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Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« on: June 14, 2016, 08:21:17 pm »
Hey everyone,
Been fighting with this for a bit now and I hope someone can help me. I have a Golden Tee 2005 I purchased as is not long ago. The unit will boot up and displays properly, sound even works, trackball too.

My issue is that no inputs work. I can only get to setup by using the board switch. After I get there I cannot select anything because "Start" wont work. The only other input I can test for sure is coin 1 and it is also unresponsive.

I have tested the input all the way to the i/o? chip (there are 4 of them?) and I do get 220ohm when a button in pressed.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 11:54:30 pm »
on the green or red board there is 4 input I/o chips they then interface a Spartan chip.
if some one applied 12 volts to any of these input ports the chips will blow.
on the board
right beside the jama input header
there is a 4 bank switch
switch #1 turn it on from off
power cycle game , it should come back up after boot and go right into "service"
if it dose ? then u have a stuck switch on the control panel , coin door etc
if it dose not come up to service? replace the input gates

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 12:30:54 am »
this is the switch I am talking about

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 10:53:28 am »
I have used the switches to get to the service menu but I cannot select input test as start doesn't work.

Is there a way to test those input chips?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 11:56:48 am »
hi
u either missed my point or your answer confuses me
the switch I posted the picture of.
it is called a definte test switch
if u did as I asked and the board rebooted to service ?
then chances are the input I/o is working
if on the other hand it did not go to test as demanded by sw#1 of the 4 switch bank ?
then the input bank is not working.
so with that in hand they are a normal ttl  style chip in a small foot print tsop style package.
see attached pdf

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 01:15:08 pm »
Thanks for the help,
If I put sw 1 in the "on" position  it boots to service menu.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 01:48:50 pm »
now were getting somewhere
here is what u need to do
chk the jamma ground from jamma  head its self
to all of the switches on the control panel.
also make sure u do not have a stuck micro switch
to do that test (micro switch test ) unplug the ground or return wire from the switches
all of the switches then 1 at a time in test mode touch ground to the other side of the switch to see if it activates
the on screen input
so -test or service-scroll down to input test (switches). and 1 at a time ground the other side of the switch
it should show on screen that it is active
if it passes this test ? then the input I/o is fine
and if u still do not have control after that test ? get back to me

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 03:50:58 pm »
Is there a way to activate the input test screen without having a start button?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 03:53:44 pm »
do let this sound demeaning
can u trace wires ?
if so then the s/w-tests/w's are clearly listed on the jamma input header
if your listing is missing? say so I will post it for u

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 04:30:19 pm »
I can test the wires. I have the book. Gimme a couple hours and I'll get back to you.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 04:40:16 pm »
k

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2016, 10:04:22 pm »
Hey Ed,
I tested like you said I should no changes, no inputs registers.
I even tried letting the game boot into the game, then disconnecting the jamma connector and jumping the "coin 1" to gnd to see if it would register the coin... no go. Which of the 4 chips is most likely the issue? Is it possible to change them out with something socketted?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2016, 10:27:56 pm »
they are surface mount
u have to replace them with surface mount
my fear is it may not be the I/o lines
but rather u2 >exlink spartan xc520xl<
if u have a logic probe ? and or a scope ?
I could tell u better.
but from here with basic equipment we could run a few fast tests
the 74ls541 is a OCTAL BUFFER/LINE DRIVER. WITH 3-STATE OUTPUTS
inputs as follows
2-9
outputs as follows
18-11

1 and 19 are your tristate enable/disable nand gate

it is a buffer because the input side is 3.3 volts with respect to ground
the output side is normal 5v ttl
u could in service screen/test-switches
try grounding the inputs 1 at a time and see if they show up on the screen as such.
and by inputs I mean pins 2-9 be VERY CAREFUL
it would be a VERY BAD MOVE to try to tie them high
if that fails? u would need to go deeper or get the board repaired if u can go deeper ?
I will certainly try to help u

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2016, 10:33:17 pm »
So do the outputs correspond directly to outputs? ie input 1 - output 1? Can I force the outputs high to test whether or not its the spartan chip or something else? also, using the switch to get into the service menu, i cant get to the input test screen, as I have no start button. Is there another way?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2016, 11:05:36 pm »
if sw51 is not working ?
then u are sunk until u can trace back to which of the 4 chips do what
I have a road map here some where
that I did a few years ago when kevin had his problem with the I/o
stay away from the Spartan what ever u do. if u short it even a little
you will be kissing the board bye bye as they no longer have stock and exlink no longer makes that series of chip
nor do they program them any more.
I will see if I can dig it up
it may be in a saved txt format now but it will help u some

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2016, 11:09:42 pm »
Sorry, SW51 switch 1 does get me into the service screen but not the input test screen.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2016, 11:13:02 pm »
One of the sockets on U26 is giving me issues. Sometimes one of the connection doesnt make up. Any chance that is related?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2016, 11:21:01 pm »
well kinda yes
u26 is the interface otp for the Spartan
(tells the Spartan what to do) and expect (sets the registers up to there internal preprogramed state)
so yes if u can replace that socket then do so. will not hurt
just go steady and easy
then get back to me I have a board here with the I/o's off of it right now
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2016, 11:49:41 pm »
I will see if I can find a new socket locally if not I'll be waiting for internet.
Thanks
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2016, 12:12:04 am »
8 pin dip is cheap as it gets
very common socket

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2016, 11:59:04 pm »
Hey Ed,
I resocketted that socket with a new one, no change. I had a good look at the input chips. Any repair there is gonna be over my head.

I have a green board (my other post). I have booted it up with an ATX breakout, but it won't boot to the game (resets just before the first actual game screen) Could this be because the ATX doesn't have enough juice? Also, SW51 cannot get me to service menu)

Two junk boards, which should I attack?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2016, 11:16:53 am »
which version of golden tee of golden tee is the hard drive ? (lets start there)
and exactly what #'s are on top of u53 ?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2016, 05:02:15 pm »
OK so...
I only have one hard drive...
The green boards U15 is v1.06
The red boards U15 is v2.04

Red board will boot to game with no inputs.
Green board gets right before the game then resets.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2016, 09:47:30 pm »
u15 is the eprom
the least u should have is egale 2.09
u can move the u15 from the red board to the green board (just watch the notch)
what i was asking u is the # on u53
it is the game id i need

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2016, 09:55:36 pm »
Sorry I read at work...
Green board - G4C-CAN-U
Red board - G45-CAN-U

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2016, 10:14:05 pm »
ok 1 is a 04 the other a 05
which ever board the harddrive will work in but (no switchs)
swap u15 and u53 toghter
so as i understand it the redboard boots to game but no switchs
so that 3 pieces u will swap into the green board >u15/u53/harddrive< please make sure of the notchs (pin1) to pin1
co not reverse these chips
ie pin1 to pin 22
pin 1 to pin 20
or u will get the little grey smoke fery
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2016, 10:43:33 pm »
OK putting the U15 and U53 and HD from the red board I get a hardware not compatible with software error.

The red board boots to game but has no button input (on board switches work)

The green board resets itself at initializing game screen but has button input but I can't get into service screen with the on board switch

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2016, 12:00:12 am »
i was worried about that...that error is the build in u61
not adviceable for u to try to do yourself

lets do it this way
>>>>put u53 back in (proper) to its (proper board)<<<<<<
this will nock out that error.
and leave the u15 swap alone

now the harddrive for 04 will not work for 05 ^^^^ error
but all is not lost
u can find 05 s/w easy enough

now get a copy of chdman 1.46 >1.46< is best
and a copy of 05 s/w. i will not post the site but it is a very common d/l site
and load it to a blank 8meg or larger harddrive

follow the readme with 1.46
its easy as pie

i do however have a question for u
on your green board
the jamma powers it right ? to this i mean the power inputs come to the jamma input right ?
a yes or no tells me the trick
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2016, 07:09:02 am »
Well the green board I have is being powered poorly by a hacked up ATX supply. I am feeding power through the Molex connectors. I will order a proper supply when I can confirm it will function.

When you say 04 do you mean GT fore 2004? Or are there different versions of 2005 software?

I attached an image of a list of software. Which one is appropriate. I will probably reuse the hard drive that I currently have just because I really don't have any small EIDE drives kicking around.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2016, 10:46:05 am »
I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2016, 12:06:27 pm »
I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

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So I should be downloading the complete to work with the G4C chip?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2016, 12:14:44 pm »
erps thks for chatching that :)

if the green board was a 04 then u d/l the 04 s/w
the hard drive >>must match u53 and u61<<
or it will give u errors
1=incompatiable s/w >u61<
2=wrong game secirty chip >u53<
the eeprom dump from the red board WILL NOT WORK in the green board and visa versa
in my thread in a few of the last pages is the 06 >green board< working dump
u would need to remove u61 and reflash it with the dump i uploaded
then u can use the gtcomplete harddrive and u53 in the green board
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2016, 12:21:07 pm »
How do I tell what game the board is?. I've seen the red board boot with the hard drive to GT4  2005, but I have not seen the green board boot to a game as I only have a 2005 HD.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2016, 12:34:14 pm »
also in my thread are pictures of "post-screen",this is the last screnn u will see before the game boots
it gives u the game # 04/05/complete/ game build id #u61/board rev/voltage level "hi/low/ok"
it will last for 2-3 seconds. as a normal rule of course UNLESS u have a problem

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2016, 01:48:10 pm »
I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

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So I should be downloading the complete to work with the G4C chip?

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Yes the G4C is a complete chip.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2016, 07:14:31 pm »
So I'm thinking this is my next step, tell me if I'm wrong. The red board will boot with the hard drive and the U53 for 2005. Unfortunately, no input.

The green board won't boot into the game for anything. I get the red unauthorized screen when I try various combinations of U53s and hard drives. The board came with a complete U53 chip.

My plan is to put Golden Tee 2006 Complete onto the hard drive and see if the green board will boot into the game.

Does that make sense? Is there anything I should do before that?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2016, 08:12:27 pm »
the complete u53 chip came with the red board right ?
if so then sorry no.
u will need to remove u61 from the green board and load it with my last file i posted in the golden tee thread in misalounis fourms here
the last file is a (gtcomplete) build for u61 and works perfect >green board< only
just copy the file u see posted and save it in notepad as a .txt
then rename the .txt to a .bin file
then any loader/reader/writer that supports 93lc46 chip can write it to the chip
place the chip back in and u are good to go using u53 g4-can-u and the complete harddrive u have
DO NOT CHANGE THE SIZE OF YOUR HARD DRIVE without up-grading the egale rom to 2.09

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2016, 08:39:39 pm »
Ed.
The complete came with the green board.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2016, 09:09:31 pm »
incompatiable s/w is a u61 issuie
the red board eeprom i have not nor will i post it
90% of golden tees are green board
i have a few 4 red boards that were golden tees
there is a hudge difference in the u61 because of the board rev
right beside or below your serial # is a print on the board and tells u the board rev
the u53 g4-can-u should work in either board (u stands for unverisal)
your hard drive will how ever have to locked to the id in the u61 chip
if u61 was 2005 (build) then u are stuck using 2005 firmware (u53) and 2005 s/w for the harddrive
it is that simple
this is why i suggested sending it in for repair or just swap out boards for a running game

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2016, 09:17:10 pm »
Will IT repair the board?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2016, 09:36:05 pm »
300.00 usd and up
yes indeed they will

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2016, 10:18:24 pm »
i will add
u must call them and get a rma >most important<
btw u pay shipping both ways

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2016, 10:51:38 pm »
So realistically i should focus on making the green board work... or buy a new red board online.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2016, 10:59:51 pm »
how much skill set do u have with electronics ? and how much repair equipment do u have ?
as another @ here found out the hardway them surface mount chips are 50/50 at best for replacing
u will need to find out which switch/s are dead and why to say the least
or u could just as i have sujsted swap out a "dead" but not "dead" green board/hard drive for a running complete
and carry on.
but if u want to learn ? and have the patinace nessary u can bend my ear.
lord knows i worte the book on them

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2016, 12:00:28 am »
Hahahaha well I'll have to get some equipment  to take a look at the surface mount chips. they scare me. switches ill check after that should be a big deal
Now I'm trying to extract the ROM off the hard drive I have. CHDMAN 146 keeps saying out of memory after 11%... I have lots of hard drive space... what gives?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2016, 12:10:05 am »
with chdman
u need to go to a cmd prompt
i set it up like this
c:\chdman
that puts me in the directory (chdman)
from there i use the nessary (dos) switchs
ie / \ -f -i -s etc its all in the help file (very good written .txt) i will add

now on to the board
i was not implying the dip switchs
i ment the surface mout input/output switchs

chdman ussage as follows


KILogo KI2Logo


Imaging and Restoring Hard Drives using MAME's CHDMAN Utility

What You Will Need:

Capability to navigate your hard drive from within DOS or a Windows command prompt.
ST9150AG Killer Instinct hard drive or MAME CHD image file (info only).
ST9420AG Killer Instinct 2 hard drive or MAME CHD image file (info only).
Appropriate hardware adapters: IDE to 44-Pin Laptop Adapter, CompactFlash card reader, USB adapters work just fine.
CHDMAN v140 - MAME's CHDMAN Utility for Windows Operating Systems (CHD v4 Support)
CHDMAN v146 - MAME's CHDMAN Utility for Windows Operating Systems (CHD v5 Support)
Typically this page is updated only on "decade" MAME releases - ie: v140, v150, etc.
Otherwise, constantly keeping up with MAME interim releases becomes a part-time occupation. :)

Due to a re-write of CHDMAN starting with MAME v145u1, the command syntax has changed.
The new LZMA compression algorithms have brought SIGNIFICANT reductions in hard drive image sizes.

This page has been updated to reflect those changes.

Always attempt to create/restore images using the same version of CHDMAN the images were created with.
CHDMAN is always under development, so be aware some older images and versions of CHDMAN may be incompatible/outdated.
As long as your CHD files match the MAME and CHDMAN release version, you will be fine.


Who Can Benefit From This Information?

You have an arcade game with a hard drive and would like to back up the data to protect your investment.
You have a personal hard drive (operating system or otherwise) that you would like to back up using free software.
CHDMAN is a free alternative to Ghost and other commercial image-based data backup programs.
You want to restore your saved hard drive image to another hard drive or compatible device (CompactFlash card, etc.)
You want to submit an arcade hard drive image to MAME developers without having to ship your hardware away.


WARNINGS and DISCLAIMERS

Mistakes made while using the following procedures
can result in total data loss, erased/un-bootable Operating System
drives, deleted partitions, etc.

A single typographical error can lead to a catastrophic loss of data.

If you are inexperienced or uncomfortable with this disclaimer,
please purchase a Killer Instinct hard drive replacement kit or
contact me or another technically-savvy individual about backing up
and/or restoring your data for you.

Windows, by its very design, will attempt to be user friendly,
but do not EVER allow it to format or partition/modify your
original/source hard drive during this process or it will be
absolutely ruined.

Init and Convert Disk Wizard

Disk Not Formatted

Initialize Disk

Do You Want To Format?


Before You Begin: Get Organized!

1.) I highly recommend reading these instructions from start to finish before beginning. Do not "jump in."
2.) If you are creating/restoring hard drive image files, use short paths such as "c:\ki" or "e:\hdimages".
3.) If creating a hard drive image, note/record the size (in Megabytes/Gigabytes) of the original hard drive.
4.) Ensure your destination drive has the available space required to create the hard drive image file.
5.) Copy the CHDMAN executable file into your chosen destination folder (for future version control).



Using CHDMAN to Create A Hard Drive Image (Physical Disk to a File)


1.) Disconnect / Remove any hard drives or flash memory cards that may cause confusion.
2.) Connect the source hard drive to your PC. The easiest way is via USB to IDE (or SATA) adapters.
3.) Click "Start" > Run, and enter "diskmgmt.msc". This opens the Windows Disk Management Service interface.
4.) Using the size of your source hard drive, find it within the Disk Manager.
5.) Record the Disk Number that Windows has assigned the drive.
Your "C" drive will usually be Disk 1, and in this example my KI 2 drive was assigned Disk 3.


Windows Disk Management Interface
Make note of the Disk number Windows has assigned your source hard drive. Leave Disk Management open.
(If Killer Instinct 2 is a 420.8MB drive why does Windows show it as a 402MB drive? Either ignore it, or learn all about it.)

NOTE: Many hard drives (including Killer Instinct) will not be assigned a drive letter in Windows.
They will be shown as unknown, unallocated, not initialized, or RAW. This is NORMAL and only means
that Windows does not recogize the drive's filesystem.


Open a DOS/Windows command window: Click "Start" > Run, and enter "cmd".

In Vista/Windows 7:
"Start" > "All Programs" > "Accessories" > Right-Click "Command Prompt" and select 'Run as Administrator'.

Change to the directory with your CHDMAN executable file. This tutorial will use "C:\KI".

C:\KI Directory
This image shows our "KI" directory listing with the CHDMAN executable present.
Depending on the version of CHDMAN, the CHDMAN file size may differ...(v140 shown)


CHDMAN Command Listing CHDMAN Command Listing
Type only the name of the executable to see all of the commands CHDMAN is capable of.


v140: To create the KI2 hard drive image, type:
chdman -createhd \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3 kinst2.chd
CHDMAN KI2 Drive Image Complete
This process took the contents of PHYSICALDRIVE3 and wrote it to a file named kinst2.chd.


The PHYSICALDRIVE attribute requires the disk number you recorded earlier from Windows Disk Management.
If your source disk number was 5, you would have substituted "\\.\PHYSICALDRIVE5" in the example above.

v146+: To create the KI2 hard drive image, type:
chdman createhd -o kinst2.chd -i \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3
CHDMAN KI2 Drive Image Complete
NOTE: If you get the error about CHS values, you MUST provide them. You can usually find
this information printed on the top of the drive, otherwise, look it up on the drive manufacturer's website.
KI2 Drive - CHS Info

Congratulations!
You have successfully backed up a physical hard drive to an image file.

It would be a good idea to burn this file to a CD or DVD
so you always have a backup copy available.


Using CHDMAN to Write/Restore an Image to a Physical Hard Drive (File to Physical Disk)


As you might expect, restoring an image file (*.CHD) to a physical drive is essentially
the opposite of creating an hard drive image.

1.) Your destination drive must be at least the same size as the original source drive you imaged.
2.) You should always attempt to image the identical make/model hard drive as the source drive
before attempting to use CompactFlash or alternate sized hard drives.
3.) If the manufacturer has implemented copy protection algorithms in their boot ROMs, imaged drives
will almost always fail. They may reset randomly, crash while running, or not even boot up.
4.) If Step #2 works for you, it is likely that alternate media will work as well.
5.) Some arcade machines will require modified boot ROMs to function 100%. KI 2 is a perfect example.


This example uses a CompactFlash memory card as the destination drive.

1.) Disconnect / Remove any hard drives or flash memory cards that may cause confusion.
2.) Connect the destination hard drive to your PC. The easiest way is via USB to IDE (or SATA) adapters.
3.) Click "Start" > Run, and enter "diskmgmt.msc". This opens the Windows Disk Management Service interface.
4.) Using the size of your destination hard drive, find it within the Disk Manager.
5.) Record the Disk Number that Windows has assigned the drive.
In this example my 512MB CompactFlash card was assigned Disk 0.


Windows Disk Management Interface
Make note of the Disk number Windows has assigned your CompactFlash card. Leave Disk Management open.
(If the CompactFlash card is 512MB, why does Windows show it as a 481MB drive? Either ignore it, or learn all about it.)


Open a DOS/Windows command window: Click "Start" > Run, and enter "cmd".

In Vista/Windows 7:
"Start" > "All Programs" > "Accessories" > Right-Click "Command Prompt" and select 'Run as Administrator'.

Change to the directory with your CHDMAN executable file. This tutorial will use "c:\ki".

CHDMAN Info Output on KI2 Image File
Here is a directory listing of our KI folder with kinst2.chd image file and the CHDMAN executables.
The "-info" switch will report the CHD image file's specifications.

v140 - To restore the KI2 image file to your destination physical disk, type:
chdman -extract kinst2.chd \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0
KI2 Image Successfully Restored
v146+ - To restore the KI2 image file to your destination physical disk, type:
chdman extracthd -i kinst2.chd -o \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0 -f
KI2 Image Successfully Restored
This process extracted the kinst2.chd image to the destination device (PHYSICALDRIVE0).
(The "-f" switch tells CHDMAN to forcefully overwrite any existing data/partitions.)

The PHYSICALDRIVE attribute requires the disk number you recorded earlier from Windows Disk Management.
If your destination disk number was 3, you would have substituted "\\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3" in the example above.


If imaging is successful, Windows may ask if you want to
format your drive. Do NOT allow this operation on your newly imaged drive!


Error Writing Hunk
CHDMAN v145 and lower: If you receive a "error writing hunk" message, this is due to
data and/or partitions existing on the hard drive. At this point, however, you have obliterated them with CHDMAN.

From Windows Disk Management (Action -> Rescan Disks), or disconnect and re-connect your drive or CF adapter.
Re-try the same extract operation and it should complete successfully. If you clean the drive using DISKPART
prior to imaging, you will not see this message.

In CHDMAN v145u1 and newer, you will be required to add '-f' to FORCE the overwrite of the existing data/partitions.

ALWAYS RE-VERIFY THE PHYSICALDRIVE NUMBER WHEN RE-ATTACHING DRIVES!

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2016, 12:13:46 am »
Yes I followed that tutorial using 146 from his thread and have it starting to make the chd but the fails. Any specific reason I should use 146?

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2016, 12:36:46 am »
ya its fource cmds
makes it work alot better
never had a problem.
done about 100 of the green boards now with it
but then i use a few other programs to prep the drive
ie parition magic (mini) not that full 1
and drive wipe is the other
so the drive is preped
plus in xp/7/8
go to run
type drivemgmt.msc
and find the drive u want to write to
if u are saving it to usb flash stick make sure the stick is fat32
then u can move it around
but if u are just trying to make a new hardrive from a saved file ?
then place that saved file and or a copy of it (into chdman)
this way when u cmd over to chdman
the file will already be there
btw the files that i use ARE NOT ISO's
they are labled .chd

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2016, 08:30:23 am »
I'm trying to back up my existing drive so I can attempt to put the 2006 software on it. It's the only small IDE drive I can find locally.

I am using the proper command but I keep "out of memory" and cancel
 
Tried using an older version and it made a 24mb file which is much too small.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2016, 11:28:25 am »
fair enough
but i do have a few concerns i will go over later with u
right now i do have a question for u
what exactley is the u53 read in the red board (orignal) before swapping  ?
the label on the top of the chip. i know we went over this but i want to clearify a few points

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2016, 11:45:48 am »
G45-CAN-U

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2016, 11:54:03 am »
if u are doing a harddrive for that board
then u want gt05
i thought i had gone over this in detail (u61)
that will at very least get u running
now if u have an eprom writer ? u can d/l egale 2.09 from our site
i did post it
and just burn an eprom 27c8000 is what i use
and then u no longer need to worry about harddrive size
also to copy your harddrive
easy way is just to do an .img file of it
mini parition has it built right in
just copy it to any harddrive that has 10meg of room on it
>file is only 8 meg<

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2016, 12:05:43 pm »
I want to image the hard drive for the green (G4C-CAN-U) board as all the board functions seem to work.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2016, 12:38:07 pm »
as i stated just get mini parition wizard
and do the .img that way to any 10meg spare area u have on your system drive
and anyways as i pointed out
gt software is out there
if i had a upload site i would give u the copys
there .chd and ready to rock
so basicly u are wasting your time doing that when u want to get it going
and just remeberthat the red board will not run as a complete

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2016, 11:09:54 pm »
So complete is like 10GB and 2005 comes on a 6.4gb HD. Damnit. time to find some other way to do this.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2016, 11:36:34 pm »
if u take my advice and download partition magic wizard (mini)
u could slave your hard drive and look at it in mini
then u will find out 6.8g is the size of the .img
the rest is simply not used
it is just spare room hanging around
10gig was a common drive back in the day
now days it 500-1tb normal size
simply to large for these games
we all tend to top out at the most common from a few years ago (40g)

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2016, 03:11:10 pm »
I recently used a 8gb flash card that only had 7.4 gb of actual space. Chdman errored out at about 80% due to disk space, but it seems to work fine as Ed says there is lots of empty space at the end partition.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2016, 03:39:07 pm »
thk-u kevin
as i was trying to tell the @ there is olny 3 count my # -> 3
active and needed paritions
the rest is simply not used

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2016, 05:35:29 pm »
Some updates from my weekend. I came across a few 32gig ide drives. The game would not load them. I will try to clone to the original drive as soon as I get a computer that has IDE ports.

I will try a 2.09 bios tomorrow or Thurs. What is the size restriction for that bios?.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2016, 07:24:26 pm »
i use 27c8000

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2016, 12:15:32 pm »
Just an update. Got the green board working properly with my hacked up power supply and complete (2006) software that I cloned back onto the small hard drive (6.4gb) new bios chip will be in shortly.

Thanks for all the help. I still plan on getting the red board fixed but at this point I'll be paying someone to do so.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2016, 12:44:03 pm »
congrads

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