| Main > Everything Else |
| So thus far Star Trek Discovery sucks. |
| << < (19/24) > >> |
| Howard_Casto:
You don't blow away 50 years worth of the tightest canon in sci-fi history because "it's hard." That is an unforgivable sin, full stop. Also if enterprise is so bad why did they go out of their way to make yet another prequel show that nobody wanted? You can like it, I won't deny you that, but it is objectively bad and more importantly objectively bad Star Trek. Canon, on Star Trek, is paramount. There are over 280 hours of Star Trek out there with very few bad episodes/films. Do you know what almost all of that bad content has in common? Yup, they break canon. Breaking canon is a warning sign that writers and show runners only have a superficial understanding of Star Trek and thus the episodes turn out sub-par because they don't understand the characters, tropes, and settings they are writing about. You say you wish to give them "space to tell new relevant stories". How's that worked out so far? They've done the "completing this mission is morally objective as it hurts a sentient creature" episode, the obligatory time loop episode and the "crew member is taken over by a seemingly good race of non-corporeal beings" episode. Not a lot of new there, which would be fine, if they didn't ruin canon. My point is there was zero reason to do it and this show needs to die so we can finally have a 25th century sequel to real Star Trek. |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 12, 2017, 12:32:31 pm ---Canon, on Star Trek, is paramount. --- End quote --- Is it really though? I mean, again I can only really use TNG as an example since it's the only show I've bothered to watch end-to-end. But owing to its lack of over-arching narrative, writers seemed to have no trouble introducing ideas and then eschewing them later. The egregiously silly "warp speed limit" comes to mind... --- Quote ---There are over 280 hours of Star Trek out there with very few bad episodes/films. --- End quote --- TNG might have something to say about that... |
| Locke141:
--- Quote from: shponglefan on November 12, 2017, 01:46:02 pm --- --- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 12, 2017, 12:32:31 pm ---Canon, on Star Trek, is paramount. --- End quote --- Is it really though? I mean, again I can only really use TNG as an example since it's the only show I've bothered to watch end-to-end. But owing to its lack of over-arching narrative, writers seemed to have no trouble introducing ideas and then eschewing them later. The egregiously silly "warp speed limit" comes to mind... --- Quote ---There are over 280 hours of Star Trek out there with very few bad episodes/films. --- End quote --- TNG might have something to say about that... --- End quote --- This is a good point. There are a lot of bad TNG episodes, most of voyager was crap, and even DS9 (the best star trek) had lots of terrible episodes. In fact DS9, which I love and just re-watched last year, took two or three years to find it's groove. The final 3 seasons, and it huge story arks made that show. Give Discovery a chance and don't sweet the in-continuities with canon, some one will fix them 20 year later or we will just over look them for ever. |
| BadMouth:
CBS all access commercial free is available on Amazon Channels now with a 3 day free trial. The entire first season of Star Trek Discovery hasn't been released yet though. I watched up through episode 11. It's odd to watch a show released only on a streaming service and have it written for commercial breaks. I'm hoping this means they will air it on regular broadcast tv after the season is over. |
| Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: shponglefan on November 12, 2017, 01:46:02 pm --- ... But owing to its lack of over-arching narrative, writers seemed to have no trouble introducing ideas and then eschewing them later... --- End quote --- Indeed. This is one of the things that irritates me the most about Star Trek, and to be fair many other Sci Fi shows (although Star Trek is one of the worst offenders). One example from TNG is when Captain Picard and a few other crew members are involved in (yet another) “transporter accident” and end up becoming child versions of themselves, but with their adult personalities and memories retained. Just imagine what a game changer it would be if we had the technology to relive our childhoods, but with the benefit of our adult experiences and memories. It would effectively mean that people could choose to be immortal. But none of the profound issues raised by this technology were ever really addressed in the episode. It was just used as a cheap disposable plot device. What's even more bizarre is that they found a way to reverse the process, and all the affected crew decided they wanted to become adults again, and thus effectively lose decades of life! Oh, and this technological breakthrough was never ever mentioned again!! It constantly baffled me why some people think that Star Trek is an example of good Science Fiction. |
| Navigation |
| Message Index |
| Next page |
| Previous page |