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Why use emulators when theres RetroArch?
B2K24:
GroovyMAME runs all the consoles I care about like NES, SNES, Genesis, ETC. Plus, some of the consoles have cheats too. I don't really see a reason to use other emulators when I'm gaming on my CRTs.
I have a real N64 plus Everdrive X7 so that takes care of that :)
Software lists and GM are just soooo convenient. I use a N64 joypad connected to my PC with a USB converter and have GM menu buttons configed to my pad.
Best lazy gaming ever while kicking back :)
abispac:
--- Quote from: B2K24 on September 04, 2022, 09:30:21 pm ---GroovyMAME runs all the consoles I care about like NES, SNES, Genesis, ETC. Plus, some of the consoles have cheats too. I don't really see a reason to use other emulators when I'm gaming on my CRTs.
I have a real N64 plus Everdrive X7 so that takes care of that :)
Software lists and GM are just soooo convenient. I use a N64 joypad connected to my PC with a USB converter and have GM menu buttons configed to my pad.
Best lazy gaming ever while kicking back :)
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but everytime i run nes and snes it says emulation is not perfect...
haynor666:
Because it's not perfect really. Better to stick with other emulators as mentioned already.
Just because any kind emulators will not be 100% perfect I stick to real hardware when I can. So far I forced to use emus for:
Atari VCS/2600 - personally it's too primitive system for me these days but sometimes I play some game for nostalgia. I have real hardware but video output is really ugly
Atari Jaguar - plan to emulate because because I don't have real console or flashcart. Console is expensive but not to many games to play
Atari ST - there was a plan but due to the fact that 99,99% games are on amiga and 99,99% are better on amiga I skipped this system
PC-FX - I don't have real hardware I don't have any plans to buy, I'm interested only in two games
Nintendo Entertainment System - lack of RGB but I have real console and Everdrive so in the future then I finally mod my NES I move to real hardware
Super Nintendo Entertainment System (only for some games with customs chips like Mega Man X3, Metal Falcon, I hope to upgrade to FXPAK Pro in the future)
Nintendo 64 - lack of RGB so emu for now, besides I don't have Everdrive for this console, some games that I like I have but in german version :/
GameBoy - i prefer to play on CRT screen rather small LCD with noticable lag. GB games can be played on SNES using Super Game Boy and I have it but I don't have Everdrive for GB
GameBoy Color, GameBoy Advance - i prefer to play on CRT screen rather small LCD with noticable lag even if I have GameBoy Player for Gamecube. All games are working in interlace mode with stretching which I really don't like. I have some chinese flashcart but I never tested with GameBoy player
NDS, 3DS - I plan to emulate for better display but those systems have two screen (not to comfortable when I have one CRT rotated for vertical games). Also screen with touch sensor had to be simulated with mouse. For now I use real hardware and flashcart
GameGear - i prefer to play on CRT screen rather small LCD with noticable lag and blur. Even if I have console I don't have any flashcart
I use real hardware:
C64 (s-video is ok for me)
Amiga 500, Amiga 1200
CD32/CDTV (barely used, CD32 does not have RGB, it's better to play on Amiga 1200 using WHDload)
Philips CD-i
Panasonic 3DO (s-video sadly, I hope to get RGB version someday)
Atari 130XE (s-video is ok for me)
Amstrad CPC6128
Master System, Megadrive, Sega 32X, Mega CD (but I hope to upgrade to Mega Everdrive Pro and left CD extension)
Saturn (mod), Dreamcast (mod)
GameCube, Wii
PSX (mod), PS2 (soft mod), PS3
Xbox, Xbox360
PC Engine CD (I use SSD3 actually, it emulated CD so there is no need to attach CD extension)
PC hardware - that depends. Old low res 2D games usually looks better on CRT (platform games like Turrican II, Jim Power, etc. and adventure games like Monkey Island 2, Discworld) but hires games (Syndicate, Settlers using SVGA mode, Discworld II) I prefer run on real hardware through VGA CRT either using DOSBox or straight on real hardware
Recapnation:
So many systems and no mention of the X-68000 or the PC-8801 Mk-II SR? Much better than all the Ataris and the Commodores put together, no kidding. The former should have decent emulation on MAME these days (keep in mind that not all games were lo-res, though); WIN X68k (even with Calamity's patch) had many games with flaws and lag was too high there. For the 88SR I think that both, M88 and Project X88000 are 15-kHz-friendly. M88 is discontinued but an English version is around, if I recall. The X-1 [Turbo] is also an interesting computer with the best versions of some 8-bit classics and some exclusive titles. MAME's emulation was preliminary when I checked, but I don't think there's any other valid option for 15-kHz (?). Then there's the PC-88 VA with too few games to really care, but 88VA Eternal Grafx was 15-kHz-compatible as well, for the curious. The MSX 2 [Plus] is not bad with MAME's emulation, either (and the MSX Turbo-R as well?).
--- Quote ---GameBoy Advance - i prefer to play on CRT screen rather small LCD with noticable lag even if I have GameBoy Player for Gamecube. All games are working in interlace mode with stretching which I really don't like.
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Check the Swiss project for the GCN. Never had the console so I can't tell you much, but it's sure you can use non-scaled 15-kHz progressive GBA visuals with it. Doesn't seem to be a better option in general than WIN emulators or Mister, though.
--- Quote from: donluca on September 02, 2022, 09:16:19 am ---
--- Quote from: Recapnation on August 31, 2022, 08:35:31 pm ---Donluca and 'Kaufen's replies are plain arcade-centric whereas the original poster was asking about console emulators, I'd say.
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Quite the contrary to be honest.
I was addressing more the emulation situation as a whole.
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My mistake, sorry. I think I read author names too fast that day. Too much text for a forum thread, I guess.
schmerzkaufen:
^ I focused on arcades as I explained for the sake of avoiding drifting topics and because that's the primary reason for me and people being here as GM users tbh,
and because the global issue directly related to it is that RA encouraged people using old MAME builds/cores
as well as the wrongest way to mitigate lag (run-ahead), but that's a valid criticism for other emus anyway.
Some RA users would love to minimize the issue and isolate critics, but no it's not just one or two little problems that would exist solely in the eyes of a handful of nitpicky old grouchs.
No.
The fact that they don't uderstand how RA hurts the scene of emu development and games preservation with its cores policy, nor the struggle against lag and why run-ahead's the wrong way, the implications and why that matters for fair play too, is their sin, not ours.
And yes it fckn infuriates me that they're literally invading each and every community (not an exaggeration) with RA propaganda, 'helping' people learn about it and therefore pushing the decline of more worthy emulation and preservation.
Makes me lose faith in humanity* gamers as a whole.
* That is an exaggeration here lol, yes, but realistically the mindset of libretro and the RA demographics is completely in tune with the present era's dominant 'zoomer anti-philosophy' as I'd call it, while the old guard even being technically in the right, has made sure to make its side as closed, repulsive and hostile as possible in reaction (and tbh are in part responsible for the emergence of RA even if they will never admit it). While it's not something we can just reduce to age, it's a genuine case of radically different ways of thinking and relationship to society.
I'm a realist, I said it : the war is over, the RA party and its ways largely won, and there's nothing we can do against that, it is too late for teaching and dialogue. Good emulation will only continue to live through the FPGA dev craze and a niche of subsisting MAME and other standalone emus contributors and users. A surviving niche/minority is not a success, it's a defeat ffs.
I know many heads of the niche crowd refuse to admit it, and blame only RA and kin + end users, but they didn't take action to bridge the gaps. Easy to forget a major part of RA users were MAME and other emus users at first, eh? Though these days anyway MAME don't give a rat's ass about all that and are happy in their bubble.
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