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wp34:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on March 22, 2017, 06:40:09 pm ---I want to see a movie where Vader proves himself to the Emperor while snuffing out remaining Jedi. --- End quote --- This. |
dkersten:
--- Quote from: Ian on March 22, 2017, 04:06:37 pm ---I think the problem with all of the new Star Wars movies is this.... Star Wars although tells us the story of a very large Galaxy... it is shown in an incredibly small way. And what I mean by that is the original Trilogy really only truly centered on a small group of people where half of them turned out to be related. If you stray to far from those movies today it doesn't seem like Star Wars (kind of like the prequels), but if you stay too close it's a duplicate (the Force Awakens). --- End quote --- But stories are about people. The galaxy (far far away) is just the setting. Nobody wants to see a movie (or read a fiction book) about a setting. Besides, the first movie incorporates 3 planets and a space station the size of a small moon. That's pretty broad. When you think Star Wars, you think about Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, and Darth Vader. But because the setting was so unique back then, it stuck in our minds. That allowed the story to extend beyond those characters and still be "Star Wars", just like Star Trek was able to create so many spinoffs from the original. But for some, without the original elements it just isn't the same. Remove the Enterprise and Kirk and Spock from Star Trek and you lose a big chunk of the fan base. Remove any of the popular characters from the first 3 SW films and you will likewise lose a lot of the audience. That being said, my favorite part of Rogue One was all the props that made it distinctly "Star Wars". I didn't need the familiar characters. I also enjoyed the extended universe and even the games that had nothing to do with the characters in the movies. My biggest disappointment in Rogue One was probably the score. I get why they didn't use the usual music, but seeing a movie for the first time and hearing that opening score takes me back to the late 70's and early 80's, and it is what sets the scene for a Star Wars film in my mind. |
DrakeTungsten:
--- Quote --- Neither Lucasfilm nor Disney has ever been known for pushing the boundaries of morality in film --- End quote --- "Get the fiancee out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed" The trolls plotting to disappear their foster son's romantic rival in Frozen was a welcome anamoly in the spirit of which you speak. Perhaps a little too dark, actually. |
DrakeTungsten:
--- Quote ---But hell even I know that they made 2 maybe 3 great movies out of 8. That's like 37% --- End quote --- Given that 90% of everything is garbage, producing 37% non-garbage is beating the odds. |
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