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Malenko:
Not being able to see what was going on is what had me playing MK11 on mute with my back to the TV for the majority of the episode. I saw just as much watching as I did just listening.
You call it artistic vision, I call it irritated viewership.

I get that Arya was quoting Jon from when she first got Needler , I'm saying Sansa is less useful than an 11 yr old girl.

Notable things the main character Sansa did:
got married a few times with little to no impact.
got raped by Ramsey and later got Ramsey eaten by his own dogs.

Notable things the side character Samwell Tarley did:
Enlisted in the Night's Watch
Outsmarted Mallister and Cotter to get Jon elected Lord Commander
First to kill a White Walker
Rescues Gilly and her baby Sam, and gets them to safety on the other side of the wall
finds a "cure" for Grey Scale
researched the weaknesses of the white walkers.
told jon that Bran was alive, and later told Jon that he was a Targaryen

Everyone in the family went through something and came out the other side changed. Robb became dead and even then it was Arya that avenged him in a bad ass way and not Sansa.
opt2not:
It’s not a theory.
Micheal Bay movies, Star Trek Discovery, the Last Jedi...they’re all in the same pandering action-based category. Light on making sense, light on characters taking actions that are consistent...just turn your brain off, sit back and enjoy an amusement park ride.
And that’s normally fine. But Game of thrones has always been more cerebral, till the material ran out. Notice how they’re playing it safe now with killing of secondary or tertiary characters you don’t really care about?

Look, I’ve explained why I felt disappointed with this episode, and why it doesn’t hold a candle to LOTR’s Battle if Helms Deep, or any of the other Battles in the previous seasons.

One just shouldn’t get angry because others have a difference in personal preference.
Howard_Casto:
The true sign of something being artistically relevant is that not everyone likes it.  Everyone likes those damn Avengers movies and they are bland as ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  I mean they are a decent watch, but not 1 billion dollars good.  If everyone had liked the episode it would probably mean that it was fairly generic and therefore a terrible end to the arc.  Sorry you didn't like it, but I did and so did many others did so it isn't poorly done, you just didn't like it.  And that's ok and you are entitled to your own opinion.

Just don't act like this is on me.  I started the thread, you didn't have to make your opinion known especially if you feel like I would have reacted like you are accusing me of doing.  You still don't seem to get that you are the one that always starts stuff.
opt2not:
Listen, I don’t tip toe around the eggshells of your ego. You put out a statement in the second sentence of your opening post that was goading to be challenged. The Two Towers Battle, the previous battles in this show are all better, period. This episode didn’t even come close to dethroning those scenes.

Saying that I didn’t need to engage your statement because you’d react poorly is ridiculous. I don’t cater my posts around your emotional state. Sorry. 
opt2not:

--- Quote from: Malenko on April 29, 2019, 03:54:43 pm ---Not being able to see what was going on is what had me playing MK11 on mute with my back to the TV for the majority of the episode. I saw just as much watching as I did just listening.
You call it artistic vision, I call it irritated viewership.

--- End quote ---
Spot on.


--- Quote from: Malenko on April 29, 2019, 03:54:43 pm ---I get that Arya was quoting Jon from when she first got Needler , I'm saying Sansa is less useful than an 11 yr old girl.

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Exactly. They really missed an opportunity for her to actually do “something”. And I thought she would have, especially after that Therion speech about the thinkers and little guys  making a difference in a battle.
Sansa could have had a real moment of selflessness and honour by attempting to defend zombies off in the crypt...but instead they wrote her as a secondary in that whole scene. She really didn’t need to be there.
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