Mamehooker Settings For positional gun recoils (Steel Gunner Hammer Guns)

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Zebra:
It looks like the frequency is too high for your solenoid in that second video. That's what happens when the solenoid gets reactivated before it has traveled all the way back. A stronger spring may help but could cause problems on other games. Have you oiled the solenoid piston? That helps too.

My suggestion is to set it up to recoil at the same speed for every game. I.e. Make it how you like it instead of trying the impossible task of recreating the feel of the original arcade gun's recoil for every game with a single gun. A large portion used a motor instead of a solenoid.

I don't use mame hooker but if it lets you copy a recoil frequency and use it for every game, that would be the way to go. Ideally, you would be able to set it to recoil when you pull the trigger, not just when hooks are available. I achieve this with a $7 Ne555 board off ebay like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NE555-Pulse-Frequency-Duty-Cycle-Square-Rectangular-Wave-Signal-Generator-MoNJH/114063259273?epid=1881291624&hash=item1a8eb33689:g:XU0AAOSwJshc~z9G

It let's you set it up once how you like it and then not worry about it again.

There are tons of games that benefit from recoil even if the original arcade didn't have it. Try playing Afterburner with your gun. Recoil will make it feel like a whole new game.

Howard_Casto:
Eh, you can't really adjust the frequency, you can merely fudge it a little with wait commands. A constant on/off can of course be adjusted, but something that's already strobing on and off is difficult to manipulate It's pretty easy to make it slower, but making it faster is impossible.

You can use the keystate detection option to have something fire off whenever a keyboard key or mouse button is held, but it isn't really setup for dual guns or joysticks unfortunately. Troubleshooter is supposed to be the solution for that, and yes, a person could write a troubleshooter config for a mame game in theory.

Zebra:
This is why I prefer to use the ne555 board for full auto recoil. If I want it faster or to recoil more or less often, I just turn one of the pots on the board. It's infinitely adjustable. Obviously there is a natural upper limit because once it gets above 45-50hz then it doesn't have time for the solenoid piston to get back before being activated again.

The Aimforce dongle allows variable recoil speed on a game by game basis. You just select the game in the app, choose full auto recoil and adjust the slider until it gets to the speed you want. It let's you do this either in conjunction with the hooks from mame, or independent of hooks so it works with games that had no recoil.

Being able to increase or decrease the recoil frequency is necessary to get good results for all games with a single gun's recoil mechanism.

Howard_Casto:
It's not necessary and you get better feedback with full game control, but you do you man.

frankrizzo2:
Thanks for the information guys. It's helping me get through some of this. I will work on it tmw when I have time and if I have anymore questions I'll be sure to ask.

Is there a certain language that these scripts are written in so that I can research commands on my own? It's a skill that I am trying to get better at understanding anyways and I would love to contribute more in the future on some of this stuff too.

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