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| DrakeTungsten:
--- Quote from: Vigo on August 16, 2018, 01:13:21 pm --- --- Quote from: shponglefan on August 15, 2018, 05:08:59 pm ---They gave credence to the concept of intelligent design and undercut the science of biological evolution in the most unnecessary Star Trek episode ever. --- End quote --- :laugh2: I love how that seemingly offends you, being that Star Trek upends current limited scientific knowledge on a regular basis, and science is meant to be upended. --- End quote --- Your last phrase is kinda true in a general sense, but if you're specifically suggesting that the theory of evolution is just as likely to be "upended" as any dawn-of-science, virtually untested hypotheses which were disproven once they were investigated in earnest, then you are 100% wrong. |
| Howard_Casto:
Actually Star Trek's alien races are quite inaccurate. Ask any exobiologist… the odds of multiple races that all look basically the same and yet come from different planets with different flora and fauna, not to mention differences in gravity and ect. is quite low. Regardless, that particular episode does NOT go against the theory of evolution but rather supports it. Remember Darwin and all of those birds with their widely different adaptations on similar islands? Yeah in this case the "birds" are a common humanoid ancestor and the "islands" are various M-Class planets in the galaxy. Remember, those strange aliens weren't a fictional god, but rather a different alien species. Read what Vigo said... panspermia has some merit even if it is unlikely. |
| DrakeTungsten:
I was pretty sure exactly this would happen... At that point in the post, vigo was addressing the idea that even if ST "upended" evolution, then etc... That is what I responded to. Even then, I was clear that I was factoring ST out of the question, as he appeared to do as well. This is independent of his later idea of "by the way, that episode wasn't really about intelligent design." I wasn't talking about that part at all. I'm not much of a ST fan, but as a comics and science geek, the preponderence of humanoid life forms has always bugged me. I've tried to justify this in my head-canon, but ID is really the only answer, and I say this as an atheist. But ID doesn't have to have the same implications in a fantasy world that it does IRL. It doesn't even have to be supernatural. |
| DrakeTungsten:
--- Quote ---Yeah in this case the "birds" are a common humanoid ancestor and the "islands" are various M-Class planets --- End quote --- Depending on the details, this explanation has the potential to be very stupid, or the best play they could make with a bad hand (other than hand-waving, which is sometimes the best option) Is this supposed to include accounting for humans being humanoid? |
| Malenko:
The preponderance of humanoid aliens wasn't because its easy to just put a human actor in make up for a TV show? |
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