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Malenko:
so I'm the only one who was irritated the First order had the last of the resistance pinned, literally down to a few escape pods and they never called in more ships? This is compounded by the fact the last part of the "chase" supposedly took place over like 18 hours so there was ample time for more ships to show up.

I didn't hate this movie, but I liked Rogue One and Force Awakens much more.

Vigo:
I honestly think that the internet is ruining movies.

I can't imagine that many here would feel so great about the plot of the original trilogy if the movies came out today. Let's just take the most beloved, Empire. Empire makes zero sense why Vader's brilliant play is to create a convoluted plan to assume Luke would become a powerful enough Jedi to sense his friends in danger, and use that assumption to lure Luke across the galaxy to get him to walk over a trap door. A trap door that a jedi of any decency can hop out of.

The Millenium Falcon, the ship Vader is so desperate to obtain, is left intentionally unguarded, so to let the leader of the rebellion, Leia, can run away in it. Don't worry, good ol' Darth has has a brilliant plan too. He turned off the warp drive, it's cool. It only needed to be switched back on, but those Rebels will never figure that one out. Leia is a top leader of the rebellion so letting her almost escape seems like the smartest route to go. And hey, you tested that carbonite machine once, why even bother using it to imprison Leia, that will take an extra 5 minutes.

And speaking of carbonite, what does Vader do with Han? He gives him away to some outskirts bounty hunter and leaves him unchecked, Vader, the guy who chokes people to death because they irritate him, has no grudge against the dude who knocked him out of the sky and let Luke fly in to destroy the death star? Naw, just let him go. And heck, after Luke, Chewie and Leia escape Vader's clutches, there is no worry they will go back and rescue him, right? I mean, the rebellion threatens the galactic empire, but pulling him out of a remote desert palace seems like just too risky of an effort. ::)

I get that The Last Jedi didn't exhibit full character continuity or show smart and savvy space battle tactics. That irritated me as well, but at some point you gotta admit that these movies are being held to a pretty unfair standard. I let my guard down on these movies intentionally and this movie is entertaining and gave me a good feeling that I am not gonna curmudgeonly destroy for myself. There is a lot of Star Wars magic and lore to be had from this movie, and I was genuinely positively surprised at many of the turns the movie took.

Vigo:

--- Quote from: Malenko on December 26, 2017, 10:30:36 pm ---so I'm the only one who was irritated the First order had the last of the resistance pinned, literally down to a few escape pods and they never called in more ships? This is compounded by the fact the last part of the "chase" supposedly took place over like 18 hours so there was ample time for more ships to show up.

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I agree, although from my above post it obviously didn't ruin the movie for me. The ships were going in a straight line, so a ship in the fleet could have also have warped about an hour ahead of the fleet and let the rebels fly straight into them. I also was surprised the first order fleet was so slow, given that a fast ship like the millenium falcon needed an asteroid field to escape the empires star destroyer's when warp wasn't an option. If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

knave:

--- Quote from: Vigo on December 27, 2017, 03:01:36 pm ---If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

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...That and flying space Leia...took me right out of the movie.

harveybirdman:
Perfect point about ESB and the pursuit of the millennium falcon. There is zero excuse for a plot point as bad as this to be in a modern star wars movie. I understand your point about internet fan boys Vigo, but i just can't get excited of Disney's trilogy. I have hope for the Solo and Kenobi films I think stand alone films within the restrictions of the established universe work better for producing a film that I can enjoy. Even with it's problems Rogue one has been the only Disney offering I've enjoyed.

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