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Howard_Casto:
No they had pads man. You know, like what inspired the ipad? They also had view screens, like a modern day monitor. That's because those two techs are extremely practical. As for communication, the only time they showed a holographic communication was during an episode of DS9.... it was an experimental system installed on the defiant. Everyone pretty much dismissed it as impractical by the end of the episode. Now Tasha gave Data a little holographic projection of herself, but that was a little desktop what-not... something you could probably replicate with present day tech. Honestly if Discovery wasn't doing it I wouldn't have as big a problem with it, but they are basically trying to re-write canon saying that they always had communication holograms, which makes the 1000 or so times they used view screens and the zero times they used holograms as communication on the various shows seem kind of odd.

shponglefan:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on February 10, 2020, 01:14:03 am ---No they had pads man. You know, like what inspired the ipad? They also had view screens, like a modern day monitor. That's because those two techs are extremely practical. As for communication, the only time they showed a holographic communication was during an episode of DS9.... it was an experimental system installed on the defiant. Everyone pretty much dismissed it as impractical by the end of the episode. Now Tasha gave Data a little holographic projection of herself, but that was a little desktop what-not... something you could probably replicate with present day tech. Honestly if Discovery wasn't doing it I wouldn't have as big a problem with it, but they are basically trying to re-write canon saying that they always had communication holograms, which makes the 1000 or so times they used view screens and the zero times they used holograms as communication on the various shows seem kind of odd.

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There were more examples of hologram technology in TNG than just the Tasha thing. Like I said, if they'd had the budget for it, it probably would have been far more commonplace in TNG.

You can see a bunch of examples in this video:

On a related note, they also used perspective correct images on viewscreens, suggesting the images on them were in fact fully 3D and not just 2D displays.

Howard_Casto:
I think you misunderstand. It's not that the technology wasn't available, it's that they didn't use it. They have the frikkin holodeck, of course they can make holographic projections. the point is other than the DS9 episode it was never used for communication once in 50 years. Keep in mind that Kurtzman is trying to retcon TOS to have holograms as well and they definitely didn't use the tech back then. Like I said, holographic what-nots and do-dads sure, but not magical holograms that you can walk through and yet they touch your cheek or can sit on a desk on your end of the communication, which makes zero sense.

Holograms are a Star Wars thing, because they only make sense to use if you don't think about it... just like Star Wars. People need to quit trying to make Star Trek into Star Wars.... JJ already tried it and their reboot, while popular, burned out after only three films because all spectacle and no substance doesn't work for Star Trek. If you are going to ret-con something into Star Trek you better have a good reason and the "because it looks cool" reason only successfully worked for the redesign of the Klingons... the first time, not the new turd monsters.

leapinlew:
Summary up to this point

Howard_Casto:
Yeah kind of sad they wasted three episodes out of ten just for exposition and crew assemblage. I guess they had to slow it down for the normies to be able to follow. Meanwhile I've got seven seasons of voyager floating around in my head and I'm at bated breath wondering if Chakotay and Seven got married since the finale. (I'm kidding.... dear god I'm kidding.) Ugh I've typed out the worst possible idea... I think when that happens Kurtzman appears in your mirror and writes up the script.

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