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pbj:
I still want to know how they were doing head tracking for $1

fallacy:
The VFX1 the coolest PC HMD at the same time used head tracking with gyroscopes or like how a compass works magnetic north. There was obviously a lot of lag. I almost bought that headset at the time, I read a review that discueged me saying your money would be better spent upgrading your graphics card. I now wish I had just so I can say I was in VR before anyone else.

fallacy:
G2 is exhausting. Ya it is higher rez but that's about it. The index controllers not really working, every time I turn it on they end up in a different location, there are games and and apps that will just open to a grey screen because of them why? Who the ---fudgesicle--- knows. I dont know whats wrong with the FOV, I just put on the original vive and I was fine with that. Either the face pad is putting you too far away from the screen or something. Getting sick of going through that mixed reality software before you can get into steam just another chain to break everything else. Not sure if I should sell it and wait for the index 2 to do this right. Mixed Reality fooled me twice but by god it won't happen a third time!

I am also completely over this 100 degree-ish FOV, If we are not talking 135 plus FOV including mobile HMDs or whatever else they come out with I am not interested.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: fallacy on November 21, 2020, 10:18:09 pm ---G2 is exhausting. Ya it is higher rez but that's about it. The index controllers not really working, every time I turn it on they end up in a different location, there are games and and apps that will just open to a grey screen because of them why? Who the ---fudgesicle--- knows. I dont know whats wrong with the FOV, I just put on the original vive and I was fine with that. Either the face pad is putting you too far away from the screen or something. Getting sick of going through that mixed reality software before you can get into steam just another chain to break everything else. Not sure if I should sell it and wait for the index 2 to do this right. Mixed Reality fooled me twice but by god it won't happen a third time!

I am also completely over this 100 degree-ish FOV, If we are not talking 135 plus FOV including mobile HMDs or whatever else they come out with I am not interested.

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If your Index controllers are off every time you boot, then your environment is changing, or not ideal (maybe shadows moving based on the time of day and not enough else in the room to sync to.) Also, did you set up and sync the chaperone boundaries on both units?

There are a few games which do a grey screen just because of the G2. I haven't seen one yet, but those are the reports. The same thing happened when the Odyssey first came out because it was higher resolution than the other WMR units. It'll likely need to be fixed by the game developers. Normal stuff for something new.

The eye relief was designed to allow glasses wearers clearance for them in the HMD. The FOV is basically the same as the Index, when the Index is set to maximum eye relief. There's a simple hack which basically uses thick, self-adhesive neoprene door seal foam on the HMD in lieu of the included face gasket, to open up the FOV for non-glasses wearers. Try taking off the face gasket and looking at the FOV you get from that to see what to expect from it. There are reports of at least one manufacturer in China who has already developed a replacement. I would imagine more will follow. Personally, my face shape allows my eyes to get pretty close to the lenses, and I can already see the screen edges with a tiny bit of pressure applied to the front the unit. Those with a broader face shape will have different results.

The G2 has already spoiled me to the point that going back to any other unit is a non-starter. My biggest complaint about it is that I only have one, and it has been tethered to my cable management system so I can't use it on my racing rig. First world problems.

RandyT:
So, I just set up my Vive wands to use with the G2 for some testing in Pistol Whip. Calibration went fine, solid tracking, right where they are supposed to be.

Played a few rounds of the Ember song on normal difficulty with the Vive controller, and ended up with a rank of 942 in the global rankings. So I exit the game, turn off the Vive wands and fire up the G2 controller to see if I do any worse with it. Same song, same difficulty settings. Didn't notice any difference during play, but I did feel like I preferred the trigger of the Vive wand. Made it through to the end on the first try with the G2 controller and with a global rank of 516!!

I'm not saying that the G2 controller is superior in any way, but based on the result, it absolutely didn't hinder my game in any way. It won't be like that with every title, but for most of what I am interested in playing, I won't see much difference between the two. I'll add that I have yet to seriously play the VR Call of Duty wannabes, so that may be a bit of a different case. I suspect that I will pick up Population One when I see a sale, so I'll figure that out at some point.

But testing with the Vive wands seemed to work fine on my end.

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