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Rockstead:
This has to be the most in-depth unbiased technical review and tear-down of a Siden yet, I would have wanted this guy involved in my Production design and beta testing, I’m surprised Andy didn’t.

It doesn’t change the fact that the Sinden is the best choice, but does reveal on how some aspects are not perfect.

Titchgamer:
Ide say that was a very fair review.
I agree with him about the blocky handle and the dpad thing.
I also said the same things when I first got mine, IMO the grey prototype he had was much nicer to hold.

Wouldn't agree with the comment about it being no better than the AT though.
I mean he is right in terms of the latency being the same its a USB mouse at the end of the day so wont be bugger all in it but the difference in accuracy is substantial.

Rockstead:

--- Quote from: Titchgamer on March 02, 2021, 01:48:06 pm ---Ide say that was a very fair review.
I agree with him about the blocky handle and the dpad thing.
I also said the same things when I first got mine, IMO the grey prototype he had was much nicer to hold.

Wouldn't agree with the comment about it being no better than the AT though.
I mean he is right in terms of the latency being the same its a USB mouse at the end of the day so wont be bugger all in it but the difference in accuracy is substantial.

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Don’t worry, you’re still my favourite gun guy on this forum :)

Are you aware if Andy has resolved any of the issues? Namely the quality of the exterior finish, but most importantly on the issue with the trigger and what the reviewer did to resolve it, like is this a factory assembly error? I’m not worried because it can easily be fixed but Andy should get that done at assembly time and I know he’s very open to improving anything, actually he’s too nice based on some of the disgruntled buyers on the indiegogo, I really hope this week goes as well at the factory as he had planned since he had said they will increase the workers by 2 or 3 times, I would plant myself at the factory this week if I were him.

He also talked about the recoil issue when holding the trigger for automatic fire but I think he said it could be addressed through software and then there was all that talk about crt but it didn’t hold my interest.

I asked him to add a table of contents to the video (which he did) I kept having to re-watch it because I can never remember at which point he said what, I was trying to find what you referenced about the AimTrak, I didn’t recall it because in his comment section he does say the Gun4IR is his favourite but that both the Sinden and it can achieve pinpoint accuracy.

I also didn’t realize the Gun4IR was such a worthy alternative, even better according to the reviewer, but I’m far from a DIY person, so I prefer a commercial product but it’s nice to know there will be a worthy competitor and more commercial like options coming for the Gun4IR, it will ensure Andy stays innovative.

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--- Quote from: Rockstead on March 02, 2021, 06:18:09 am ---This has to be the most in-depth unbiased technical review and tear-down of a Siden yet, I would have wanted this guy involved in my Production design and beta testing, I’m surprised Andy didn’t.

It doesn’t change the fact that the Sinden is the best choice, but does reveal on how some aspects are not perfect.

--- End quote ---
Great review! Besides the comment that Titchgamer made, I noticed one other minor issue with the review, which I've posted in the review comments. In his brief mention of projectors, he compares his Hitachi projector working fine to the fact that "LED" projectors aren't recommended. He's confusing "LED" projectors with "LCD" projectors. LED projectors are super-cheap projectors that use an LED as the light source. It's not about how the picture is created (the LCD panel that light shows through).

I also noticed his mention of Gun4IR, which I also just recently discovered. I honestly wish these two had hooked up at some point. I like the idea of the Sinden being a finished product I can just buy, but I like the idea of the IR emitters and no white borders on the screen. At it's core, they basically both use the same idea, the geometry of the screen, they just use different means of defining the screen borders.

Titchgamer:

--- Quote from: Rockstead on March 02, 2021, 02:11:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Titchgamer on March 02, 2021, 01:48:06 pm ---Ide say that was a very fair review.
I agree with him about the blocky handle and the dpad thing.
I also said the same things when I first got mine, IMO the grey prototype he had was much nicer to hold.

Wouldn't agree with the comment about it being no better than the AT though.
I mean he is right in terms of the latency being the same its a USB mouse at the end of the day so wont be bugger all in it but the difference in accuracy is substantial.

--- End quote ---

Don’t worry, you’re still my favourite gun guy on this forum :)

Are you aware if Andy has resolved any of the issues? Namely the quality of the exterior finish, but most importantly on the issue with the trigger and what the reviewer did to resolve it, like is this a factory assembly error? I’m not worried because it can easily be fixed but Andy should get that done at assembly time and I know he’s very open to improving anything, actually he’s too nice based on some of the disgruntled buyers on the indiegogo, I really hope this week goes as well at the factory as he had planned since he had said they will increase the workers by 2 or 3 times, I would plant myself at the factory this week if I were him.

He also talked about the recoil issue when holding the trigger for automatic fire but I think he said it could be addressed through software and then there was all that talk about crt but it didn’t hold my interest.

I asked him to add a table of contents to the video (which he did) I kept having to re-watch it because I can never remember at which point he said what, I was trying to find what you referenced about the AimTrak, I didn’t recall it because in his comment section he does say the Gun4IR is his favourite but that both the Sinden and it can achieve pinpoint accuracy.

I also didn’t realize the Gun4IR was such a worthy alternative, even better according to the reviewer, but I’m far from a DIY person, so I prefer a commercial product but it’s nice to know there will be a worthy competitor and more commercial like options coming for the Gun4IR, it will ensure Andy stays innovative.

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Well ile start with the recoil issue.

Its likely Andy will be able to smoothe it out in future with firmware but what people need to remember about the recoil is its USB powered.
It does not have a external power source so its limited by how fast the cap can chsrge inbetween shots.

Thats why he made it adjustable so if you want full kick you have to slow down the ROF.
If you want fast ROF reduce the kick.

As for the trigger tightness issue that seems to be caused by the moulding process it does not happen to all units and 95% of the ones that do have it loosening the screws off 1/4 turn fixes it.

I dont think adding a little grease in there is a bad idea but looked like he added to much grease IMO.
Grease is a less is more kind of thing.

Sadly those thats not likely something to get fixed any time soon as to have moulds adjusted is costly but obv thats Andys choice.

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