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| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Vigo on May 18, 2020, 06:07:56 am ---I think another question to ask is why haven't there been that many great, original franchise worthy films in the last decade? John Wick comes to mind, but the list doesn't go much further. Even a mediocre, yet original franchise like the Mummy would be refreshing at this point. --- End quote --- I'd throw the MCU in there as an example of modern franchise building. In fact, the MCU stands out to me as highly remarkable given the average quality level of those films. Even movies like Ant-Man or Thor are far better than they have any right to be. |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Vigo on May 18, 2020, 02:32:37 am ---The ones that usually break the mold are made from outside Hollywood. Dredd was British, I think. Rambo, along with the other Stallone stuff like Creed and expendables, I believe that if it were not for Stallone being in the drivers seat pushing those movies, they would be dead in the water or terrible reboots at this point. I think Stallone produced a lot of that with overseas production companies as well. --- End quote --- Certainly there are circumstances leading to why Dredd and Rambo seemed to be better follow-ups than many others. Though by the same token, Ridley Scott came back for Prometheus and Alien: Covenant, but those films were let down by awful scripts. Likewise, James Cameron, Arnie and Linda Hamilton all came back for Terminator: Dark Fate, but they still couldn't recapture the magic of the original Terminator and T2. |
| nitrogen_widget:
Jurassic Park did it. sort of. Same world, just decades later with new characters. Same thing with Blade runner. I think replacing the actor in the batman movies worked for me because I had no attachment to the actor's. Bruce Wayne and batman are Bruce Wayne and batman. there really isn't a whole lot of depth to either character and as an actor you are pidgin-holed into playing the part a certain way. Last terminator I saw had old arnie's head on some muscled body and young arnies head on the same muscled body and it was just weird as heck. At some point I think you have to let some franchises Rest in Peace. |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 18, 2020, 12:53:27 pm ---Well that one is easy to answer. Say you are a studio head and this amazing script comes across your desk. It could make you millions... key word there is "could". Meanwhile some schlocks want to resurrect one of your mega blockbusters from days past. You know from market research that just having the name of the franchise slapped across a poster is going to make you millions. As the studio head of what is now a large corporate conglomerate, your job is to make money, not great films. Which one would you green light? --- End quote --- Statistically speaking, I'd think they could at least make one decent new film just by pure fluke. :-\ |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: fallacy on May 18, 2020, 02:45:57 am ---I am more about taking these movie concepts and instead of just making another same length movie of what's already perfect turn it into a 12 episode series and add a lot more to it with that extra time. It will also give us the necessary amount of time letting the new actors ease into the role. Dusk Till Dawn is a good example, the first season copies beat for beat the movie but they added enough other little things that it was still just as interesting. --- End quote --- Terminator had the Sarah Connor Chronicles series. It was actually decent, but unfortunately got canned and ended on a cliffhanger. It would be nice to see a modern series based on some of these franchises, made for streaming (so no PG/PG-13 level crap). |
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