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Mike A:

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I have hope for you. You have the right attitude.
javeryh:

--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---I want to play Golden Tee on this machine.

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Is that a 3" trackball or 2-1/4"?  It looks like the smaller one but it's hard to tell since the control panel is quite large.  If you really plan to play Golden Tee, I would recommend a 3" trackball.  2-1/4" seems too small for that game but I've only ever tried a 3" ball.  I'm sure others will chime in as well.
vertexguy:

--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---Was never much into flight and gun games so I didn't even consider those from the start.... for flight games, can you just use one of the regular joysticks?  Sure it won't have the same look and feel, but it works that would be find if and when those games are ever played.

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"Regular" joysticks aren't the same thing.  The "regular" sticks you have now use microswitches.  Just picture a mini button at the bottom of the shaft being pressed when you move the stick all the way in a specific direction.  It's either on or off.  Analog sticks use potentiometers to accurately track a wide range of motion.  Many different games use those which gives you far more precise control.  Picture trying to play a racing game and trying to control your speed when all you have is a button that's either off or full throttle.  A real gas pedal is analog.  It tracks a range of motion.  If Scott chimes in I'm sure he'll provide far better detail than I can. ;)  The game list using analog sticks isn't nearly as big as microswitch 2/4/8 way games but I happen to like several of them.  I figure if you're going all out for a 4 player panel of that size that plays almost everything, if you don't know what's all out there, you might as well cover your bases so you can try them all.  Worst case you could plug the hole and remove a control you don't use.  You could also pickup a cheap usb analog flightstick for your pc just to test games too.  See if you like any that way.  There are games that aren't flight games but use analog sticks.


--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---Totally with you on the spinner.  I don't love the location.  I put it where it is now to keep it out of the trackball path.  For sure, I want to play Golden Tee on this machine.  So you've got all the different angles and I don't want to jam fingers into the spinner.  I'll have to go back and look at yours again to see where you've placed it.  Still up in the air for sure!

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I found the P2 joystick is your biggest enemy to trackball space and Golden Tee, along with anything you put directly in front of it.  My thread isn't up to date on the CP unfortunately.  Basically I just went a few more inches to the left so it sits centered above but between the P1 joystick and the left most P1 buttons in the space in between.  That gives enough room for an arm and wrist rest with the control spacing I chose.  Originally I had it sitting above the P1 buttons, thinking my arm would always be elevated when using it.  I've read a lot of threads over the years and had great advice to be mindful of not only wrist rest / arm rest space but also to think about different styles of interacting with controls.  For example, when my brother in law came over to test my cardboard CP, he interacted with the track ball in a more precise way that I hadn't considered then.  It all just translates into needing more space around them.  This is why small cramped CP's with a ton of controls would be problematic to comfortably play on.  I noticed your button spacing seems like the wider variety from the templates.  Now is the time to make sure you like that layout vs something else.  There's also no harm in customizing to fit your own hand.


--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---Good idea. I assume you are just talking about a marquee "wrap" around it with a few different ones or do you just mean 1 on the front?  I guess either would work.... maybe some LED's under edge of the CP to light it up..???  I'll think about that.

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I was just picturing a single inset marquee somewhere on the front.  Could be close to the full span of the cp, or could be a small one that's the size of the base the CP is connecting to.   Take a look at JaveryH's twin tully build thread again.  He put marquees below the CP on those and it looks great.


--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---Have you posted final pics of your artwork?  I don't recall.

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Nope, I quit working on it over a year ago to focus on the build.  If there's absolutely nothing else I can work on because of weather then I might touch it, but I'm trying to resist that trap until the build is done.
Zebidee:

--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: vertexguy on January 07, 2022, 03:51:40 pm ---Have you thought about what you're going to call it?

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Nope, haven't thought about it.  Maybe lunch box?  ;D

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Heh, I've already done a lunch box CP design. As you can see I went for a minimalist approach:




Now I feel compelled to cover that lunchbox with arcade characters ;)

Don't worry about Mike and pbj. They serve important roles here, speaking frankly and pointing out the elephants and gorillas in the room.

If you really want to go with arcade character-based art for your CP then go for it. However, cut out everything else, including marquees, game titles, side art, screenshots etc.... so that all you have left is pure arcade character art. That in itself makes it a theme, kind-of.

I also suggest that you remove any remaining characters that do not relate directly to an arcade game. This include the Southpark boys, Pikachu and that Darth Vader head (I know there are star wars games, but it doesn't look right). Maybe some others I'm not 100% sure about.

Many people take a similar "collage" approach for their first arcade build. Not many use it after that.
Shookie:

--- Quote from: javeryh on January 07, 2022, 06:48:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: Shookie on January 07, 2022, 05:32:10 pm ---I want to play Golden Tee on this machine.

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Is that a 3" trackball or 2-1/4"?  It looks like the smaller one but it's hard to tell since the control panel is quite large.  If you really plan to play Golden Tee, I would recommend a 3" trackball.  2-1/4" seems too small for that game but I've only ever tried a 3" ball.  I'm sure others will chime in as well.

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Yep, it's a 3" from Ultimarc.
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