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Howard_Casto:
So the first episode of Picard is out. It's a mixed bag but I'm hopeful. I don't really think any of this would be considered a spoiler as it's prologue and you find out about most of it in the first five minutes... but fair warning.

Ok let's get the bad stuff out of the way. The plague that is Kurtzman is at it again, busting up canon left and right. See when Starfleet figured out that Romulus was going to explode (See the crappy JJ Abrams movie) now Admiral Picard headed an effort to save all the Romulans via building a massive fleet of ships on Mars and then going to rescue them. Sometime during this process, the synthetics (aka androids) working on Mars mysteriously attacked, killing 100k people and scrapping the mission, which caused Picard to resign as the federation refused to try and help the Romulans after that. Ok full stop. Remember how on numerous occasions on tng and later movies, including the last damn movie where Data says that he, along with his brothers, are the only androids in Starfleet and the only life forms of their kind known? Yeah so where do all the other robots come from? Hopefully this is the only huge thing they ---fudgesicle--- up. I mean it's made clear in Voyager, DS9 and subsequent series that the future of artificial life is in hologram programs... why limit your AI to one physical form that can easily be destroyed?

Anyway, that caused Starfleet to put a ban on the creation of more androids, which of course haunts Picard as that truly kills Data since he'll never have kin ("Before" is dead and in a shelf btw) but surprise, surprise, that mysterious girl from the previews that is clearly Data's daughter turns out to be.... gasp.... Data's daughter. The plot is convoluted as hell but it gets us to the good part, which is Picard is now headed towards a mission involving complex moral questions with the potential fate of a being or maybe race of beings hanging in the balance. You know, Star Trek TNG at it's best. The visuals are a mixed bag. The show looks warm and inviting compared to the grim-dark fest that is Discovery. The only issue is virtually any space scene or scene that would have involved those beautiful matte paintings back in the day is cgi… and for the most part the cgi is bad. They have an interior shot of 10 forward and it looks worse than a video game from the 90s. They need to throw this show some of Discovery's budget.

So to summarize, brilliant acting, inviting visuals, good emotional core, which I suppose is the important stuff, but bad everything else.

leapinlew:
Timeline is going to get a little tricky, but, is it possible that Data doesn't know about the synthetics? The latest Rick and Morty when they had to assemble a crew has sort of ruined me on the movies that have to assemble a crew. It seems that is where this is headed.

I liked it. Enjoy the universe so far. Be interested to see how they handle some things. I'll keep watching.

Howard_Casto:
Considering they were apparently working in the most famous ship yard in Starfleet I don't see how. I watched it a second time and I liked it a bit more. Something of note is that in Picard's archive room he had a bat'leth (probably gifted to him during one of his diplomatic interactions with the Klingons in tng) and it wasn't one of those overly ornate messes that they have on Discovery. I sincerely hope that means if Klingons ever show up on this show they'll be real Klingons and not the awful turd monsters. Also the girl looked a lot like Lull. Subtle stuff like that makes me think the script writers are at least familiar with the source material, which is good.

leapinlew:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 26, 2020, 01:05:37 am ---real Klingons and not the awful turd monsters.

--- End quote ---

lol!

The Klingons are so bad on Discovery. They can't even speak they have so much gunk on their face.

Vigo:
Watched it last night. Decent first episode. :cheers:

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