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Aliens, Terminator, Robocop, Predator franchises... why no new good films?
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Howard_Casto:
SCC was better than it had any right to be.  Unfortunately the idgits that created it were stupid enough to sell it to fox.  I don't think fox has ever let a sci-fi show end properly, unless you count that rushed final bit of dollhouse. 

Producers need to look at projects like the Mandalorian.  It's barely set in the Star Wars universe, so if it was bad no big deal, but since it's good they can draw in viewers on both word of mouth and brand recognition and compared to the SW films, it's a much cheaper project to fund.  While you would be hard pressed to do a spin-off series in the Robocop or Terminator universe, there is a lot of leeway with franchises like Alien and Predator. 
pbj:
I liked the Riddick movies but apparently stand nearly alone on that.

We enjoyed Terminator Dark Fate.  First 5 minutes is worth a watch if nothing else.

Vigo:

--- Quote from: shponglefan on May 18, 2020, 01:31:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vigo on May 18, 2020, 06:07:56 am ---I think another question to ask is why haven't there been that many great, original franchise worthy films in the last decade? John Wick comes to mind, but the list doesn't go much further. Even a mediocre, yet original franchise like the Mummy would be refreshing at this point.

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I'd throw the MCU in there as an example of modern franchise building. In fact, the MCU stands out to me as highly remarkable given the average quality level of those films.

Even movies like Ant-Man or Thor are far better than they have any right to be.

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By original, I do mean original. Not a movie adaptation of something that already exists. Picking a marvel hero and rewriting a story arc is precisely why the MCU films are usually great. They are digging into pulp comic lore from decades ago from artists and writers who generally answered mail from fans every issue, so they knew their audience well.

Really, the Comic film studios  are lucky that their creators generally care more about their stories being told than nitpicking over being true to the source material.  just about every film has taken massive creative licenses. It’s really works out. Don’t know why DC tends to biff it constantly.

The franchises already mentioned - Terminator, Predator, Rocky, Alien, Robocop, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Rambo, Ghostbusters, Rocky, Goonies, as far as I know are all original to their films. Those kind of original ideas are sorely missed from movies, especially blockbuster films. CGI films are the only ones out there with some expectations around originality, even if they tend to all follow the same recipe.
Vigo:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 19, 2020, 06:30:26 pm ---Producers need to look at projects like the Mandalorian.  It's barely set in the Star Wars universe, so if it was bad no big deal, but since it's good they can draw in viewers on both word of mouth and brand recognition and compared to the SW films, it's a much cheaper project to fund.  While you would be hard pressed to do a spin-off series in the Robocop or Terminator universe, there is a lot of leeway with franchises like Alien and Predator.

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Agree. And although Prometheus had issues, it was a bit of a defining film in that’s showed  the Alien franchise could really be explored in a very different direction.
pbj:
Rocky was based on Chuck Wepner.

Rambo was a book.

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