lightgun using 2/4 LEDs

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Howard_Casto:
Well like I said, the nyko wands already have the A and B buttons outputted to a set of three contacts below the accessory port (A ground and B respectively). Three pogo pins installed at the back of the shell could make it a solderless hack. Something I'm wondering is if wii motion plus is required. If so that makes a difference on which wiimotes we need.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 28, 2022, 08:52:49 pm ---Well like I said, the nyko wands already have the A and B buttons outputted to a set of three contacts below the accessory port (A ground and B respectively). Three pogo pins installed at the back of the shell could make it a solderless hack. Something I'm wondering is if wii motion plus is required. If so that makes a difference on which wiimotes we need.

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Well, something still needs to be connected to those pogo pins somehow. Maybe we have different definitions for "turn-key" :)

There's also the possibility that the camera in those remotes is similar, or maybe even the same as the cheap aftermarket remotes, which either work poorly in this particular application, or possibly not at all. And even if the Nykos do work as well, they are far less common. Quite a few unknowns with these, unless you already have one and have tested it.

RE: Motion plus

If you mean with regard to Lichtknarre, I don't believe it is currently supported. From what I have been able to gather, the remotes with it built-in are incompatible with pretty much all of these enthusiast applications. I'm surmising that the reason for this is the difference in firmware on those devices.

Howard_Casto:
Drill three holes in the shell and glue/epoxy the crimp style pogo pins into said holes that are crimped to wires leading to switches.... seems a lot easier than hacking up the wiimote. Nyko wiimotes and all third party wiimotes behave the same. Did some of the testing on my old software via a 3-dollar knockoff as well as the standard version. I suppose the quality of the camera could be different, but I didn't notice any difference. Nyko wands are literally the most abundant third party wiimote besides rock candy. I posted a link to just one of the myriad of sources on ebay.

Supporting wii motion plus wiimotes isn't difficult..... it just requires a different handshake if I remember correctly, and it'll show up like a wiimote with wii motion plus plugged in... did it with my test software years ago. I figured most of this stuff out years ago, but I needed help with the math to calculate position... asked for help several times and got crickets.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 29, 2022, 03:00:29 am ---Nyko wiimotes and all third party wiimotes behave the same. Did some of the testing on my old software via a 3-dollar knockoff as well as the standard version. I suppose the quality of the camera could be different, but I didn't notice any difference. Nyko wands are literally the most abundant third party wiimote besides rock candy. I posted a link to just one of the myriad of sources on ebay.

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Howard, just type "nyko wii remote" into Google and click on the reviews in the right panel. You'll see that there are many complaints about dropped connections and camera accuracy issues. The same issues have been reported widespread with other 3rd party brands. The camera modules in the remotes are "smart", and whatever tech magic is in the originals, isn't in the knock-offs. It's also been reported that the accelerometers are of lower quality and much less sensitive, which, from my understanding, will likely affect accuracy in a major way. Also, the German lightgun guy did a review of Lichtknarre recently on YT and immediately got a comment from a viewer complaining about his remote constantly dropping the connection when testing the software. It was a 3rd party remote.

*edit* I removed some comments about the + enabled version, as some headway appears to have been made out there, either in the MS BT stack or in some of the libraries. But unless something has changed, Fusselkroete doesn't have one of those units to test with, according to his site, so support for them might take a long back-seat to more pressing concerns.

BadMouth:
I still like the idea of a 3D printed shell with a wiimote pcb mounted on edge, or entire wiimote mounted on edge utilizing the nun-chuck connector for trigger and other buttons.
(making progress on my home repairs/remodeling, but it will still be at least a month until I have time to mess around with any projects.)

A couple guns I hadn't seen before came up while I was searching for a pic of something else.
Both from 10+ years ago and not easy to find, but worth looking at. Maybe some Chinese company still has the molds or are using them for some other system.

Scorpion VII - One of the posts I came across said the connection would drop when dolphin was launched.

Possibly better quality, the Penguin United Crossfire Remote Pistol

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