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nitrogen_widget:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 12, 2024, 02:52:05 am ---Latest hurdle I can't blame on the kit manufacturer. The authorities have never heard of the brand of propeller I'm using and are giving us a hard time. I mean, they COULD google it if they liked

http://www.p-propeller.co.za/

It's a good indication of how innovation has fallen behind in Australia...

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is yours made of wood?
Zebidee:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 14, 2024, 06:30:41 am ---I meant there is a distinct lack of encouragement of innovation.

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That's right and I agree. Maybe better than most!


--- Quote ---All people in all countries innovate. Some encourage it more than others. Anyway, I'm going to get the propeller manufacturer to send the bureaucrats a dissertation, plus list things like their star sign and favourite beer. Hopefully that gets me over the line...

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lol, I fully understand and appreciate. I've always been on the innovators side.

I formerly worked as one of the bureaurocrats who might have been reading, analysing and prepping briefing/responses to your correspondence ("ministerials", if addressed to the minister). For a couple of decades at all kinds of levels, mostly towards science education and innovation policy community/industry development work. Ultimately high level stuff, though not for aviation, but in other areas like general science, IT and digital economy. Apart from the technicals, is all the same though.

Responding to "ministerials" was generally considered a chore, to be farmed out. Just like washing dishes, everyone got their share. It was very rare that such correspondence, on its own, resulted in any significant action. A well targeted ministerial might be enough to get a propeller cleared past regulations, with some other work, but you need more than this to get anything significant done.

So summary is, the beers (or some coffees) can help :D  Getting bureaucrats onside isn't the endgame, but sure can help grease the wheels. When they see your correspondence they'll know what to do with it, and any appropriate recommendations to make to decision makers. I've had many great free lunches in service of a better understanding of emerging technologies and social and industry development needs    :cheers:

All joking aside, forwarding them that link might help, but I'm guessing you've done that already  http://www.p-propeller.co.za/
danny_galaga:
Oh yes, I re-watch Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister from time to time. Apparently it's a pretty good insight into how bureaucracy works 😄

It is curious though that the organisation responsible for my aircraft, who aren't a government organisation, seem to be filled with in-curious types. If I wss in that position and saw a propeller brand I'd never heard of, out of my own interest in the subject I'd google it. But then again,I've lost interest in my own project so I can't really be upset if others aren't ecstatic about it 😄
danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: nitrogen_widget on December 14, 2024, 02:24:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 12, 2024, 02:52:05 am ---Latest hurdle I can't blame on the kit manufacturer. The authorities have never heard of the brand of propeller I'm using and are giving us a hard time. I mean, they COULD google it if they liked

http://www.p-propeller.co.za/

It's a good indication of how innovation has fallen behind in Australia...

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is yours made of wood?

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Yes. I bought it because it looks so pretty in a clear finish ☺️. Funnily enough, if I bought a propeller from one of the biggest manufacturers - Sensenich, for this size it would also be made of wood, but it's painted so you wouldn't know. Or should I say you WOODEN know 😃
Zebidee:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 15, 2024, 08:09:04 pm ---Oh yes, I re-watch Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister from time to time. Apparently it's a pretty good insight into how bureaucracy works 😄

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Essential viewing for all graduate trainees :D

Most of us would cheer on Bernard. His look of bewilderment is quite familiar lol.



--- Quote ---It is curious though that the organisation responsible for my aircraft, who aren't a government organisation, seem to be filled with in-curious types. If I wss in that position and saw a propeller brand I'd never heard of, out of my own interest in the subject I'd google it. But then again,I've lost interest in my own project so I can't really be upset if others aren't ecstatic about it 😄

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Government's don't have a monopoly on dull folk, administrators are rarely adventurers, and a job is a job. Bet few of the admin staff even own a plane. This might be a good thing - you probably don't want people with strong imaginations in relatively boring jobs.
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