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| Howard_Casto:
Climate change is real, full stop, no need for further explanation. People that don't "believe" in it don't "believe" in things, like logic, the scientific method, common sense and frikkin observing the planet getting hotter with their own senses and therefore aren't worth arguing with. It's like trying to explain purple to a blind man.... the concept is so foreign to them that they don't have any frame of reference. |
| Zebidee:
Radny, I am sick of hearing your anti-climate change conspiracy rubbish. Take it somewhere else. This thread is about e-bikes. If you can't leave it alone, at least stay on topic. |
| pbj:
Lead, schmead, in 100 years we'll all be dead. |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on September 05, 2022, 09:50:41 pm ---I once heard one of these geologists say that volcanoes put out way more CO2 than humans. This is nonsense. The average listener of that station would be thinking "well he's a geologist, he should know'. You know who knows? A VULCANologist. --- End quote --- Well, first of all, the amount of CO2 expelled by a volcano should be based on empirical data, so it wouldn't matter if it was regurgitated by a geologist or your babysitter. The numbers should still be the same. You also assume that there are no monetary/political interests involved by those rooted in academia, which couldn't be farther from the truth. They have much more to lose from not aligning themselves with certain governmental interests. In fact, just days ago legislation was adopted which benefited them greatly under the guise of student loan forgiveness. It's a lot easier to decide to sign up for classes if you think there's a good chance you won't ever be forced to pay back the loan you needed to do so. If this was done for the auto industry, they'd be selling like hotcakes! Then of course there are research grants being fought for by all of these institutions. You don't think that they are handed out to an institution likely to come to an opposing conclusion, do you? Money is involved on both sides, and no matter what your opinion is on the subject, you are personally paying the costs of lobbyists for BOTH sides of the argument. The difference is that you probably got something you wanted from the free-market capitalist. --- Quote from: Zebidee on September 06, 2022, 02:57:25 am ---Radny, I am sick of hearing your anti-climate change conspiracy rubbish. --- End quote --- You could always place your head back in the sand or not read my posts :) --- Quote ---If you can't leave it alone, at least stay on topic. --- End quote --- I'm just responding to others, as I am now to both of you. Since neither of you apparently read what I wrote, I'm not denying that temperatures are increasing, at least based on the measurements taken over the time in question. I even gave you the main reason. Climate change is man-made at the lowest of levels. You two obviously seem ok with living in a devolving world, along with your offspring and their offspring (if they are allowed any by then.) But there are roughly 100,000,000 in this country alone who aren't, and probably another 1,400,000,000 (China), not to mention the massive populations of underdeveloped countries who just don't care, so enjoy your bugburgers and reduced quality of life in futility. The people pushing this upon you won't be. And as a side note, this is in the cricket flour they are starting to sneak into your food so you can get protein from something other than meat: --- Quote ---Chitosan acts by forming gels in the intestinal tract which entrap lipids and other nutrients, including fat soluble vitamins and minerals, thus interfering with their absorption. Dietary chitosan may influence calcium metabolism by accelerating its urinary excretion. The reported undesirable effects are a marked decrease in plasma vitamin E level, reduction in bone mineral content and growth retardation. --- End quote --- And so this post will be slightly on topic, e-bikes will keep you from breathing so hard, thereby reducing your personal CO2 emissions. But it's going to take a long while before any of those savings are realized, considering that they are not made in a country with strict environmental regulations. Then again, probably nothing you own is, so do you really care? |
| Dawgz Rule:
Thank you Randy. I hadn't had time to jump in here, but you are absolutely right about academia. This is coming from somebody whose organizations sole business is managing research grants for a university system. There are plenty of grant incentives around to promote man-made climate change. Climate change today is no different then the hysteria about the next ice age was coming back in the 70's. The reality is that the planet naturally goes through periods of heating and cooling. It's pretty well documented. That isn't to say that we shouldn't be good stewards of the gift that we all live upon. However, we also need to fully understand the upstream and downstream impacts of these decisions. For example, it doesn't do us much good to move to solar and wind if it requires more coal plants (in China) to deliver the very same. It doesn't do much good to drive an EV given the significant environmental impact to produce and dispose of the batteries, let alone the need for more coal to power grid to support them. Last, it doesn't make good sense to reduce oil and gas production in the US, only to purchase it overseas where there are fewer environmental controls in the production process. Also, companies take advantage of going green purely for profit. From a auto manufacturing perspective, EV's equals a steady flow of income. The average life of an EV battery is well below the average life of a gas engine. Additionally, the cost of a replacement battery system is so prohibitively expensive that most people will opt to purchase a new vehicle. At that point you are not only dealing with battery waste, but a whole automobile of waste. A balanced approach is always the best approach. |
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