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New Lightgun Testing - What would you like to see?
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Titchgamer:

--- Quote from: markc74 on November 10, 2018, 06:32:09 pm ---Sounds very positive. I do like my aim traks even though they're nowhere near as accurate/easy to use as my act labs were (I was a fool for selling them) 

Is this not something he could get help from ultimarc/ggg from? Those guys must have some of the knowledge/backing that he needs to bring these to market?

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Yeah I really like my AT's (no secret there) But using the Sinden gun today really did blow them out of the water in terms of performance.
Playing the sega sports game the way I did would of been damn near impossible with the AT's I think due to the accuracy that was required over the distance. It was basically speed target shooting which I have not done for some time and made me realize how out of practice I am LMAO.
Admittedly I only got to play through that twice, Once just to see how the game worked and once I recorded the screen capture.
But also as I mentioned earlier my arms were like jelly by that point, I did a video of be playing point black with the cam strapped to my wrist, its a terrible video tbh but you can really see how much I was shaking by that point! I will prob post that up the next few days just for a laugh!

As for the other companys, Not sure, Guess its a case of how open they would be to a collaboration?

I just shoot them got no business skills LOL
markc74:
If they're as good as you say they are then hopefully the next Kickstarter will get further. Just seems like he needs a fair amount of cash injection to get these thinks through prototyping and marketable. A good light gun that just works is probably the last remaining controller that hasn't been perfected so you would think it would do well. There's certainly a lot more light gun games then there are trackball/spinner and people seem willing to spend ££ on those.

I truly wish the guy well and hope he can pull if off. If it makes it to production then I'll buy one. Make it work with recoil and wireless and I'll empty my bank account.
Howard_Casto:
Personally, I think to reduce cost and speed up release time I would be ok with just a pcb that we can put into a shell of our own choosing.  Making it wiimote-size would be best so all of those cheap wiimote gun shells could be put to good use.  As for recoil, an output line that could power a relay or ect.  would be fine with me.  Xinput, Force Feedback, even serial.... mamehooker supports it so the software end is already taken care of. 
Titchgamer:
Yeah originally his kick starter included the money for development and production.
Obviously since then he has taken the development costs on himself.

The recoil thing although easy to do in terms of wiring and software in practice I think is quite difficult to pull it off well.

From my experience there are 3 basic types:

Rumble motor style
Blow back style
Solenoid style

Each have pros and cons but IMO the rumble motors are not really recoil, The blow back style have always been naff and prone to break.
The best feeling one is the solenoid but thats also the one that tends to suffer most from heat issues.

We had a pretty decent convo about it, And I got the impression that he really wants to include it but not at the expense of the product in general.
He also wants to make sure it feels right.
BadMouth:
Arcadeguns.com had shells made for the Aim-Traks and sold them as complete guns before Ultimarc did.  They could probably be partnered with if he didn't want to worry with having shells manufactured.

If he does another Kickstarter, it needs to do a much better job showing how well the guns function.  Video of him sitting on a couch or screen capture of gameplay doesn't show the product working.

Does the bullet go exactly where the gun sights are pointed regardless of how tall/short the player is or whether they move a foot or two off center while playing?  That is the question.

The other question is if Ultimarc will release the more accurate dual sensor bar firmware they already sell for commercial use as soon as this gun hits the market?
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