Arcade Collecting > Arcade1Up & Similar
Could the Arcade 1up thing have been succesful if handled differently?
Howard_Casto:
As others have stated, I'm beginning to think that the "3/4" size has more to do with licensing and legal issues than anything. Take pac-man for example.... they still put pac-man on brand new arcade cabinets and I'm guessing someone purchased the license to make them rather than Namco doing it themselves. That means that said license is taken...for an arcade machine.... now for a toy on the other hand....that's fair game. You'd be amazed how companies jump through hoops to work around certain legal restrictions.
yotsuya:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on February 26, 2019, 07:50:24 pm ---As others have stated, I'm beginning to think that the "3/4" size has more to do with licensing and legal issues than anything. Take pac-man for example.... they still put pac-man on brand new arcade cabinets and I'm guessing someone purchased the license to make them rather than Namco doing it themselves. That means that said license is taken...for an arcade machine.... now for a toy on the other hand....that's fair game. You'd be amazed how companies jump through hoops to work around certain legal restrictions.
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MikeyJ122:
I would call them a failure, quite the opposite really... I would say they are a huge success, at least finicially. That doesnt mean I support them, but I dont hate them either.
As I've said in other threads, the biggest "issue" I have with arcade 1ups is the fan base itself. Why? Because I really dont understand it, it just doesnt make sense to me. Let me elaborate...
I have been following the arcade 1up community rather closely (I watch youtubers that only talk about them and am in the FB group). They have developed a "us vs them" approach, perhaps MAME builders have propagated that as well?
Anyways, I just watch a video where one of these arcade 1 up youtubers bought a gameroom solutions kit. He actually really liked it and called it a "level up from arcade 1 up." He would NOT say it was better than arcade 1 up, but you could tell he liked it better. He just said things like "both are really good options." In the comment section though... I read TONS of comments like this "I like arcade 1 up better" "I'll only buy arcade 1 up" etc. So they have developed a pretty loyal fanbase, and that's what I dont understand? For casual gamers, sure I get it. But for people to buy ALL of them, mod them, etc. You are spending a lot of money for an inferior product. You can buy a kit for the same price, and itll be WAY better. That's what I dont understand.
Osirus23:
They do have a bizarre cult following. The first time I saw one in person I would have done a spit-take had I been drinking something when I saw how tiny they were.
Gilrock:
Unfortunately it seems like any time a product comes out commercially the quality is sacrificed for cost and/or they get crushed by trying to compete with Chinese knockoffs. I saw it happen a few times in my other hobby of Christmas lighting. I met a guy at an Expo that had a product that let people put a series of smart leds on tree and the sequencing was delivered over Bluetooth and he had a patent for his idea. You can see his stuff at geekmytree.com. I know he was featured on Shark Tank but I can't remember if he got backing or not. Anyways once he expanded commercially to keep the cost down they switched from smart pixels to dumb pixels so instead of every pixel being controllable it ended up with the entire string had to be one color so only one control chip at the top of each string to save on parts cost. Then he started getting hit with lawsuits from patent trolls claiming they had rights to simple aspects of the design like using data commands to turn on an LED. He ended up going out of business. The DIY community was disappointed in the product because after switching to dumb pixels they were not as useful for hacking purposes. Second product I can think of is Really Big Lights. These things were really popular and sold like crazy for a year or two and next thing you know Home Depot is selling a lower quality copy of the product so they ended up going out of business. Both these products seemed like a huge success the first year or two. I'll be curious to see where Arcade1Up stands in 3 years. I don't understand anything about what version of MAME they used to run these things but arguing that they didn't do anything wrong because they aren't in court yet is stupid. Again in the Christmas lighting world I've seen one vendor flat out steal another vendors design and have it copied in China and the folks impacted were smaller players and did not have the resources to fight them in court. Doesn't mean they are legit because they weren't sued.
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