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Loafmeister:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on October 24, 2017, 07:15:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Loafmeister on October 24, 2017, 03:57:07 pm ---I must say you both are talking out of your butts, or at the very least pretty close to it :). 

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Nope, sorry, it is you who is doing the butt talking.  The first thing I did was use the all in one installer...... Not a single table I wanted to play worked with it.  I then proceeded to go down a never ending rabbit hole of installing betas and specific exes to get some tables to work.  With every table I end up having to install or re-install more junk.  If your experience was better than I'm glad for you, but I assure you it is the exception and not the norm.  I'll also remind you that not all tables have been ported to vpx, and some have been ported rather poorly.

Ok the quality of the table is dépendant on the author not the simulator.  Let me guess you are going to blame Nintendo and the Switch if a third party game sucks?

Don’t get me wrong, there is no guarantee you can find the table you like for sure.  Out of curiosity, when did you last try the allinone installer?

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pbj:

--- Quote from: Ian on October 24, 2017, 10:14:54 pm --- I don't know, I think I am going to go for it.

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Meh, you've been warned, I've owned dozens of machines, my conscience is clear.

 :cheers:
Ian:

--- Quote from: pbj on October 25, 2017, 10:43:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Ian on October 24, 2017, 10:14:54 pm --- I don't know, I think I am going to go for it.

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Meh, you've been warned, I've owned dozens of machines, my conscience is clear.

 :cheers:

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 :laugh2: Okay bud! If I hate it after a week or two I will be honest and tell you. Thanks again for the feedback!
Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Loafmeister on October 25, 2017, 02:48:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on October 24, 2017, 07:15:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Loafmeister on October 24, 2017, 03:57:07 pm ---I must say you both are talking out of your butts, or at the very least pretty close to it :). 

--- End quote ---

Nope, sorry, it is you who is doing the butt talking.  The first thing I did was use the all in one installer...... Not a single table I wanted to play worked with it.  I then proceeded to go down a never ending rabbit hole of installing betas and specific exes to get some tables to work.  With every table I end up having to install or re-install more junk.  If your experience was better than I'm glad for you, but I assure you it is the exception and not the norm.  I'll also remind you that not all tables have been ported to vpx, and some have been ported rather poorly.

Ok the quality of the table is dépendant on the author not the simulator.  Let me guess you are going to blame Nintendo and the Switch if a third party game sucks?

Don’t get me wrong, there is no guarantee you can find the table you like for sure.  Out of curiosity, when did you last try the allinone installer?

--- End quote ---

Please learn how to do quotes.  ;)


With that out of the way.  No I wouldn't blame Nintendo, but I wouldn't buy one if all the games were shoddy.  Regardless the problem is both visual pinball, it's various forks, and the fact that the vp community, since it's founding, has been quite anti-standardization.  When you don't have standards and a strict set of rules, you get the mess they have now.  The only version any table should be created on is vpx and vpx should be backwards compatible with all of the older tables.   

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Malenko:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on October 25, 2017, 07:35:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: Loafmeister on October 25, 2017, 02:48:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on October 24, 2017, 07:15:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Loafmeister on October 24, 2017, 03:57:07 pm ---I must say you both are talking out of your butts, or at the very least pretty close to it :). 

--- End quote ---

Nope, sorry, it is you who is doing the butt talking.  The first thing I did was use the all in one installer...... Not a single table I wanted to play worked with it.  I then proceeded to go down a never ending rabbit hole of installing betas and specific exes to get some tables to work.  With every table I end up having to install or re-install more junk.  If your experience was better than I'm glad for you, but I assure you it is the exception and not the norm.  I'll also remind you that not all tables have been ported to vpx, and some have been ported rather poorly.

Ok the quality of the table is dépendant on the author not the simulator.  Let me guess you are going to blame Nintendo and the Switch if a third party game sucks?

Don’t get me wrong, there is no guarantee you can find the table you like for sure.  Out of curiosity, when did you last try the allinone installer?

--- End quote ---

Please learn how to do quotes.  ;)


With that out of the way.  No I wouldn't blame Nintendo, but I wouldn't buy one if all the games were shoddy.  Regardless the problem is both visual pinball, it's various forks, and the fact that the vp community, since it's founding, has been quite anti-standardization.  When you don't have standards and a strict set of rules, you get the mess they have now.  The only version any table should be created on is vpx and vpx should be backwards compatible with all of the older tables.

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bad quote-fu
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