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| NiN^_^NiN:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 14, 2016, 01:08:12 am ---Well I hate to poop on the party, but it turns out I was probably right yet again. According to the sales figures released by steam, sales of the Vive and vr software in general have dropped off to nearly nothing. The rift is estimated to be at a standstill as well, but it's hard to tell as they haven't released their figures. What industry insiders are saying is that this means all the early adopters have already bought all they are going to buy and more casual gamers simply aren't buying it. The reason these stalled figures are worrying is due to the fact that this is based on August/September figures, which are the first months where a lot of this gear is officially available to the public. There should have been at least some kind of surge in sales, but there wasn't any. So on the pc end at least, VR is dead. Hopefully for you guys the console based VR solutions might restart the industry, or else you aren't going to see many new games anytime soon. --- End quote --- Actually you're wrong Howard (I remember you said back in 2013 when i posted about getting my KS oculus rift that it would be a fad I don't see why you seem to be so against it) The Sales figures you are talking about aren't sales figures but the Steam Survey which people have to opt into and doesn't count the Rift or Vive if it isn't plugged in or for rift users who don't use steam (I'm one of them I like home but still use steam for 2D content just not for VR) There are multiple reports about how the survey doesn't actually count all the hardware correctly and most probably only counts games that work for the Vive only. Check the news and you will see other news articles about how the survey doesn't actually state what the current state is. I admit that the Vive catalogue does feel kinda like tech demo's but they jumped into the game late and released the hardware early and the games don't really compare to the ones oculus has on their Home platform. So sorry howard but VR isn't dead and shortly the Oculus will have a huge range of motion controllers with their motion controllers about to be released. We have major game companies already slated a bunch of VR games to come and there's a huge push in Japan for it as well a bunch of franchises that western audiences mostly don't know and a bunch that do as well. If you think VR is dead you are waaaaaay off :applaud: |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 14, 2016, 01:08:12 am ---Well I hate to poop on the party, but it turns out I was probably right yet again. According to the sales figures released by steam, sales of the Vive and vr software in general have dropped off to nearly nothing. --- End quote --- They haven't released any sales figures. People are estimating that based on Steam hardware survey results (which likely have a margin of error for reasons mentioned above). Plus people are completely ignoring that electronics are highly seasonal with most sales coming in the November/December months. For example, when the PS3 was first released it sold decently in Nov/Dec 2006, then its sales plummeted in the following months. I'm sure if people made the same assumptions, they'd declare the PS3 a dead console. But then it picked up again the following Nov/Dec (and after some price cuts/new model introductions). There are still a few things that need to happen before people start declaring VR dead: 1) The Holiday season and how that impacts sales 2) Any sort of price cuts and/or HMD changes HTC makes 3) The release of Oculus Touch and the adoption of motion controls as a broader standard 4) The release of PSVR and its impact on the general VR market If in 6-12 months everything that flattened with no signs of revival, then we can start talking about the death of VR. --- Quote ---So on the pc end at least, VR is dead. --- End quote --- VR is dead, long live VR. |
| pbj:
Good rule of thumb, when you're attacking a report without providing a counter report, the first report is probably correct. |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: pbj on September 14, 2016, 09:30:39 am ---Good rule of thumb, when you're attacking a report without providing a counter report, the first report is probably correct. --- End quote --- But there is no "first report" which is the whole point. |
| pbj:
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